Further to Marie's enquiry about William Wiseman and the loss of the "Industry" - a reference appears on the Historic Australian Newspapers, 1803 to 1954 website on the National Library of Australia website at http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home This newspaper has been digitised but not available to access at present. However if you are keen you could try and check it out at a location holding the Sydney Herald 1831 like a State Library or large repository. Omniana The Sydney Herald (NSW... Monday 18 April 1831, page 4. News 1800 words ... bring the distressing account of the loss of the Industry, a Colonial-built vessel, ... women were drowned. AV. Wiseman, two men escaped, and nie ... ainvalol ihe next ship. Wiseman was a rcinaikably active, gond-hiokiug voting man, Min of Mr.... Other references online included a site called "Australian Royalty" http://www.easystreetretreat.com.au/australianroyalty/family.php?famid=F12084&ged=purnellmccord.ged and on the NZ Rootsweb mailing list http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/NEW-ZEALAND/2006-01/1138686691 and stacks more if you to do a Google search using all these words: grono this exact wording or phrase: "william wiseman" obviously a lot of descendants. Michelle Nichols