Dear Alan and List, I have a Sarah Isabella JOHNSTON who married Joseph NASH 18th January 1843 at Presbyterian St Andrew's Church by the Rev. John McGarvie. The witnesses were George Cannes and Elizabeth* Nash. (Marriage Certificate No. 1632 Vol; 76) Both signed X their mark. They lived at Pyrmont >From Joseph Nash Death Cert.1893/000094 He married at 21 Occupation Boatman Religion Presbyterian Born in Sydney Joseph and Sarah had 10 children - Rachael (Clarke), William, Sarah (Palmer), Joseph, Janet (Wise), Alfred, Charles, Albert, and 1 male and 1 female dec. His father was William Nash (Occ. Farmer)and mother Ann (their mar. Cert. no 1090 Vol 3A) William NASH to Ann HUBBARD 7th August 1810 St. Matthew's Windsor by Banns >From the 1828 Census - William NASH per "Barwell" 1797, age 45, Free by Serv., Sent 7 years. His wife Ann, Born Colony age 38 Sarah 15, William 11, Joseph 6, Charles 5, and Elizabeth* 2 living at Lower Portland Head. Sarah Johnston remains elusive. Is anyone researching this family? Regards Lyn

Hi Alan, No connections ... but according to a "Hawkesbury Journey" [D.G. Bowd], Richard RIDGE arrived per "Atlantic" 1791, m. Margaret FORRESTER in 1809, and had twelve children. By 1828, had 270 acres and lived at Portland Head. Children shown in the 1828 Census include : Thomas (17), Richard (15), John (13), Isabella (11), Robert (9), Martha (7), William (2) and Mary Ann (3 months). Hope this helps a little .... Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Eade" <Alan.Eade@bigpond.com> Subject: [H,H,HV] RIDGE - Richmond > I have a Robert Ridge born 1819 Sackville Reach, he married Sarah > Johnston, born 1822 ? - > Robert's parent's were Richard RIDGE and Mary FORSTER / > FORRESTER - married 1809 Windsor > Sarah's parent's were John JOHNSTON and Mary MOORE - married > 1811 Sydney > Can anyone advise me if they are researching this family, and > especially if any of them were transported. There was a convict called > Richard Blythe Ridge, but I am unsure if this is the same person as > above. > Regards Alan

I have a Robert Ridge born 1819 Sackville Reach, he married Sarah Johnston, born 1822 ? - Robert's parent's were Richard RIDGE and Mary FORSTER / FORRESTER - married 1809 Windsor Sarah's parent's were John JOHNSTON and Mary MOORE - married 1811 Sydney Can anyone advise me if they are researching this family, and especially if any of them were transported. There was a convict called Richard Blythe Ridge, but I am unsure if this is the same person as above. Regards Alan Alan.Eade@bigpond.com Alan Eade

-------Original Message------- Hello Ray, My family is Edwin John Hawkins b: 1853 (Portsmouth, England), who is listed in the NSW BDM as Edward he married Emma Legge (who I have just discovered was actually Emma Sadler) in 1879 in Newcastle. They had 12 children as follows Edith May b:1878 Maria b:1881 d: 1885 Ida b: 1883 Edwin b:1885 Lillian b: 1887 Ivy b: 1889 Richard b: 1891 William b: 1894 Harold b: 1897 d: 1897 Percy b: 1899 d: 1899 Elsie b: 1900 Lola b: 1903 I am sure all these are his, as they are all listed on their death certificates. When I first started trying to track them down it was very confusing because his name kept on changing was Edwin to Edward and back. I have not idea why. I do think there was another family of Hawkins in Wickham where they lived, I do not know if there was a connection yet. I have not been successful in tracking down his entry into Australia yet, but I estimate it to be around 1875 to 1878. I hope this helps. I just posted those names as I had just discovered a whole new branch to the family. Thanking you Lesley From: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, November 09, 2002 19:41:02 To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Hawkins, Sadler, Legge, Pellow Hello Lesley. For quite a while I have been trying to build up a database on everyone of the HAWKINS name in NSW -- mainly by using the BD&M indexes. Consequently, I went to my workings after reading your posting (which I have left in its entirety below for you to refer to), and I became quite confused. My database shows a marriage in 1879 of an Edwd J. HAWKINS to Emma LEGGE. Please note that this gives his name in an abbreviated form as Edward -- and NOT as Edwin. It could be that this is a transcription error. However the name Edward seems to be confirmed when the Index shows in 1887 the birth of Lilian C. HAWKINS, and in 1900 the birth of Elsie G. HAWKINS -- both to "Edward J" and Emma HAWKINS. Now, the database also shows entries for Edwin J. HAWKINS and Emma, as parents of 9 children (with a couple of names which you don't give in your list). Thanks in advance should you take the trouble to reply. Regards: ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley" <Lcash@bigpond.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Hawkins, Sadler, Legge, Pellow > Hello everyone, > I hope you can help me, I have discovered my ggg grandmother Sarah Taylor > married Richard Sadler in 1849 Adelaide, SA. Could any one help with a > mailing list address in SA. > >> ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Hewett" <ljhewett@ihug.co.nz> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: BLUNDELL, NEWCASTLE 1930's > Any lister with links/knowledge of Una Alison Blundell, m.Newcastle > 1937, Ronald Keith Trathern? Les and Gloria, Napier, NZ.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Hewett" <ljhewett@ihug.co.nz> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: KELLY, WICKHAM/NEWCASTLE > Any lister with links/knowledge of John Joseph Kelly, b. Wickham > 1901, son of John and Mary? Les and Gloria, Napier, NZ.

