----- Original Message ----- From: "Madeleine Juchau" <ml.juchau@uws.edu.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb .com> Sent: 24 July 2002 10:53 Subject: [H,H,HV] Tracing Assistance > I have just joined this network and am researching the history of my > forebear, JAMES THOMAS JUCHAU, who came to Australia as a young convict > aged 15. > Hi Roger Check out http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts and see if anyone has claimed him Bye Marg Morters Beautiful Central Coast of NSW Australia

Or John had two wives one after the other. Or John had two wives at the same time. Or her name was Alice Susan Brennan ( called Susan ) and sometimes the registrar used her "first" name and sometimes he used the name she actually used. Not kidding, I have all of these in my family. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Donaldson" <mariedonaldson@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Gullam Gallum Gullum etc > Looking for John Gullum and wife Susanne Brennen (Brennan) who had Mary Jane at Windsor in 1861, Margaret born and died 1865, John b 1866 d 1868, William born 1868. Cannot find marriage, deaths or arrival details for the parents. . > Their daughter Mary Jane married Henry Kane in Sydney in 1881. This is the line I am following. > > I know there were a John and Alice Gullam also having children in the area at the same time. Perhaps the two John's were cousins or father and son? > > Any help appreciated. > Marie > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all, I have recorded direct line ancestors only, otherwise I would have hundreds. Placename: Hills District - Baulkham Hills 1. Bean, Ann - died 11 Mar 1854 - 4g grandmother 2. Harradine, Lenna - born 1906 - grandmother Placename: Hills District - Castle Hill 1. Ash, Catherine - died 14 Feb 1839 - 4g grandmother 2. James, Jemima - died 20 Aug 1938 - 2g grandmother 3. James, John - died 6 Jan 1897 - 3g grandfather Placename: Hawkesbury - Castlereagh 1. Ablett, Eliza - died 15 Nov 1878 - 2g grandmother 2. Ablett, John - died 29 Nov 1831 - 3g grandfather 3. Byrnes, David - died 25 Mar 1848 - 3g grandfather 4. Byrnes, James - born 4 Jan 1860 - g grandfather 5. Reffin, Ann - died 26 Jul 1839 - 3g grandmother 6. Roberts, Ann - died 12 Aug 1832 - 3g grandmother Placename: Hunter Valley - Broke 1. Porter, Joseph - born 23 Nov 1839 - 2g grandfather Regards, Russell Orchard

Hi all, I forgot to include the following in the Hawkesbury A-B-C 's : Agnes Banks (there was an A after all), Bilpin, Berambing, Bowen Mountain and Castlereagh. My thanks to a fellow lister :) for the timely reminder. Diane

Not sure about that Betty ... but I do recall one of John NEICH's descendants mentioning an Emanuel NEICH, but I don't know whether he had confirmed any connections, or not. Perhaps Phyllis may be able to help you further on that one. Cheers, Diane ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Place Names : Cattai > Are the NEICH people of whom you speak descended from > Augustus Neich and Jane Roberts". Augustus was the son of > Emanuel of the "Bath Arms" of Burwood. > Regards > Betty Candy

