Hi Kelly I found the Application to Marry in my files. About 8 years I transcribed these records. The application was initially rejected and the reason given was "Not allowed until further particulars are furnished respecting Smith as there are 2 of them by the Indefatigable holding a TOL" You will be able to find a copy of the original documents as part of the ARC Records held by the State Records of NSW on microfiche. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Anderson Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 12:05 PM To: Hills Hawkesbury Hunter Subject: Re: [HHHV] CHARLOTTE AUGUSTA PEARCE/JAMES SMITH DESCENDANTS & INFO In reply to Lesley: > James Smith was a convict. The reason I know this is because > he applied > for > permission to marry Charlotte in 1833. > James was one of the two convicts of that name who arrived > on the > Indefatigable (2) in 1815. Thanks for confirming this. I had found the 2 James Smith's on the Indefatigable but wasn't 100% that it was him. Now I will be able to find his records at the Old Bailey. Can I ask where you found the record regarding James seeking permission to marry Charlotte. I have not come across this. Kelly