Hello Lesley. For quite a while I have been trying to build up a database on everyone of the HAWKINS name in NSW -- mainly by using the BD&M indexes. Consequently, I went to my workings after reading your posting (which I have left in its entirety below for you to refer to), and I became quite confused. My database shows a marriage in 1879 of an Edwd J. HAWKINS to Emma LEGGE. Please note that this gives his name in an abbreviated form as Edward -- and NOT as Edwin. It could be that this is a transcription error. However the name Edward seems to be confirmed when the Index shows in 1887 the birth of Lilian C. HAWKINS, and in 1900 the birth of Elsie G. HAWKINS -- both to "Edward J" and Emma HAWKINS. Now, the database also shows entries for Edwin J. HAWKINS and Emma, as parents of 9 children (with a couple of names which you don't give in your list). So this leads me to ask whether your information is mainly or solely obtained from reading the BD&M indexes, or mainly from an independent family source? Sadly, I do not have much further information to assist you, but I'd be grateful to have this cleared up, as I had them listed as two distinct families. Thanks in advance should you take the trouble to reply. Regards: ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley" <Lcash@bigpond.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Hawkins, Sadler, Legge, Pellow > Hello everyone, > I hope you can help me, I have discovered my ggg grandmother Sarah Taylor > married Richard Sadler in 1849 Adelaide, SA. Could any one help with a > mailing list address in SA. > > My interests are as follows: > William Sadler b: 1850 (Adelaide) m: Caroline Deas 1871 (Newcastle) > children: William b: 1871 m: Anora Johns 1891 (Newcastle) > Caroline b: 1878 m: Thomas Oughton 1896 (Newcastle) > Alice b: 1881 m: Albert Martin 1907 (Newcastle) > Harry b: 1884 m: Pearl Overdon 1908 (Newcastle) > Stella b: 1886 m: Frank Murray 1907 (Newcastle) > Sylvia b: 1889 > > Emma Sadler/ Legge b: 1858 (Wollongong) m: Edwin J Hawkins 1879 (Newcastle) > children: Edith b: 1878 m: George Schneider 1909, > Ida b: 1883 m: Joseph Miller 1909 (Newcastle), > Edwin b: 1885 m: Jane Paton 1911 (Newcastle) + m: Beatrice Henderson 1916 > (Hornsby) > Lillian b: 1887 m: Walter Hunter 1910 (Newcastle) > Ivy b: 1889 m: Sidney Sadleir 1919 (Sydney) > William b:1894 m: Florence Harvey 1911 (Newcastle) + Ilma Davidson 1919 > (Newcastle) + Elizabeth James 1939 (Newcastle) > Elsie b: 1900 m: Alexis Teterin 1919 (Newcastle) > Lola b: 1903 m: Reginald Lowes (Newcastle) > > Elsie Legge b: 1875 m: George Pellow 1893 (Newcastle) > children: Arthur b: 1893 > Lillian b: 1895 m: Walter Pankhurst 1921 (Sydney) > Doris b: 1904 m: James Crabtree 1925 (Sydney)