Are the NEICH people of whom you speak descended from Augustus Neich and Jane Roberts". Augustus was the son of Emanuel of the "Bath Arms" of Burwood. ----------------------------------------------- Regards Betty Candy Sydney, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 22 July 2002 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Place Names : Cattai > > Hi Phyllis, > > I'm not sure if you already have this, but there was a John NEICH, > who married Sarah CLARK, in 1890 (Windsor) - both are buried > at St. James Cemetery, Pitt Town, along with other family members. > I'd say they'd be related to your lot, as John NEICH took up an 80 acre > grant along the Cattai Ridge in 1888. There is also a Neich Road at both > Maraylya and Hillside (Cattai Ridge). Also, I remember mention of Bill > "Clicker" CLARK who was related to the NEICH's in some way. > > I don't have any family connections, but did do some some historical > work for the local school some years back - John and Sarah and > their descendants had a long association with the school and local > community. (Some of the family were timbergetters). > I'm not sure where you are ?, but I know of two NEICH descendants > who live at Windsor/Richmond and the Central Coast. > Let me know "off list" if you would like their contact details. > > > Regards, > Diane > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Subject: Cattai > > > Is anyone researching the JONES family from the Cattai Pitt Town area > > John Jones married Mary Ann Fuller 1840 > > Children > > Robert married Selina Gough > > John Married Charlotte Stubbs > > Ann married Henry Strange > > David Married Sarah Weaver > > George married Josephine Bowd > > Sarah married William Roberts > > Elizabeth marriedJohn Kulucy > > Jane Henry Childs > > Adeline married Smith > > Would like to hear from anyone reseaching these people > > Also Neich , clark , from same area > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Looking for John Gullum and wife Susanne Brennen (Brennan) who had Mary Jane at Windsor in 1861, Margaret born and died 1865, John b 1866 d 1868, William born 1868. Cannot find marriage, deaths or arrival details for the parents. . Their daughter Mary Jane married Henry Kane in Sydney in 1881. This is the line I am following. I know there were a John and Alice Gullam also having children in the area at the same time. Perhaps the two John's were cousins or father and son? Any help appreciated. Marie

Hi John, I see you have a FRANCES ROBINSON who was born in Tasmania. Do you have any other ROBINSON of Tasmania conections? My gggrandmother was a MINNA LOUISA ROBINSON born about 1862 probably in England, her parents were noted on her death certificate as DR JOHN ROBINSON and a ? MOORE, she married a JOHN VICARY HARRISON in Longford Tasmania on 13 March 1878. She died at Barmedman near Temora NSW on 27 August 1929. Any help would be gladly received as this is all I know about her. I don't know when she arrived in Tasmania. Kay Palmer ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tainsh" <jjtainsh@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Spare NSW BD&M Certificates > Hello All, > Over a period I have accumulated a number of NSW BD&M Certificates which turned out to be of no value to me. If anyone else is interested please contact me and I will be happy to send the certificate, or an image of it in the first place. > Please excuse cross posting as they might be of interest on a variety of lists. > > Baptism > Mary Elizabeth McARTHUR b10/5/1849 Parish of Maitland Parents Alexander & Mary McARTHUR > > Marriage > George WATT (b Warkworth)& Jane Elizabeth DUFF (b Jerry's Plains) 4/2/1867 at Jerry's Plains Grooms parents William WATTS & Ann O'BRIEN Brides parents Peter DUFF & Sarah HOBSON. > > Deaths > Jane WATTS 27/5/1922 at New Lambton Age 67. Father James BRIDGE Mother Unknown. Buried Sandgate Cemetery. Born Wollombi Married at Wollombi to Henry WATTS. > > Jane DAVIES 4/8/1903 at Deniliquin Age 22. Father James BARR Mother Jane FITZMAURICE Born Deniliquin Married at Deniliquin to John DAVIES One son John G B age 2 days. > > Frances ROBINSON 12/11/1904 at Lewisham Hospital Age 24 Father John DANAHEY? Mother Ellen O'MEALEY? Born Launceston Married to Harold ROBINSON at Zeehan > > Fanny ROBINSON 9/9/1909 at Petersham Age 91 Father John CLAYTON Mother Fanny LUCAS Born Woburn Bedfordshire Eng (6 yr. Vic, 20 yr. Tas 26 yr. NSW) Married at Woburn to William Charles Robinson Issue William J (60) Ada (45) 2 m & 1 f deceased. > > John Tainsh > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Anne, Any Archbolds in the punishment books. I have an early Archbold settler at Arcadia. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "anne marie mobbs" <asnedden@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Place Names : Arcadia & Annangrove > Diane, > > There is a copy of the Arcadia School Punishment book at the Dural and > District Historical Society. > > ANNE > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Diane <dianep@optushome.com.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 7:39 PM > Subject: [H,H,HV] Place Names : Arcadia & Annangrove > > > > Hi all, > > > > If anyone would like a look-up, I have the following : > > > > * Galston and Arcadia - Memories of Value [L.B. Geelan] > > > > * A Century of Achievement, Arcadia Public School, 1894-1994 > > [Centenary Committee] > > > > * Our Treasure Trove - Annangrove, 1895-1995 [June Roughley] > > > > > > I spent some of my primary school years at Arcadia Public School :) > > > > > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Alison and List! Thanks for the info - am still "recovering" from the info uncovered yesterday - Eleanor and Ormsby were indicted for murder of a police sergeant - with Ormsby being "shipped" off to Newcastle with kids and Eleanor doing time in Parra Gaol... havent had a chance to get more detail as yet (have to earn a crust somewhere in amongst this stuff...) But thanks for the tip on the Tas List and I will catch up with that thread also! BTW, am also interested in the Cribb line, the Hewitt Line who married into the Skuthorpes! Thanks again! Liz

