I AGREE. Like the cemeteries they rip up for main Rds like old Windsor Rd. The cemetery the ripped up is mostly a mess of overgrown grass now. (the part that didn't end up as part of M7. -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 3:00 PM To: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HHHV] Cemeteries Hawkesbury Council care Hello Heather. I do not criticise the churches at all. I am an atheist, so I am not any sort of apologist for them. However, as I see it, they are generally confronted with falling memberships, thereby meaning falling income-levels; and with increasing costs for almost everything -- as the rest of us experience too (the economic downturn which seems to have given massive cost reductions in the UK, Europe, and the USA; has not given us any of that here in oz). In this situation, the churches can only rationalise the situation by selling off their only assets. As far as I know they don't generally receive any sort of government assistance; so they just have to do what the rest of us have to do: sell off whatever assets we have remaining. I guess that what I mean overall, is that I don't believe that we should interpret their selling off of churches, graveyards, etc. as any sign of lack of respect for pioneering families at all; but just responding to changed and changing economic circumstances. And taking your perspective on a different tangent, perhaps the body which should be showing that respect for pioneers on behalf of us all, might be the federal and state governments. Instead of wasting millions of dollars every time that they decide to have another enquiry on some issue or other, they might put that money to good use in the maintenance etc. of such historic repositories as old graveyards. Now there's a radical perspective for you! lol Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather ." <h_o_green@hotmail.com> It is depressing what little regard the Church's have for these pioneering families. If it wasn't for them would any of us be here? > > Cheers Heather ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good afternoon list, Gathering information to index into www.ryersonindex.org I found this Civil Service List in the Sydney Morning Herald of 2 April 1885. The list, in full, has been posted to the Rootsweb Sydney List. There are more to come. Armstrong, William Wield, clerk of petty sessions, land agent, coroner, warden's clerk, Rylstone Adrian, Frederick G, clerk of petty sessions, Branxton Bremer, F G, clerk, local land board office, Maitland, Lands Brown, William Le Brun, clerk of petty sessions, Gulgong Cane, F, superintendent, Hospital for Insane, Newcastle Cutcliffe, Charles, clerk of petty sessions, Murrumburrah Fawcett, Charles H., police magistrate and coroner, mining warden, Port Stephens, Bulladelah Fligg, H., storekeeper, Newcastle, Railways Henry, William Ebenezer, clerk petty sessions, warden's clerk, Henry William Hemsworth, assistant clerk of petty sessions and registrar, District Court, Newcastle Williams, Thomas Making, clerk petty sessions, Clarence Town If you can help to further post this list, or index for the Ryerson Index, supply indexing information for the Ryerson Index, please contact me off list. Sincerely, Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13530 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Hello Heather. I do not criticise the churches at all. I am an atheist, so I am not any sort of apologist for them. However, as I see it, they are generally confronted with falling memberships, thereby meaning falling income-levels; and with increasing costs for almost everything -- as the rest of us experience too (the economic downturn which seems to have given massive cost reductions in the UK, Europe, and the USA; has not given us any of that here in oz). In this situation, the churches can only rationalise the situation by selling off their only assets. As far as I know they don't generally receive any sort of government assistance; so they just have to do what the rest of us have to do: sell off whatever assets we have remaining. I guess that what I mean overall, is that I don't believe that we should interpret their selling off of churches, graveyards, etc. as any sign of lack of respect for pioneering families at all; but just responding to changed and changing economic circumstances. And taking your perspective on a different tangent, perhaps the body which should be showing that respect for pioneers on behalf of us all, might be the federal and state governments. Instead of wasting millions of dollars every time that they decide to have another enquiry on some issue or other, they might put that money to good use in the maintenance etc. of such historic repositories as old graveyards. Now there's a radical perspective for you! lol Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather ." <h_o_green@hotmail.com> It is depressing what little regard the Church's have for these pioneering families. If it wasn't for them would any of us be here? > > Cheers Heather

