SMITH Thomas: Mt Druitt: RED COW INN Colyton: RED COW INN & THORNTON HALL , PENRITH Period in NSW: 1839 - 1896 Born: : BLACKPOOL ENGLAND 1819 Arrived Sydney Aust: 1829 on HOPE Regards Laura Player Perth WA lauraplayer2002@optusnet.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: Michelle Nichols <michelle_nichols@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:53 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Interest List - Hawkesbury Family History Group > Want to advertise your research interests to different clientele? > HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY listers are invited to participate, you do > not need to be a HFHG member. This is the last opportunity to participate > in the Hawkesbury Family History Group's Member's List. A "Members Interest > List" will be published in the September issue of the Hawkesbury Crier and > sent to participants, free. To participate send the following details > relating to your research. Limit of 16 entries per person. This has been > extended until the 3rd Sept 2002 because of previous problems with the list. > > SURNAME BEING RESEARCHED > CHRISTIAN NAME > TIME PERIOD > TOWN/VILLAGE & STATE/PARISH > COUNTRY > > e.g. SMITH, ALEXANDER 1820-1860 WINDSOR, NSW AUS > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
My Interests Michael RYAN, Windsor District around 1825 (farmer) Later at Morpeth ? Brisbanefield (Probably a free settler) his wife Mary Agnes McMAHON,Windsor District around 1825 Later at Morpeth (Probably a free settler) Daughter Julia RYAN married Joseph George WHITE 1845 at Morpeth Also, JG Whites Uncle's surname BRASSIL (alt spellings) Archibald SINCLAIR 2 children b at Morpeth. worked as ships Fireman 1880s Also, Francis McNALLY died Alderly, Stroud 1862. Worked as Vet for Australian Agricultural Co Phil Castleman PO Box 18 Seven Hills 1730 philc@tig.com.au
Hi Michelle, I would like to add my interests to the list. Daniel O'Brien wife Catherine Kelly,Windsor,1830 Cornelius O'Brien b:1830,son of above,m: Mary Ann Memory Charles Beasley,m: Mary Thomas 1815 Windsor. Elizabeth Beasley b: 1816 daugher of above m: Joseph Barnes 1851. Many Thanks Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Nichols" <michelle_nichols@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:53 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Interest List - Hawkesbury Family History Group > Want to advertise your research interests to different clientele? > HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY listers are invited to participate, you do > not need to be a HFHG member. This is the last opportunity to participate > in the Hawkesbury Family History Group's Member's List. A "Members Interest > List" will be published in the September issue of the Hawkesbury Crier and > sent to participants, free. To participate send the following details > relating to your research. Limit of 16 entries per person. This has been > extended until the 3rd Sept 2002 because of previous problems with the list. > > SURNAME BEING RESEARCHED > CHRISTIAN NAME > TIME PERIOD > TOWN/VILLAGE & STATE/PARISH > COUNTRY > > e.g. SMITH, ALEXANDER 1820-1860 WINDSOR, NSW AUS > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Heool heather, if you give me a brief run down of what you want in the Gundy etc areas I have a look, I live in Scone and have some research material. Happy Hunting, Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Macdonald" <hammac1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:21 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Surnames & Places of Interest > Hi everyone > > I have only just joined this list so thought i would post my places of Interest. > They include- > Gundy > Moonan Brook > Ellerston > Wells Swamp/Tomalla > Scone > > My main surnames i am researching from these areas are- > BAKER, BLENMAN & ROSSINGTON > > Other sub-branches include- TILSE, BATTERHAM, FIELD, SCRIVEN, GOODWORTH, CONE, COLLISON, JONES, GARLAND, HAYNE, HAINES, CASLICK, GOLLEDGE, COX, LUDDINGTON and the list goes on...... > > I am happy to swap info with anyone with the same interests. > > regards > Heather Macdonald > East Maitland > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >
These are my interests, Thank you for your offer. 1. Nicholls Frederick 1815-1880 Worc. ENG/Freemans Reach, NSW, AUS. 2. Nicholls William 1800-1888 Worc. ENG/Freemans Reach, NSW, AUS. 3. Martin Charles Homer 1796-1886 London ENG/Wilberforce, NSW, AUS. Ian Nicholls, Baulkham Hills, NSW, 2153.
