Hi Chris, Are you interested in any particular cemetery, or all of them ? Cheers, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Shearer" <chriss@ihug.com.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] Location of Cemeteries > Hi Listers > > Would anyone have a list of the locations of any cemeteries > (no matter how small) in the Hills & Hawkesbury areas. > Thanks in advance > > Chris

Hi Listers Would anyone have a list of the locations of any cemeteries (no matter how small) in the Hills & Hawkesbury areas. Thanks in advance Chris

Wheelers were employed in 1941. The position lasted for quite a few years after WW2 until mechanisation of mines displaced them. Joe

Good afternoon I did find a marriage for a Percy P. BUSH to a Annie M. FLYNN at Scone, NSW. Index Year 1915, Ref No 1915/12368 Could this be the marriage that you never found????? Issues for Percy P. & Annie M. BUSH Births: Percy W. J. BUSH 1900/31881 Gunnedah, NSW Rosie M. BUSH 1902/3479 Gunnedah, NSW Agnes A. BUSH 1904/5144 Murrurundi, NSW Maud M. BUSH 1905/33777 Gunnedah, NSW Blanche K. BUSH 1908/16507 Narrabri, NSW Lenard P. BUSH 1909/37799 Narrabri, NSW Condrick M. BUSH 1911/46056 Narrabri, NSW Thomas P. BUSH 1913/46915 Boggabri, NSW Percy J. BUSH 1916/24216 Cessnock, NSW Susan E. BUSH 1918/18063 Greta, NSW One death for parents Percy P. & Annie M. BUSH Percy J. BUSH 1918/6087 Greta, NSW A death for a Annie M. BUSH 1931/681 Gunning, NSW with parents Charles M. & Mary A. Marriages for the issues above Percy W. J. BUSH to Evelyn D. SMITH Gunnedah, NSW 1921/12995 no marriages for a Rosie, but found two marriages for a Rose M. BUSH 1. Rose M. BUSH to Robert B. DUTHIE 1928/17297 Newcastle, NSW 1928/17297 2. Rose M. BUSH to Thomas M. HETHERINGTON Merewether, NSW 1924/725 Marriages for Agnes A. BUSH 1. Arthur A. HEWITT 1922/16288 Gunnedah, NSW 2. Arthur H. HEWITT 1922/10280 St. Leonards, NSW Marriages for Maud M. BUSH 1. Thomas J. CASTLES 1935/12215 Redfern, NSW Found a marriage for a Mary Maud BUSH to David Albert WATERS 1939/22935 Newcastle, NSW Marriage for Blanche K. BUSH Dudley G. SHORE 1928/16986 Glebe, NSW Marriage for Lenard P. BUSH no marriages Marriage for Condrick M. BUSH Found a Condrick Michael Jacob BUSH to Phyllis Kirk BROOKS 1937/1026 Wallsend, NSW Marriage for Thomas P. BUSH no marriages Marriage for Susan E. BUSH Found a Susan Elizabeth BUSH to Edward Albert McKillip DAVIES 1939/16898 Adamstown, NSW I hope you may find this interesting Regards Ann ---------- > From: Les Hewett, Napier, New Zealand <ljhewett@ihug.co.nz> > To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [H,H,HV] BUSH/SMITH/GUNNEDAH > Date: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:18

Hi again Carolyn, Am trying to catch up on my correspondence and filing re emails, as I have been busy away with quilting camps, and family history field days to Maitland. I notice in your email to Jan, that you mention the family of Richardson. My gg grandmother Bridget Sweeney/Freel/Raisbeck, had a daughter Esther Jane, who married Abaham Enoch Richardson. To date I don't have any information on this family. Do you think that there is a connection? Looking forward to hearing from you soon. ANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Fitzgerald <carolynf@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Maria Jane MEDHURST (Cafe, Merrick) - Obituary > Thank You Jan for this. > Yes, Colleen Peyton sent me the cert for Samuel Smith (I thought she would > also send it on to you) - but I do not have the one for Joseph, a copy would > be much appreciated. Mary Ann must have been quite old and still having > children. > > Last night I spent some time on the Richardson family, trying to work out > who married whom. They also are quite a large family, > I presume the John Richardson who married Lilly Irwin to be the son of Alice > and Thomas as they are buried in the same plot. > So that means the John Richadson that married Emilie Gould - must be the son > of Jane & Eli Richardson. Would this be correct? > > I have found two marriages for Emily (daughter of Eli & Jane) 1. William H > Gould 1905 or Arthur H Roach in 1906. > > Any ideas? Carolyn > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Glasby" <jan.glasby@hawkerc.act.edu.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:09 PM > Subject: [H,H,HV] Maria Jane MEDHURST (Cafe, Merrick) - Obituary > > > > Hi all, > > > > I came across this obituary for Maria Jane MEDHURST, formerly CAFE, nee > > MERRICK, when looking for something else. I know someone on the list was > > interested in these names. > > > > "Singleton Argus" Wednesday 3 December 1947 > > PASSING OF ONE OF DISTRICT'S OLDEST RESIDENTS > > One of Singleton district's oldest residents, in the person of Mrs Maria > > Jane Medhurst, of Putty, passed away at the residence of her son, Mr Amos > > Merrick, Victoria Street, during last night. The deceased had reached the > > grand old age of 93 years. A former Miss Wood, deceased was born at Howe's > > Valley, and as she has lived in the district all her life in and around > > Howe's Valley she has watched with keen interest the events which have > > taken place down through the years. In her earlier days, deceased was a > > noted horsewoman, and old hands claim that few equestriennes could ever > sit > > a horse side-saddle better than could the late Mrs Merrick. Deceased > > married twice, but both husbands predeceased her. Her first husband was > the > > late Mr Thomas Cafe, and there were three children from that union. She > > later married Mr Edward Wiliam Medhurst and there were four children from > > that union. Two children of the first family predeceased their mother. > > Deceased had come into Singleton to reside with her son only a fortnight > > ago. The remains will be privately interred at Putty tomorrow morning, > > following a service according to the rites of the Church of England. > > > > Cheers > > Jan > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Any lister with knowledge of John Smith, b.Tamworth 1862, and his brother James, b.1867. Sons of Abraham Ann Smith of Tamworth. Marriages not located in NSW records due to commonality of first names. Any assistance appreciated. Les and Gloria, Napier, NZ.

A little more on a newly-found Bush family. Percy W J Bush was a son of Percy P and Annie M, (their marriage not found in NSW records). Percy was b. Gunnedah 1900/31881; siblings: Rosie M. 1902/3479 Gun.; Agnes A, Murrurundi 1904/5144; Maud M 1905/33777 Gunnedah There is a death for a Percy at Gunnedah, 1942/1975, parents John and Susan. No marriage of this couple in NSW records; no Percy Bush in assisted passenger index 1880-96. Percy W J married Evelyn D. Smith, Gunnedah 1921. Any further assistance apreciated. Regards: Les H., Napier, NZ

Hi Joe, Many thanks for you answer - could this be a term used for someone in 1941? Glynis ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOE GREAVES" <joseph.g@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] what is a "wheeler out" and "wheeling out" > It's an old mining term from the days of manual coal mining. Loaded skips > were pulled by pit ponies to the cage to be hoisted to the surface in deep > mines. The wheeler led the horse on the journey from coal face and return. > > If miners wanted an excuse for a shift off they often complained that the > horse had bad breath and walked out. Mechanical mining and motorised > undreground transport replaced wheelers and pit ponies. > > Hope this answers your question. > > Joe > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

It's an old mining term from the days of manual coal mining. Loaded skips were pulled by pit ponies to the cage to be hoisted to the surface in deep mines. The wheeler led the horse on the journey from coal face and return. If miners wanted an excuse for a shift off they often complained that the horse had bad breath and walked out. Mechanical mining and motorised undreground transport replaced wheelers and pit ponies. Hope this answers your question. Joe

