HI Kelly James Smith was a convict. The reason I know this is because he applied for permission to marry Charlotte in 1833. James was one of the two convicts of that name who arrived on the Indefatigable (2) in 1815. One of them was tried at the Bristol Session of Peace, Oyer & Terminer & Gaol Delivery in April 1814 and was 38 when he arrived. The other was tried in London in 1814 and he was 14 years of age when he arrived. This one received a Conditional Pardon in 1834 and I would say that this was the one who married Charlotte. He was born about 1801 in London. Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Kelly Anderson Sent: Monday, 30 November 2009 6:32 AM To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY@rootsweb.com Subject: [HHHV] CHARLOTTE AUGUSTA PEARCE/JAMES SMITH DESCENDANTS & INFO Hi All I have recently discovered a connection with the Pearce family in Seven Hills. My husband descends from Charlotte Augusta Pearce and her husband James Smith. I am not 100% on the information that I have found about James Smith so I am asking if anyone can assist. This is what I have found: 1. Born approx 1801 in London 2. May have been an orchardist. 3. Assisted in building the bricks for a school in Seven Hills. 4. Resided at a property called Bellevue (I do not know where this is) in Baulkham Hills (according to the early newspapers). I have not yet found any land grants. 5. Resided in Bannaby for a period of time but not yet sure why. This is where he may have met Charlotte Augusta Pearce. 6. I have no idea if he was a free settler or a convict. 7. Also had a relationship with Charlotte Roughley (who also married Henry Greenacre Whall and Solomon Moss) producing 2 possibly 3 children. I am aware of ther books written on the Roughley family. 8. Died 9 Jul 1863 at Bellevue, Baulkham Hills, of an unexplained Head injury. 9. Buried St Johns Parramatta. 10. He had a number of children including Matthew Smith, Eliza Maria Smith, James Pearce Smith, Charlotte Pearce Smith, Martha Smith (our ancestor), William Smith and George Pearce Smith. 11. Following the death of James, his chattels and farming equipment was sold off at Matthew Smith's property (not sure where this is, but it was described as 6 miles from Parramatta at Baulkham Hills). My husband descends from James and Charlotte's daughter Martha Smith (married James Smith Ross), who, along with James, gave evidence at a murder trial involving William Rogers and Joseph Allsop (the victim). I am also looking for anyone who is a descendant or who is also researching this tree. If anyone can assist, it would be appreciated. Kelly

Hi Kelly There was a book written in 2004 about the history of Seven Hills. The author is Jack Brook and it was published by Blacktown City Library. It gives a chapter on the Pearce family. If you contact me offline then I can give you Jack's telephone number. It is printed in the book so it is no secret. Were you aware that the Pearce family have a tiny family burial plot on their property which is right on Seven Hills Road at Seven Hills North. My family are connected to the Roughleys and I assume that you have the book written by Ken Roughley. Bye Shirley McLeod > Hi All > > I have recently discovered a connection with the Pearce family in Seven > Hills. My husband descends from Charlotte Augusta Pearce and her husband > James Smith. I am not 100% on the information that I have found about > James > Smith so I am asking if anyone can assist.

