This information was found in the Sydney Morning Heralds of 1885 while information was being gathered to index into < <http://www.ryersonindex.org/> http://www.ryersonindex.org/> <outbind://16/www.ryersonindex.org> www.ryersonindex.org . This is List No.13 of 20 lists from the Sydney Morning Herald of 6 April, 1885. HOOKE, F., assistant draftsman,Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. HITCHINS, Alfred James Petersen, first class surveyor. Surveyor General. HOPKINS, William, clerk, drawing branch. Surveyor General. HIXSON, E.M., assistant surveyor. Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. HORNEMAN, Charles Wynford, second- class surveyor. Surveyor General. HOCTER, Wm. de Burgh, clerk, drawing branch. Surveyor General. HOTSON, J.B., surveyor, Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. HODGKINSON, P.C., second- class draughtsman. Surveyor General. HOUGH, Alfred Leopold, fifth-class draftsman (Parish Maps). Surveyor General. HOGAN, Daniel, acting clerk of petty sessions. Woodburn. HOUISON, A., foreman of works.Colonial Architect. HOGAN, Joseph William, lithographic printer. Surveyor General. HOUISON, David,district engineer. Harbours and Rivers. HOGAN, William, special first-class draftsman. Surveyor General. HOWARD, Frederick, draftsman. Harbours and Rivers. HOGARTH, Clement, draftsman,District Survey Office. Surveyor General. HOWARD. W.H., clerk Lease Branch.Lands. HOGG, C.E., surveyor, Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. HOWELL, A.J., clerk. Colonial Architect. HOGG, David, inspector, Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. HOWELL, A.B., fifth-class draftsman, Parish Maps.Surveyor General. HOLLIMAN, John William, clerk. Public Works. HUDSON, Alfred Wm., second-class draftsman. Surveyor General. HOLLINGS, J.A.,draftsman, District Surveyor Office. Surveyor General. HUGHES, Frederick, special first-class draftsman. Surveyor General HOLLINGS, J.A., draftsman, District Surveyor Office. Surveyor General. HULLETT, E.H.H., special first-class draftsman. Surveyor General. HOLMES, A.B., first-class draftsman, Surveyor General. HUNGERFORD, Edward, clerk. Sewerage. HOLMES, D.F., third-class draftsman. Surveyor General. HUNT, Atlee Arthur, clerk, drawinf branch. Surveyor General. HOLSCHER, Hermann, third-class draftsman. Surveyor General. HUNT Francis de V., clerk. Lands. HOLT J., extra tide waiter. Customs. HUNT, H.T., clerk. Lands. HOMAN, Julius, draftsman, Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. HUNT,J., extra tide waiter. Customs. HOME, Richard Lyons, second-class draftsman. Surveyor General. HUNTER, Alexandra J., clerk. Harbours and Rivers. If you are able to assist in furthering this list please contact oldboybill@westnet.com.au Margaret Wilbow Heywood.