Thanks Michelle I have my Green and Dorrington families at Sackville. It is depressing what little regard the Church's have for these pioneering families. If it wasn't for them would any of us be here? Cheers Heather _________________________________________________________________ Take a peek at other people's pay and perks Check out The Great Australian Pay Check http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/

Good evening list, Genie has been posting quite a few Inquests to the Rootsweb Sydney List. This one may be of interest to a lister on this list. Sincerely,Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Genie" <wi.nash@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: [ANS] William Barton inquest > SYDNEY HERALD > > 11 October 1832 Thursday > > CORONER'S INQUEST > > An Inquest was held at ARGYLE FARM, near Windsor, before MR. HOWE, > Coroner, on Sunday week, on the body of WILLIAM BARTON, a Government > servant to MR. J. FORRESTER, who was dragged by a run-a-way colt he was > taking to water, and he head coming in contact with a post, it was > literally split, which cased instant death;- Verdict, accidentally killed. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.13530 > http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13530 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Good afternoon list, As I was gathering my usual www.ryersonindex.org information I found a Civil Service List in the Sydney Morning Herald. Transcribers have been posting the full list to the Sydney Rootsweb List, and from lists 12 and 13 of the 2 April, 1885 I cut and pasted a couple of names relevant to this area, which may interst a lister. Thomson, Andrew C., clerk, local land board office, Maitland, Lands Williams, Thomas Making, clerk petty sessions, Clarence Town Anyone who wishes to assist with transcibing this list, or with Ryerson Index work please contact me off list. Sincerely,Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13510 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Good afternoon list, While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following deaths relating to the Hawkesbury in the Sydney Morning Herald. 16 Jun 1886. Charles Homer MARTIN died on 11 Jun 1886, aged 91. Late of Freemans Reach, WINDSOR. 12 children including Mrs James GRAHAM, 91 grandchildren, ?97 great grandchildren. 22 Jun 1886. W HULL Sen. invited relatives and friends to the funeral of his late beloved wife Mary of Macquarie Street WINDSOR at half past 2 o'clock THIS DAY. COLLISON Undertaker. Sincerely,Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Good afternoon list, Gathering information to index into www.ryersonindex.org the Civil Service List of 1885 was found and is currently being transcribed to the Rootsweb Sydney List. From List #8 of 13 from the 2 April,1885 I found these names which are relevant to the area covered by this list, and may help a researcher. Isaacs, Francis Sheriff, clerk of petty sessions, crown lands agent, registrar district court, district registrar, Maitland Lloyd, Arthur Tidman, ?ub-collector, Morpeth, Customs Anyone who can help with further transcribing, Ryerson Indexing or information for Ryerson Indexing please contact me off list. Sincerely,Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Good afternoon list, This message on the Sydney Rootsweb List may interest a lister here. Sincerely,bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Genie" <wi.nash@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 3:07 PM Subject: [ANS] Frances merchant inquest > SYDNEY HERALD > > 16 August 1832 > > CORONER'S INQUEST > > An Inquest was held at the School House, below WISEMAN'S on the > HAWKESBURY, on the 13th instant, on the body of FRANCES MERCHANT, a child > of two years of age, who had strayed from her house, fell into a hole of > water (which had been dug for a well.) three foot deep, and was drowned. > > A Verdict of "Accidentally Drowned" was returned, and the hole directed to > be filled up or fenced in. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.13500 > http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Good afternoon list, While gathering information for indexing into www.ryersonindex.org I found a Civil Service List in 1885 which is currently being transcribed in full into the Rootsweb Sydney List. I have cut and pasted some relative to this area from the last list to be posted this morning, 7 of 13 on the 2 April, 1885. De Boos, Charles, police magistrate, Copeland Evans, George R., clerk of petty sessions, Murrurundi Fitzpatrick, Henry A., clerk-in-charge local land board office, Maitland, Lands Foley, Timothy, C.P.S. and Crown lands agent, Muswellbrook Gordon, Henry, P.M. and clerk of petty sessions, Wollombi If any lister would like to help in the further transcription of that list please contact me off list. The whole list covers every Civil Servant at that time. Sincerely, Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

