Hi Listers, My Nicholls family lived/worked farms at Freemans Reach on the Hawkesbury from the 1840's to 1952. The family also owned some land along the "Highlands" which were/are located between Wilberforce and Freemans Reach and between the old Common and Bushells lagoon. The Highlands were thought to be safe from flooding, but in 1867 my g-grandfather, Frederick Nicholls and his wife Jane[nee Martin], were rescued by boat from the attic of their Highland house, which was located on the first ridge above the lagoon. When I was living on the farm which went down to the Hawkesbury, older members of my family always said the land along the river was the true Freemans Reach [similar to all the other Reaches on the Hawkesbury] and the hills towards the north, which is called Freemans Reach today, was called Blacktown because of an earlier Aboriginal settlement along the Blacktown road which runs from near the top of Gorricks lane towards the Highlands. Best regards.........Ian Nicholls.

Hello Diane Many thanks for the information re: Old Banks Regards, Lyn -----Original Message----- From: Diane [mailto:dianep@optushome.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 11 August 2002 8:43 PM To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] "Placenames" : N-O-P-Q-R-S Hi Lyn and evening all, What a glorious weekend of spring weather ! "Old Banks" was the name given to the site of an early cedar cutter's camp and military barracks on the Paterson River which was located in the area of Mindaribba, which lies between the Tocal Road and the Paterson River. Just as a bit of trivia, Mindaribba is an aboriginal name meaning hunter or the hunter :) I think "Clifden" was part of John Galt Smith's estate at Woodville, which is on the other side of the Paterson River, opposite Mindaribba. Can't help with Pool Farm ... Regards, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Golledge" <asgard1@austarnet.com.au> Subject: RE: [H,H,HV] "Placenames" : N-O-P-Q-R-S > Hi All, > Sorry I'm a little late with my 'O' placename, but I'm hoping someone > may be able to help with some information about OLD BANKS.

Hi Dianne Many thanks for your help Regards June ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Place names - Parramatta > > Hi June, > > There are some references in the Col. Sec. Index > http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/publications/colsec/default.htm > as to the Northern Boundary being the Field of Mars area. > > > > Cheers, > Diane > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "June Reeks" <juneree@turboweb.net.au> > Subject: [H,H,HV] Place names - Parramatta > > > > Hello Everyone > > Did send but only appeared in Archives. > > I am researching Patrick Hanratty in Parramatta. A convict, he arrived > > 1802 on "Atlas" 1. In 1809 a notice in the Sydney Gazette says he is > > in possession of the farm of Mr Holt at the Northern Boundary. Anyone > > know where this would be??. Patrick married 1. Sarah Wilson and 2. > > Sarah Primer. > > Regards > > June > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

>One of my projects is to document the people who worked or lived on the >property, Vacy on the Paterson River, over the period 1830-1927 when it >was held by the Cory family. During this time, a small >township developed on Vacy with a church and school built by Gilbert >Cory. Many people were involved including convicts, agricultural workers, >leaseholders and residents. Apart from documenting the people, I am always on the lookout for small details that help to give a picture of the times. >Cheers, Jocelyn Lloyd

Hi June, There are some references in the Col. Sec. Index http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/publications/colsec/default.htm as to the Northern Boundary being the Field of Mars area. Cheers, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "June Reeks" <juneree@turboweb.net.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] Place names - Parramatta > Hello Everyone > Did send but only appeared in Archives. > I am researching Patrick Hanratty in Parramatta. A convict, he arrived > 1802 on "Atlas" 1. In 1809 a notice in the Sydney Gazette says he is > in possession of the farm of Mr Holt at the Northern Boundary. Anyone > know where this would be??. Patrick married 1. Sarah Wilson and 2. > Sarah Primer. > Regards > June

Thank you to all those who responded to my question. Got exactly what I was looking for. Phillip Carruthers Brisbane, Queensland, AUSTRALIA Home Phone +617 3273 5531 Work Phone +617 3221 9277 Work Fax +617 3229 5475 Mobile 0411 643 427 Home e-mail pcarruth@bigpond.net.au Work e-mail p.carruthers@ndy.com

Hi Lyn and evening all, What a glorious weekend of spring weather ! "Old Banks" was the name given to the site of an early cedar cutter's camp and military barracks on the Paterson River which was located in the area of Mindaribba, which lies between the Tocal Road and the Paterson River. Just as a bit of trivia, Mindaribba is an aboriginal name meaning hunter or the hunter :) I think "Clifden" was part of John Galt Smith's estate at Woodville, which is on the other side of the Paterson River, opposite Mindaribba. Can't help with Pool Farm ... Regards, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Golledge" <asgard1@austarnet.com.au> Subject: RE: [H,H,HV] "Placenames" : N-O-P-Q-R-S > Hi All, > Sorry I'm a little late with my 'O' placename, but I'm hoping someone > may be able to help with some information about OLD BANKS. > My ancestors Charles BURNS and Mary Ann MAHONEY were in this > location in 1862 as this was the birth place of one of their children. > Other locations listed as birth places for their children were Clifden > 1855 and 'Pool Farm" (Paterson River?) 1859. Wondered if there > was any connection between these locations? > Would be very grateful for any information anyone may be able to > help with. > Many thanks > Lyn