Dear Kelly, Have you looked on the Parish maps for the property? There would have been an Inquest because of the head injury, so have you looked for a news report of this? It is most unlikely that you would find an Inquest file, as most did not survive for that period, but the newspaper report might be found on the National Library website. I am not sure if that era has yet been digitised. Have you checked his Probate Packet at Kingswood? If he is not listed on the Claim a Convict site, he probably was not a convict, but may show up on www.records.nsw.gov.au in a name check for both shipping and Probate. Sincerely,Bill > 4. Resided at a property called Bellevue (I do not know where this is) in > Baulkham Hills (according to the early newspapers). I have not yet found > any > land grants. > 5. Resided in Bannaby for a period of time but not yet sure why. This is > where he may have met Charlotte Augusta Pearce. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13800 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Hi All I have recently discovered a connection with the Pearce family in Seven Hills. My husband descends from Charlotte Augusta Pearce and her husband James Smith. I am not 100% on the information that I have found about James Smith so I am asking if anyone can assist. This is what I have found: 1. Born approx 1801 in London 2. May have been an orchardist. 3. Assisted in building the bricks for a school in Seven Hills. 4. Resided at a property called Bellevue (I do not know where this is) in Baulkham Hills (according to the early newspapers). I have not yet found any land grants. 5. Resided in Bannaby for a period of time but not yet sure why. This is where he may have met Charlotte Augusta Pearce. 6. I have no idea if he was a free settler or a convict. 7. Also had a relationship with Charlotte Roughley (who also married Henry Greenacre Whall and Solomon Moss) producing 2 possibly 3 children. I am aware of ther books written on the Roughley family. 8. Died 9 Jul 1863 at Bellevue, Baulkham Hills, of an unexplained Head injury. 9. Buried St Johns Parramatta. 10. He had a number of children including Matthew Smith, Eliza Maria Smith, James Pearce Smith, Charlotte Pearce Smith, Martha Smith (our ancestor), William Smith and George Pearce Smith. 11. Following the death of James, his chattels and farming equipment was sold off at Matthew Smith's property (not sure where this is, but it was described as 6 miles from Parramatta at Baulkham Hills). My husband descends from James and Charlotte's daughter Martha Smith (married James Smith Ross), who, along with James, gave evidence at a murder trial involving William Rogers and Joseph Allsop (the victim). I am also looking for anyone who is a descendant or who is also researching this tree. If anyone can assist, it would be appreciated. Kelly

Dear Sandra, The Land Titles Office in SYDNEY may hold records as to who owned the block. Also State Records at KINGSWOOD may hold the details of the first licensee. Sincerely, Bill Thank you very much. I will try that site. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13800 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Thank you all.  I tracked down the information needed for my research.  Henry Fleming was granted a liquor license on September 19th 1799 (SRNSW) and is also listed as 'landholder and publican at Pitt Town'  (SRNSW). Kind regards Sandra __________________________________________________________________________________ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/

Good evening list, While gathering information to index into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following deaths and funerals in the Sydney Morning Herald which may interest a lister. 9 Jul 1883. William Smith JENKINS of WINDSOR, at the residence of his sister in law, F R CONLON. FREEMANS REACH. 12 Jul 1883. Captrain R R JONES on 8 Apr 1883 at HOLYHEAD, NORTH WALES. Brother in law of R B HUGHES apoltheary, RICHMOND. 25 Jul 1883. Stephen FIELD on 12 Jul 1883 of RICHMOND. aged 83 years. 30 Jul 1883. Funeral of the father (not named) of Michael HOGAN to leave Sydney Station at 9am for WINDSOR Cemetery. 31 Jul 1883. Funeral of Frances PLUNKETT to leave William ALEXANDER's residence, Gliebe Road THIS (Tuesday) MORNING at 9am Redfern Railway to WINDSOR Cemetery. H KINSELA. Funeral Director. Regards,Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13800 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Hello Sandra >From The National Library Newspaper site: http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ Saturday 22 July 1815 Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser "PUBLIC NOTICE.-A large and commodious House having been some Time since erected, and lately completed, at a very considerable Ex pence, in the TOWN of WINDSOR, foran INN ; and a suitable Person having been engaged by the Pro prietor lor keeping the same, Notice is hereby given, that the said lim, called " The Macquarie Arms," and kept by Thomas Hanson, who formerly was an Innkeeper in England, will be opened for the Accommodation of the Public on Monday the 31st of this present month of July" Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser Saturday 29 July 1815 reported that the "spacious and commodious new inn at Windsor called the Macquarie Arms was opened by the Governor on Wednesday 26th instant" July 1815. It also reports "Mr Hansen who has taken on himself the duties of the Innkeeper" ........its quite an interesting article. Neither article really says who owned it. Perhaps further searches of the newspapers might help. Good luck Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Burton" <elseywoo@yahoo.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: [HHHV] Macquarie Arms Hotel >I am trying to find details of the original owner/licensee of the Macquarie >Arms Hotel in Windsor NSW. > > I was advised it was Henry Fleming (son of soldier Joseph Fleming). The > Col. Secretary's Index states that Henry Fleming lost his license in 1819, > but then I found another site that stated the original owner was a Mr > Fitzgerald. > > Can anyone help. Many thanks > > Sandra Burton > > > > __________________________________________________________________________________ > Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. > Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4645 (20091128) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4645 (20091128) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4645 (20091128) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Dear Bill Thank you. Kind regards Sandra ________________________________ From: Bill <oldboybill@westnet.com.au> To: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 30 November, 2009 4:27:41 AM Subject: Re: [HHHV] Macquarie Arms Hotel Dear Sandra, The Land Titles Office in SYDNEY may hold records as to who owned the block. Also State Records at KINGSWOOD may hold the details of the first licensee. Sincerely, Bill Thank you very much. I will try that site. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13800 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________________________ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/