The cemetery at Londonderry (Penrith City Council) was owned by Uniting Church who sold to a private owner. Condition of sale was that people could still have access to the site. The site has been sold again and not sure if cemetery is being made available. All people buried there have been moved. On Behalf Of Michelle Nichols In response to Heather's query h_o_green@hotmail.com "Is the cemetery still in Council or Church hands? My Daniel family is buried there. What would a private owner want with a cemetery?" Unfortunately over the years the various church authorities have sold off property which is no longer viable for them to operate. This has happened in quite a few instances in the Hawkesbury where churches have been closed to lack of congregations and eventually sold, including several in the Macdonald Valley plus St. Phillip's Anglican Church at North Richmond, Comleroy Road Methodist Cemetery, St. Thomas Anglican Church, Sackville. People purchase these and often make use of the church building as a house or B&B, whilst cemeteries are fenced off and the surrounding land used for whatever. There are several churches recently on the market including one at Lower Portland. Cemeteries under Care, Control & Management of Hawkesbury City Council are as follows: 1. Richmond Lawn Cemetery 2. Pitt Town General Cemetery 3. Lower Portland Cemetery 4. St Albans New General Cemetery 5. Wilberforce General Cemetery 6. Windsor Catholic Cemetery 7. St Albans Old General Cemetery 8. General Cemetery on the Macdonald River 9. Richmond Presbyterian Cemetery 10. Sackville Reach Cemetery 11. Half Moon Farm Cemetery 12. South Windsor Presbyterian Cemetery 13. McGraths Hill Methodist Cemetery 14. Bilpin Cemetery (not in use) Cemeteries such as Ebenezer Cemetery, St. Peter's Anglican Cemetery Richmond and St. Matthew's Anglican Cametery in Windsor are still operated by the church. Michelle Nichols ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In response to Heather's query h_o_green@hotmail.com "Is the cemetery still in Council or Church hands? My Daniel family is buried there. What would a private owner want with a cemetery?" Unfortunately over the years the various church authorities have sold off property which is no longer viable for them to operate. This has happened in quite a few instances in the Hawkesbury where churches have been closed to lack of congregations and eventually sold, including several in the Macdonald Valley plus St. Phillip's Anglican Church at North Richmond, Comleroy Road Methodist Cemetery, St. Thomas Anglican Church, Sackville. People purchase these and often make use of the church building as a house or B&B, whilst cemeteries are fenced off and the surrounding land used for whatever. There are several churches recently on the market including one at Lower Portland. Cemeteries under Care, Control & Management of Hawkesbury City Council are as follows: 1. Richmond Lawn Cemetery 2. Pitt Town General Cemetery 3. Lower Portland Cemetery 4. St Albans New General Cemetery 5. Wilberforce General Cemetery 6. Windsor Catholic Cemetery 7. St Albans Old General Cemetery 8. General Cemetery on the Macdonald River 9. Richmond Presbyterian Cemetery 10. Sackville Reach Cemetery 11. Half Moon Farm Cemetery 12. South Windsor Presbyterian Cemetery 13. McGraths Hill Methodist Cemetery 14. Bilpin Cemetery (not in use) Cemeteries such as Ebenezer Cemetery, St. Peter's Anglican Cemetery Richmond and St. Matthew's Anglican Cametery in Windsor are still operated by the church. Michelle Nichols

Good Afternoonn List. My apologies to anyone who was affected by the excess submissions yesterday. I was not aware of a load restriction. The full Civil Service List can be found on the Sydney Rootsweb List. I extracted this couple from List 4 or 13 published on 2 April, 1885 and relate to this area. Logan, W. R., sub-collector, Newcastle, Customs Yates, Leopoldm police magistrate, Maitland Sincerely, Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Morning All Is the cemetery still in Council or Church hands? My Daniel family is buried there. What would a private owner want with a cemetery? Cheers Heather _________________________________________________________________ Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox Find out how here http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=823454

Good evening list, This list is being posted to the Rootsweb Sydney List in full, but I am reposting this here as some lister may be interested in John Thomas P'BRIEN appointed acting clerk of petty sessions, COORANBONG. Apologies for any cross posting. Sincerely, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter O'Brien" <pmo2167@gmail.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 8:51 PM Subject: [ANS] Civil Service List from SMH part #16 > While information was being gathered for The Ryerson Index (* > www.ryersonindex.org* <http://www.ryersonindex.org/>) a Civil Service List > was found in the Sydney Morning Herald of 6 April, 1885. This is part #16 > of > that list. > > > Morgan, William John, messenger, Surveyor-General > > Moriarty, Alexander D. McLean, cadet, Harbours and Rivers > > Moriarty, E. J., second-class draftsman, (parish maps), Sur.