Good afternoon list, While I was gathering information to be soon indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following deaths in the Sydney Morning Herald which may help a lister. 18 Dec 1883. John LORD died 9 Dec 1883, of Sunnyside NORTH KURRAJONG. Aged 63. 19 Dec 1883. Thomas LANE Funeral moving from WINDSOR Railway Station THIS (Wednesday) MORNING at 11 o'clock. Father Robert invited friends. Henry MASON. Undertaker. 74 Oxford Street. 21 Dec 1883. Mary HASSALL died at her residence BERKSHIRE PARK near WINDSOR 15 Dec 1883. relict of Jonathan HASSALL. Aged 86. 25 Dec 1883. In Memoriam type notice in the Deaths column for Catherine HEGGARTY who died 23 Dec 1875, aged 75, formerly of Greenfield KURRAJONG. 29 Dec 1883. Funeral of James LANE to leave from WINDSOR Railway Station THIS (Saturday) MORNING at 11 o'clock. (NB no cemetery named) H MASON. Undertaker. 74 Oxford Street. Sincerely, Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13950 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following deaths relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Tuesday 30 April 1844 - At Richmond, on the 21st instant, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. John Fawcett, of that place, aged seventy-six years. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following marriages relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Tuesday 9 April 1844 - At Pitnacree, near Maitland, on the 3rd April, by the Rev. James Forbes, A.M., of Melbourne, the Rev. William McIntyre, A.M., of Maitland, to Mary, daughter of the late Donald McIntyre, Esq., of Blairmore, Glenartney, N.B. Friday 12 April 1844 - At St. Peter's Church, East Maitland, on the 6th instant, by the Rev. G. K. Rusden, John Crone, son of James Raymond, Esq., Postmaster-General, to Phoebe Elizabeth, eldest daughter of James Barker, Esq., of East Maitland. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following births relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Friday 5 April 1844 - At Stroud, Port Stephens, the lady of Philip Gidley King, Esq., J.P., of a son. Tuesday 30 April 1844 - At Newcastle, on Thursday, the 25th instant, Mrs. Willoughby Bean, of a son. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following deaths relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Monday 4 March 1844 - On the 24th of February, at Newcastle, of fever, after a month's illness, Emily, second daughter of the late William Taylor Jey, Esq. At his residence, West Maitland, on Wednesday last, the 28th ultimo, Mr. Richard Johnson, late of Sydney, in his 71st year. Monday 11 March 1844 - On Tuesday morning, the 5th instant, at five minutes past five, after a long and painful illness, Mr. Robert Tighe of the Union Inn, Newcastle, leaving a wife and seven children to deplore their loss. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following marriages relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Friday 8 March 1844 - On Tuesday, the 5th instant, at St. Matthew's Church, Windsor, by the Rev. J. Troughton, Captain Richard Ramsbottom, eldest son of James Ramsbottom, of Clewer Lodge, Windsor, to Anna, only daughter of the late William Cox, Esq., of Fairfield, Windsor. Thursday 21 March 1844 - On Tuesday, the 12th instant, by the Rev. J. Isaacs, according to the rites of the Mosaic law, Mrs. Julia Emanuel, widow of the late Barnet Emanuel, of Bathurst, to Mr. John Barnett, of the same place. Friday 22 March 1844 - By special license, on the 16th instant, at St. John's Church, Mudgee, by the Rev. James Gunther, Edward Bayley, Esq., to Jane Isabella, second daughter of Mrs. Middleton, Sydney. Wednesday 27 March 1844 - By Special License, on the 26th instant, at St. Bartholomew's Church, Prospect, by the Rev. John Troughton, Edward Smith Hill, of Sydney, to Mary Ann, eldest daughter of Joseph Pye, Esq., of Eastern Creek. Friday 29 March 1844 - By special license, on Monday, the 18th instant, at Trinity Church, Kelso, by the Rev. C. Woodward, Mr. Henry Rotton, of Bathurst, to Mary Ann, eldest daughter of Mr. John Ford, of Kelso. Patricia