Good Morning List, Volunteers have been transcribing the Civil Service List of 1885 to the Sydney Rootsweb List and this morning I found one which might interest listers here. John GILBERT was the actiing clerk of petty sessions at St Albans. Sincerely, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine B" <tina_1957@msn.com> To: "ANS List" <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: [ANS] List No. 11 of 20 of Civil Sevice Lists from SMH of 6 April, 1885‏ > > > > > > While > information was being gathered to index into www.ryersonindex.org > this Civil Service List was found which may interest a lister. > > This is > List No. 11 of 20 lists from the Sydney Morning Herald of 6 April, 1885. > > > > > > Fraser, > Robert Allen, road superintendent, Roads and Bridges > > Fraser, W., > inspector, rabbit branch, Mines > > Frazer, > James, assistant district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief > > branch, Railways > > Freeman, > William, clerk, drawing branch, Surveyor-General > > Friederick, > W., assist, draftsman, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Rlwy. > > Fry, > Francis E., supernumerary draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Fulton, > Henry, field assistant, Surveyor-General > > Fynmore, > Harry, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Fyson, J. > G., clerk, Lands > > Gaden, R. > W., inspector, rabbit branch, Mines > > Galloway, > Robert M., special first-class draftsman. Surveyor-Gnl. > > Garland, John, field assistant, > Surveyor-General > > Garvan, > Callaghan Francis, second-class surveyor, Surveyor-Genl, > > Garvin, > William Charles, fourth-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Geary, > Edwin M., superintendent, Harbours and Rivers > > Gelsow, F. > H. Surveyor, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > Gerality, > D., extra tide waiter, Customs > > Gibb, > Alexander, clerk, Money Order Office and Government S. Bk. > > Gibbes, J. > A. O., surveyor, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > Gibson, > Charles R., clerk, Money Order Office and Govern’t S. Bk. > > Gigney, > George, lithographic draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Gilbert, F. > B., extra tide waiter, Customs > > Gilbert, H. > J. B., assistant to plan-mounter, Surveyor-General > > Gilbert, > John, acting clerk of Petty Sessions, St. Albans > > Gill, H., > extra tide waiter, Customs > > Gill, > Robert, cadet, Roads and Bridges > > Gillett, > Cecil S., fourth-class draftsman (parish maps), Surveyor- > > General > > Glanham, C. > O., clerk, drawing branch, Surveyor-General > > Glanham, T. > D. Y., first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Glasheen, > W. Albeus, probationary clerk, General Post Office > > Glasson, > Robert G., second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General > > Glover, W., > district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > Goddard, > John A., acting clerk Petty Sessions, Burraga > > Godfrey, > James, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > Godfrey, > Thomas, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > Goodchap, > C. W., draftsman, Colonial Architect > > Goode, > Francis, special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Goode, > Harold Geithuer, fifth-class draftsman, trigonometrical > > branch, Surveyor-General > > Goodhew, > George, acting clerk of petty sessions, Frogmore > > Good(su)r, > William, cadet, Harbours and Rivers > > Goodwin, > Thomas H. H., second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General > > Gordon, > Robert Charles, assistant computer, trigonometrical > > branch, Surveyor-General > > Gordon, W., > Chinese inspector, Customs > > Gordon, > William Matherson, assistant surveyor, Surveyor-General > > Gracie, > Arthur, road superintendent, Roads and Bridges > > Graeme, > Henry Weir, second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General > > Grant, > Alexander, third-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Grant, G, > S, M., inspector, rabbit branch, Mines > > Gregory, > Arthur H., clerk, clerical branch, Surveyor-General > > Grenwell, > Anthony, third-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Greville, > George H., draftsman, Mines > > Grey, W. C. > assistant district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, > > Railways > > > > > > If you > would like to assist in further publishing this list please contact > oldboybill@westnet.com.au > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Take a peek at other people's pay and perks Check out The Great Australian > Pay Check > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.13500 > http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