-Gen > > Moriarty, Harry Allaster Orpen, field cadet, Roads and Bridges > > Morris, Alfred, surveyor, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > Morris, Richard, acting clerk of petty sessions, Broughton Creek > > Morton, Oswald Gordon, road superintendent, Roads and Bridges > > Mossop, G. C., sub-inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > Moulean, H., draftsman, Colonial Architect > > Mouritz, R. D., acting clerk of petty sessions, Moulamein > > Mudge, P. P., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Mulholland, J., extra tide-waiter, Customs > > Mullen, Arthur William, field assistant, Surveyor-General > > Mullen, George Sidney, field assistant, Surveyor-General > > Murphy, John, acting clerk of petty sessions, Bundarra > > Murphy, M. V., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Murray, A., foreman of works, Colonial Architect > > Murray, D. H., second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General > > Murray, James Aubery Gibbes, special first-class draftsman, > Surveyor-General > > Murray, John, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Murray, S. B., foreman of works, Colonial Architect > > Murray, Stanley Lees, probationary clerk, General Post Office > > Myring, Thomas H., officer-in-charge, Rabbit Branch, Mines > > Nalder, William H., second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General > > Naldrett, F., extra tide-waiter, Customs > > Nathan, Temple F. S., clerk, Quarter Sessions > > Napier, Phillip D., draftsman, Harbours and Rivers > > Neilly, Frederick G. P., field cadet, Roads and Bridges > > Nelson, Frederick, acting clerk of petty sessions, Bungendore > > Nelson, John, foreman of works, Colonial Architect > > Nelson, W. A., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Netterfield, Nathaniel, acting clerk of petty sessions, Cassilis > > Newman, A. C., assistant custodian of wills, Supreme Court > > Newman, F. A., clerk, drawing branch, Surveyor-General > > Newman, Harry, second-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Nicholas, C, E., district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > Nicholson, W. H., clerk, Lands > > Nicholson, W. T., clerk, Lands > > Nicolle, William, draftsman, Harbours and Rivers > > Nihill, Pierce, acting-landing-waiter, Sydney, Customs > > Niven, David, draftsman, Colonial Architect > > Noble, Edward George, field assistant, Surveyor-General > > Norrie, T. H., extra tide-waiter, Customs > > Norris, Henry, acting clerk of petty sessions, Euston > > Norton, F. H., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Nowell, F. B., second-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Nyberg, K. G., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Oates, George, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > Oatley, William K., clerk, Harbours and Rivers > > Oberg, Johan August, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > O'Brien, John Thomas, acting clerk of petty sessions, Cooranbong > > O'Brien, T., extra tide-waiter, Customs > > O'Brien, Thomas, acting clerk of petty sessions, Hargraves > > O'Brien, W. E., clerk, miscellaneous branch, Lands > > O'Byrne, James, clerk, Lease branch, Lands > > O'Connell, R. M., draftsman, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > O'Connor, John, acting clerk of petty sessions, Oberon > > Officer, G. H., inspector, Rabbit branch, Mines > > Ogden, George, special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > O'Grady, Martin Francis, clerk, Clerical branch, Surv.-General > > O'Halloran, L., extra tide-waiter, Customs > > Ohlpen-Bagge, Christian H., chief assistant engineer, Sewerage > > Oom, Gustaf Petter Ludwig August, second-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Oram, John George, clerk, Roads and Bridges > > Ord, Charles R., clerk, Roads and Bridges > > Orr, James, draftsman, Harbours and Rivers > > O'Reilly, Peter, acting clerk of petty sessions, Booligal > > Osborne, Henry, cadet, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > Osler, E., extra tide-waiter, Customs > > Owen, J. L., assistant district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, > Railways > > Owen, Robert H., draftsman, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > Owen, Thomas, draftsman, district survey office, Surveyor-Gen > > Oxley, James Orchard, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > > Pairman, James C., clerk, Harbours and Rivers > > Pallard, John, line repairer, Railways > > Palmer, Edwin W., clerk, Lands Department > > Palmer, Isaac, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > > Palmer, James Alfred, special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-Gen > > Parker, G. H., clerk, Lands > > > > I'm merely one of Bill's helpers in transcribing this list and if you > would > like to assist in further publishing this list please contact * > oldboybill@westnet.com.au* <oldboybill@westnet.com.au> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.13500 > http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Good evening list, This list is being posted in full on the Rootsweb Sydney List, but I am reposting here in case anyone has an interest in William ROBERTS appointed acting clerk of petty sessions at COOLAH. Apologies for any cross posting. Sincerely, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine B" <tina_1957@msn.com> To: "ANS List" <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: [ANS] This is List No.17 of 20 lists from the Sydney Morning Herald of 6 April, 1885. While information was being gathered to index into www.ryersonindex.org this Civil Service