Dear Rhonda Thank you very much.  I will try that site. Kind regards Sandra ________________________________ From: Rhonda Flowers <rwflowers@optusnet.com.au> To: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 29 November, 2009 8:44:33 PM Subject: Re: [HHHV] Macquarie Arms Hotel Hello Sandra >From The National Library Newspaper site: http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ Saturday 22 July 1815 Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser "PUBLIC NOTICE.-A large and commodious House having been some Time since erected, and lately completed, at a very considerable Ex pence, in the TOWN of WINDSOR, foran INN ; and a suitable Person having been engaged by the Pro prietor lor keeping the same, Notice is hereby given, that the said lim, called " The Macquarie Arms," and kept by Thomas Hanson, who formerly was an Innkeeper in England, will be opened for the Accommodation of the Public on Monday the 31st of this present month of July" Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser Saturday 29 July 1815 reported that the "spacious and commodious new inn at Windsor called the Macquarie Arms was opened by the Governor on Wednesday 26th instant" July 1815. It also reports "Mr Hansen who has taken on himself the duties of the Innkeeper" ........its quite an interesting article. Neither article really says who owned it. Perhaps further searches of the newspapers might help. Good luck Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Burton" <elseywoo@yahoo.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: [HHHV] Macquarie Arms Hotel >I am trying to find details of the original owner/licensee of the Macquarie >Arms Hotel in Windsor NSW. > > I was advised it was Henry Fleming (son of soldier Joseph Fleming). The > Col. Secretary's Index states that Henry Fleming lost his license in 1819, > but then I found another site that stated the original owner was a Mr > Fitzgerald. > > Can anyone help. Many thanks > > Sandra Burton > > > > __________________________________________________________________________________ > Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. > Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4645 (20091128) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4645 (20091128) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4645 (20091128) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________________________ Last chance to win a Sony entertainment pack thanks to Yahoo!7. Hurry, ends Nov 30. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/

