Sent to me, instead of the list ... ----- Original Message ----- From: <phyllisf@ozemail.com.au> Subject: Cattai Is anyone researching the JONES family from the Cattai Pitt Town area John Jones married Mary Ann Fuller 1840 Children Robert married Selina Gough John Married Charlotte Stubbs Ann married Henry Strange David Married Sarah Weaver George married Josephine Bowd Sarah married William Roberts Elizabeth marriedJohn Kulucy Jane Henry Childs Adeline married Smith Would like to hear from anyone reseaching these people Also Neich , clark , from same area Regards PHYLLIS phyllisf@ozemail.com.au

Hi all, If anyone would like a look-up, I have the following : * Galston and Arcadia - Memories of Value [L.B. Geelan] * A Century of Achievement, Arcadia Public School, 1894-1994 [Centenary Committee] * Our Treasure Trove - Annangrove, 1895-1995 [June Roughley] I spent some of my primary school years at Arcadia Public School :) Diane

Evening everyone, Seeing as things are a little 'quiet', I thought it may be a good time to have a type of roll call; and as we have had a number of new people subscribe to the list over the past few weeks, they may also like to take this opportunity to participate by introducing themselves and any of their family/local history research interests. I'd like to propose that we have a "Place Name" roll call for the areas covered by this list. By doing one this way, in addition to listing your family names by specific areas, subscribers could also post any 'local' history interests and/or queries that they may have as well. Perhaps there may be a particular property - church - school - pub - cemetery - business/industry - book - re-union - etc. etc. that you are interested in or haven't quite got around to asking (or reminding) others about yet ! Or perhaps it may just jog your memory about ... So we don't get a whole lot of emails at once, if we start with place names A-B-C (listed below), and depending on the interest (or lack of), I'll post the lists of different placenames every few days or so. Just have to see how it goes ? I guess. *** If I happen to miss any placenames, then by all means feel free to jump right on in when your particular placename letter/s comes up *** (and accept my apologies for the oversight). The following format may be helpful : Placename : Given & Surname/s : Date/s : (most important) Other Comments : as detailed as you like and for any local history topics and/or queries, anything goes really ! So, for starters, here's some placenames to get the ball rolling - HILLS DISTRICT : Annangrove, Arcadia, Baulkham Hills, Berrilee, Calabash, Castle Hill, Canoelands, Colah, Crosslands HAWKESBURY : (I can't think of any A's ?), Box Hill (bordering on), Blaxlands Ridge, Cattai, Clarendon, Colo, Cliftonville, Cornwallis HUNTER VALLEY : Aberglassyn, Abermain, Aberdare, Aberdeen, Adamstown, Allynbrook, Anvil Creek, Ash Island, Alderley, Ananbah, Bolwarra, Bellbird, Belltrees, Belford, Beresfield, Black Creek (Branxton), Booral, Broke, Brunkerville, Bishops Bridge, Black Hill, Cessnock, Clarencetown, Campbell's Hill, Carrington AND .... out of courtesy to ALL subscribers, "please remember" to <snip> (delete) any unneccesary portions from previous attached emails, so any replies do not get too long (and repetitive). Replies are currently sent back to the list by default - so just use your "Reply" button, or if you want to correspond with someone in private then just change the HHHV address in the "To" header prior to sending. If anyone has any books/resources on the various placenames, and would be willing to do some look-ups for others, then perhaps these could be listed as well (but that's optional). Hopefully everyone will get involved ... so now it's over to you folks :) Best of luck and good hunting ! Regards, Diane (H,H,HV List Moderator)

Hi Liz, There has recently been a thread about this family (i.e., Eleanor and Ormsby Irwin) on the Tas list. I understand Eleanor's maiden name was Connor and she was sometimes known as Honor Connor, or Eleanor or Ellen. Eleanor and Ormsby Irwin arrived per "Boyd" 1809 - apparently married. He was a lifer and she came free. He was tried in Cork. NSW BDM shows they had 2 chn. William and Catherine (who was b 1812). don't know why but Ormsby and Eleanor split up. Eleanor remained in NSW and married Richard Sculthorpe (seen in the various NSW musters, BDM records, etc). Ormsby and the two children, William and Catherine, turned up in Tasmania, at least by 1819. Haven't a clue when Ormsby died. Don't know what happened to William. Catherine married William Bellett and they had several children - some of whose descendants returned to Vic and NSW. I have a very limited amount of information on this line as it is really only a remote twig on my husband's tree. Alison :) Sydney Oz