CHARLESTOWN: CAIN/OKANE-James/Robert James 1832/3 to 1879 I tend to believe that James came as convict (still to verify) in 1832/3 either on ship ROSLYN CASTLE or HIVE. Supposed to have married 1837 but this isn't panning out with children's births. WIFE: FLYNN/SWIFT-Eleanor 1831 to 1883 Came as convict (still to verify) Eleanor SWIFT 1831, ship Earl of Liverpool. CHILDREN: ELIZA TAYLOR, WILLIAM CAIN, ROBERT CAIN,DANIEL OKANE,JANE OKANE,PATRICK OKANE,JOHN CAIN.Resided at Redhead, moved to Charlestown.Robert had a Timber Mill at Dudley in the latter stages and became a miner.The others -Labourers.JAMES was a SAWYER. KANE HILL in Charlestown/Gateshead is named after them...connecting names:MORLEY,MELMOTT,OAKLEY,ENNIS,MARRIOTT, GRIFFIN...thanks Lesley

Hello there, We have a Bob Neich here in Inverell who is the Principal of one of our Primary schools, i don't know if he would be related. Marie L. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Place Names : Cattai

But I was an "A" grade student Anne <grin> (spelling being my best subject) but I certainly DO remember Mr. Leonard LOVE dishing out "six of the best" to some of the lads !! .... and the Lilly Pilly tree and warm milk (in glass bottles). Probably make interesting reading though :) Cheers, Diane ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Place Names : Arcadia & Annangrove > Diane, > There is a copy of the Arcadia School Punishment book at the > Dural and District Historical Society. > > ANNE

Forgot to mention that Michael Healy married Bridget Gillespie, sister to Ann, and cousin to my ggg grandmother Mary Gillespie. ANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: anne marie mobbs <asnedden@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:21 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] ROLL CALL > Further Black Creek/Branxton inhabitants. > > William Bowen - land owner of subdivision of Farmborough, set aside for the village of Black Creek, now Branxton. > Partner in the first "Fly Coach" from Black Creek to Patrick's Plains. > > Thomas Raisbeck and Elizabeth Bowen (daughter of William Bowen), parents of William Raisbeck, inherited the remainder of allotments and sold to Mrs. Dooling, Michael Healy, Dominick Gillespie, John Sweeney, Ben Singleton, > (have a copy of the subdivision plan with purchases and costs incurred) > > ANNE > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Further Black Creek/Branxton inhabitants. William Bowen - land owner of subdivision of Farmborough, set aside for the village of Black Creek, now Branxton. Partner in the first "Fly Coach" from Black Creek to Patrick's Plains. Thomas Raisbeck and Elizabeth Bowen (daughter of William Bowen), parents of William Raisbeck, inherited the remainder of allotments and sold to Mrs. Dooling, Michael Healy, Dominick Gillespie, John Sweeney, Ben Singleton, (have a copy of the subdivision plan with purchases and costs incurred) ANNE