List was found which may interest a lister. This is List No.17 of 20 lists from the Sydney Morning Herald of 6 April, 1885. Ohlpen-Bagge, Christian H., Chief assistant engineer, Sewerage Oom, Gustaf Petter Ludwig August, second-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Oram, John George, clerk, Roads and Bridges Ord, Charles R., clerk, Roads and Bridges Orr, James, draftsman, Harbours and Rivers O’Reilly, Peter, acting clerk of petty sessions, Booligal Osborne, Henry, cadet, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Osler, E., extra tide-waiter, Customs Owen, J. L. assistant district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Owen, Robert H., draftsman, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Owen, Thomas, draftsman, district survey office, Surveyor-Gen. Oxley, James Orchard, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Pairman, James C., clerk, Harbours and Rivers Pallard, John, line repairer, Railways Palmer, Edwin W., clerk, Lands Department Palmer, Isaac, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Palmer, James Alfred, special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-Gen. Parker, G. H., clerk, lands Parker, Samuel, acting clerk of petty sessions, Nymagee Parkes, J. H., inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Parkes, T., extra tide-waiter, Customs Parkinson, Arthur, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Parkinson, Thomas, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Rl’ways Parkinson, William Henry, first, class draftsman, Surveyor-Gen. Parr, F, clerk, Money Order Office and Government S. Bank. Parsons, George, second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General Paterson, Charles Frederic, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-Gen. Paterson, Edward F., draftsman, district survey office, Sur.-Gen. Paterson, Emil, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Paton, Alfred, special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Paton, Claude, cadet, Harbours and Rivers Paton, Theophilus James, clerk, drawing branch, Surveyor-Gen. Peach, Henry, second-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Peake, Algernor, field-assistant, Surveyor-General Pearse, T. H., extra tide-water, Customs Pearson, Andrew, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Peel, George, clerk, deeds branch, Lands Pegus, Arthur H., weigh clerk, Harbours and Rivers Pell, E. J., assistant surveyor, Engineer-in-Chief branch, R’ways Pennefather, Cecil, second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General Penny, G. W., clerk, Lands Perdrian, Albert William, field assistant, Surveyor-General Perrott, Thomas M., superintendent, Harbours and Rivers Phillips, A., extra tide-waiter, Customs Phillips, J., inspector, rabbit branch, Mines Piggott, Charles Henry, acting clerk of petty sessions, Warren Piggott, William T., acting clerk of petty sessions, Pooncarie Pike, George H., second-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Pike, John Francis, special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-Gen. Pinner, William, third clerk, rabbit branch, Mines Pinnington, Sydney J., second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General Piper, F. assistant draftsman, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Piper, Frederick Charles, chief clerk and accountant, Sewerage Pitt, John T. M., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Plovitz, A. R. de. draftsman, District Survey Office, Surveyor-G. Plunkett, A. G., associate to Judge Faucett, Supreme Court Podmore, A. S., inspector, rabbit branch, Mines Pool, John, second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General Potts, E., extra tide-waiter, Customs Power, Marcus B., clerk, Roads and Bridges Powys, Arthur Owen, draftsman, District Survey Office, Sur.-Gen. Pratt, Edward, third-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Price, J., extra tide-waiter, Customs Pridham, Theodore, draftsman, Harbours and Rivers Pring, Thomas, second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General Pringle, James, foreman of works, Colonial Architect Purdie, Henry Francis, field cadet, Roads and Bridges Purdue, A. J., clerk, Colonial Architect Purves, T., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Rabone, Frederick. clerk, M. O. Office and Gov. Savings’ Bank Rabone, Stephen G., clerk, Harbours and Rivers Ramsay, James A., clerk, Ministerial branch, Lands Randall, Alfred, district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Ranken, Thomas, fourth-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Rankin, William Hutchinson C., field clerk, Roads and Bridges Raymond, Thomas Walter, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-Genl. Raymond, T. Walter, mining surveyor, Mines Read, Alfred, acting clerk of petty sessions, Baradine Reddie, John Spittal, second-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Reid, William, third-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Reynolds. John, clerk, General Post Office Reynolds, W., extra tide-waiter, Customs Rhodes, E. E., assistant draftsman, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Rhodes, Thomas, assistant