This information was found in the Sydney Morning Heralds of 1885 while information was being gathered to index into <http://www.ryersonindex.org/> www.ryersonindex.org . This is List No.9. of 20 lists from the Sydney Morning Herald of 6 April, 1885. COX, Cecil Digby, Cadet, Roads and Bridges. COX, Edward, Cadet, Engineer in Chied Branch, Railways. COX H.B., Clerk, Lands. COX, Hartley Digby, roads superintendent, Roads and Bridges. COX, J.S., Draftsman, district survey office, Surveyor General. CRAIG,J.B., Clerk, Lands. CRANE, David Edward, probationary clerk, General Post Office. CRANNA, Robert Smyth, fields assistant, Surveyor Generals Office. CRAVEN, J.H., draftsman, district survey office, Surveyor General CRAWSHAW, Edward, sixth class draftsman, parish maps, Surveyor General. CREGO, John Byrne, acting sub-collector, Corowa, Customs. CREOR, Edward T., second- class draftsman, Surveyor General. CRESWELL, Algernon Townsend, field assistant, Surveyor General. CROCKER, Francis N. first class draftsman. Surveyor General. CROFT, G.L., probationary clerk, General Post Office. CROFT, Herbert, clerk. Lands. CROKER, J.J., inspector, rabbit branch. Mines. COMIE, Thomas Carlyle, acting clerk of petty sessions and registrar, small debts court. Rockley, COMMELIN, J.C.W. superintending inspector, rabbit branch. Mines. CRUIKSHANK, inspector, Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. CUMMING, John, surveyor, Engineer in Chief,. Railways. CUMMINGS, Reginald O. clerk.Harbours and Rivers. CUMMINS, Sydney Malcolm, field cadet. Roads and Bridges. CUNNEN, Henry, clerk. Harbours and Rivers. CUNNINGHAM, C.R., third class draftsman.Surveyor General. CUNNINGHAM, W., acting assistant timber measurer. Customs. CURRIE, V., special first class draftsman.Surveyor General. DALY, John Eugene, special first class draftsman. Surveyor General. DALTON, Michael J. clerk. Harbours and Rivers. DARCY, J. extra tide waiter. Customs. DARRAGH, H.C., fourth class draftsman. Surveyor General. DARTON, L.?., fifth class draftsman. Surveyor General. DAUNT, G.T., acting clerk of petty sessions, Wanaaring. DAVEY, Hedle William, messenger. Surveyor General. DAVIES, Charles, clerk. Lands. DAVIS, George Frederick, acting clerk of petty sessions. Panbula. DAVIES, G.H., extra tide water. Customs. DAVIS Edward Thomas, first-class draftsman. Surveyor General. DAVIS, Isaac B.,clerk, lease branch. Lands. DAVIS. Joseph, surveyor and draftsman. Sewerage. DAWSON, Henry B., draftsman. Harbours and Rivers. DAWSON, J.H. extra tide waiter. Customs. DAY, Alfred G. clerk, Money Order Office and Government Savings Bank. DAY, G., inspector,rabbit branch. Mines. DAY, John Wilson, acting clerk of petty sessions. Menindie. DAY, M.T., inspector, rabbit branch. Mines. DEANE, H., district engineer, Engineer- in- Chief Branch. Railways. DEANE, Percy D., clerk . Lands. DEIGHTON, R., inspector conditional purchases. Lands. DEIGHTON, Robert, first-class draftsman. Surveyor General. DENNY, A.C., clerk. Lands. DEWDNEY, G. Warring, second-class surveyor. Surveyor General. DEWHURST, Augustus,field assistant. Surveyor General. DILLON, T.Richard, second-class draftsman. Surveyor General. DIMELOW, James Bearspark, special first class draftsman. Surveyor General. DIND, Arthur T.,clerk. Roads and Bridges. DIXON, G.H.H.,extra tidewaiter. Customs. DOBBIE, Stuart Randolph, fiels assistant. Surveyor General. DORPH, J. Frederick, first class draftsman. Surveyor General. DOWELL, J.W. draftsman. Colonial Architect. DOWNEY, George, field assistant.Surveyor General. DOWNING, G.H., extra tide waiter. Customs. DOWNING, T., inspector rabbit branch. Mines. DRAKE, W.A., draftsman. Colonial Architect. DRAPER, James G., acting clerk of petty sessions. Wilsons Downfall. DREW, E.L., draftsman. Colonial Architect. DUDLEY, William Guilford Coulter, second-class draftsman. Surveyor General. DUNBAR, Joseph, inspector, Egineer in Chief branch. Railways. DUNN, A. McClure, clerk, drawing branch, Surveyor General. DUNN, W.E., assistant district engineer, Engineer in Chief branch, Railways. DUNSTONE, Joseph, road superintendent. Roads and Bridges. DUTTON Cecil, inspector, Engineer Chief ranch, Railways. DWYER, C.B.,clerk. Mines. DWYER, S. extra tidewaiter. Customs. If you are able to assist in further publishing this list please contact <mailto:oldboybill@westnet.com.au> oldboybill@westnet.com.au Margaret Wilbow Heywood.

Thanks Elizabeth, I too had seen the church before the trees - about 30 years or so ago. My family had spent some school holidays at the caravan park at Wisemans Ferry and a friend had driven us along the road to see the old church. I recall no fencing and no trees or shrubs and you could stand inside, close your eyes and transport yourself back in time. At that time I wasn't aware that there were most probably ancestors who had attended church there or were buried in the cemetery. In fact I didn't even think of ancestors back then!! Thanks again Maureen On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Convict Trail <convicttrail@bigpond.com>wrote: > > > > 2. Re: ST. JOSEPHS CHURCH AND CEMETERY MacDonald Valley > (Maureen Gibbs) > > Is the church and graveyard in > question the one that's on the left hand side of the road when driving from > Webb's Creek ferry crossing to St. Albans? > > Yes Maureen that is the church and from you description the new owner must > have also cleared some trees from in front of the church also as it was > quite prominent on the hill side. But then I had seen it before and knew it > was on a hill side above the road so knew where to look. > Elizabeth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Norma, Thanks for that. I am about 10 years off yet. There is just so much information in these papers. Regards,Bill > Hi Bill, > >>From what my grandmother told me she was about 9 or 10 when it happened. >>She > was born in 1888 - so that makes it about 1897/8. Have no idea what time > of > year , but I guess it would have been in the summer E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13490 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