Hi all, My gg grand uncle John James married Henrietta Ashton, daughter of William and Charlotte Ashton in Parramatta in 1859. I am seeking any information on the Ashton family who were living in Baulkham Hills. There is a reference to an Ashton & Co, Copper-plate printers, Sydney in the Parramatta Chronicle of 30 Dec 1843 and I wondered if there was a relationship. Regards, Russell Orchard

Sent to the wrong address ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <jhhh@tpg.com.au> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: Butler history > I am wondering if anyone could help me with the family of James > BUTLER he married Emily BLACKWELL 9th April 1875 at Newcastle > Registry. > His father before him James Butler married Lucy Spinks. > Thanking you > Judith > at jhhh@tpg.com.au

That's great Diane, Trevor is a fabulous speaker, and a most enthusiastic historian. Have just recently heard him speak on Matthew Flinders search for the inland sea. Trevor and his wife Bev, were lucky to be part of the reinactment. I'll be there with my family photos and family tree. Trevor is also keen on finding old photos of families and the district, to help with his displays, and genealogy research with the Dural and District Historical Society. The aim of the society is to collate for future generations to come. Thankyou once again Diane for bringing it to everyone's notice. A real treat is in store for us. ANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] People & Places : A History of the Dural District > Hi all, > > For anyone who may be interested ... > > Baulkham Hills Shire Library will hold "People & Places : > A History of the Dural District" with Trevor Patrick, local > historian and author of "Street Names of Pennant Hills". > > When : Wednesday, 13th November > Where : Dural Library, Pellitt Lane, Dural > Time : 7.30 pm. > > For bookings, or further details, phone 9651-2627 > (office hours I would presume, altho it doesn't say) > > > > Cheers, > Diane > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all, For anyone who may be interested ... Baulkham Hills Shire Library will hold "People & Places : A History of the Dural District" with Trevor Patrick, local historian and author of "Street Names of Pennant Hills". When : Wednesday, 13th November Where : Dural Library, Pellitt Lane, Dural Time : 7.30 pm. For bookings, or further details, phone 9651-2627 (office hours I would presume, altho it doesn't say) Cheers, Diane

Hi everyone, For any listers who have relatives who served in WW2, the Nominal Roll is now up and running at http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/ One to add to your 'favourites' ... Diane

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Gow" <rgow@ceinternet.com.au> Subject: Parramatta Chronicle newspaper 1843-45 - Index > Rod and Wendy Gow have released an index of court cases, > births, deaths, marriages, inquests, insolvencies, Tickets of Leave etc. > extracted from the Parramatta Chronicle and Cumberland Advertiser > Newspaper 1843-1845, with reports not just from Parramatta, Sydney > and the Hawkesbury, but from Port Phillip to Moreton Bay and from > South Australia to VDL. Court case reports from Berrima, Goulburn > and Newcastle as well as many mentions of inmates of the Female > Factory. > The Parramatta Chronicle is available for viewing on the internet. Armed > with this index, it is a very simple task to download the particular > page of the newspaper that you require and read it at your leisure > either on or off line. The downloads are read via Acrobat Reader, which > is also available free for download on the internet. > The web address of the newspaper on the internet is .... > <http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/bfull/14403439_bfull.html> > This newspaper is also available for viewing at many libraries and > societies in micro film format. > If you would like a flyer on this index just drop us a postal (snail > mail) address and we will pop one in the mail. The index, contains over > 7000 entries, on 156 A4 pages, and retails at $30 (postage free within > Australia). > If you would like us to look up a couple of surnames to see if they get > a mention just send us an e-mail and we will be pleased to assist. > Best wishes, > Rod & Wendy Gow > rgow@ceinternet.com.au

