(Diane has successfully extracted me from a corner with her encouragement re places in the Hills District!) My BROWN family lived for many years in the home named "Brislington" on the corner of George and Marsden Sts Parramatta. I'd love to hear from anyone who has connections to the home or to the family who were Drs in Parramatta for over 90 years. One family I'd particularly like to contact is the SPIERS family. Mr Sam Spiers was coachman, gardener and much respected helper of the family for many decades. I have some pages on my website for the BROWNS and their ancestors in Brislington Somerset if any reader is interested. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/Brown/bro wnfrontpage.htm Regards Ann Carson annmacarthurc@ozemail.com.au BORTHWICK Worldwide One Name Study (GoONS 3727)

My Great grandmother Sarah Jackson married William Thomas Locock in 1872 William Thomas was the first landholder at Mt View Ihave a lot of information on the Lococks but not very much on Sarah Jackson I beleive her parents were Henry Jackson and Rachel Atkinson is anyone reserching this Jackson Family Would also like to hear from anyone researching Lambkin Family from Pokolbin area Regards Phyllis

Afternoon all, Even though we are half way through the placenames, less than 10% of subscribers have participated so far (so obviously there's not much interest). For anyone who may be waiting, the next lot is ... HILLS DISTRICT : Nelson, Northmead, North Rocks, North Parramatta, Parramatta (sort of bordering, but I'll include it anyway as a lot of the early Hills District settlers had Parramatta connections), Pennant Hills, Rogans Hill, Round Corner, Rouse Hill (Vinegar Hill), Schofields (bordering), Seven Hills HAWKESBURY : North Richmond, Oakville, Pitt Town, Pitt Town Bottoms, Portland Head, Richmond, Richmond Hill, Riverstone, Sackville, Sackville Reach, South Windsor, Scheyville, Spencer, St. Albans HUNTER VALLEY : Neath, Nelson's Plains, Newcastle (and suburbs), Nulkaba, Narrowgut, Neotsfield, New Lambton, Nobby's, Norahville, Oakvale, Oakhampton, Old Banks, Oswald, Overton, Osterley, Onebygamba, Paterson, Pages River, Paterson River, Patrick's Plains, Paxton, Plattsburg, Phoenix Park, Pelaw Main, Pitnacree, Pokolbin, Putty, Port Stephens, Quorrobolong, Queens Wharf, Raworth, Raymond Terrace, Rutherford, Rothbury, Ryhope, Raspberry Junction, Rouchel, Rathluba, Ravensworth, Ravensfield, Rosebrook, Salt Ash, Sandgate, Sawyer's Gully, Scott's Flat, Seaham, Singleton, Stockton, Stroud, Stratford, Sandy Hollow, Sidden's Swamp, Scone, St. Aubins, St. Heliers, Segenhoe, Salisbury (and probably others) I'll finish off with the last group in a few days time. Diane

Hi Everyone! Further to my query re James Cribb (Atlas 3 - 1815) and Jane Hewitt, I am aware, that after James Cribb died (1841), she is buried as Jane French in the Cribb Vault at Richmond. On checking the Col Sec index- there are 2 John French listed: John French - 73rd Regiment & John French - per Eliza 1815. On checking the 1841 Census, both John French are still alive and kicking with one living in Colo and the other in Black Wattle Swamp. Would anyone have info as to which John French caught Jane's eye?? and if, they were married? Thanks for any help! Liz Hulin