Hi Everyone from Sunny Queensland! Just thought I would introduce the Hulins to the group! Our names are Brett and Liz Hulin, reside in Toowoomba, Queensland and are following the exploits of the Skuthorpe/Skulthorp line (Richard, b1793 Cambridge, a 1814 Gen Hewitt, m Honor/Ellen/Eleanor Connor who arrived in Aust as the wife of Ormsby Irwinn, Convict on the Boyd in 1809. Eleanor had a somewhat interesting life.. as it would appear that she may have had 2 children with Ormsby Irwinn (who I cant find hide nor hair of apart from Lesley's website!), before committing some sort of offence in Sydney and ending up in Parramatta Jail sometime between 1809 and 1818 (marriage to R Skuthorpe - Richmond) I understand that was prior to the Female Factory being in existence? Scuttlebut also suggests that she kept company with a William Broady and may have also had one child with him. Brett and I have just returned from 2 wks hols mainly Sydney and we also spent 2 days in the Richmond/Windsor area and checked Cemetery records.. We now have some great info, photos etc to pass onto our few remaining elderly relatives, so anything that would enlighten us as to Eleanors nefarious past would certainly enliven the video/photo session we plan to have!! Thank you for any assistance - bear with us newbies on this! Regards Liz Hulin

Dear John, If you do not get a taker on the list I am sure that the family history group for the area in question would take them into their care. I am also sure that the Society of Australian Genealogists in Kent Street SYDNEY would welcome them with open arms and at some time a researcher may get the benefit of using their contents. Sincerely, Bill John Tainsh wrote: > Hello All, > Over a period I have accumulated a number of NSW BD&M Certificates which turned

Hi all, I am interested to learn more of the Downey family. James Downey married my ggg grand aunt, Eleanor Mary Fishburn in 1839 at St John's Church, Parramatta NSW. Ellen was born 1820 at Windsor NSW to William Fishburn and Catherine Ash. James does not appear on the 1828 Census suggesting he may have arrived after that date. There are 3 convicts of the same name who arrived 1829-1832 but no associated permissions to marry. Of course, James may have come free. I apologise for the multiple posting. Regards, Russell Orchard .

Hi John If you still have it, I would appreciate a copy of the Jane Watts death 27/5/1922. Thank you for your kind thoughts. Regards June ----- Original Message ----- From: John Tainsh <jjtainsh@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Spare NSW BD&M Certificates > Hello All, > Over a period I have accumulated a number of NSW BD&M Certificates which turned out to be of no value to me. If anyone else is interested please contact me and I will be happy to send the certificate, or an image of it in the first place. > Please excuse cross posting as they might be of interest on a variety of lists. > > Baptism > Mary Elizabeth McARTHUR b10/5/1849 Parish of Maitland Parents Alexander & Mary McARTHUR > > Marriage > George WATT (b Warkworth)& Jane Elizabeth DUFF (b Jerry's Plains) 4/2/1867 at Jerry's Plains Grooms parents William WATTS & Ann O'BRIEN Brides parents Peter DUFF & Sarah HOBSON. > > Deaths > Jane WATTS 27/5/1922 at New Lambton Age 67. Father James BRIDGE Mother Unknown. Buried Sandgate Cemetery. Born Wollombi Married at Wollombi to Henry WATTS. > > Jane DAVIES 4/8/1903 at Deniliquin Age 22. Father James BARR Mother Jane FITZMAURICE Born Deniliquin Married at Deniliquin to John DAVIES One son John G B age 2 days. > > Frances ROBINSON 12/11/1904 at Lewisham Hospital Age 24 Father John DANAHEY? Mother Ellen O'MEALEY? Born Launceston Married to Harold ROBINSON at Zeehan > > Fanny ROBINSON 9/9/1909 at Petersham Age 91 Father John CLAYTON Mother Fanny LUCAS Born Woburn Bedfordshire Eng (6 yr. Vic, 20 yr. Tas 26 yr. NSW) Married at Woburn to William Charles Robinson Issue William J (60) Ada (45) 2 m & 1 f deceased. > > John Tainsh > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello All, Over a period I have accumulated a number of NSW BD&M Certificates which turned out to be of no value to me. If anyone else is interested please contact me and I will be happy to send the certificate, or an image of it in the first place. Please excuse cross posting as they might be of interest on a variety of lists. Baptism Mary Elizabeth McARTHUR b10/5/1849 Parish of Maitland Parents Alexander & Mary McARTHUR Marriage George WATT (b Warkworth)& Jane Elizabeth DUFF (b Jerry's Plains) 4/2/1867 at Jerry's Plains Grooms parents William WATTS & Ann O'BRIEN Brides parents Peter DUFF & Sarah HOBSON. Deaths Jane WATTS 27/5/1922 at New Lambton Age 67. Father James BRIDGE Mother Unknown. Buried Sandgate Cemetery. Born Wollombi Married at Wollombi to Henry WATTS. Jane DAVIES 4/8/1903 at Deniliquin Age 22. Father James BARR Mother Jane FITZMAURICE Born Deniliquin Married at Deniliquin to John DAVIES One son John G B age 2 days. Frances ROBINSON 12/11/1904 at Lewisham Hospital Age 24 Father John DANAHEY? Mother Ellen O'MEALEY? Born Launceston Married to Harold ROBINSON at Zeehan Fanny ROBINSON 9/9/1909 at Petersham Age 91 Father John CLAYTON Mother Fanny LUCAS Born Woburn Bedfordshire Eng (6 yr. Vic, 20 yr. Tas 26 yr. NSW) Married at Woburn to William Charles Robinson Issue William J (60) Ada (45) 2 m & 1 f deceased. John Tainsh