Diane, Ta! I've probably read it on list before but didn't note it. PhillipC ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] NSW BDM > > Hi Phillip, > > It's a good idea to bookmark these two pages, as the references > often come in handy :) > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ifhaa/ifhaa/misc/churchcod.htm > > Make sure all of the above is cut and pasted into a browser if it > doesn't come out as a clickable link. > > http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/page7.html > > > > Regards, > Diane > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: [H,H,HV] NSW BDM > > > > Listers, > > Can anyone tell me what the two letters in the District column mean > > prior to about 1855. Is there a key to what they mean? > > Phillip Carruthers > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Phillip, It's a good idea to bookmark these two pages, as the references often come in handy :) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ifhaa/ifhaa/misc/churchcod.htm Make sure all of the above is cut and pasted into a browser if it doesn't come out as a clickable link. http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/page7.html Regards, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] NSW BDM > Listers, > Can anyone tell me what the two letters in the District column mean > prior to about 1855. Is there a key to what they mean? > Phillip Carruthers

Listers, Can anyone tell me what the two letters in the District column mean prior to about 1855. Is there a key to what they mean? Phillip Carruthers Brisbane, Queensland, AUSTRALIA Home Phone +617 3273 5531 Work Phone +617 3221 9277 Work Fax +617 3229 5475 Mobile 0411 643 427 Home e-mail pcarruth@bigpond.net.au Work e-mail p.carruthers@ndy.com

RAYMOND TERRACE. Is any lister researching the family of TRISTAN de ACUNHA CARPENTER and HANNAH WORBOYS of RAYMOND TERRACE. One of their sons, George Lyndon Carpenter was in 1939 elected the FIRST AUSTRALIAN BORN GENERAL OF THE SALVATION ARMY. I am interested in their daughter AGNES MYRA CARPENTER B. 1868 who married my grandfather Mark Thomas Tucker in 1888 and died having their first child in 1890. Thank you Diane for your place names list, Carole.

Hi Bernice, I have a little information on some of the descendants of Thomas GRAHAM and Margaret Louisa MILLS, mainly through newspaper death/funeral notices etc. I am a descendant of Frances Charlotte MILLS, who was a sister of Margaret Louisa. Love to share information if you are interested. Regards Lyn -----Original Message----- From: BERNICE CALLAGHAN [mailto:bernicec@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 10 August 2002 8:01 PM To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [H,H,HV] place names Hi there tis me,,Bernice here .seeing thats its quite time thought I might post my names. Matthew Lock..B;1763,England D;8/4/1835,Wilberforce Sentenced;23/5/1787,"Old Bailey Arrived;26/6/1790"Surprise children to Eupham Graham;B;1772,Scotland D;27/4/1797,Parramatta Sentenced;Perth ,22/4/1791,Perth Arrived;14/2/1792,"Surprise. Matthew Lock and Eupham Graham had three children. Thomas(1794),Twin Elizabeth(1794) the third set of twins to be born in the colony(Elizabeth dying 1798). Mary(1795) Thomas married 1st Mary Maria Hodgetts(1813).Married 2nd Margaret Louisa Mills(1846).He fathered in all 21 children,all born Wilberforce.His daughter Mary maried Thomas Maloney.(1818).

Place names Upper Richmond My ancestor Thomas KIRK and family are listed on the Census as being in Ham County, Upper Richmond? Also he is listed BDM as place of death Upper Richmond. any clues to where the exact location would be welcomed. A bit of trivia. 1. "Evening News" of May 2nd 1859 published the following: Bushrangers - On Saturday as Thomas Kirk and John Waters, both residents of Yellow Mundies (now called Yarramundi) were returning homeward together with their teams, they were attacked by three ruffians, disguised, between Castlereagh and Richmond. The article states that the ruffians are supposed to be well known to the police. 2. Thomas Kirk is registered as having a licence for "The Plough" in 1853, 1854; in 1856 the name changed to "The Plough Inn". This information is from "Butts and Certs. of the First Publicans Licences 1830-1860": indexed by Jean McNaught 1997. ----- Original Message ----- From: "BERNICE CALLAGHAN" <bernicec@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] place names

Hi there tis Bernice here again...was rushing last posting as grandchildren had just arrived(and its a fight over puter between all 5 of them,oh arn't g/children lovely??..L.O.L).Anyway just to clarify..Mary Graham(b;1795),daughter of Matthew and Elizabeth married Thomas Maloney.The way I had posted it ,,it looked a bit confusing,sorry..And also transport on which Eupham arrived was the "Pitt".once again me sorry,...me rushing as I knew they were coming(the g/kids that is,Not Matthew or Eupham!!) Have a nice evening.Bernice.