district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Richardson, H. P., inspector, Rabbit branch, Mines Ridley, F. A., first-class draftsman (parish maps). Surveyor-Gen. Rieck, A., assistant draftsman, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Riekie, John, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Rigg, Samuel, draftsman, Colonial Architect Robb, Andrew, second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General Robbins, J., acting forest ranger, Mines Roberts, Frederick, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Roberts, William, acting clerk of Petty Sessions, Coolah Roberts, W., Scarlett de Lisle, surveyor and draftsman, Sewerage Robertson, John James, mining surveyor, Mines Robinson, J. G. S. special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Robson, M. R., extra tide-waiter, Customs Roche, William, acting clerk of petty sessions, Blayney Rochford, S. R., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Rolleston, John C., resident engineer, Harbours and Rivers Ronalds, J. A., clerk, Lands If you would like to assist in further publishing this list please contact oldboybill@westnet.com.au _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your iPhone Find out how here http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=845706 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Good afternoon list, As I gathered information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found these death notices in the Sydney Morning Herald that relate to the Hawkesbury area. 13 May 1886. George Alexander MACFIE. Eldest son of the late Rev George MACFIE. Presbyterian Church, EBENEZER and PITT TOWN. 14 May 1886. Rev Charles WOODS died on 30 Mar 1886 at BAYSWATER. Brother of Rev. Dr. WOODS of RICHMOND. Sincerely,Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Good afternoon list, Posting from the Rootsweb Sydney List as some lister may have an interest in W MAYO, Acting Clerk of Petty Sessions, GLOUCESTER. Sincerely, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine B" <tina_1957@msn.com> To: "ANS List" <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 2:45 PM Subject: [ANS] List No.15 of 20 lists from the Sydney Morning Herald of 6 April, 1885. While information was being gathered to index into www.ryersonindex.org this Civil Service List was found which may interest a lister. This is List No.15 of 20 lists from the Sydney Morning Herald of 6 April, 1885. M’Lean, Joseph Edward, special first-class draftsman, Sury-Gen. M’Leod, D. A., draftsman, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways M’Maugh, J., inspector, rabbit branch, Mines M’Millan, William, clerk, clerical branch, Surveyor-General M’Monnies, D., Chinese inspector, Customs M’Mordie, David, assistant engineer in field, Sewerage M’Mullen, Henry, clerk, General Post Office M’Pherson, Robert Douglas, field cadet, Roads and Bridges M’Queen, Alexander, draftsman, Harbours and Rivers M’Roberts, Frederick, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Macartney, Rupert P., first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General MacCallum, George, second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General Macdonald, William C., lithographic printer, Surveyor-General Macdonnell, William J., clerk, clerical branch, Surveyor-General Macfarlane, Wm. M’P., emergency clerk of petty sessions, Justice Macgillycuddy, Arthur, clerk, Harbours and Rivers Mack, J. B., assistant district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Mackenzie, C. G., fourth-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Mackenzie, John B., resident engineer, Harbours and Rivers Mackey, Williams, clerk, Colonial Architect Mackintosh, H. B., fifth-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Maclean, Mordaunt L., officer-in-charge, Harbours and Rivers MacNevin, C. E. A., clerk, Audit Office Madden, J. E., acting clerk of petty sessions, Binalong Madden, M. P., clerk, clerical branch, Surveyor-General Maddock, Samuel, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief, Railways Maddocks, O. S., assisting in gauger’s department, Customs Maddocks, Robert Cattle, acting locker, Sydney, Customs Mahon, John, acting clerk of petty sessions, Tamba Springs Maitland, Percival de L., first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Maitland, Wm. H. M., clerk, drawing branch, Surveyor-General Makinson, Phillip J., draftsman, Harbours and Rivers Mallan, M., extra tide-waiter, Customs Mallan, W. J., acting locker, Customs Mallett, F. T., special first-class draftsman, City and Suburbs Sur- veys, Surveyor-General Mann, G. F., district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Rails. Manners, John, special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Manning, Harold Clyde, second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General Manning, W. H., associate to Judge Manning, Supreme Court Mansfield, Alfred, surveyor, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Mansfield, G. L., clerk, drawing branch, Surveyor-General Manton, W. A., inspector conditional purchases, Lands Marr, E. C., clerk, auction branch, Lands