I am trying to find details of the original owner/licensee of the Macquarie Arms Hotel in Windsor NSW.  I was advised it was Henry Fleming (son of soldier Joseph Fleming).   The Col. Secretary's Index states that Henry Fleming lost his license in 1819,  but then I found another site that stated the original owner was a Mr Fitzgerald. Can anyone help.  Many thanks Sandra Burton __________________________________________________________________________________ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following marriages relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Friday 19 May 1843 - At Wiseman's Ferry, Lower Hawkesbury River, on the night of Wednesday, the 10th instant, after a long illness, which she bore with true resignation. Catharine, wife of Mr. James Macready, of Bligh-street, Sydney, leaving an affectionate husband and child in the deepest affliction. Saturday 20 May 1843 - After a long and painful illness, at Woolstone Cottage, Bathurst, on the 12th instant, Eliza Matilda, the fourth daughter of Thomas Kite, Esq., aged 15 years. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following births relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Tuesday 2 May 1843 - On the 16th ultimo, at Boree Nyrang, Wellington, the lady of R. J. Barton, Esq., of a son Friday 19 May 1843 - At her residence, York Place, West Maitland, on the 11th instant, Mrs. R. P. Foster, of a son. Tuesday 23 May 1843 - At Newcastle, on Wednesday last, the 17th instant, Mrs. Frederic Becke, of a daughter. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following marriages relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Monday 3 April 1843 - By special license, on Saturday, the 25th instant, at St. Peter's Church, Richmond, by the Rev. A. W. Wallis, Thomas M. P. Wilshire, of George-street, Sydney, to Helen Eliza, second daughter of William Faithful, of Mount Pleasant, Richmond. Thursday 20 April 1843 - On Saturday last, the 15th instant, at the residence of Thomas Robinson, Esq., Camperdown, by the Rev. Dr. McGarvie, Mr. Joseph Marshall, of Sydney, to Esther, eldest daughter of Mr. James Stockdale, of Brisbane Water, and grand-daughter of George Robinson, Esq., of Carnaby, near Burlington, Yorkshire. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following deaths relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Wednesday 3 May 1843 - By special license, at St. John's Church, Parramatta, on the 2nd instant, Capt. Edwin Griffiths, Paymaster 96th Regt., to Margaret, relict of the late Henry Brooks, Esq., of Wentworth Cottage, Parramatta, and third daughter of the late Alexander Kenneth Mackenzie, of Dockrain, Bathurst. Friday 5 May 1843 - On Thursday, the 4th instant, by the Lord Bishop of Australia, George Blaxland, Esq., of the Wallan Hills, Hunter's River, to Mary ??ftus, youngest daughter of the late L. Rees Esq., of Glamorganshire Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following births relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Saturday 8 April 1843 - Ebenezer, Lake Macquarie, April 3, Mrs. S. D. Norris, of a daughter. Friday 14 April 1843 - At the Manse, Bathurst, on the 9th inst., the lady of the Rev. K. D. Smythe, of a son. Monday 17 April 1843 - At the Parsonage, Kelso, Bathurst, on Wednesday, the 12th instant, Mrs. Woodward, of a daughter. Monday 24 April 1843 - At Camyr Allyn, Paterson, on the 12th April, the lady of Charles Boydell, Esq., J. P., of a son. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following deaths relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Tuesday 7 March 1843 and Wednesday 8 March 1843 - At his residence, Bathurst, on the 28th February last, after a lingering and painful illness, Mr. Barnett Emanuel, storekeeper, age 45 years, deeply regretted by all who knew him. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following marriages relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Tuesday 7 March 1843 - On Tuesday, 28th February, at Goongorrah, Lower Hawkesbury, by the Rev. W. B. Clarke, M. A., John Selkirk, Esq., of Sydenham Cottage, Macdonald River, eldest son of the late Rev. Thomas Selkirk, incumbent of St. John's, Bury, Lancashire, and Chaplain to the Earl of Dunmore, to Sarah, second daughter of the late Edward Pryce, Esq., of Dublin, and sister of the Rev. E. G. Pryce, B. A., Chaplain of the district of the Lower Hawkesbury and Macdonald. Tuesday 21 March 1843 - At the residence of Mr. E. S. Hall, Brisbane Water, on the 15th instant, by the Rev. Mr. Macfie, of Portland Head, Mr. Francis O'Brien to Miss Georgiana E. Hall. Saturday 25 March 1843 - At Parramatta, on the 23rd instant, by the Rev. J. Troughton, Charles Edward Langley, of Sydney, third son of Fergus Langley, J.P., of Lickfuin, county of Tipperary, Ireland, to Hectorina Australia, youngest daughter of the late Alexander Kenneth McKenzie, of Douchean, Bathurst. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following births relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Friday 3 March 1843 - At her residence, Wallalong, Paterson River, on the 28th instant, the lady of J. B. R. Robertson, Esq., of a son. Thursday 30 March 1843 - On the 6th instant, Mrs. Samuel Taylor, of the Hawkesbury River, of a son and daughter. Patricia

6. Jeremiah Barrett b 1831 Gt.Chesterford, Essex (Pat Rawlings) Re Jeremiah Barrett I would look for him in the Assisted Immigrant indexes, then if there in the associated records that will give you information on where he came from and parents and whether living or deceased, also sometimes to whom they were sent till they had worked the regulation time in exchange for the transport to NSW. Regards Elizabeth Message: 6 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:43:52 +1100 From: "Pat Rawlings" <jessie@satlink.com.au> Subject: [HHHV] Jeremiah Barrett b 1831 Gt.Chesterford, Essex To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <006501ca6a43$b40770a0$6401a8c0@patrawli> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am not sure if I have the right area for this man but here goes anyway. Jeremiah left England and Came to NSW, Australia sometime in the 1860's. I think that he married a Jane Unknown before he left the UK. They had four children. Mary was born 1861 Sydney, Walter was born 1862 Muswellbrook, George was born 1865 Musswellborrk and Ann(ie) was born in 1868 Musswellbook. Can anyone help me with this family. Cheers. Pat ------------------------------ To contact the AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY list administrator, send an email to AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY mailing list, send an email to AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 204 **********************************************************************