Hi there tis me,,Bernice here .seeing thats its quite time thought I might post my names. Matthew Lock..B;1763,England D;8/4/1835,Wilberforce Sentenced;23/5/1787,"Old Bailey Arrived;26/6/1790"Surprise children to Eupham Graham;B;1772,Scotland D;27/4/1797,Parramatta Sentenced;Perth ,22/4/1791,Perth Arrived;14/2/1792,"Surprise. Matthew Lock and Eupham Graham had three children. Thomas(1794),Twin Elizabeth(1794) the third set of twins to be born in the colony(Elizabeth dying 1798). Mary(1795) Thomas married 1st Mary Maria Hodgetts(1813).Married 2nd Margaret Louisa Mills(1846).He fathered in all 21 children,all born Wilberforce.His daughter Mary maried Thomas Maloney.(1818). Matthew Lock was Chief Constable of the Hawksbury 1810..Also a witness for the Crown re the Castle Hill Rebellion. Both of his children took the name of "Graham" And Elizabeth buried under the name "Graham". I have done a bit of research on all 21 children which is still ongoing(boy this is fun.L.O.L) Have a nice day..Bernice.

I saw a neich street the other day off the pittown-dural road. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lina Moffitt" <disability@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 7:56 AM Subject: [H,H,HV] NEICH, LOWE, GALLAHER, CLARK > I'm trying to work out the ancestry of the Neich's of Pitt Town. > > A John Neich married / de facto Frances Lowe > (cant find registration and can't find his parentage) > > Children John and Alexander. Frances Lowe apparently had 2 brothers with same names. > > If we go down the line there is a Leon Gallaher. It is possible that John Neich's parents (another de facto liaison) are Emanuel Neich and Mary Cupitt who apparently was a barmaid at the pub "A Bird in the Hand" (appropriate since Emanuel had 2 wives also Mary and between the 3 women, about 30 children). I would love to be able to prove the liaison between Emanuel and Mary Cupitt, also the children they had. > > Does the pub still exist? Does anyone know these families to shed more light on the whole thing? > > A John and Alexander Neich married 2 Clark sisters of Pitt Town. > > Kind regards > Lina > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Good afternoon list, Joseph Graham O'CONNOR died in Dora Street MAYFIELD on 22 Jul 1913, aged 74 at the home of his daughter, FITZPATRICK. Joseph was born c1839 Kings Co IRL. He married Margaret Teresa EARL SYCNEY c1861. He is credited with being the founder of the Balmain Reporter newspaper c1867, Catholic Times c1877, and was a printer in Sydney. He was insolvent a couple of times during his business career as a printer. Joseph was a strong supporter of the Irish cause in NSW and his headstone at Sandgate reflects this. Any information on him welcomed and will share what I have. Sincerely,Bill

-----Original Message----- Hi All, Sorry I'm a little late with my 'O' placename, but I'm hoping someone may be able to help with some information about OLD BANKS. My ancestors Charles BURNS and Mary Ann MAHONEY were in this location in 1862 as this was the birth place of one of their children. Other locations listed as birth places for their children were Clifden 1855 and 'Pool Farm" (Paterson River?) 1859. Wondered if there was any connection between these locations? Would be very grateful for any information anyone may be able to help with. Many thanks Lyn HUNTER VALLEY : Neath, Nelson's Plains, Newcastle (and suburbs), Nulkaba, Narrowgut, Neotsfield, New Lambton, Nobby's, Norahville, Oakvale, Oakhampton, Old Banks, Oswald, Overton, Osterley, Onebygamba, Paterson, Pages River, Paterson River, Patrick's Plains, Paxton, Plattsburg, Phoenix Park, Pelaw Main, Pitnacree, Pokolbin, Putty, Port Stephens, Quorrobolong, Queens Wharf, Raworth, Raymond Terrace, Rutherford, Rothbury, Ryhope, Raspberry Junction, Rouchel, Rathluba, Ravensworth, Ravensfield, Rosebrook, Salt Ash, Sandgate, Sawyer's Gully, Scott's Flat, Seaham, Singleton, Stockton, Stroud, Stratford, Sandy Hollow, Sidden's Swamp, Scone, St. Aubins, St. Heliers, Segenhoe, Salisbury (and probably others) ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello Again Edward Payne, a convict on "Minerva" 1824 married Ann Hanratty 1837. Settled at Paynes Crossing. Associated names include, Moore, Bridge, Merrick, Riley, Beavan, Burgess and Cooper. There were two brothers of Edward's also at Wollombi - Stephen and Richard. Also a nephew Robert Roberts. Regards June

Hello everyone Researching Samuel Williams who married Matilda Primer. Son Joseph born 1837 Richmond?? Samuel died 1842 Richmond. Looking for the right Samuel Williams. Regards June