Similar to my other posting; but a different town. ray ----- Original Message ----- From: <peterpjw@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-GEN-EVENTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: [[A-G-E]] Weston Pioneer Register > Greetings All > > Weston is located on the South Maitland Coalfield, Hunter Valley, NSW. > > This is a reminder that entries for the historical register close 30 > November 2002. > > For further information, please visit http://www.pjwfcs.com/weston.html > > It would be appreciated if members of local family history societies could > inform their membership. > > Thank you. > > Peter J Williams > Largs NSW Australia > > > ==== AUS-GEN-EVENTS Mailing List ==== > What's on and What's new > Australia Wide > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This might interest listers. ray ----- Original Message ----- From: <peterpjw@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-GEN-EVENTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:19 PM Subject: [[A-G-E]] Abermain Pioneer Register > Greetings All > > Abermain is located on the South Maitland Coalfield, Hunter Valley, NSW. > > This is a reminder that entries for the centenary historical register close > 30 November 2002. > > For further information, please visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~nswahps > > It would be appreciated if members of local family history societies could > inform their membership. > > Thank you. > > Peter J Williams > Largs NSW Australia > > > ==== AUS-GEN-EVENTS Mailing List ==== > What's on and What's new > Australia Wide > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi again Mike. Yes I always confuse the 6th May with August because of a family date. Old age I suppose.6th May is correct. As if I haven't written enough about it, you think it would be burned into my brain. I have completed the work. I have it available on CD @ $25 posted. it is about 200 A4 pages. Or a B/W book $25 plus about $6 postage. I think you might be interested in my speculation re Andrew. It takes the story from the building of the ship, the trip, the court case, the fire and the settlement of the men in NSW. If you are interested; Send cheque to W. Archbold, POB 7 Yagoona, 2199. Regards Bill Archbold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Harvey" <mikeh@bravo.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Three Bees > Hello Bill, > > You wrote, > > > Any know men off the "Three Bees" arrived 6th August 1814 in your lines. > > I have the arrival of this ship as 06.05.1814. Correct me if I'm wrong. > > My man Andrew CALLAGHAN was one of the more 'colourful' characters > on board this unfortunate ship. > I have more on this CALLAGHAN if you want it. > > >From my notes file: > > Arrived in Australia on ship "Three Bees" 6/5/1814 as a convict. > Ships Master was John WALLIS. > Port of departure: Falmouth. > TRIAL: County Down March 1813 > Term: 7 Years > Native place: Down > Occupation: Tailor. > Age: 30 > Height: 5'5½" > Complexion ruddy,Hair black,Eyes hazel. > Wounded in the left hand by a musket shot, two middle fingers fused. > Ticket of Leave 33/552 10th Sept.1833 > Source:"Names and Physical Description of Convicts --- 1814" > James Mc Clelland ISBN 0 908492 32 4 > > The following was taken from " Colonial Secretary Papers 1788 - 1825" > > CALLAGHAN, Andrew. Per "Three Bees",1814 > 1814 May 11 On list of convicts disembarked from the "Three Bees" > & forwarded to Windsor for distribution (Reel 6004;4/3493 > p165) > > If I remember correctly, this ship was destroyed by fire in Sydney Cove in > the latter part of May or early June 1814. Maiden voyage too, I understand. > Plenty of coverage in the Sydney Gazette at the time, as you would know. > How goes your research on these convicts from this ship? > You have been at it for quite some time now haven't you? > > If you can add to or correct any of the above, I would be grateful. > > Regards, > Mike Harvey > Newcastle NSW > mikeh@bravo.net.au > ne probas spurii te in pulverem conterere > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear Lyn, Thanks for the e-mail re the Parramatta Chronicle and Cumberland Advertiser newspaper index. This newspaper is available on the internet. The web address is .... <http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/bfull/14403439_bfull.html> Armed with the index it is an easy job to locate the articles. We had a quick look through the index with the following results... Kirk 7 entries Tuckwell 5 entries Lyons 28 entries Ellison 11 entries Scott 7 entries of course we have no idea if any are in the families you are researching, although being ex Castle Hill ourselves the Tuckwells are probably yours - although there are some in North Colo, mentioned in the index charged with killing a heifer and acquitted. A couple of the entries for Tuckwell are ... 2 March 1844 page 2 column 3 2 March 1844 page 3 column 2 28 June 1845 page 2 column 3 Use the net address above and download the file and save it, rather than reading it on line - it is quicker - it takes about 3 minutes and the files are about 900 k, this is done via Acrobat Reader. If you dont have Acrobat Reader it is also available free on the net. The index will only be available directly through us, if you would like a flyer, e-mail us a postal (snail mail) address and we will pop one out to you. When we get the indexes back from the printers we will let you know via e-mail. Just for interest, many of the entries relate to country areas, not just Sydney, Parramatta and the Hawkesbury. Articles from Moreton Bay to Port Phillip and South Aust to VDL. Many court cases from Berrima and Goulburn and many mentions of the inmates of the Female Factory etc. Hope the above is of interest, Lyn. Best wishes, Rod & Wendy Gow "lynette.muir" wrote: > Dear Rod > Great news, where will the index to the Parramatta Chronicle and Cumberland > Advertiser be available? I am looking for Kirk, Tuckwell, Lyons Aul; Ellison > and Scott. > Regards Lyn