Hi everyone I have only just joined this list so thought i would post my places of Interest. They include- Gundy Moonan Brook Ellerston Wells Swamp/Tomalla Scone My main surnames i am researching from these areas are- BAKER, BLENMAN & ROSSINGTON Other sub-branches include- TILSE, BATTERHAM, FIELD, SCRIVEN, GOODWORTH, CONE, COLLISON, JONES, GARLAND, HAYNE, HAINES, CASLICK, GOLLEDGE, COX, LUDDINGTON and the list goes on...... I am happy to swap info with anyone with the same interests. regards Heather Macdonald East Maitland
Subject: [H,H,HV] Interest List - Hawkesbury Family History Group My list - GLENNIE, Reverend Alfred, 1828 - 1870, Paterson (-1850), Gosford (-1863), Lochinvar (-1870)Hunter Valley, NSW, AUS GLENNIE, James, 1824 - 1850?, Dulwich, Glennies Creek, Hunter Valley, NSWAUS GLENNIE, John, abt 1840- abt. 1880, Orindinna, Hunter Valley NSW.AUS GLENNIE, Dr Henry, 1832- 1880, Singleton, Hunter Valley NSW.AUS HOLMES, Joseph Broadbent, 1842- 1897, The Wilderness, nr Branxton, Hunter Valley NSW.AUS CUSACK, Dr Samuel Athanasius, abt 1867 - 1869, Maitland or The Wilderness, nr Branxton, Hunter Valley NSWAUS regards Malcolm Glennie Holmes Wagga Wagga NSW Australia
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I thought some researchers might be interested in another avenue of research. Inquests were held to examine circumstances of any sudden or unnatural deaths which included accidents, suicide and acts of violence. Often "inquests" are noted on the death certificate, otherwise the yearly Indexes of Coroners Inquests can be consulted at State Records. There is an informative leaflet which explains all at www.records.nsw.gov.au/publications/aibs/aib04-inquests.htm The other excellent site to find additional information is the Decisions of the Superior Courts of New South Wales, 1788-1899 at www.law.mq.edu.au/scnsw/ The "Sydney Gazette" and "Sydney Morning Herald" newspapers often recorded details of inquests. The following is an account of the death of Fanny Pentony in 1822.In this instance the account provides a very vivid picture of an often rough and primitive community. "An Inquest into the death of Fanny Pentony took place on the 7th May 1822 at the Black Horse Inn at Richmond. The Inquest stated : ELIZABETH TALEBY presumably a servant or Barmaid, gave evidence first and told how FANNY (now deceased) had arrived at the inn about two hours before sunset, had come through the Public tap-room into the kitchen (which was at the back of the house) and "begged" that she (TALEBY) would not acquaint MRS RANDALL (the Licensee) of her being there. FANNY had a man named THOMAS with her who ordered a gill of brandy. The couple were apparently still there when (TALEBY) left at 8 o'clock. THOMAS SKINNER gave his account recalling that they had been drinking spirits, both brandy and gin and then he laid down drunk in the tap-room and the deceased lay upon him with her head upon his thighs and in that position she was found dead. RANDALL at closing time told servant EGLETON that he supposed that they would soon go home and asked him to see FANNY safe. Two hours later EGLETON found BLACK JOH (Joseph Ryan) crouched over the couple, and when surprised JOH dropped a quantity of coins onto the floor, which had probably been taken from the couple. BLACK JOH, a dark skinned Canadian, gave evidence that he had slept in the tap-room and had tried to have intercourse with the woman but THOMAS stirred. On his second attempt he told EGLETON She won't do, she is cold, she is dead. EGLETON alarmed the house and DR SEYMOUR (husband of Margaret Randall) got up and said she was defunct. DR SEYMOUR considered that her death was from apoplexy brought on in all probability by intoxication. FANNY was known for her habit of occasionally drinking spirits to excess". This reference is from "Hawkesbury's Black Horse Inn" by Ken Moon. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Hello Anne, it makes it hard to find them when they change names,I have found that a lot of the Court House Registers in the Merriwa and cassilis areas are missing,also the Mudgee areas, it could be only one or two, but makes it hard to trace the families. Happy Hunting, Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "anne marie mobbs" <asnedden@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Books > Hello Carole, > > I think my family were at Collaroy between 1857- 1864. Bridget Sweeney and > James Freel were married at Black Creek in 1854. I also noticed yesterday > that the Raisbeck family were living at Cassilis. Bridget's 2nd husband was > William Raisbeck. We have a mystery of Bridget's son William Henry born > 1865 as to whether he was James Freel's son or William Raisbeck's. William > sometimes used his Freel surname, sometimes his Raisbeck one. William Henry > married Bridget Kenna who always referred to herself as Bridget Freel. > > Looking forward to hearing from you again soon. > > ANNE > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carole Douch <douch1@dodo.com.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:57 PM > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Books > > > > Hello Anne,what time span where they at Collaroy Station?. I also have > > electoral rolls on the area, 1903 to 1928 > > Carole > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "anne marie mobbs" <asnedden@bigpond.com> > > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:52 AM > > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Books > > > > > > > Hello Carol, > > > > > > I am very interested in your publications. I have a James > > > Freel/Frail/Freil/Friel who lived for a short time at Collaroy station > > with > > > wife Bridget nee Sweeney. They had 3 children, Esther Jane born in > Black > > > Creek, John Neil who was born at Collaroy Station, Isabella who as born > > near > > > Forbes. > > > > > > Do you know whether there is any mention of this family. > > > > > > A cousin of Bridget's (Ann Gillespie) married Bryan Egan who is thought > to > > > have been a clerk or book keeper at Collaroy station. Bryan went onto > > being > > > an Innkeeper and then large landowner near Dubbo. Bryan was a convict > on > > > the "Norfolk" 3. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > ANNE > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Hello Carole, I think my family were at Collaroy between 1857- 1864. Bridget Sweeney and James Freel were married at Black Creek in 1854. I also noticed yesterday that the Raisbeck family were living at Cassilis. Bridget's 2nd husband was William Raisbeck. We have a mystery of Bridget's son William Henry born 1865 as to whether he was James Freel's son or William Raisbeck's. William sometimes used his Freel surname, sometimes his Raisbeck one. William Henry married Bridget Kenna who always referred to herself as Bridget Freel. Looking forward to hearing from you again soon. ANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: Carole Douch <douch1@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Books > Hello Anne,what time span where they at Collaroy Station?. I also have > electoral rolls on the area, 1903 to 1928 > Carole > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anne marie mobbs" <asnedden@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:52 AM > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Books > > > > Hello Carol, > > > > I am very interested in your publications. I have a James > > Freel/Frail/Freil/Friel who lived for a short time at Collaroy station > with > > wife Bridget nee Sweeney. They had 3 children, Esther Jane born in Black > > Creek, John Neil who was born at Collaroy Station, Isabella who as born > near > > Forbes. > > > > Do you know whether there is any mention of this family. > > > > A cousin of Bridget's (Ann Gillespie) married Bryan Egan who is thought to > > have been a clerk or book keeper at Collaroy station. Bryan went onto > being > > an Innkeeper and then large landowner near Dubbo. Bryan was a convict on > > the "Norfolk" 3. > > > > Best wishes > > > > ANNE > >