2. Re: ST. JOSEPHS CHURCH AND CEMETERY MacDonald Valley (Maureen Gibbs) Is the church and graveyard in question the one that's on the left hand side of the road when driving from Webb's Creek ferry crossing to St. Albans? Yes Maureen that is the church and from you description the new owner must have also cleared some trees from in front of the church also as it was quite prominent on the hill side. But then I had seen it before and knew it was on a hill side above the road so knew where to look. Elizabeth

Hi Elizabeth and all, Have watched this thread with interest. Is the church and graveyard in question the one that's on the left hand side of the road when driving from Webb's Creek ferry crossing to St. Albans? Early this year my daughter and I went looking for them, being interested in the cemetery, but it was so overgrown we didn't dare enter it. And almost missed the old church as we couldn't see it through the trees and shrubs. I think it's a shame that both the church and cemetery have been allowed to deteriorate as they're part of the Hawkesbury heritage. I sincerely hope the least that will happen is the clearing of the trees and shrubbery around the church as well as the cemetery. I guess the cost of renovating the church would be exorbitant. Maureen (Melbourne) On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Convict Trail <convicttrail@bigpond.com>wrote: > > > I drove past there today, there was no for sale or sold by sign that I > could > see but the invasive vegetation has recently been cleared from the > cemetery. > It has been many years since I went down that side of the river and St > Josephs was a large church for the area. > > Regards Elizabeth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I drove past there today, there was no for sale or sold by sign that I could see but the invasive vegetation has recently been cleared from the cemetery. It has been many years since I went down that side of the river and St Josephs was a large church for the area. Regards Elizabeth

Hi Bill, >From what my grandmother told me she was about 9 or 10 when it happened. She was born in 1888 - so that makes it about 1897/8. Have no idea what time of year , but I guess it would have been in the summer time. Regards, Norma. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <oldboybill@westnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [HHHV] ST. JOSEPHS CHURCH AND CEMETERY > Dear Coralie, > Do you know the date of the original fire? > May find a SMH story on it. > Regards,Bill

Dear Coralie, After thumbing through nearly ten years of hard copy SMH I am starting to get a definate feel of how they run in sequence of material offered regularly. Headlines are never in big print as they are today. For local news never in bold type, and the heading can be vague, compared to the story itself. There are a lot of items of interest that come up annually such as the awarding of mail contracts, which was a State function and gives the name of the contractor, the delivery run, times per week, whether on horseback or by cart. University results, Inquests, Marine Inquiries, Mine Accidents and the subscription lists raising funds for the widows thereof. A huge Civil Service List. I started off posting a section of the Civil Service List to the Sydney List. My thoughts were that it was an item of interest, giving the name, job description and location of each Civil Servant, thousands of names, which I could not reproduce myself as my commitment firstly is to the Ryerson Index, and it is with the assistance of the LITHGOW FHG that I can have access to these papers, so much easier to read than on microfilm doing what I am doing. At the end of the post I asked for volunteers to continue to post the list in sections and only had one reply, posting one extra list. There are so many Inquests and Court matters that of course contain names of witnesses etc, and then the Casualty List from the hospital which seems to start regularly about mid 1886. Max Bancroft volunteered to post some Inquests so I sent him thumbnails and they are attrcting quite a bit of interest, his postings being fairly regular over the past couple of months. One lister asked about the publication date not being on one entry, so I tried once again to get a volunteer to continue the Civil List, with just one volunteer again, the same person, posting the two I sent him. A lot of this information pops up in strange places, and of course places like Palm Beach, Hornsby, Turramurra, along with the area this list has interests in were all in the Country News columns, but there could also be a little block item as well. Then of course what appears to be an editorial type column, often has items taken from country papers dealing with some major type incident. To do the job properly one would need to sit down and read the few news pages thoroughly. I get the items I see, and try to do it fairly consistently, but there will be items that I have missed. When I started, just getting items for the Ryerson Index, off the front and back page, Deaths then being on the front page, and Funerals on the back, I could do a book of three months in an hour. Now it takes me all day to do the same size book. So to respond to your last line, I will keep an eye out for the fire report. It is one of the things I regularly look for anyhow, there having been so many fires back then. Major city fires etc. Regards,Bill Posted via the list as an item of interest. > > I've never been able to come closer than the 1880s. "The Forgotten > Valley" > by M. Hutton Neve states that the building was completed about 1845 or > 1846 > although services were held there before the roof was erected. She says > that the fire occurred about forty years later. > > Yes, please watch out for an article while you're doing the 1880s. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13470 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Hi Bill, I've never been able to come closer than the 1880s. "The Forgotten Valley" by M. Hutton Neve states that the building was completed about 1845 or 1846 although services were held there before the roof was erected. She says that the fire occurred about forty years later. Yes, please watch out for an article while you're doing the 1880s. Regards, Coralie -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Tuesday, 13 October 2009 10:06 PM To: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HHHV] ST. JOSEPHS CHURCH AND CEMETERY Dear Coralie, Do you know the date of the original fire? May find a SMH story on it. Regards,Bill