Hello Bill, You wrote, > Any know men off the "Three Bees" arrived 6th August 1814 in your lines. I have the arrival of this ship as 06.05.1814. Correct me if I'm wrong. My man Andrew CALLAGHAN was one of the more 'colourful' characters on board this unfortunate ship. I have more on this CALLAGHAN if you want it. From my notes file: Arrived in Australia on ship "Three Bees" 6/5/1814 as a convict. Ships Master was John WALLIS. Port of departure: Falmouth. TRIAL: County Down March 1813 Term: 7 Years Native place: Down Occupation: Tailor. Age: 30 Height: 5'5½" Complexion ruddy,Hair black,Eyes hazel. Wounded in the left hand by a musket shot, two middle fingers fused. Ticket of Leave 33/552 10th Sept.1833 Source:"Names and Physical Description of Convicts --- 1814" James Mc Clelland ISBN 0 908492 32 4 The following was taken from " Colonial Secretary Papers 1788 - 1825" CALLAGHAN, Andrew. Per "Three Bees",1814 1814 May 11 On list of convicts disembarked from the "Three Bees" & forwarded to Windsor for distribution (Reel 6004;4/3493 p165) If I remember correctly, this ship was destroyed by fire in Sydney Cove in the latter part of May or early June 1814. Maiden voyage too, I understand. Plenty of coverage in the Sydney Gazette at the time, as you would know. How goes your research on these convicts from this ship? You have been at it for quite some time now haven't you? If you can add to or correct any of the above, I would be grateful. Regards, Mike Harvey Newcastle NSW mikeh@bravo.net.au ne probas spurii te in pulverem conterere

Dear Phyllis, Noticed your e-mail re HAYMAN and SULLIVAN, is the Ellen Sullivan a convict ? We are in the process of publishing an index to the Parramatta Chronicle and Cumberland Advertiser 1843-1845 (should be released in the next week), and there is an Ellen Sullivan who arrived on the ship C. Forbes, is Bond and has a Ticket of Leave and at the Femaile Factory - could she be the one you are researching ? Also in another newspaper index we have published the Windsor & Richmond Gazette 1916-1920 index to births deaths marriages inquests obituaries probates etc, there are mentions of the following HAYMAN names ... Cecil - married in 1918 in Sydney of Grose Vale David - probate in 1919 of Upper Colo Mary Jane (Maria) - probate in 1916 of Grose Vale Rudolph - married n 1918 in Sydney of Grose Vale Hope the above is of interest, Phyllis phyllisf@ozemail.com.au wrote: > I am Trying to find information on James Hayman who came to Australia as a convict in 1837 > James married Ellen Sullivan in Castle Hill or Dural in 1848 > Both are buried in Pitt Town cemetery > They had 5 children all in the Baulkham hills area > but at some time moved to the Windsor area > Wondering if anyone has any information on this family > Regards Phyllis

Hi Phyllis, You may already have this ? but in case not .... There is a James HAYMAN listed in the 1837 muster who arrived per 'Prince George' in 1837, aged 33, with the remark "In Hospital". That particular James HAYMAN received a TOL in 1842, and a COF in 1843, as shown on the SR site. If you get a copy of his Indent, and perhaps a copy of his TOL & COF, it may give you some more leads. Depends on "what" info you are looking for, before or after arrival ? At the time two of their children were baptised, (George in 1849 and Jane in 1850), James was a farmer living at Baulkham Hills. All the best, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: <phyllisf@ozemail.com.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] HAYMAN > I am Trying to find information on James Hayman who came to > Australia as a convict in 1837 > James married Ellen Sullivan in Castle Hill or Dural in 1848 > Both are buried in Pitt Town cemetery > They had 5 children all in the Baulkham hills area > but at some time moved to the Windsor area > Wondering if anyone has any information on this family > Regards Phyllis