Place Name : Millers Forest Name : Mary McDONAGH, my 2nd g-grandmother Born : abt. 1821, Ardore, Co. Fermanagh, Ireland Father : Charles McDONAGH Mother : Mary BURNIE/BIRNIE/BERNEY Married : 1. James LAW, 1840, Co. Fermanagh, Ireland Arrived in NSW per "Theresa", 1842. Four children, all born in the Hunter Married : 2. John SAUNDERS, Widower, of Miller's Forest, 1871 Witnesses : Hugh FRASER (brother-in-law) and Jane FRASER (sister) Died : 1898 at Miller's Forest, buried (unmarked) at Raymond Terrace Pioneers. Four of Mary's brothers and one sister are also buried at RTP. Two of Mary's other siblings also came to NSW, one settling on "Disputed Plain" at Casino, the other at Bangalow (northern NSW). Name : George SOMERVILLE, my 2nd g-grandfather Born : abt. 1789, Lowtherstown, now Irvinestown, Co. Fermanagh, Ireland Father : Christopher SOMERVILLE Mother : Ann HUMES Married : Rebecca CLARK/E, daughter of William CLARK/E and Sarah EVANS, 1816, Kilskerry Church, Co. Tyrone, Ireland. 10 children, all born in Ireland. Arrived in NSW per "Bee", 1856, with Rebecca and their two youngest children. Travelling with them was their elder daughter, her husband and their two children. The other seven of George and Rebecca's children all came to NSW from 1840 onwards, some settling in Sydney and the others in the Hunter. George d. 1877 at Millers Forest and Rebecca d. 1882, also at MF. Both buried at Raymond Terrace Pioneers. Cheers, Diane

Thanks to all those who sent me information on the above. I am still looking for more death certificate and SMH funeral notices for the above undertakers as well as WJ Dixon and H Dixon. You can email, send photocopies or scan- I don't mind how they arrive Thanks again Sandra (nee Dixon) in Maryborough Qld ----- Original Message ----- From: "sandra armstrong" <sandra@satcom.net.au> To: <Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 5:16 AM Subject: Thomas Dixon Undertakers, Oxford Square & Newtown - proposed data base > Dear Listers, > As if I haven't got enough to do with my time I have decided to try and > gather names of people who were buried by my gggrandfather and his > sons,and grandsons, mentioned above. Please also forgive the cross > postings > > The firm started abt 1850 at South Head Rd, then Oxford Street and also > Newtown, and continued in the family until 1975. It is still an > operating company but is now owned by an American firm of undertakers. > Some years ago I attempted to find some records for the firm but were > told that they had all been taken to the tip when new management took > over. > > If you have anyone buried by my family I would love to hear from you > and hopefully I can build up a database which would be available to all. > Some burials would have been performed by my Dad's grndfather Henry and > also by his gtuncle William who died in 1900. Please contact me if you > can help, either by sending photocopies to me, by scanning or by > emailing me data. > > Many thanks in advance > Sandra Armstrong in Maryborough Qld ( nee Dixon) > > >

Sent from the wrong address ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bert George" <cruisingramps@optusnet.com.au> Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [H,H,HV] Re: Enfield & Merrick > Hi all,I have just come across a note from chrisdim@ozemail.com.au > relating to John Merrick son of Edward Merrick. If you are after any > information on that lineage let me know through this medium. > cruisingramps > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <chrisdim@ozemail.com.au> > Subject: [H,H,HV] Re: Enfield & Merrick > > John Merrick son of Edward Merrick and husband to Eliza Francis. > > Issue: Sarah, Louisa, Susannah, Elizabeth, John Edward Richard, > > Henrietta, HArriet, William Thomas & Emeline. > > > > Eusebeia Sutherland