Marshall, C. A., fifth-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Marshall, G., cadet, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Marshall, John, draftsman, Harbours and Rivers Martin, H. E., assistant surveyor, Engineer-in-Chief branch, R’ys. Martin, William, draftsman, Mines Martin, W. J., associate to the Chief Justice, Supreme Court Matheson, G. M’Leod, road superintendent, Roads and Bridges Maunsell, R. Dilton, clerk, drawing branch, Surveyor-General Mayers, R. G., clerk, District Survey Office, Surveyor-General Mayes, Edward P., draftsman, Mines Mayo, W., acting clerk of petty sessions, Gloucester Mead, D. W., extra tide-waiter, Customs Meads, A. E., clerk, head office, Lands Meeson, George, third-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Meikle, David Henry, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Meldrum, J. Bede, jun.. road superintendent, Roads and Bridges Melrose, George, surveyor, Engineer-in-Chief Branch, Railways Mendell, A. M., draftsman, city and suburbs survey, Surveyor- General Mercer, Alexander, second-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Metcalfe, Edward Milner, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Mettam, John, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief Branch, Railways Middleton, D. D., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Middleton, E. S., inspector, Engineer-in-Chief Branch, Railways Milford, Herman, clerk, Roads and Bridges Miller, James, clerk, Immigration Agent’s Office Miller, W. V., assistant district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Millingtop, Richard Herbert, probationary clerk, G. P. Office Millner, W. J., surveyor, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Mingaye, John, assistant Government analyst Mitchell, Henry, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Mitchell, H. J. C., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Mocatta, George V., first-class draftsman (parish maps), Surveyor- General Mocatta, William Hugh, fourth-class draftsman, (parish maps), Surveyor-General Moneypeny, A. A., clerk, Drawing branch, Surveyor-General Montgomery, G. J., clerk, Drawing branch, Surveyor-General Montgomery, O. A. M., clerk, District Survey Office, Surveyor- General Moore, Ashley E., draftsman, Harbours and Rivers Moore, O. S., draftsman, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways Morgan, F. S., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General Morgan, J. A., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General If you would like to assist in further publishing this list please contact oldboybill@westnet.com.au _________________________________________________________________ Need a place to rent, buy or share? Let us find your next place for you! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

_____ From: barmar [mailto:barmar@in.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 17 October 2009 9:23 AM To: 'aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com' Cc: 'oldboybill@westnet.com.au' Subject: Civil list. Part 13, continued. While information was being gathered for The Ryerson Index (> <outbind://19/www.ryersonindex.org> www.ryersonindex.org) a Civil Service List was found in the Sydney Morning > Herald of 6 April, 1885. This is continuation of part #13 of that list. HUNTER, John B., special first-class draftsman. surveyot General. JENSEN, Fritz, special first-class draftsman. Surveyor General. HURLEY, Francis Gregory, field cadet. Roads and Bridges. JOHNSON, Edwin Hill, second-class surveyor. Surveyor General. HUTCHINSON, P., inspector, Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. JOHNSON, Edward William, second-class draftsman. Surveyor General. HUTCHINSON, W., district engineer, Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. JOHNSON, John Henry, first-class draftsman. Surveyor General. HYLAND, L, inspector, rabbit branch. Mines. JOHNSTONE, A.B., special first-class draftsman. Surveyor General. ICKERSON, Alfred, special first-class draftsman. Surveyor General. JOHNSTONE, John A., second-class draftsman. Surveyor General. IRVING, Sydney Richard, field assistant. Surveyor General. JOHNSTONE, Joseph B., clerk, drawing branch. Surveyor General. ISLER, Frederick H., second clerk, rabbit branch. Mines. JONES, Montague, draftsman, Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. JACOB, Alfred F., field assistant. Harbours and Rivers. JONES, Montgomery, acting clerk of petty sessions. Tuena. JACKSON, E.J., draftsman. Colonial Architect. JONES, Nicholas, clerk. Harbours and Rivers. JACKSON, Lindsay Astill, third-class draftsman. Surveyor General. Railways JONES, Thos., inspector, Engineer in Chief (Construction Branch). JAMES, Edwin, first class draftsman. Surveyor General. JONES, William, acting clerk of petty sessions. Jugiong. JAMES, Morris, field assistant. Surveyor General. JAMIESON, C.E., draftsman, Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. JAMIESON, Geo., district engineer, Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. JAMIESON, John J., surveyor, Engineer in Chief Branch. Railways. JAMIESON, Robert George, acting clerk of petty sessions. Mossgiel. If you are able to assist in publishing these documents please contact oldboybill@westnet.com.au Margaret Wilbow Heywood.