Dear Bill You said in your email: "Unfortunately State Records at Kingswood have none of these Inquest files, so the newspaper report is in most cases the only record, apart from on the Death Registration." How right you are! I have my great great great grandmothers DC and I have been to State Records at Kingswood to look for her inquest details in 1869. The DC and the 'one line entry' re inquests at State Records at Kingswood did nothing to really satisfy my curiosity about her death. Tonight I found a detailed account of her death by drowning in Pitt Town Bottoms during the floods of 1869 ...and a detailed account of her inquest linking family members and providing clues for other avenues of research. I cannot stress enough the value of some of the articles I have found in the newspapers relating to my ancestors. Cheers Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <oldboybill@westnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [HHHV] Deaths February 1844 > Dear Patricia, > > If I can move forward about 40 years from the papers you have been looking > at and just expand a little on what can be found. About every two weeks > there was an edition of the Sydney Morning Herald that carried an extra > line > in the banner, "Supplementary summary per (name of ship)". > > That paper carried mostly a full page, sometimes more of items dealing > with > Policitical, Social, Mining, Industry and big news items such as floods > and > fires, and went to the U.K. to keep them up to date with news from the > "colony" > > Not every paper, but many, carried a Summary of the Births Deaths and > Marriages published in the SMH since the last list, so that gives the date > of birth for the child, marriage and death. These can often take up well > over a full column, even though most are one line entries. > > Some notices from country areas were published in the SMH, but I have > found > that the majority of death notices from country areas did not have a > funeral > notice. > > There was a Country News column most days, sometimes small but often half > a > column, headed by the town name, and in there anything from a weather > report > to a report of death, or Inquest result can be found. Places like Penrith > and Palm Beach were in the country area in those times. > > Sometimes at the end of the Country News the SMH reprinted a full news > item > from a country paper, giving the source paper credit. > > These are in addition to the Court Reports and Inquests that Max has been > posting to the Sydney Rootsweb List. > > Later still most days there was a column, sometimes small, but often with > half a dozen entries "Casualties" and that gives a small run down of an > incident that resulted in someone being taken to hospital, complete with > name and address. > >>From time to time these people died, and a couple of days later there is a > report of the Inquest. Unfortunately State Records at Kingswood have none > of > these Inquest files, so the newspaper report is in most cases the only > record, apart from on the Death Registration. > > Of course a lot of new items were on those foundering ships you spoke of, > and then the Marine Board inquiry which followed. > > I think most of us race to the Death and Funeral Section when we want > information for our research, but I urge researchers to take a few minutes > to read some of the other items in the paper too. > > Fortunately I have access to 20 years of bound copies of the Sydney > Morning > Herald which are retained by the Lithgow Family History Society, 1881-1899 > from which I am extracting information to be indexed into > www.ryersonindex.org but finding many other items of interest along the > way. > These bound copies are easier to read than the microfilm version, but much > more difficult to handle. > > Sincerely, Bill > > > >> It is amazing (to me) the information found in many of these early >> notices >> and I am pleased whenever these notices are of use to listers, I know how >> excited I felt when I found mention of my own family members. >> I have not found any information to say whether the BDM notices were paid >> for or not but I have come across several mentions that the editions of >> the SMH were sent to England by packet ship and many notices that say >> "Home papers please copy" so I suspect many of these early notices are >> to >> let relatives in England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland know when their >> relatives had children, married or died. > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.13920 > http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4689 (20091215) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4689 (20091215) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Dear Patricia, If I can move forward about 40 years from the papers you have been looking at and just expand a little on what can be found. About every two weeks there was an edition of the Sydney Morning Herald that carried an extra line in the banner, "Supplementary summary per (name of ship)". That paper carried mostly a full page, sometimes more of items dealing with Policitical, Social, Mining, Industry and big news items such as floods and fires, and went to the U.K. to keep them up to date with news