Hi Eusebia I am a Merrick Descendant, not your line, mine is Joseph Merrick and Maria Wood. If it might help I can send you what I have on your line. You never know it may have something. I am happy to share what I have on the rest of the line too. Regards June ----- Original Message ----- From: <chrisdim@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: [H,H,HV] Re: Enfield & Merrick > John Merrick son of Edward Merrick and husband to Eliza Francis. > > Issue: Sarah, Louisa, Susannah, Elizabeth, John Edward Richard, > Henrietta, HArriet, William Thomas & Emeline. > > Eusebeia Sutherland > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Russell, If you don't have any luck with a newspaper look-up, the State Library (Sydney) has the MM on microfilm, so if you ever get down there ... According to W.A. Wood, Dawn in the Valley - "Major Morisett certified on 28 July, 1822, that Lieut. Close took possession of his land by permission of Gov. Macquarie and commenced building his house at a very heavy expense in the belief that the lagoon would be the boundary at the back and the remainder of the grant would extend along the river. Gov. Brisbane's regulation restricting the river frontage of each grant to one mile not only forced Close to take the lagoon and swamp at the rear but the poor land beyond it .... " Perhaps this part of his grant was known locally as Close's Swamp ? "Brisbane overcame these difficulties by increasing Close's grant to 2,300 acres in two portions, which exceeded the regulated river frontage, and put him in possession of the whole of the land suitable for a town at the head of deep-water river navigation ... " Morpeth ! After realising Brisbane should not have alienated the high ground to a private holder, Gov. Darling tried to resume some of it back ! There was a lot a haggling - Close wanted to be compensated for all the work and money he had spent in clearing the land but Darling wouldn't meet the price Close was asking. I'm not sure whether they did eventually settle on a price, but in the end Close did free that part of his land that forms present-day Morpeth, which at the time was becoming an important river port. The greater part of Close's grants remained in the family for nearly a century, before being auctioned around 1920. (Ref: The Morpeth Story) There were a few cemeteries in the area in operation at the time - Morpeth, Campbell's Hill (formerly West Maitland), St. Peters Old Burial Ground (East Maitland); and Hiland Crescent. I had a quick look in the Maitland City Council Burial Records CD, but no listing. Also, there are two Inquest listings in Death in the Hunter - BUT - the dates are a little out - Anne Kelly, 42, held at East Maitland, 26th August, 1856 and Mary Ann Kelly, 46, held at East Maitland, 2nd September, 1856. They usually held the inquests fairly quickly ? so probably not. Regards, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Orchard" <russorchard@ozemail.com.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] Close's Swamp - Ann Kelly nee Cunningham > Hi all, > My ggg grand aunt, Ann Kelly nee Cunningham died at Close's > Swamp on 25 Jul 1856. Cause of death is shown as "Died by > drowning(DT's)" which doesn't herald well for our Ann. This was > probably reported in the newspaper of the time, but I note the online > Maitland Mercury is only available to 1855. > Can anybody help with a newspaper lookup? > Can anyone offer anything more positive as to the whereabouts of > Close's Swamp? My understanding is that it is in the Maitland/Morpeth > area and I assume named after Edward Charles Close, founder of > Morpeth (refer http://www.huntervalleygenealogy.com/close.htm ). > Ann was Catholic. I suppose there are many Catholic cemeteries in > that area that she may have been buried in. Any suggestions? > Regards, > Russell Orchard

Hi Jane and John, I don't know that much about Ellalong other than it has been Aellalong on earlier maps and that it is in the vicinity of Millfield, Launa and Wollombi, all farming communities. There are a few well known families in the general region - families that I am connected to in the area are John Thomas Baker(line of William Baker Neptune 1790) and his wife Jane Lousie Ware (also from Wollombi), Sarah Robinson who married Joseph Craft, Sarah Dixon (buried at Ellalong) d/o James Peulett (Scarborough 1788), Thomas William Collyer apparently had a pub in Wollombi. I have recently driven through the area and it is very pretty. You may find more information from the Museum at Wollombi or from the Cessnock Family Circle (online) Cheers, Beverle ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tainsh" <jjtainsh@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Ellalong > Hello All, > I have family who owned land in Ellalong about 1860-1870. > My ggrandfather Alexander McARTHUR is shown on the Parish map as owning a lot in Ellalong. The next lot was owned by Annie Kennedy who I presume was his cousin. Alexander and his uncle Alexander KENNEDY also had dealings with other parcels in the village. > I would be pleased to hear from anyone with an interest in these families or who can direct me to any info about Ellalong of that time. > > Jane Ann & John Tainsh > 17 Elegans Ave > ST.IVES NSW 2075 > (02) 9449 7142 > jjtainsh@tpg.com.au > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