Good Morning List, At the risk of cross posting, this list is being posted by volunteers on the Rootsweb Sydney List and I noticed on which may interest listers on this list, Thomas DWYER is listed as the acting clerk of petty sessions at BROKE. Sincerely, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter O'Brien" <pmo2167@gmail.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:37 AM Subject: [ANS] Civil Service List from SMH > While information was being gathered for The Ryerson Index ( > www.ryersonindex.org) a Civil Service List was found in the Sydney Morning > Herald of 6 April, 1885. This is part #10 of that list. > > > Draper, James G., acting clerk of petty sessions, Wilson's Downfall > Drew, E. L., draftsman, Colonial Architect > Dudley, William Guildford Coulter, second-class draftsman, > Surveyor-General > Dunbar, Joseph, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > Dunn, A. McClure, clerk, drawing branch, Surveyor-General > Dunn, W. E., assistant district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, > Railways > Dunstone, Joseph, road superintendent, Roads and Bridges > Dutton, Cecil, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > Dwyer, C. B., clerk, Mines > Dwyer, S., extra tidewaiter, Customs > Dwyer, Thomas, acting clerk of petty sessions, Broke > Dyer, W. A., surveyor, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > Earl, S. E., extra tidewaiter, Customs > East, A. W., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > Eaton, G. W., second ledger-keeper, Surveyor-General > Eaton, S., cadet, Harbours and Rivers > Eccles, J. C., third-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > Eckford, A. J., clerk, Colonial Stores > Edmondson, W. H., fifth-class draftsman, parish maps, Sur.-Gn > Edwards, A., acting clerk of petty sessions, Wardell > Edwards, C. A., surveyor, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > Ehrenstrom, N. E. H., clerk, General Post Office > Elkin, J. G., field cadet, Roads and Bridges > Elliott, A. McK., first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > Ellis, F. K., second-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > Ellis, G. O., first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > Ellis, G. T., special first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > Ellis, H. G., second-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > Elwin, W. G., inspector, rabbit branch, Mines > Evans, C. W., acting clerk petty sessions, Seymour > Evans, Herbert Arthur, second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General > Evans, John, acting clerk of petty sessions, Ballina > Evans, W. G., draftsman, District Survey Office, Surveyor-General > Ewen, F. S. P., acting clerk of petty sessions, Gundaroo > Ewing, R., inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > Fagan, Michael, acting clerk of petty sessions, Sofala > Fairburn, F., assistant draftsman, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > Fairclough, J., inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > Fancourt, T. M., acting locker, Customs > Farr, James, foreman of works, Colonial Architect > Fawcett, B. H., draftsman, Colonial Architect > Fawns, Thomas, clerk, Drafting Branch, Surveyor-General > Fawns, Thomas Harley, fourth-class draftsman (parish maps), > Surveyor-General > Fay, J. H. J., extra tidewaiter, Customs > Felton, Arthur, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > Ferguson, T. A., second-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > Ferris, H. P., clerk, lease branch, Lands > Ferris, J. R., clerk, miscellaneous branch, Lands > Filan, Martin, acting clerk of petty sessions, Mount Hope > Firth, T. R., district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > Fischer, Frederick T., draftsman, Harbours and Rivers > Fisher, W. H., extra tidewaiter, Customs > Fitzgerald, A., sixth-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > Fitzgerald, Andrew F., draftsman, Harbours and Rivers > Fitzgerald, James Griffin, field assistant, Surveyor-General > Fitzgerald, Robert D., draftsman, Roads and Bridges > Fitzpatrick, Ambrose, foreman of works, Colonial Architect > Fitz Roy, Reginald, fifth-class draftsman, (parish maps), Surv.-G > Flannery, William Bede, special first-class draftsman, Surv.-Gen > Flavelle, Albert, cadet, Harbours and Rivers > Fleeming, J., extra tidewaiter, Customs > Fletcher, W. R., clerk, Lands > Flynn, James, acting clerk of petty sessions, Coraki > Flynn, John Edmund, second-class surveyor, Surveyor-General > Foreman, Walter, lithographic draftsman, Surveyor-General > Forrest, A. C., clerk, Lands > Forster, Lachlan J., field assistant, Surveyor-General > Forsyth, Adam, first-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > Foster, H. J., clerk, Lands > Foster, Thomas William, special 1st-class draftsman, Surveyor-G > Foster, William Henry, 2nd-class surveyor, Surveyor-General > Foulerton, Robert, clerk, clerical branch, Surveyor-General > Fowler, F. F. R., special 1st-class draftsman, Surveyor-General > Fox, William, inspector, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > Francis, Alfred, surveyor, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Railways > Francis, Charles Bowden, acting clerk of petty sessions, Boggabri > Francis, Phillip, assistant to marine surveyor, Harbours and Rivers > Fraser, Hugh, acting clerk of petty sessions, Kiandra > Fraser, Robert Allen, road superintendent, Roads and Bridges > Fraser, W., inspector, rabbit branch, Mines > Frazer, James, assistant district engineer, Engineer-in-Chief branch, > Railways > Freeman, William, clerk, drawing branch, Surveyor-General > Friederick, W., assist. draftsman, Engineer-in-Chief branch, Rlwy > Fry, Francis E., supernumerary draftsman, Surveyor-General > > > > I'm merely one of Bill's helpers in transcribing this list and if you > would > like to assist in further publishing this list please contact > oldboybill@westnet.com.au > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.13490 > http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13500 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/