Hello Anne,what time span where they at Collaroy Station?. I also have electoral rolls on the area, 1903 to 1928 Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "anne marie mobbs" <asnedden@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Books > Hello Carol, > > I am very interested in your publications. I have a James > Freel/Frail/Freil/Friel who lived for a short time at Collaroy station with > wife Bridget nee Sweeney. They had 3 children, Esther Jane born in Black > Creek, John Neil who was born at Collaroy Station, Isabella who as born near > Forbes. > > Do you know whether there is any mention of this family. > > A cousin of Bridget's (Ann Gillespie) married Bryan Egan who is thought to > have been a clerk or book keeper at Collaroy station. Bryan went onto being > an Innkeeper and then large landowner near Dubbo. Bryan was a convict on > the "Norfolk" 3. > > Best wishes > > ANNE > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carole Douch <douch1@dodo.com.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 7:52 PM > Subject: [H,H,HV] Books > > > > > > MERRIWA HISTORICAL SOCIETY INC. > > > > The following publications are for sale on the Merriwa, Cassilis areas. . > > > > LURE OF THE LAND by Helen Bettington $ > 12.00 > > > > CASSILIS, THE FRONTIER VILLAGE, by Frank Hayes $ 22.00 > > > > DOWN CAME A JUMBUCK . by Tess O'Brien $ 22.00 > > > > PRACTIONER,PASTORALIST & PIONEER by Sheila Galbraith $ 48.00 > > (this book about the Traill family and Collaroy Station) > > plus post and package > > contact Carole > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Hello Carol, I am very interested in your publications. I have a James Freel/Frail/Freil/Friel who lived for a short time at Collaroy station with wife Bridget nee Sweeney. They had 3 children, Esther Jane born in Black Creek, John Neil who was born at Collaroy Station, Isabella who as born near Forbes. Do you know whether there is any mention of this family. A cousin of Bridget's (Ann Gillespie) married Bryan Egan who is thought to have been a clerk or book keeper at Collaroy station. Bryan went onto being an Innkeeper and then large landowner near Dubbo. Bryan was a convict on the "Norfolk" 3. Best wishes ANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: Carole Douch <douch1@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 7:52 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Books > > MERRIWA HISTORICAL SOCIETY INC. > > The following publications are for sale on the Merriwa, Cassilis areas. . > > LURE OF THE LAND by Helen Bettington $ 12.00 > > CASSILIS, THE FRONTIER VILLAGE, by Frank Hayes $ 22.00 > > DOWN CAME A JUMBUCK . by Tess O'Brien $ 22.00 > > PRACTIONER,PASTORALIST & PIONEER by Sheila Galbraith $ 48.00 > (this book about the Traill family and Collaroy Station) > plus post and package > contact Carole > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
MERRIWA HISTORICAL SOCIETY INC. The following publications are for sale on the Merriwa, Cassilis areas. . LURE OF THE LAND by Helen Bettington $ 12.00 CASSILIS, THE FRONTIER VILLAGE, by Frank Hayes $ 22.00 DOWN CAME A JUMBUCK . by Tess O'Brien $ 22.00 PRACTIONER,PASTORALIST & PIONEER by Sheila Galbraith $ 48.00 (this book about the Traill family and Collaroy Station) plus post and package contact Carole
Hello Diane, Very interested in Windermere and Wollombi. The Kauter family, Herman Kauter and wife Catharina Korb, Christian Kauter and wife Gertrude settled in Lochinvar, were located in Windermere, Oswald Lane, etc. A sister, Catharine Kauter married Johann Naeglien and migrated in 1849 on "Parland", assigned to Jones was also in the area. They all had large families, who married into Idstein, Hickey, Boland, as well as many others. Irene
Dear Diane, Am interested in the following: Newcastle, Patrick's Plains, Phoenix Park,Raymond Terace, Rutherfood, Singleton, also Windermere. Irene Sykes
Hi To all the Listers who answered my original question. Thank you very much, I now know what I am looking at. At 09:11 PM 24/08/02 +1000, you wrote: >Hello Listers, > >I saw Jeannine's explanation of the volume numbers and would like to add a >bit to it. > >The V certainly means volume, 1838 is the year, the 806 is the number of >the entry in that year and the 22 is the >actual volume number, which would have been filmed on say film 5012 or >some such. > >The State Records' film numbers for the pre 1856 BDMs start at 5000 for >volumes 1, 2 and 3, and go on from there. There >is sometimes more than one volume on one film. > >Volume numbers up to about 122 have been filmed - the film numbers go to >about (off the top of my head here - I can't >remember the exact number of films) 5040. > > >Alison :) >Sydney Oz > >------------------------- >Jeannine wrote: > > > Hello Keith, > > > > Concerning your reference numbers 1838/V1838806 22 and your question of > > "What does the 22 stand for?" ....... > > > > The 22 refers to a reel of microfilm - Reel Number 22. If you go to a large > > library that has a Family History section, you will probably find that they > > have many such reels for early (pre 1856) NSW Parish Records for Baptisms, > > Burials and Marriages. > > > > The V1838 means "Volume (as in a book) 1838" where the 1838 is the actual > > calendar year that the entry was originally recorded in the Church Parish > > Record (Registry) book. This book was microfilmed onto Reel # 22. > ><snip> > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Regards Keith Skinner My web page - Joseph Davis / Mary Rogers and their descendants Update 11/8/2002 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~kskinner/PAGE2.HTM
Hi Diane and List, Thank you for the reply. Obviously it was a popular name for inns of that era. I still think the name of the inn owned by George Bowman, a pioneer of the Richmond area, is one of the most appropriately named. He called his inn the "Royal Arrow". And of course, his father John Bowman gave his property on the "free man's reach" the name of "Archerfield". My 3g grand aunt, Rosetta James was a servant to George Bowman in her early teens, before she married Simon Moulds. In 1820 George Bowman married Eliza Sophia Pearce, sister of Matthew Woodward Pearce (of the Kings Langsley Pearce's) who was the husband of another of my 3g grand aunts, Mary Ann Brien. But I have taken this well and truly off the original topic. Regards, Russell > -----Original Message----- > From: Diane [mailto:dianep@optushome.com.au] > Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2002 11:11 AM > To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Inn - Bird in the Hand > > > > Hi Russell and listers, > > My understanding is that Hugh KELLY's "Bird in Hand", formerly > located on the corner of Wrights and Windsor Roads (Kellyville), > was a different establishment to that of Daniel SMALLWOOD's > "Bird in Hand" at Pitt Town. > > > Regards, > Diane > > >
Hello Listers, I saw Jeannine's explanation of the volume numbers and would like to add a bit to it. The V certainly means volume, 1838 is the year, the 806 is the number of the entry in that year and the 22 is the actual volume number, which would have been filmed on say film 5012 or some such. The State Records' film numbers for the pre 1856 BDMs start at 5000 for volumes 1, 2 and 3, and go on from there. There is sometimes more than one volume on one film. Volume numbers up to about 122 have been filmed - the film numbers go to about (off the top of my head here - I can't remember the exact number of films) 5040. Alison :) Sydney Oz ------------------------- Jeannine wrote: > Hello Keith, > > Concerning your reference numbers 1838/V1838806 22 and your question of > "What does the 22 stand for?" ....... > > The 22 refers to a reel of microfilm - Reel Number 22. If you go to a large > library that has a Family History section, you will probably find that they > have many such reels for early (pre 1856) NSW Parish Records for Baptisms, > Burials and Marriages. > > The V1838 means "Volume (as in a book) 1838" where the 1838 is the actual > calendar year that the entry was originally recorded in the Church Parish > Record (Registry) book. This book was microfilmed onto Reel # 22. <snip>
Thanks Diane, yes, that's the one. I was wondering what years it went up to - I'll email them and find out. Cheers Jan At 05:32 PM 8/24/2002 +1000, you wrote: > >Hi Jan, > >If you are talking about the Maitland City Council's Burial Register >(on CD), then it covers the following cemeteries; Morpeth, Campbell's >Hill, East Maitland, Rutherford, Hiland Crescent, Oswald, Jewish (Louth >Park), Glebe Gully (St. Peters) and Oakhampton. As far as I know, their >email contact is mfhc@kooee.com.au > > > >Diane >