from the "colony" Not every paper, but many, carried a Summary of the Births Deaths and Marriages published in the SMH since the last list, so that gives the date of birth for the child, marriage and death. These can often take up well over a full column, even though most are one line entries. Some notices from country areas were published in the SMH, but I have found that the majority of death notices from country areas did not have a funeral notice. There was a Country News column most days, sometimes small but often half a column, headed by the town name, and in there anything from a weather report to a report of death, or Inquest result can be found. Places like Penrith and Palm Beach were in the country area in those times. Sometimes at the end of the Country News the SMH reprinted a full news item from a country paper, giving the source paper credit. These are in addition to the Court Reports and Inquests that Max has been posting to the Sydney Rootsweb List. Later still most days there was a column, sometimes small, but often with half a dozen entries "Casualties" and that gives a small run down of an incident that resulted in someone being taken to hospital, complete with name and address. >From time to time these people died, and a couple of days later there is a report of the Inquest. Unfortunately State Records at Kingswood have none of these Inquest files, so the newspaper report is in most cases the only record, apart from on the Death Registration. Of course a lot of new items were on those foundering ships you spoke of, and then the Marine Board inquiry which followed. I think most of us race to the Death and Funeral Section when we want information for our research, but I urge researchers to take a few minutes to read some of the other items in the paper too. Fortunately I have access to 20 years of bound copies of the Sydney Morning Herald which are retained by the Lithgow Family History Society, 1881-1899 from which I am extracting information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org but finding many other items of interest along the way. These bound copies are easier to read than the microfilm version, but much more difficult to handle. Sincerely, Bill > It is amazing (to me) the information found in many of these early notices > and I am pleased whenever these notices are of use to listers, I know how > excited I felt when I found mention of my own family members. > I have not found any information to say whether the BDM notices were paid > for or not but I have come across several mentions that the editions of > the SMH were sent to England by packet ship and many notices that say > "Home papers please copy" so I suspect many of these early notices are to > let relatives in England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland know when their > relatives had children, married or died. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13920 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

It is amazing (to me) the information found in many of these early notices and I am pleased whenever these notices are of use to listers, I know how excited I felt when I found mention of my own family members. I have not found any information to say whether the BDM notices were paid for or not but I have come across several mentions that the editions of the SMH were sent to England by packet ship and many notices that say "Home papers please copy" so I suspect many of these early notices are to let relatives in England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland know when their relatives had children, married or died. The newspaper was the obvious way of doing this as many ships foundered but many copies of the SMH arrived in England so the information was available even if a letter didn't arrive because of a shipwreck. Patricia Thankyou Patricia for the note on Mary Anne Parry (nee Musty). My G G Grandmother, she was buried on their property and I am surprised the SMH was informed.

Thankyou Patricia for the note on Mary Anne Parry (nee Musty). My G G Grandmother, she was buried on their property and I am surprised the SMH was informed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia" <adsl4805@tsn.cc> To: "HHHV" <aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:23 PM Subject: [HHHV] Deaths February 1844 > While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I > found the following deaths relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the > Sydney Morning Herald. > > Wednesday 14 February 1844 - At Mangrove Creek, on the 17th January, aged > 45 years, Mary Anne, wife of Griffith Parry, leaving seven children and a > large circle of friends to deplore their loss. > > > > This one is not specific to the list area but is interesting for the > content in the notice > > Saturday 17 February 1844 - At his residence, Parramatta, on the 15th > instant, aged seventy-four, Francis Oakes, Esq., one of the oldest > colonists, having arrived about forty-four years ago. He was one of the > original body of missionaries sent out per the ship Duff, in the year > 1797, for the Society Islands, by the London Missionary Society. Being > driven thence, with several of his colleagues, by the persecutions of the > natives, he settled at Parramatta about the commencement of the present > century, and for many years held successively various confidential > situations under the colonial government. It is an interesting historical > fact that Mr. Oakes married the first female born in New South Wales of > British parents, his lady being also either the first or the second > Anglo-Australian that ever was married. Their progeny of children and > grand-children is very numerous. > > Patricia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Good evening list, While gathering information to index into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following deaths in the Sydney Morning Herald which may be of interest to a lister. 27 Sep 1883. Joseph Anthony BOAKE at the Parsonage St ALBANS, Diocese of Newcastle. 23 Sep. 28 Sep 1883. George WALKER Sen 26 Sep 1883, at his residence New Street WINDSOR. Formerly St Rollex Academy GLASGOW, 20 years a teacher at WINDSOR. 87years 6 months. Funeral to move from his residence THIS DATE FRIDAY 28th 2 o'clock PM. (no Cemetery mentioned) 6 Oct 1883. Caroline COBCROFT 24 Sep 1883 at WILBERFORCE. Aged 51. 27 Nov 1883. Helen Whitely CALDER on 20 Nov 1883 at SINGLETON, aged 27. In the same notice. Mabel Vina Ann CALDER on 4 Nov 1883 aged 5months 19 days. 1 Dec 1883. John McGREGOR on 28 Oct 1883 of WAVERLEY Tram Guard, formerly of Nelsons Plains, HUNTER RIVER, aged 41. Sincerely,Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13910 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Hi Alan, I'm descended from Patrick Daley and Mary Coleman. Contact me on, herbert2@hotkey.net.au Nancy Herbert----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Bradley" <yeldarba@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: [HHHV] Daley-Coleman-Mangan > Greetings Listers, > > > > I am new to the list but for the last 20 years (with some success) have > been > researching Patrick Daley, a convict who came from Wexford, Ireland and > arrived on the Lady McNaughton in 1835, and his wife Mary Ann Coleman who > arrived on the Almorah 3 in 1824 as a 10 month old child with her mother > Catherine Mangan (aka Coleman) who was also a convict originating from > County Westmeath, Ireland. Catherine later married John Armstrong and > later, possibly Joseph Moore. > > > > Patrick and Mary Ann lived in the Halls Flats-Maroota-Pitt Town area with > some of their descendants moving to Moree-Warialda-Terry Hie Hie with some > subsequently coming back to the Hawkesbury and living at Wilberforce. > > > > Patrick and Mary Ann's descendants married members of the Turnbull, > Greentree, Rose etc families. > > > > I would be pleased to hear from any other Lister researching any of these > families particularly before, but also after their respective arrivals in > NSW. > > > > Regards > > > > Alan Bradley > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.101/2555 - Release Date: 12/09/09 19:41:00

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following deaths relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Wednesday 14 February 1844 - At Mangrove Creek, on the 17th January, aged 45 years, Mary Anne, wife of Griffith Parry, leaving seven children and a large circle of friends to deplore their loss. This one is not specific to the list area but is interesting for the content in the notice Saturday 17 February 1844 - At his residence, Parramatta, on the 15th instant, aged seventy-four, Francis Oakes, Esq., one of the oldest colonists, having arrived about forty-four years ago. He was one of the original body of missionaries sent out per the ship Duff, in the year 1797, for the Society Islands, by the London Missionary Society. Being driven thence, with several of his colleagues, by the persecutions of the natives, he settled at Parramatta about the commencement of the present century, and for many years held successively various confidential situations under the colonial government. It is an interesting historical fact that Mr. Oakes married the first female born in New South Wales of British parents, his lady being also either the first or the second Anglo-Australian that ever was married. Their progeny of children and grand-children is very numerous. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following marriages relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Saturday 3 February 1844 - By Special License, on the 1st instant, by the Rev. Dr. Lang, James Fletcher, late of Manchester, now of the Temperance Coffee House, to Janet Farrell, widow of the late Mr. Bayles, of Bathurst. Monday 5 February 1844 - By special license, on the 1st instant, by the Rev. Dr. Lang, James Fletcher, late of St. Ann's-square, Manchester, now of the Temperance Coffee House, to Janet Farrell, widow of the late Mr. Boyles, of Kelso, near Bathurst. Wednesday 7 February 1844 - On Tuesday, the 6th of February, at the Parish Church of Hunter's Hill, by the Right Reverend the Lord Bishop of Australia, the Rev. William Francis Gore, Minister of Muswellbrook, to Elizabeth Carey, third daughter of the late Colonel Christopher Baldock, of the East India Company's Service. Thursday 8 February 1844 - Yesterday, by special license, at St. Philip's Church, Sydney, by the Rev. Dr. Cowper, John Tindale, Esq., of Penrith, to Tempest Jane, eldest daughter of Mr. George Paul, Sydney. Wednesday 14 February 1844 - At Bathurst, by Special License, on the 6th instant, by the Rev. Frederick R. Lewis, of Maitland, John, eldest son of W. Lane, Esq., of Orton Park, to Mary Rundle, eldest daughter of R. Lane, Esq., formerly of Basil Barton, Cornwall. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following births relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Friday 2 February 1844 - At Kanimbla, Vale of Clwyd, on the 27th January, Mrs. George Wilson, of a son. Tuesday 20 February 1844 - On Saturday, the 17th instant, at York Cottage, Windsor, the lady of Charles E. Langley, Esq., of a son. Tuesday 27 February 1844 - On the 24th instant, at Megalang, Vale of Clwyd, the lady of Dr. Hall Palmer, J.P., of a son. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following deaths relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Thursday 4 January 1844 - On Sunday last, December 31, at the Parsonage, Newcastle, Albinia Margaret Mackenzie, infant daughter of the Reverend C. Pleydell N. Wilton, M.A., aged one year and eighteen days. On the 1st January, 1844, at the Parsonage, Lower Hawkesbury, Frances Octavia, eighth daughter of the Rev. William West Simpson. Wednesday 31 January 1844 - On the 25th instant, at the residence of her father, Honeysuckle Flat, near Bathurst, Christina, third daughter of Mr. Thomas Boland, late of Sligo, Ireland, aged 16 years. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following births relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Thursday 4 January 1844 - On the 30th ultimo, at Toongabbee, the lady of Robert Dixon, Esq., of a daughter. Monday 15 January 1844 - At Castlereagh, on the 11th instant, Mrs. J. W. Fulton, of a daughter. Patricia

Hawkesbury Library has produced a historic calendar for 2010 to celebrate bicentenary of Lachlan Macquarie. For more info contact mnichols@hawkesbury.nsw.gov.au offline.

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following deaths relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Monday 11 December 1843 - On Tuesday evening last, aged ten weeks, Mary Anne, daughter of Mr. John Turner, solicitor, East Maitland. Thursday 14 December 1843 - At Newcastle, on the 29th November, aged 21 years, J. J. Armstrong, Esq., of the 99th Regiment. Monday 25 December 1843 - At her mother's residence, West Maitland, on the 21st instant, Marion, the wife of Mr. J. Williams, and daughter of R. Lockart, (after a lingering illness) ; much beloved by all who knew her, and deeply regretted by a numerous circle of friends-aged 23 years. At Dungog, on the 19th instant, after a long and painful illness, which he bore with Christian fortitude, Mr. William Jeffing, in the 74th year of his age. Friday 29 December 1843 - At Doonmore, Penrith, on the 27th instant, after a short illness, Henry John, the infant son of Henry W. Lugard, Esq., R. E., aged five months, and twelve days. Patricia

While gathering information to be indexed into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following births relating to the Hawkesbury List area in the Sydney Morning Herald. Monday 11 December 1843 - At Bathurst, on Thursday, the 7th instant, Mrs. Richard Machattie, of a son. Friday 29 December 1843 - At Roxburgh Cottage, Bathurst, on the 20th instant, the lady of the Rev. Thomas Sharpe, A. M., of a son. Saturday 30 December 1843 - At Bathurst, on Saturday last, the 23rd instant, Mrs. Mockett, of a Son. Patricia