Hi This is a repost to the list. I have been researching the families of Joseph DAVIS & Mary Ann ROGERS, for several years now. I would be interested in any families that are connect to Joseph & Mary. My web page address is below, which has all the names that I am researching in it. Any help would be greatly appreciated Regards Keith Skinner My web page - Joseph Davis / Mary Rogers and their descendants http://members.ozemail.com.au/~kskinner/PAGE2.HTM

Hi Bill, Google is a web-search-engine ... http://www.google.com/ Cheers, Diane ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search A suggestion > Hi Ray, Pardon my ignorance, but what is a google search? > > Bill

Hello Ron Have had a most promising reply re our mystery man and I think we have found him. A long and interesting story. We will have to follow up this lead below, as very likely there is a definite conection. Thanks Lorna > From: "RON HARPER" <reprahnor@optushome.com.au> > Reply-To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:31:56 +1000 > To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search > Resent-From: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:30:21 -0600 > > Lorna, Sorry to add to your mystery, but this Leslie Mordant (sic) Gunn who > died in Redfern was the child of Christopher and Miney. I searched for a > death of Christopher Gunn, without luck. > > Given your man's record it would seem highly likely that he deserted yet > another wife. > > There is not one death of a "Miney" recorded in NSW up to 1945. > > Remember, all of these searches cut off at 1945. > > Sorry I cannot help more. Maybe he went to the War! Maybe he went back to > Scotland! > > RON > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Heal > To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search > > > Mordant and Miney appear to have had one child in 1893, and no more. > > Leslie M B Gunn, birth 3763 of 1893. > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Ray, Pardon my ignorance, but what is a google search? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hawkins" <ray15@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search A suggestion > Hello Lorna. > Have you tried searching the NSW Birth Death and Marriages indexes on-line > under each of those possible surnames? It is a long-winded process, as they > only permit a 10-year search at a time; but if you persevere you never know > what you might find. > (Sorry, I don't have the URL handy -- try a google search and you should get > it quickly). > Good Luck: ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lorna Clauson" <lornaclauson@mac.com> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:34 PM > Subject: [H,H,HV] family search > > > > Hello everyone, > > I'm Lorna Clauson, (retired Commerce Teacher) NZ, but half Australian as > > my dad was born in Dubbo. (Hope that helps!) I'm trying to find the man > > who married my grandmother in NZ in 1878 - I'm descended from her second > > marriage. Their marriage certificate gives his place of birth as > > Edinburgh, and at age 25 would have been born c1853. No birth > certificate > > has been found. Not long after their daughter was born he deserted wife > > and child and went to Australia, never to be seen or heard of again. No > > trace of his name has been found on shipping records so he probably > > travelled under an assumed name. However we recently discovered the > > following. > > > > He seems to have used any of the following names: Henry Mordaunt Cramond, > > Mordaunt Cramond Gunn, or Mordaunt Cramond Booth Gunn. According to a > > marriage certificate from NSW a person of the latter name married Miney > > Booth in Newcastle in May 1881. Booth-Gunn's occupation was listed as > > "surgeon" on this Marriage Cert. > > > > I should be most grateful for any information on this person as none of > his > > family in NZ can find any trace of him. Thanks a lot. > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Ron Very many thanks for your prompt reply. I've received quite a few clues and possibilities on this guy. He sure is a headache!! I will have to print it all out, in some sort of sequence, and study it carefully. However I did receive a reply from another subscriber who is definitely a 'cousin' as he had all the information of his descent from Henry Mordaunt Cramond Booth Gunn (or whoever he is!) and I am hoping he can help me unravel some of it. This web is certainly full of surprises. I am a total new chum and find it all quite intimidating; no doubt my confidence will improve with practice. Again my grateful thanks. Lorna > From: "RON HARPER" <reprahnor@optushome.com.au> > Reply-To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:31:56 +1000 > To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search > Resent-From: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:30:21 -0600 > > Lorna, Sorry to add to your mystery, but this Leslie Mordant (sic) Gunn who > died in Redfern was the child of Christopher and Miney. I searched for a > death of Christopher Gunn, without luck. > > Given your man's record it would seem highly likely that he deserted yet > another wife. > > There is not one death of a "Miney" recorded in NSW up to 1945. > > Remember, all of these searches cut off at 1945. > > Sorry I cannot help more. Maybe he went to the War! Maybe he went back to > Scotland! > > RON > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Heal > To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search > > > Mordant and Miney appear to have had one child in 1893, and no more. > > Leslie M B Gunn, birth 3763 of 1893. > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Lorna, Sorry to add to your mystery, but this Leslie Mordant (sic) Gunn who died in Redfern was the child of Christopher and Miney. I searched for a death of Christopher Gunn, without luck. Given your man's record it would seem highly likely that he deserted yet another wife. There is not one death of a "Miney" recorded in NSW up to 1945. Remember, all of these searches cut off at 1945. Sorry I cannot help more. Maybe he went to the War! Maybe he went back to Scotland! RON ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Heal To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search Mordant and Miney appear to have had one child in 1893, and no more. Leslie M B Gunn, birth 3763 of 1893.

Many thanks. Will follow this up. > From: "Ray Hawkins" <ray15@optusnet.com.au> > Reply-To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:45:14 +1000 > To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search A suggestion > Resent-From: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 05:45:17 -0600 > > Hello Lorna. > Have you tried searching the NSW Birth Death and Marriages indexes on-line > under each of those possible surnames? It is a long-winded process, as they > only permit a 10-year search at a time; but if you persevere you never know > what you might find. > (Sorry, I don't have the URL handy -- try a google search and you should get > it quickly). > Good Luck: ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lorna Clauson" <lornaclauson@mac.com> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:34 PM > Subject: [H,H,HV] family search > > >> Hello everyone, >> I'm Lorna Clauson, (retired Commerce Teacher) NZ, but half Australian as >> my dad was born in Dubbo. (Hope that helps!) I'm trying to find the man >> who married my grandmother in NZ in 1878 - I'm descended from her second >> marriage. Their marriage certificate gives his place of birth as >> Edinburgh, and at age 25 would have been born c1853. No birth > certificate >> has been found. Not long after their daughter was born he deserted wife >> and child and went to Australia, never to be seen or heard of again. No >> trace of his name has been found on shipping records so he probably >> travelled under an assumed name. However we recently discovered the >> following. >> >> He seems to have used any of the following names: Henry Mordaunt Cramond, >> Mordaunt Cramond Gunn, or Mordaunt Cramond Booth Gunn. According to a >> marriage certificate from NSW a person of the latter name married Miney >> Booth in Newcastle in May 1881. Booth-Gunn's occupation was listed as >> "surgeon" on this Marriage Cert. >> >> I should be most grateful for any information on this person as none of > his >> family in NZ can find any trace of him. Thanks a lot. >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Lorna, The Births Deaths and Marriages search is http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/ Cheers Isabelle -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hawkins [mailto:ray15@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 9:45 PM To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search A suggestion Hello Lorna. Have you tried searching the NSW Birth Death and Marriages indexes on-line under each of those possible surnames? It is a long-winded process, as they only permit a 10-year search at a time; but if you persevere you never know what you might find. (Sorry, I don't have the URL handy -- try a google search and you should get it quickly). Good Luck: ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorna Clauson" <lornaclauson@mac.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:34 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] family search > Hello everyone, > I'm Lorna Clauson, (retired Commerce Teacher) NZ, but half Australian as > my dad was born in Dubbo. (Hope that helps!) I'm trying to find the man > who married my grandmother in NZ in 1878 - I'm descended from her second > marriage. Their marriage certificate gives his place of birth as > Edinburgh, and at age 25 would have been born c1853. No birth certificate > has been found. Not long after their daughter was born he deserted wife > and child and went to Australia, never to be seen or heard of again. No > trace of his name has been found on shipping records so he probably > travelled under an assumed name. However we recently discovered the > following. > > He seems to have used any of the following names: Henry Mordaunt Cramond, > Mordaunt Cramond Gunn, or Mordaunt Cramond Booth Gunn. According to a > marriage certificate from NSW a person of the latter name married Miney > Booth in Newcastle in May 1881. Booth-Gunn's occupation was listed as > "surgeon" on this Marriage Cert. > > I should be most grateful for any information on this person as none of his > family in NZ can find any trace of him. Thanks a lot. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Listers, Does anyone know anything about Joseph Suffolk who lived in George St., Windsor, c.1841? He is in the 1841 census. He probably arrived as a free settler on the ship,"Richard Reynolds" in 1836. Would like to know where he came from in England and any other details known..........Regards...Ian.