Hi All Fellow listers, I received my father's and his three brothers' WW2 war service dossiers yesterday. How beautifully presented they was. Reading through my father's I found his occupation listed as a "wheeler out" and "wheeling out" at the time of his enlistment. Could sks enlighten me on what a "wheeler out" and "wheeling out" did or does? Many thanks in advance, Glynis Wheeler Glynis R Wheeler ICQ: 125864276 sunchase@iprimus.com.au

Jenny, You are the first one to respond with positive comment! Sarah NEWELL and Robert Salkeld CARRUTHERS were my g.g.grandparents. Robert arrived in Adelaide in 1850 on board the British Empire. He married Sarah in 1851 in Adelaide and they had Robert James CARRUTHERS in 1851. They moved from Adelaide to Maitland in the Hunter Valley circa 1852 and John Salkeld CARRUTHERS was born in 1853 in Maitland. My g.grandfather, William George CARRUTHERS was born in Maitland in 1857. All of the information I have on Robert and Sarah came from the birth certificate of William George, Sarah was born in Newbliss, Monaghan, Ireland in 1822 and Robert was born in Carlisle, Cumberland in 1822. Their son, John Salkeld CARRUTHERS married Sarah WADE in Dungog, NSW in 1882. Sarah WADE was the daughter of William WADE and Sarah NEWELL from County CAVAN, Ireland. I cannot find any record of: a.. Sarah arriving in Australia but your Sarah Jane arriving in 1847 from Monaghan sound like a good starting point. b.. Robert and Sarah's wedding in 1851 c.. Robert James' birth d.. The family's travel from Adelaide to Maitland e.. Robert's death circa 1860 f.. Sarah''s death. I understand that Sarah fostered the children out when Robert died but have no record of it. It is anecdote so far. My theory is that both Sarah and Robert arrived in Adelaide because they had relations there and then moved to Maitland because they more relations there. I have contact with two ladies in NSW who are descendant from the NEWELL WADE connection and they have given me a lot of information about that line of the family but they don't have a link to my Sarah. Leading question!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What do you know about her????????????? I can rave for hours on this topic but it just frustrates me! Thank you for contacting me! Nay information you have will be most welcomed. Phillip Carruthers Brisbane, Queensland, AUSTRALIA Home Phone +617 3273 5531 Work Phone +617 3221 9277 Work Fax +617 3229 5475 Mobile 0411 643 427 Home e-mail pcarruth@bigpond.net.au Work e-mail p.carruthers@ndy.com

To all on the list, Please ignore this previous email - it is a HOAX (sorry Noel), so please don't go deleting any files from your computer, cos you may need them ! (JDBGMGR.EXE is a standard Windows component). Viruses are bad enough - hoaxes even more so. Regards, Diane List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel Hodges" <nhodges@iprimus.com.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] VIRUS ALERT > Hi everyone, > I received this email and followed the instructions and found > two files with this virus so I am contacting everyone in my > address book and would ask that you follow the instructions > exactly as they are listed on the email sent to me below. > DO NOT OPEN THESE FILES. > Sorry about any inconvenience. > Noel Hodges