As Previously mentioned: Black Creek/Branxton the home of Thomas Sweeney (Asia 1825) and Mary Gillespie, their children (5 out of 7 found) Bridget 1834, Mary 1835,Catherine 1837, John and Patrick 1841. (as a family) Bridget Sweeney/Freel/Raisbeck and William Raisbeck John Sweeney also called Corbett, until 1883. Mary Sweeney jnr and husband William Wallace Cassilis/Collary Station: Bryan Egan and Ann Gillespie, (who also lived at Wollombi) James Freel and Bridget Sweeney - short time at Collaroy Dominick Gillespie and Mary (Moonelly) ANNE

Even Mr. Carlov's signature is sighted. ANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Place Names : Arcadia & Annangrove > > But I was an "A" grade student Anne <grin> (spelling being > my best subject) but I certainly DO remember Mr. Leonard > LOVE dishing out "six of the best" to some of the lads !! > .... and the Lilly Pilly tree and warm milk (in glass bottles). > > Probably make interesting reading though :) > > > > Cheers, > Diane > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 9:53 PM > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Place Names : Arcadia & Annangrove > > > > Diane, > > There is a copy of the Arcadia School Punishment book at the > > Dural and District Historical Society. > > > > ANNE > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Phyllis, I'm not sure if you already have this, but there was a John NEICH, who married Sarah CLARK, in 1890 (Windsor) - both are buried at St. James Cemetery, Pitt Town, along with other family members. I'd say they'd be related to your lot, as John NEICH took up an 80 acre grant along the Cattai Ridge in 1888. There is also a Neich Road at both Maraylya and Hillside (Cattai Ridge). Also, I remember mention of Bill "Clicker" CLARK who was related to the NEICH's in some way. I don't have any family connections, but did do some some historical work for the local school some years back - John and Sarah and their descendants had a long association with the school and local community. (Some of the family were timbergetters). I'm not sure where you are ?, but I know of two NEICH descendants who live at Windsor/Richmond and the Central Coast. Let me know "off list" if you would like their contact details. Regards, Diane > ----- Original Message ----- > Subject: Cattai > Is anyone researching the JONES family from the Cattai Pitt Town area > John Jones married Mary Ann Fuller 1840 > Children > Robert married Selina Gough > John Married Charlotte Stubbs > Ann married Henry Strange > David Married Sarah Weaver > George married Josephine Bowd > Sarah married William Roberts > Elizabeth marriedJohn Kulucy > Jane Henry Childs > Adeline married Smith > Would like to hear from anyone reseaching these people > Also Neich , clark , from same area

Diane, There is a copy of the Arcadia School Punishment book at the Dural and District Historical Society. ANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Place Names : Arcadia & Annangrove > Hi all, > > If anyone would like a look-up, I have the following : > > * Galston and Arcadia - Memories of Value [L.B. Geelan] > > * A Century of Achievement, Arcadia Public School, 1894-1994 > [Centenary Committee] > > * Our Treasure Trove - Annangrove, 1895-1995 [June Roughley] > > > I spent some of my primary school years at Arcadia Public School :) > > > > Diane > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello List. PlaceName:Hawkesbury - Cornwallis Given and Surname: William KISS. Date: 1828 Census. Other Comments: William was aged 25 years - born in the colony - son of James KISS( convict arrived per Ganges 1797) - William was a labourer to William Hounslow of Cornwallis. Query: Has anyone heard of William KISS in relation to Cornwallis or anything else. Would like to be able to fill in the gaps until his marriage to Elizabeth KENNEDY in the early 1830s. Marie Lute. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 7:31 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] "Place Names" Roll Call : A-B-C