>X-Sender: juchaur@hotel.uws.edu.au >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) >Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:04:57 +1000 >To: ml.juchau@uws.edu.au >From: Roger Juchau <r.juchau@uws.edu.au> >Subject: JAMES JUCHAU > >hi-thanks for info on my great great grandfather-i need specific help in >tracing his movements at glendon,singleton(SCOTT'S property) in 1833 to his >ticket of leave in 1835 & ticket of freedom in 1837--are there records in >the hunter which locate convict movements over this period?--any >help?-thanks roger >Professor Roger Juchau, >Foundation Professor of Accounting and Management >College of Law & Business >University of Western Sydney >Blacktown Campus >Locked Bag 1797, PENRITH SOUTH DC 1797, NSW Australia >Fax: 02 9852 4185, Tel: 02 9852 4202 Madeleine Juchau Project Manager AUTC Australian Business Education Study College of Law & Business University of Western Sydney Ph: (02)9852 4210 Mob: 0415 680 632 Fax: (02) 9852 4185

Hi Terry All I could I find:- Surname First Name Abode/Residence Ocupation Roll Year Qualification Munsie James Bray (?) ne Paterson 1859 - 60 household, B… Upper Paterson Munsie George Belgrave ne Paterson 1859 - 60 household htth terry ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Robert Griffiths d. Nov 1920 born Richmond m. Susannah Merrick. Eusebeia Sutherland

John Merrick son of Edward Merrick and husband to Eliza Francis. Issue: Sarah, Louisa, Susannah, Elizabeth, John Edward Richard, Henrietta, HArriet, William Thomas & Emeline. Eusebeia Sutherland

Hi all, My ggg grand aunt, Ann Kelly nee Cunningham died at Close's Swamp on 25 Jul 1856. Cause of death is shown as "Died by drowning(DT's)" which doesn't herald well for our Ann. This was probably reported in the newspaper of the time, but I note the online Maitland Mercury is only available to 1855. Can anybody help with a newspaper lookup? Can anyone offer anything more positive as to the whereabouts of Close's Swamp? My understanding is that it is in the Maitland/Morpeth area and I assume named after Edward Charles Close, founder of Morpeth (refer http://www.huntervalleygenealogy.com/close.htm ). Ann was Catholic. I suppose there are many Catholic cemeteries in that area that she may have been buried in. Any suggestions? Regards, Russell Orchard

I have the following ancestors: HILLS DISTRICT: Hannah Russell died 23 Nov 1881 in Dural - followed her convict father Henry Russell out here and married Thomas Thompson. Edward Fuller died 8 Feb 1855 in Dural - convict. Elizabeth Pendergrass died 27 Sep 1855 in Dural - convict who married Edward Fuller. HAWKESBURY DISTRICT: William Kentwell died 1809 in Green Hills, Hawkesbury River. Corinna

Moving right along, The next lot of placenames on the roll call include the following : HILLS DISTRICT : Hillside, Kenthurst, Kellyville, Maroota, Maroota South, Middle Dural HAWKESBURY : Hobartville, Kurmond, Kurrajong, Leets Vale, Londonderry, Lower Portland, Lower Portland Head, Macdonald River, Macdonald Valley (Central, Upper and Lower), McGraths Hill, Maraylya, Mogo Hill, Morans Hills, Mountain Lagoon, Mulgrave HUNTER VALLEY : Hamilton, Harpers Hill, Heatherbrae, Heddon Greta, Hexham, Hinton, Horseshoe Bend, Hillsborough, Honeysuckle Point, Howe's Valley, Hunter River, Islington, Illulaung, Illalong, Invermein, Irrawang, Ironbark, Jerrys Plains, Kings Island, Kilcoy, Kingdon Ponds, Kurri Kurri, Kooragang, Kayuga, Lambton, Laguna, Largs, Lochinvar, Lorn, Louth Park, Luskintyre, Lewinsbrook, Lidney, Lostock, Maitland, Morpeth, Mayfield, Melville, Merewether, Metford, Millers Forest, Martins Creek, Merriwa, Merton, Millfield, Minmi, Morisset, Mulbring, Millfield, Minimbah, Motto, Mosquito Moschetto) Island, Murray's Run, Muswellbrook, Murrurundi and any others in this category I may have missed ! Regards, Diane It's nice to see a little rain at last ... :)

Hi Carol, Many thanks for your kind offer. I can't think of any at the moment but will keep your email on file, if that's ok? Cheers Jan At 03:08 PM 27/07/2002 +1000, you wrote: >hello Jan, if you give me some names AFTER 1903, and dates and towns I'll >have a look in the electoral rolls > Happy Hunting, Carole >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jan Glasby" <jan.glasby@hawkerc.act.edu.au> >To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:26 PM >Subject: [H,H,HV] "Place Names" Roll Call : Gundy > > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm researching the WALTERS and SCRIVENS families in the Gundy area: >> >> Charles James WALTERS married Rebecca MILLER 1876 - they lived at "Elgin >> Valley" Gundy >> Associated names are GREER, LAWRENCE, RILEY, WARE, WILDER >> >> William Joseph SCRIVEN married Sophia WALTERS (Charles' sister) 1871 - >they >> lived at "Fairlight", Lower Rouchel. >> Associated names are BARKER, BLENMAN, HILL, JONES, SAVAGE, TOMLINSON - >also >> in Aberdeen, Muswellbrook and Scone >> >> Cheers >> Jan >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Hi Marie, No listing for Mary, but keep in mind that the HVD only covers the period 1840-42, and her name may not have appeared in the primary sources that were used to compile the directory. As for the Inquest - the number was 2088 - dated 26th Feb. 1843 [from Death in the Hunter, Inquests in the Maitland area, 1834-1942, by Maitland Family History Circle]. There is no reference to a newspaper article, so that probably means the details were taken from the A.O. (State Records) Registers of Coroners' Inquests and Magisterial Inquiries microfilm, and that they did not find a newspaper report - but that's not to say there wasn't one, and you always have a trawl through the on-line Maitland Mercury http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/browselist.html just to double check ! I don't think that inquest papers have survived for that period and you'll probably find that the register itself is the only record - containing a one line listing, with the number, place, date, name and cause of death (such as accidently killed or whatever). Very few details. Regards, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Donaldson" <mariedonaldson@optusnet.com.au> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Anthony Dobbs convict > Thank you for this info Diane. I appreciate your taking time to reply. > Is Mary Grace (Dobbs) listed in the HVD? Does Death in the Hunter > give a number or reference to the inquest of Anthony Dobbs? > Can you tell me how to go about finding a copy of the inquest? > Thanks again, > Marie

Keith, Re your request for information regarding Turnbull's & Davis. The Turnbull family have a new book out called "Turnbulls on the Coromandel 1802" References on pp.218-9 Archibald George Turnbull b. 4-5-1854 Sackville; d.15-1-1908 m.I.12-5-1885 Spouse I: Elizabeth Davis b. 4-5-1854 Sackville Reach; d.1-6-1897. Issue: 1. James Davis b.21-2-1886 Sackville Reach; d.15-5-1968 Ebenezer m. 1-12-1915 Annie Marie Tuckerman b. 1882 Windsor; d. 25-7-1968 Ebenezer 2. Jospeh Davis b. 1888 Windsor; d.16-12-1954 Windsor 3. George Davis b. 1892 Windsor; d.3-4-1963 Windsor m.II. 1907 Spouse II. Florence Letitia Tuckerman b. 1871 d. 1965 Archibald William Prosper b. 20-12-1907 d.21-12-1972 Wilberforce I will send you a copy of the pages off line with the author's details. Michelle Nichols _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com