Hi everyone, I recieved this email and followed the instructions and found two files with this virus so I am contacting everyone in my address book and would ask that you follow the instructions exactly as they are listed on the email sent to me below. DO NOT OPEN THESE FILES. Sorry about any inconvenience. Noel Hodges I received this email this morning, don't know whether is is a hoax or not, better to be safe than sorry. wendy > >Subject: VIRUS!!! > >> > >> > >>Sorry to tell you this but everyone at our office picked up a virus which > >>has infected our address books. It is not being detected by Norton or > >>McAfee. It sits for 14 days before damaging the system. They tell us it > >>is sent automatically by the messenger and by the address book whether or > >>not you sent email to your contacts. Follow the instructions below to > >>eliminate. Sorry for the hassle. > >> > >>1. Go to start, Find or Search option > >>2. In the files/folder option, write the name jdbgmgr.exe > >>3. Be sure you search your C: drive > >>4. Click "find now" > >>5. the virus has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT > >>OPEN IT! > >>6. right click and delete it. It will then go to the Recycle Bin > >>7. Go to the Recycle Bin and delete it there as well > >>8. Just to be safe, repeat this process to make sure it is really gone. 2 > >>computers in our office won't delete it > >> > >>IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS, YOU MUST CONTACT ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK > >>SO THEY CAN ERADICATE IT IN THEIR OWN ADDRESS BOOKS, SORRY. > > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== Comments and suggestions about the list should be addressed to the Administrator at Mel@i12.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The GEORGE HOWELL & HANNAH HILL 200 year family reunion will be held on Sunday, 4th August, 2002 at The Richmond Club, cnr. East Market & Francis Sts. Richmond, NSW. George Howell arrived in 1802 on the ship Perseus and Hannah Hill arrived 1804 on the Experiment. Reunion is from 10.00am to 4.00pm. Lunch 12.00-2.00pm in Club Bistro, cost from $6.30. Children's and Seniors meals available. Only food purchased at the club to be eaten in Club. Children are welcome, but must be supervised within the Club. A visit will be made to view the grave of our ancestors in the cemetery at St. Peter's, Richmond. DESCENDANTS - Please bring your photos, paintings, prints, your family history writings, your camera and your questions. A photocopier, computer, printer and scanner will be available on site. Contact: Marion Gozzard Phone: 02 47212872 email <johngozzard@hotmail.com> Please let us know numbers attending by 14 July, 2002 - most important for catering! Shirley

A big thank you, To everyone who sent or posted replies to my question.................Ian.

A very nice summary Diane, keep up the good work W. Archbold Phd. ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] ASSISTED IMMIGRANTS? > Hi Ian, > > Haven't seen a reply to your questions, so hope this helps ... > > The idea of an Assisted Migration Scheme was first suggested by > Edward Gibbon Wakefield. His theory was that in order for a colony > to prosper, land, labour and capital was needed. Land in the Colony > was too easy to obtain (ie. free land grants) and there was too little > labour. Who would labour if they could easily obtain land ? and who > would invest if they could not get labour ? > Wakefield's solution was simple. Crown Land should be sold and the > revenue used to assist poorer migrants to come out from the mother > country as labourers. The theory was that the sale of land would also > slow down pastoralism and encourage more farming. From 1831, > Crown Land was sold at auction at a minimum price of 5s per acre > (which was later increased to a minimum price at auction of 12s per > acre in 1839 and £1 in 1842). > > >From 1832, assisted passages were given to mechanics, agricultural > labourers and domestic servants, and in particular to young married > couples who would work hard to provide security for their children. > A Committee in London examined and chose new settlers and sent > them out on chartered ships. Local authorities in Britain attracted > applicants by advertising in papers and on posters, such as : > > "New South Wales - Government Emigration to Sydney " > Passages in ships of the highest class are granted by the Agent > General for New South Wales to eligible applicants, such as Farmers > and other Labourers, suitable classes of Mechanics and Female > Domestic Servants, at the following Rates, inclusive of Bedding and > Mess Utensils :- > Married Couples, not exceeding 40 years of age : £6 each couple. > Children of 3, and under 14 years of age : £1 each, > Single Men : £4 each. > Female Domestic Servants (who may obtain high wages, and for > whom there is a great demand in the Colony) : £2 each. > Land in New South Wales may be aquired on very favourable terms. > > Married couples received £30 with additional amounts for up to three > children. This covered most of the fares, but conditions on migrant ships > were not always good. There were reports of cramped quarters, poor > quality food, disease, death, immorality and cruelty. Typical food on > board included salt beef, flour, peas, tea, sugar, rice, etc. In the Colony, > the settlers went to an Immigration Barracks where they waited for > someone to hire them. The passage money was advanced to emigrants > by the Government and was supposed to be paid back out of their wages > but many refused to do so, so the Government converted the loan into > a Free Bounty. > > Bounty Scheme : > In 1835 Gov. Bourke introduced a Bounty Scheme, following settler's > complaints about the poor types of immigrants. They accused local > authorities in Britain of getting rid of the undesirables. The new system > encouraged landowners and businessmen to sponsor labourers. > Settlers in N.S.W. were allowed to recruit their own workers in the U.K. > and most employed agents to do so. The Government also had an > Agent General in London and in other embarkation ports. > The sponsor paid the fares and, if all conditions were met, they received > a bounty from the immigration fund when the employees arrived. > These were : > £30 towards the fares of married adults under 30 years (£38 in 1840), > £5 for each child, > £15 for unmarried females between 15 and 30 travelling with a family, > £10 for single males, as long as the sponsor brought out an equal > number of females. > > Settlers claimed that this was more efficient and cheaper than the > Government system, yet the assistance was similar. However, the > conditions on the ships were no better and no barracks were provided > in the Colony. > In 1840 the Bounty Scheme was becoming popular. Conscious of > NSW's need for labour, the Governor had freely issued bounty permits > but like many others was caught by the economic slump of the early > 1840's. Outstanding bounties far exceeded the revenue from Crown > Land sales, which continued to decline - £324,000 in 1840 to £18,000 > in 1842. The Bounty Scheme was abandoned after 1847 because of > the risk of corrupt shipowners and contractors increasing profits by > providing inadequate food and cabin space. Some twenty six emigrant > ships failed to arrive in Australia and over 2,500 people drowned. > There were several faults in the Bounty Scheme, including settlers > complaints that not all migrants knew the trade they claimed, not many > settlers had the money to pay the Agents in the U.K. to act for them and > the system soon fell into the hands of the ship owners and/or speculators, > there were not many checks on the the system and agents in the U.K. > often created false impressions of life in NSW. > > The "peak" years of Assisted Immigration to NSW and the Countries > of Origin were : > > 1839 : England & Wales - 3,614; Scotland - 1,925; > Ireland - 2,876; Others - 1; Unassisted - 2,133 > > 1841 : England & Wales - 4,735; Scotland - 1,664; > Ireland - 13,704; Others - Nil; Unassisted - 2,380 > > 1849 : England & Wales - 9,859; Scotland - 2,146 > Ireland - 3,634; Others - 404; Unassisted - 3,297 > > > [Source : Australia in the Making] > > > > Diane > (apologies for the length :) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Nicholls" <inicholls@bigpond.com> > Subject: [H,H,HV] ASSISTED IMMIGRANTS? > > > > Hi Listers, > > How did the assisted immigrant schemes work in the 1830's. > > Was the full fare paid by the scheme? Did the immigrants have > > to repay the money after arrival? Or, were they bonded in some way? > > How much did it cost to travel from London to Sydney by steerage > > in the 1830's? Did you have to supply your own food for the voyage? > > Thank you......Ian. > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Ian, Haven't seen a reply to your questions, so hope this helps ... The idea of an Assisted Migration Scheme was first suggested by Edward Gibbon Wakefield. His theory was that in order for a colony to prosper, land, labour and capital was needed. Land in the Colony was too easy to obtain (ie. free land grants) and there was too little labour. Who would labour if they could easily obtain land ? and who would invest if they could not get labour ? Wakefield's solution was simple. Crown Land should be sold and the revenue used to assist poorer migrants to come out from the mother country as labourers. The theory was that the sale of land would also slow down pastoralism and encourage more farming. From 1831, Crown Land was sold at auction at a minimum price of 5s per acre (which was later increased to a minimum price at auction of 12s per acre in 1839 and £1 in 1842). From 1832, assisted passages were given to mechanics, agricultural labourers and domestic servants, and in particular to young married couples who would work hard to provide security for their children. A Committee in London examined and chose new settlers and sent them out on chartered ships. Local authorities in Britain attracted applicants by advertising in papers and on posters, such as : "New South Wales - Government Emigration to Sydney " Passages in ships of the highest class are granted by the Agent General for New South Wales to eligible applicants, such as Farmers and other Labourers, suitable classes of Mechanics and Female Domestic Servants, at the following Rates, inclusive of Bedding and Mess Utensils :- Married Couples, not exceeding 40 years of age : £6 each couple. Children of 3, and under 14 years of age : £1 each, Single Men : £4 each. Female Domestic Servants (who may obtain high wages, and for whom there is a great demand in the Colony) : £2 each. Land in New South Wales may be aquired on very favourable terms. Married couples received £30 with additional amounts for up to three children. This covered most of the fares, but conditions on migrant ships were not always good. There were reports of cramped quarters, poor quality food, disease, death, immorality and cruelty. Typical food on board included salt beef, flour, peas, tea, sugar, rice, etc. In the Colony, the settlers went to an Immigration Barracks where they waited for someone to hire them. The passage money was advanced to emigrants by the Government and was supposed to be paid back out of their wages but many refused to do so, so the Government converted the loan into a Free Bounty. Bounty Scheme : In 1835 Gov. Bourke introduced a Bounty Scheme, following settler's complaints about the poor types of immigrants. They accused local authorities in Britain of getting rid of the undesirables. The new system encouraged landowners and businessmen to sponsor labourers. Settlers in N.S.W. were allowed to recruit their own workers in the U.K. and most employed agents to do so. The Government also had an Agent General in London and in other embarkation ports. The sponsor paid the fares and, if all conditions were met, they received a bounty from the immigration fund when the employees arrived. These were : £30 towards the fares of married adults under 30 years (£38 in 1840), £5 for each child, £15 for unmarried females between 15 and 30 travelling with a family, £10 for single males, as long as the sponsor brought out an equal number of females. Settlers claimed that this was more efficient and cheaper than the Government system, yet the assistance was similar. However, the conditions on the ships were no better and no barracks were provided in the Colony. In 1840 the Bounty Scheme was becoming popular. Conscious of NSW's need for labour, the Governor had freely issued bounty permits but like many others was caught by the economic slump of the early 1840's. Outstanding bounties far exceeded the revenue from Crown Land sales, which continued to decline - £324,000 in 1840 to £18,000 in 1842. The Bounty Scheme was abandoned after 1847 because of the risk of corrupt shipowners and contractors increasing profits by providing inadequate food and cabin space. Some twenty six emigrant ships failed to arrive in Australia and over 2,500 people drowned. There were several faults in the Bounty Scheme, including settlers complaints that not all migrants knew the trade they claimed, not many settlers had the money to pay the Agents in the U.K. to act for them and the system soon fell into the hands of the ship owners and/or speculators, there were not many checks on the the system and agents in the U.K. often created false impressions of life in NSW. The "peak" years of Assisted Immigration to NSW and the Countries of Origin were : 1839 : England & Wales - 3,614; Scotland - 1,925; Ireland - 2,876; Others - 1; Unassisted - 2,133 1841 : England & Wales - 4,735; Scotland - 1,664; Ireland - 13,704; Others - Nil; Unassisted - 2,380 1849 : England & Wales - 9,859; Scotland - 2,146 Ireland - 3,634; Others - 404; Unassisted - 3,297 [Source : Australia in the Making] Diane (apologies for the length :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Nicholls" <inicholls@bigpond.com> Subject: [H,H,HV] ASSISTED IMMIGRANTS? > Hi Listers, > How did the assisted immigrant schemes work in the 1830's. > Was the full fare paid by the scheme? Did the immigrants have > to repay the money after arrival? Or, were they bonded in some way? > How much did it cost to travel from London to Sydney by steerage > in the 1830's? Did you have to supply your own food for the voyage? > Thank you......Ian.

Philip, If they came out pre 1826 (free or not) chances are they would be listed in the 1828 census (with ship name) but I don't think many of the free settlers are listed in any detail - if at all - on the shipping records in this time. Alison :) Sydney Oz > Are there any indexes or easy way to find out shipping > details for passengers who came out free pre 1826? Most references are for > convicts. >

Hi Ian, The immigrants from 1828 to 1842 are indexed under the heading of "bounty immigrants" (rather than the term "assisted immigrants" which seems to be used for those arriving after 1842). The indexes are on film at State Records, State Library, and many other research centres (such as genealogical societies, some municipal libraries and LDS centres). Alison :) Sydney Oz

Hi Listers Are there any indexes or easy way to find out shipping details for passengers who came out free pre 1826? Most references are for convicts. Cheers,Philip