Dear Coralie, Do you know the date of the original fire? May find a SMH story on it. Regards,Bill > Yes, it's a worry. There are my ancestors Edward Reilly and his wife > Eleanor nee Hearne buried there as well as Ann Daniel nee Sullivan and > some > of her children, a 5 week old Andrew Edward Thomas Sullivan in 1873 > without > a headstone and other Hearne/Stewart relatives. > > It must have been a beautiful building in its day. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13470 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Hi Michelle, Thanks so much for putting my mind at rest. That's terrific news. Regards, Coralie -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Nichols Sent: Tuesday, 13 October 2009 8:31 PM To: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HHHV] St Joseph's Church and cemetery Ho Coralie That is correct. The guy that purchased them is quite keen on restoring things and eventually allowing the public to access. Cheers Michelle Nichols >

Ho Coralie That is correct. The guy that purchased them is quite keen on restoring things and eventually allowing the public to access. Cheers Michelle Nichols > > I've heard a rumour that the ruins of the St. Joseph's Church and Cemetery > at Central MacDonald have been sold recently. Can anyone confirm this > please? > > Coralie

Hi Norma, Yes, it's a worry. There are my ancestors Edward Reilly and his wife Eleanor nee Hearne buried there as well as Ann Daniel nee Sullivan and some of her children, a 5 week old Andrew Edward Thomas Sullivan in 1873 without a headstone and other Hearne/Stewart relatives. It must have been a beautiful building in its day. Regards, Coralie cdhird@optusnet.com.au Researching SULLIVAN, HEARNE, REILLY, ROSE, HOBBS, STUBBS from the HAWKESBURY RIVER NSW area. -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Norma McLean Sent: Tuesday, 13 October 2009 2:45 PM To: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com; AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HHHV] ST. JOSEPHS CHURCH AND CEMETERY In 1983 my Grandmother wrote some reminiscences for me. In part of it she says - "Across the valley there stood - and still stands to-day - an old Catholic Church beautifully built of local stone.It lost its roof in a bush-fire. Before losing its roof a visiting priest would from time to time come to celebrate mass there for the catholic community. My sister Queenie and I watched with dismay as the roof fiercely burned away. Within its grounds are a few headstones where once some few Catholics were buried. One well known to me was my uncle Frank Hearne" A visit to St Albans won't be the same if it disappears.

Hi Coralie, No I haven't heard that. Don't like the sound of it. I have a description from my Grandmother Walker who was a child at the time, how she & her older sister watched it burn from their farm on the other side of the River, so it has always had a fascination for me .Our common relative - my G/G/Uncle & your cousin 1R - Frank Hearne is buried there, also his Dad. It's been so well preserved, let's hope it doesn't disappear like so many other things. In 1983 my Grandmother wrote some reminiscences for me. In part of it she says - "Across the valley there stood - and still stands to-day - an old Catholic Church beautifully built of local stone.It lost its roof in a bush-fire. Before losing its roof a visiting priest would from time to time come to celebrate mass there for the catholic community. My sister Queenie and I watched with dismay as the roof fiercely burned away. Within its grounds are a few headstones where once some few Catholics were buried. One well known to me was my uncle Frank Hearne" A visit to St Albans won't be the same if it disappears. Hope we can find out what is happening to it. Regards, Norma normabmc@bigpond.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coralie Hird" <cdhird@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:09 PM Subject: [HHHV] ST. JOSEPHS CHURCH AND CEMETERY > Hi All, > > I've heard a rumour that the ruins of the St. Joseph's Church and Cemetery > at Central MacDonald have been sold recently. Can anyone confirm this > please?

Hi All, I've heard a rumour that the ruins of the St. Joseph's Church and Cemetery at Central MacDonald have been sold recently. Can anyone confirm this please? Regards, Coralie cdhird@optusnet.com.au Researching SULLIVAN, HEARNE, REILLY, ROSE, HOBBS, STUBBS from the HAWKESBURY RIVER NSW area.

Morning All On a visit to St Albans in September we met up with Carol Gregory nee Jurd and were discussing the ruined Chapel of Our Lady of Loreto which is on her property.  Carol had been approached to sell that Chapel, or to at least enter negotiations which would allow it to be restored [which is a dream of hers].  Nothing is being done about it at present. During this conversation she did tell us that St Joseph's Church and Cemetery had been sold recently.  She didn't know any more than that at the time. Peter Stewart  researching Jurd, Tomlins, Stewart and any associated families - Today's Topics:    1. ST. JOSEPHS CHURCH AND CEMETERY (Coralie Hird)    2. Re: ST. JOSEPHS CHURCH AND CEMETERY (Norma  McLean) Hi All, I've heard a rumour that the ruins of the St. Joseph's Church and Cemetery at Central MacDonald have been sold recently.  Can anyone confirm this please? Regards, Coralie cdhird@optusnet.com.au Researching SULLIVAN, HEARNE, REILLY, ROSE, HOBBS, STUBBS from the HAWKESBURY RIVER NSW area. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:44:45 +1100 From: "Norma  McLean" <normabmc@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [HHHV] ST. JOSEPHS CHURCH AND CEMETERY To: <aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com>,     <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <2458BAFCD75F4746B4F6356F2093D912@your1695c3d4b4> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Hi Coralie, No I haven't heard that. Don't like the sound of it.  I have a description from my Grandmother Walker who was a child at the time, how she & her older sister watched it burn from their farm on the other side of the River, so it has always had a fascination for me .Our common relative - my G/G/Uncle & your  cousin 1R -   Frank Hearne is buried there, also his Dad.  It's been so well preserved, let's hope it doesn't disappear like so many other things. In 1983 my Grandmother wrote some reminiscences for me. In part of it she says - "Across the valley there stood - and still stands to-day - an old Catholic Church beautifully built of local stone.It lost its roof in a bush-fire. Before losing its roof a visiting priest would from time to time come to celebrate mass there for the catholic community. My sister Queenie and I watched with dismay as the roof fiercely burned away. Within its grounds are a few headstones where once some few Catholics were buried. One well known to me was my uncle Frank Hearne" A visit to St Albans won't be the same if it disappears. Hope we can find out what is happening to it. Regards, Norma normabmc@bigpond.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coralie Hird" <cdhird@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:09 PM Subject: [HHHV] ST. JOSEPHS CHURCH AND CEMETERY > Hi All, > > I've heard a rumour that the ruins of the St. Joseph's Church and Cemetery > at Central MacDonald have been sold recently.  Can anyone confirm this > please? ------------------------------ To contact the AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY list administrator, send an email to AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY mailing list, send an email to AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 169 ********************************************************************** __________________________________________________________________________________ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/

Good afternoon list, As I gather information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I have found the following deaths in the Sydney Morning Herald which have Hawkesbury connections. 27 Jan 1886. Alexander LATHLEEN died 21 Jan 1886 at his RIVERSTONE residence. Late of Devonshire England. Aged 47. 28 Jan 1886. Eliza Sophia CAMERON died 27 Jan 1886 at RICHMOND, beloved wife of Rev CAMERON. Aged 54 Funeral 2pm FRIDAY from Dr CAMERON residence. 31 Mar 1886. Maria Jane DUNSTAN died 23 Mar 1886 at her Macquarie Street WINDSOR residence. Wife of R. W. DUNSTAN. Aged 37. Sincerely, Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13420 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Dear Lynette, Image sent off list. Sincerely, Bill > Hi Bill > > Could I please have a copy of the Death notice for > > 22 Mar 1887. Keilia ??? BALDWIN died 18 Mar 1887 at WINDSOR wife of > Alfred. > Aged 41. > > Kezia BALDWIN nee COBCROFT E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13420 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/