Mordant and Miney appear to have had one child in 1893, and no more. Leslie M B Gunn, birth 3763 of 1893. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorna Clauson" <lornaclauson@mac.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:34 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] family search > Hello everyone, > I'm Lorna Clauson, (retired Commerce Teacher) NZ, but half Australian as > my dad was born in Dubbo. (Hope that helps!) I'm trying to find the man > who married my grandmother in NZ in 1878 - I'm descended from her second > marriage. Their marriage certificate gives his place of birth as > Edinburgh, and at age 25 would have been born c1853. No birth certificate > has been found. Not long after their daughter was born he deserted wife > and child and went to Australia, never to be seen or heard of again. No > trace of his name has been found on shipping records so he probably > travelled under an assumed name. However we recently discovered the > following. > > He seems to have used any of the following names: Henry Mordaunt Cramond, > Mordaunt Cramond Gunn, or Mordaunt Cramond Booth Gunn. According to a > marriage certificate from NSW a person of the latter name married Miney > Booth in Newcastle in May 1881. Booth-Gunn's occupation was listed as > "surgeon" on this Marriage Cert. > > I should be most grateful for any information on this person as none of his > family in NZ can find any trace of him. Thanks a lot. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Lorna. Have you tried searching the NSW Birth Death and Marriages indexes on-line under each of those possible surnames? It is a long-winded process, as they only permit a 10-year search at a time; but if you persevere you never know what you might find. (Sorry, I don't have the URL handy -- try a google search and you should get it quickly). Good Luck: ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorna Clauson" <lornaclauson@mac.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:34 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] family search > Hello everyone, > I'm Lorna Clauson, (retired Commerce Teacher) NZ, but half Australian as > my dad was born in Dubbo. (Hope that helps!) I'm trying to find the man > who married my grandmother in NZ in 1878 - I'm descended from her second > marriage. Their marriage certificate gives his place of birth as > Edinburgh, and at age 25 would have been born c1853. No birth certificate > has been found. Not long after their daughter was born he deserted wife > and child and went to Australia, never to be seen or heard of again. No > trace of his name has been found on shipping records so he probably > travelled under an assumed name. However we recently discovered the > following. > > He seems to have used any of the following names: Henry Mordaunt Cramond, > Mordaunt Cramond Gunn, or Mordaunt Cramond Booth Gunn. According to a > marriage certificate from NSW a person of the latter name married Miney > Booth in Newcastle in May 1881. Booth-Gunn's occupation was listed as > "surgeon" on this Marriage Cert. > > I should be most grateful for any information on this person as none of his > family in NZ can find any trace of him. Thanks a lot. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >