Hello Lesley. I cannot find any direct help for you, but here are 2 URLs relating to Tassy, where you might meet someone who can help you: Tasmania BDMs: Free Indexes: http://pioneers.tased.edu.au Digging up your Family History in Northern Tasmania: http://www.elaunceston.com/familyhistory/ good luck: ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley McQuire" <mcquire5@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] C - as in Convict > I am hoping that those who have convicts in their ancestry may be able to assist me. I have a convict named Thomas GRAVETT who was transported for a 15 year conviction from Surrey, England on the Emerald Isle to TASMANIA in October 1843. After his release, he begins to wander. He married in Victoria in 1864 and also married in Bathurst NSW in 1892. I have looked through records at SAG, LDS centre at Carlingford and the Mitchell Library in the hope of finding a 'ticket of leave/pardon' for this man. An archivist at the NSW State Archive Office informed me that the NSW Archives only holds the shipping records to Tasmania. > I have trawled the Tasmanian sites including the Tasmanian Archives but cannot find how one goes about applying for a copy of a convicts release. There was another convict also named Thomas GRAVETT in NSW but he arrived in 1827. If anyone has needed to find a convict sent to Tasmania where do you apply for their ticket of leave/pardon??? > Kindest Regards > Lesley > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear Lesley, Just thought I'd check re the John Hennessy. I have a few of them in my lines.... Do you have any more details about him (ie parents or when he arrived etc. ) I have a large family of Hennessys coming from Dundrum in 1850. Parents John & Honora - both deceased in Ireland prior to 1850. In the first generation there is no sign of a John but the name reappears all along in the second generation. I wonder if your John belongs to mine????? Cheers Lorraine

Eric Cupitt has done an immense amount of research on the Cupitt family and has written several books. He maybe able to assist with your Neich connection or put you in contact with someone else researching the family. I will send his address off line, he does not have an email address that I am aware of. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Thank you for this info Diane. I appreciate your taking time to reply. Is Mary Grace (Dobbs) listed in the HVD? Does Death in the Hunter give a number or reference to the inquest of Anthony Dobbs? Can you tell me how to go about finding a copy of the inquest? Thanks again, Marie----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Anthony Dobbs convict > Hi Marie, > > According to the Hunter Valley Directory : 1841 > there was a John Anthony DOBBS who received a Ticket of Leave for > the Maitland District in August, 1840. He arrived on the 'John 1' (4), 1832. > Also, according to Death in the Hunter, an Inquest was held for an > Anthony DOBBS, aged 33, in February, 1843, at Maitland. > > There are three John Brennans listed in the HVD - only one listed as a > convict at the time - John BRENNAN, Convict, assigned to Andrew LANG, > Paterson (Sept. 1840) who arrived per 'Andromeda 11' (1) in 1830. > Some info about the LANG family and Dunmore House can be found at > http://www.nationaltrust.com.au/dunmore.asp > Their convict Indents, Ticket of Leave Butts and/or Permission to Marry > may provide some further info. > > I think that there are some GRONO descendants on this list, so they may > get in touch; or you could try the AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS mailing > list, if you haven't already; there are some details on the GRONO family at > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/page105.html > and from memory there was a recent reunion and book published. > > So, a few references you could follow up on. > > > Regards, > Diane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marie Donaldson" <mariedonaldson@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: [H,H,HV] Anthony Dobbs convict > > > > Place name: Dunmore. > > > > Looking for convict Anthony or John Anthony Dobbs who married > > Mary Grace. (also a convict).I've heard that he worked at Dunmore. > > How do I prove this? He arrived in 1832 I think and died in 1843 > > apparently having been struck by lightning. His daughter Susan was > > born the same year. > > Mary then married to a John Brennan, I believe also a convict - perhaps > > in the same area? Susan was now known as Susan Brennan. Later her > > mother is found living with Thomas Grono at Windsor although no > > marriage record has been found, she calls herself Mary Grono and > > her daughter was married as Susan Grono. > > Anyone researching these people? > > Marie in Sydney. > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Marie, According to the Hunter Valley Directory : 1841 there was a John Anthony DOBBS who received a Ticket of Leave for the Maitland District in August, 1840. He arrived on the 'John 1' (4), 1832. Also, according to Death in the Hunter, an Inquest was held for an Anthony DOBBS, aged 33, in February, 1843, at Maitland. There are three John Brennans listed in the HVD - only one listed as a convict at the time - John BRENNAN, Convict, assigned to Andrew LANG, Paterson (Sept. 1840) who arrived per 'Andromeda 11' (1) in 1830. Some info about the LANG family and Dunmore House can be found at http://www.nationaltrust.com.au/dunmore.asp Their convict Indents, Ticket of Leave Butts and/or Permission to Marry may provide some further info. I think that there are some GRONO descendants on this list, so they may get in touch; or you could try the AUS-PT-JACKSON-CONVICTS mailing list, if you haven't already; there are some details on the GRONO family at http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/page105.html and from memory there was a recent reunion and book published. So, a few references you could follow up on. Regards, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Donaldson" <mariedonaldson@optusnet.com.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] Anthony Dobbs convict > Place name: Dunmore. > > Looking for convict Anthony or John Anthony Dobbs who married > Mary Grace. (also a convict).I've heard that he worked at Dunmore. > How do I prove this? He arrived in 1832 I think and died in 1843 > apparently having been struck by lightning. His daughter Susan was > born the same year. > Mary then married to a John Brennan, I believe also a convict - perhaps > in the same area? Susan was now known as Susan Brennan. Later her > mother is found living with Thomas Grono at Windsor although no > marriage record has been found, she calls herself Mary Grono and > her daughter was married as Susan Grono. > Anyone researching these people? > Marie in Sydney.

Thanks Diane I will do that. Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] James Goodwin > Hi Sally, > > There is a rootsweb list called AUS-NSW-BLUEMOUNTAINS > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/ > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in the > Blue Mountains area of New South Wales, Australia, including Katoomba, > Bilpin, Leura, Springwood, Hartley, Lithgow, and other nearby towns. > > > Regards, > Diane > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sally hart" <shart@tpg.com.au> > Subject: [H,H,HV] James Goodwin > > > > Hi All, > > Is anyone aware of a similar list for the Lithgow area. > > I am searching for information,about my forebear James Goodwin, > > librarian,died at Lithgow 1937. > > Regards > > Sally > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Place name: Dunmore. Looking for convict Anthony or John Anthony Dobbs who married Mary Grace. (also a convict).I've heard that he worked at Dunmore. How do I prove this? He arrived in 1832 I think and died in 1843 apparently having been struck by lightning. His daughter Susan was born the same year. Mary then married to a John Brennan, I believe also a convict - perhaps in the same area? Susan was now known as Susan Brennan. Later her mother is found living with Thomas Grono at Windsor although no marriage record has been found, she calls herself Mary Grono and her daughter was married as Susan Grono. Anyone researching these people? Marie in Sydney.

Dear Sally, I live in the area at PORTLAND, but have no real family interests here. As far as I know there is not a list for this area, although one was rumoured. There is a family history group at Lithgow, of which I am not a member as yet. Sincerely, Bill sally hart wrote: > Hi All, > Is anyone aware of a similar list for the Lithgow area. > I am searching for information,about my forebear James Goodwin, librarian,died at

Russell, Margaret launched her book last year at the Popular Hall, Millers Forest Centenary of Federation celebrations. It was a great day :) You may still be able to purchase one from her, if she has any left (I'll send you her contact details off-line). Unfortunately it has no ISBN number. Another one I can recommend is : Raymond Terrace and District : History and Heritage by Cynthia Hunter ISBN 0 9586819 0 2 Published by the Raymond Terrace Historical Society In 1854, the 2,000 acres opposite Raymond Terrace, formally the grant of Vicars JACOB, and under cultivation by tenant farmers, was subdivided into forty farms and put up for auction. One of my lot purchased Lot 10, around 70 acres. The property, known as "Riverview", fronts the Hunter River, although these days it's a little better protected due to the levee banks. The park, near the Junction Inn, is a great place to just sit and look out over the river and the flats and wonder what it must have been like. Certainly, a forest no more .... Cheers, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Orchard" <russorchard@ozemail.com.au> Subject: RE: [H,H,HV] "Place Names" : D-E-F-G > Hi Diane, > Even so, the book sounds interesting. I wonder if it is available, at least > from a library as I would be interested in some background on Millers > Forest in which to place my family at the time. I drove through there on > my way home from hols once. I could see why flooding might have been > a serious problem with the low flats next to the river. > > Regards, > Russell > > Evening Russell, > > > > Are there any family connections to a Michael CUNNINGHAM (Jnr.) > > 1862-1932 ? (son of Patrick and Bridget ?) > > There are some references to this family in Margaret Osborn's > > book, "A Forest No More", which I think is a great title, > > A Short History of Millers Forest [including Duckenfield].

Hi Diane, The truth is, I don't know. I do not have them recorded at present, but I do have some loose ends to tidy up. Michael and Patrick are very prominent names in the family, but then they are in many Irish Catholic families. But there are also children Thomas and Mary from BDM which are not common to our family. By the early 1860's the Cunningham family had moved to the Gulgong area en masse. Sarah Peters was to die there in 1862. Marriage - 2767/1861 CUNNINGHAM PATRICK MARKHAM BRIDGET RAYMOND TERRACE Birth - 12961/1862 CUNNINGHAM MICHAEL PATRICK BRIDGET RAYMOND TERRACE Birth - 14170/1864 CUNNINGHAM THOMAS PATRICK BRIDGET RAYMOND TERRACE Birth - 14211/1866 CUNNINGHAM MARY PATRICK BRIDGET RAYMOND TERRACE Adding to the problem is that there was at least one other Cunningham family in the Hunter region who I keep tripping over. My thinking says that they are not ours, but will save your email, just in case. Even so, the book sounds interesting. I wonder if it is available, at least from a library as I would be interested in some background on Millers Forest in which to place my family at the time. I drove through there on my way home from hols once. I could see why flooding might have been a serious problem with the low flats next to the river. Regards, Russell > Evening Russell, > > Are there any family connections to a Michael CUNNINGHAM (Jnr.) > 1862-1932 ? (son of Patrick and Bridget ?) > There are some references to this family in Margaret Osborn's > book, "A Forest No More", which I think is a great title, > A Short History of Millers Forest [including Duckenfield].

Place Name : Gresford Patrick FLYNN, my 3rd g-grandfather I know little about Patrick at this stage, other than some scant details from his marriage entry. In August 1840, he was a batchelor, parish of Gresford, who married at Oakville (parish), Whittingham (circuit), Wollombi (district) Caroline STONE, spinster. Witnesses were Thomas BAYLEY (or BAGLEY) and Johanna MASON, both of Paterson. Five children : William (1842), John (1843), Maria (1845), Clara (1847) and Caroline (1849). On daughter Clara's baptism entry, his place of abode is shown as Narrowgut. No Quality or Profession listed. Am currently waiting on some certificates which may, or may not, shed further light on this couple. Regards, Diane

Evening Russell, Are there any family connections to a Michael CUNNINGHAM (Jnr.) 1862-1932 ? (son of Patrick and Bridget ?) There are some references to this family in Margaret Osborn's book, "A Forest No More", which I think is a great title, A Short History of Millers Forest [including Duckenfield]. Following the devastating 1893 flood, then the drought of 1895, my paternal g-grandfather must have decided to call it quits and moved on to greener, and drier, pastures. He had his final clearing out sale in 1899 - lock, stock and household sundries. Regards, Diane ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: RE: [H,H,HV] "Place Names" : D-E-F-G > Hi Diane, > > My 3g grandparents, Michael Cunningham and Sarah Peters lived in > the Millars Forest area around 1856 where son Patrick was born on > 6 Mar 1856. The family lived generally around the area from Raymond > Terrace through to East Maitland from the 1840's before moving to > the Gulgong area around the mid 1860's. > > Regards, > Russell

Hi List! Thought I would throw some lines in the waters and see what I catch! James Cribb - b 13/8/1797 Bristol Glos, England a Syd per Atlas 22/7/1816 (Had been convicted of ? at Lancaster, Lancashire 1815 and received life) He married Jane Hewitt b 12/3/07 Richmond on 26/12/1820. James died 13/7/1841 and Jane died 15/5/1880 Richmond. Children of James and Jane: Mary Ann - 24/2/1822 Richmond - m Thomas Skuthorpe 31/12/1839 - died 20/2/1854 buried St Peters, Richmond. - many issue (our line) Hannah d/b/22/5/1824 Richmond - d/d 20/5/1867 Jane b 22/7/1826 Richmond m 23/9/1845 Thomas Eather Williams d 18/12/1873 or 1875 John b 23/9/1828 /Richmond d 12/11/1865 Sarah b 22/2/1831 Colo m 5/3/1850 Charles Williams James b 24/4/1833 Colo d 18/2/1861 Elizabeth b 30/9/1835 Colo m 25/4/1853 Joseph Gosper Amos Pratt b 3/6/1838 North Richmond m 7/10/1859 Mary Everingham d 1/3/1868 Emma b 14/11/1841 Richmond Parents of James Cribb - unknown - waiting on reply from Lancaster Castle where he was sentenced to see if they have other info. Parents of Jane Hewitt: Alexander Hewitt - b ? Cheshire England a PJ per Glatton 11/3/1803 (had been sentenced in Chester in 1801 for 7 yrs for ?) m in England to Jane ? date unknown. Jane Hewitt (the mother of Jane) was born 11/6/1776 in Chester and she came out on the William Pitt and arrived in PJ14/4/1806. She had been given 14 yrs for ? unknown in 1803. Methinks it may have been to get out to Alexander? Jane may also have had further relationships with John Cribb p Perseus b1773 d11/9/1833 with out issue (as far as I am aware); and someone unknown - but had a further 3 children Alexander Hewitt b 28/3/1844, Thomas Stephen b 10/7/46 and William Charles b 1848 m 1867 Esther Herps d 1932 (all given the name of Cribb inspite of James dying in 1841) In relation to Alexander & Jane Hewitt, any pointers on how I find out details of his parents and hers? Would permissions to marry list her maiden name, parents names etc? Unfortunately, I have virtually nil access to the NSW State Archives Kit due to Toowoomba Library not possessing it - the nearest is State Library of Qld in Bris, and at this stage, I am not in a position to amble down in the next month or so at least!!! Thanks in Anticipation! Liz

Hi Lesley, I can't help with your query, but as a suggestion you could try the AUS-Tasmania-List http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/ Topic: a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in Tasmania. Someone on that list may be able to help you - They also run a website in conjunction with the mailing list http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Regards, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley McQuire" <mcquire5@optushome.com.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] C - as in Convict > I am hoping that those who have convicts in their ancestry may be > able to assist me. I have a convict named Thomas GRAVETT who > was transported for a 15 year conviction from Surrey, England on the > Emerald Isle to TASMANIA in October 1843.

Hi Sally, There is a rootsweb list called AUS-NSW-BLUEMOUNTAINS http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS/ Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in the Blue Mountains area of New South Wales, Australia, including Katoomba, Bilpin, Leura, Springwood, Hartley, Lithgow, and other nearby towns. Regards, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "sally hart" <shart@tpg.com.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] James Goodwin > Hi All, > Is anyone aware of a similar list for the Lithgow area. > I am searching for information,about my forebear James Goodwin, > librarian,died at Lithgow 1937. > Regards > Sally

Hi All, Is anyone aware of a similar list for the Lithgow area. I am searching for information,about my forebear James Goodwin, librarian,died at Lithgow 1937. Regards Sally

I have browsed your archives and seen previous references to above. I am a descendant of Emanuel Neich and am compiling a tree and family history book. Need to inform descendants and gain as much info as possible. Our weak link is the Pittown chain, as we are unable to establish the parentage of John and Alexander Neich buried at Pittown. Births would be abt 1860 and 1867 resp. We believe their parents are Emanuel Neich and Mary Cupitt. I dont know if this is the Mary Cupitt who married an Emmett and if he was dead at this stage. I did see a death of a John Emmett which would fit. Was Mary a worker at an inn or similar where Emanuel may have stayed en-route to his property at Berrima? His family owned Roberton Park and Comerton Park at Berrima. I am not sure of the geography but someone told me that in the old days they would have had to go via Pittown to get to Berrima. Emanuel lived in Burwood, so would you locals please advise whether this route is correct? I found a Cupitt tree on the net, but with no address for the submitter which was unfortunate. Does anyone have a full tree of John and Alexander's descendants. They both married Clarke sisters. Thanks and kind regards Lina Molong

hello Jan, if you give me some names AFTER 1903, and dates and towns I'll have a look in the electoral rolls Happy Hunting, Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Glasby" <jan.glasby@hawkerc.act.edu.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:26 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] "Place Names" Roll Call : Gundy > Hi all, > > I'm researching the WALTERS and SCRIVENS families in the Gundy area: > > Charles James WALTERS married Rebecca MILLER 1876 - they lived at "Elgin > Valley" Gundy > Associated names are GREER, LAWRENCE, RILEY, WARE, WILDER > > William Joseph SCRIVEN married Sophia WALTERS (Charles' sister) 1871 - they > lived at "Fairlight", Lower Rouchel. > Associated names are BARKER, BLENMAN, HILL, JONES, SAVAGE, TOMLINSON - also > in Aberdeen, Muswellbrook and Scone > > Cheers > Jan > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I am hoping that those who have convicts in their ancestry may be able to assist me. I have a convict named Thomas GRAVETT who was transported for a 15 year conviction from Surrey, England on the Emerald Isle to TASMANIA in October 1843. After his release, he begins to wander. He married in Victoria in 1864 and also married in Bathurst NSW in 1892. I have looked through records at SAG, LDS centre at Carlingford and the Mitchell Library in the hope of finding a 'ticket of leave/pardon' for this man. An archivist at the NSW State Archive Office informed me that the NSW Archives only holds the shipping records to Tasmania. I have trawled the Tasmanian sites including the Tasmanian Archives but cannot find how one goes about applying for a copy of a convicts release. There was another convict also named Thomas GRAVETT in NSW but he arrived in 1827. If anyone has needed to find a convict sent to Tasmania where do you apply for their ticket of leave/pardon??? Kindest Regards Lesley

Hi More details to assist the previous inquiry. Can anyone help me with the families of Joseph DAVIS, Mary Ann STAHL & Mary Ann Hoskisson Joseph Davis , son of Joseph Davis and Elizabeth Simpson, was born on 13 Sep 1844 in Portland Head, NSW, AUS, died on 11 Nov 1884 in Peel St, Tamworth, NSW, AUS. Joseph married Mary Ann Stahl, daughter of George Joseph Stahl and Catherine /Getz Ketz, on 28 Sep 1875 in Registration, Windsor, NSW, AUS. Mary was born on 24 Oct 1852 in Parramtta, NSW, AUS, and died on 14 Jan 1926 in Registration, Burwood, NSW, AUS. Children from this marriage were: i. Evelina Mary Davis was born on 3 Mar 1876 in Yarramundi, NSW, AUS. ii. George Albert Davis was born on 7 Oct 1877 in Yarramundi, NSW, AUS. iii. Emily Blanche Davis was born on 2 Sep 1879 in Yarramundi, NSW, AUS. iv. Lucy May Davis was born about 1882 in Registration, Richmond, NSW, AUS. v. Elsie Davis was born on 19 Dec 1886 in Yarramundi, NSW, AUS. Joseph next married Mary Ann Hoskisson, daughter of Thomas Hoskisson and Margaret Cameron, on 9 Feb 1882 in St Laurences CE, Barraba, NSW, AUS. Mary was born about 1862 in Registration, Tamworth, NSW, AUS and died on 12 Jun 1938 in Registration, Burwood, NSW, AUS. Children from this marriage were: i. Elizabeth Gertrude Ann Davis was born about 1882 in Registration, Tamworth, NSW, AUS and died about 1968. ii. Thomas Joseph Davis was born about 1884 in Registration, Manilla, NSW, AUS and died about 1965. I am trying to complete the family lines for Joseph DAVIS & Mary Ann ROGERS, and this is a line with which I need some help. Regards Keith Skinner My web page - Joseph Davis / Mary Rogers and their descendants http://members.ozemail.com.au/~kskinner/PAGE2.HTM