Hello Lorna. Have you tried searching the NSW Birth Death and Marriages indexes on-line under each of those possible surnames? It is a long-winded process, as they only permit a 10-year search at a time; but if you persevere you never know what you might find. (Sorry, I don't have the URL handy -- try a google search and you should get it quickly). Good Luck: ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorna Clauson" <lornaclauson@mac.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:34 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] family search > Hello everyone, > I'm Lorna Clauson, (retired Commerce Teacher) NZ, but half Australian as > my dad was born in Dubbo. (Hope that helps!) I'm trying to find the man > who married my grandmother in NZ in 1878 - I'm descended from her second > marriage. Their marriage certificate gives his place of birth as > Edinburgh, and at age 25 would have been born c1853. No birth certificate > has been found. Not long after their daughter was born he deserted wife > and child and went to Australia, never to be seen or heard of again. No > trace of his name has been found on shipping records so he probably > travelled under an assumed name. However we recently discovered the > following. > > He seems to have used any of the following names: Henry Mordaunt Cramond, > Mordaunt Cramond Gunn, or Mordaunt Cramond Booth Gunn. According to a > marriage certificate from NSW a person of the latter name married Miney > Booth in Newcastle in May 1881. Booth-Gunn's occupation was listed as > "surgeon" on this Marriage Cert. > > I should be most grateful for any information on this person as none of his > family in NZ can find any trace of him. Thanks a lot. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Lorna, The Births Deaths and Marriages search is http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/ Cheers Isabelle -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hawkins [mailto:ray15@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 9:45 PM To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search A suggestion Hello Lorna. Have you tried searching the NSW Birth Death and Marriages indexes on-line under each of those possible surnames? It is a long-winded process, as they only permit a 10-year search at a time; but if you persevere you never know what you might find. (Sorry, I don't have the URL handy -- try a google search and you should get it quickly). Good Luck: ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorna Clauson" <lornaclauson@mac.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:34 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] family search > Hello everyone, > I'm Lorna Clauson, (retired Commerce Teacher) NZ, but half Australian as > my dad was born in Dubbo. (Hope that helps!) I'm trying to find the man > who married my grandmother in NZ in 1878 - I'm descended from her second > marriage. Their marriage certificate gives his place of birth as > Edinburgh, and at age 25 would have been born c1853. No birth certificate > has been found. Not long after their daughter was born he deserted wife > and child and went to Australia, never to be seen or heard of again. No > trace of his name has been found on shipping records so he probably > travelled under an assumed name. However we recently discovered the > following. > > He seems to have used any of the following names: Henry Mordaunt Cramond, > Mordaunt Cramond Gunn, or Mordaunt Cramond Booth Gunn. According to a > marriage certificate from NSW a person of the latter name married Miney > Booth in Newcastle in May 1881. Booth-Gunn's occupation was listed as > "surgeon" on this Marriage Cert. > > I should be most grateful for any information on this person as none of his > family in NZ can find any trace of him. Thanks a lot. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Many thanks. Will follow this up. > From: "Ray Hawkins" <ray15@optusnet.com.au> > Reply-To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:45:14 +1000 > To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search A suggestion > Resent-From: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 05:45:17 -0600 > > Hello Lorna. > Have you tried searching the NSW Birth Death and Marriages indexes on-line > under each of those possible surnames? It is a long-winded process, as they > only permit a 10-year search at a time; but if you persevere you never know > what you might find. > (Sorry, I don't have the URL handy -- try a google search and you should get > it quickly). > Good Luck: ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lorna Clauson" <lornaclauson@mac.com> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:34 PM > Subject: [H,H,HV] family search > > >> Hello everyone, >> I'm Lorna Clauson, (retired Commerce Teacher) NZ, but half Australian as >> my dad was born in Dubbo. (Hope that helps!) I'm trying to find the man >> who married my grandmother in NZ in 1878 - I'm descended from her second >> marriage. Their marriage certificate gives his place of birth as >> Edinburgh, and at age 25 would have been born c1853. No birth > certificate >> has been found. Not long after their daughter was born he deserted wife >> and child and went to Australia, never to be seen or heard of again. No >> trace of his name has been found on shipping records so he probably >> travelled under an assumed name. However we recently discovered the >> following. >> >> He seems to have used any of the following names: Henry Mordaunt Cramond, >> Mordaunt Cramond Gunn, or Mordaunt Cramond Booth Gunn. According to a >> marriage certificate from NSW a person of the latter name married Miney >> Booth in Newcastle in May 1881. Booth-Gunn's occupation was listed as >> "surgeon" on this Marriage Cert. >> >> I should be most grateful for any information on this person as none of > his >> family in NZ can find any trace of him. Thanks a lot. >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Ray, Pardon my ignorance, but what is a google search? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hawkins" <ray15@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search A suggestion > Hello Lorna. > Have you tried searching the NSW Birth Death and Marriages indexes on-line > under each of those possible surnames? It is a long-winded process, as they > only permit a 10-year search at a time; but if you persevere you never know > what you might find. > (Sorry, I don't have the URL handy -- try a google search and you should get > it quickly). > Good Luck: ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lorna Clauson" <lornaclauson@mac.com> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:34 PM > Subject: [H,H,HV] family search > > > > Hello everyone, > > I'm Lorna Clauson, (retired Commerce Teacher) NZ, but half Australian as > > my dad was born in Dubbo. (Hope that helps!) I'm trying to find the man > > who married my grandmother in NZ in 1878 - I'm descended from her second > > marriage. Their marriage certificate gives his place of birth as > > Edinburgh, and at age 25 would have been born c1853. No birth > certificate > > has been found. Not long after their daughter was born he deserted wife > > and child and went to Australia, never to be seen or heard of again. No > > trace of his name has been found on shipping records so he probably > > travelled under an assumed name. However we recently discovered the > > following. > > > > He seems to have used any of the following names: Henry Mordaunt Cramond, > > Mordaunt Cramond Gunn, or Mordaunt Cramond Booth Gunn. According to a > > marriage certificate from NSW a person of the latter name married Miney > > Booth in Newcastle in May 1881. Booth-Gunn's occupation was listed as > > "surgeon" on this Marriage Cert. > > > > I should be most grateful for any information on this person as none of > his > > family in NZ can find any trace of him. Thanks a lot. > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >