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There is one in Ashfield, three stations from Strathfield. ----------------------------------------------- Regards Betty Candy Sydney, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonza Sheila" <bonzasheila@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 9:15 AM Subject: [H,H,HV] Totally stumped!! Please read! > Hi Listers, > I offered to help a friend get started on her family trees and have already > reached a brick wall. This may be related to incorrect information, so I > thought I would see if anyone on the list could assist. > Has anyone heard of a home for children in the Strathfield,Sydney? > This home would have existed in the early 1900's. Was it named Halloween or > Dalwood? Was there a childrens home in the inner west? > Hope someone can assist > Regards > Lesley > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Listers, I offered to help a friend get started on her family trees and have already reached a brick wall. This may be related to incorrect information, so I thought I would see if anyone on the list could assist. Has anyone heard of a home for children in the Strathfield,Sydney? This home would have existed in the early 1900's. Was it named Halloween or Dalwood? Was there a childrens home in the inner west? Hope someone can assist Regards Lesley _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Henry Bowerman owned a large estate at Carlingford in the 1820s. It was called Marion. He died in 1839, leaving a wife and young family. There may be a connection. Details with some source suggestions are in our book - Kass, Liston & McClymont, Parramatta a Past Revealed, p.173 (available from Parramatta library). Sherwood is the modern area of Holroyd (Merrylands-Prospect vicinity). Carol >X-Message: #1 >Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:57:31 +1100 >From: "Mick & Maria Thomas" <maria28@myaccess.com.au> >To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [H,H,HV] BOWERMAN >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Hi >I hope I'm on the right list. > >I have a Sarah BOWERMAN b Carlingford giving birth to Ethel Maud BOWERMAN >b1896 Sherwood. Ethel's birth certificate states that BOWERMAN is the >family name and the mothers maiden name. > >Ethel's marriage certificate has a 'William CARSON' giving permission as >guardian. A P.BOWERMAN was witness to the marriage. > >I can find no information on Sarah, and who was William CARSON? > >Any help would be much appreciated. >Maria >Central Coast, NSW >Australia > >______________________________ > Associate Professor Carol Liston Acting Head of School of Humanities Historian and Heritage Consultant Editor, Journal of the Royal Australian Historical Society School of Humanities University of Western Sydney - Penrith Campus Locked Bag 1797 PENRITH SOUTH DC NSW 1797 Phone (with voicemail) 02-9678-7358 Fax: 02-9678-7334 Office Location: AD1.18 Werrington North

Hello Diane I am sorry to bother you with my inquiry, but I was unsure what to do. Could you please advise me on how to unsubscribe from my old email address and to submit my new email address. My new email address is lcash@optusnet com.au Thanking you Lesley Cash

Thanks for the tip Diane. At this point I'm not certain if there is or is not a connection. So putting this site in Favourites for future reference till I can clarify. Maria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane" <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] BOWERMAN > > Hi Maria, > > This page (which may be a red herring & totally unrelated) > http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/Database/IND0011.html#I30797 > has a few BOWERMAN's with Carlingford connections ... > > > Cheers, > Diane > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mick & Maria Thomas" <maria28@myaccess.com.au> > Subject: [H,H,HV] BOWERMAN > > > > Hi > > I hope I'm on the right list. > > I have a Sarah BOWERMAN b Carlingford giving birth to Ethel Maud > > BOWERMAN b1896 Sherwood. Ethel's birth certificate states that > > BOWERMAN is the family name and the mothers maiden name. > > Ethel's marriage certificate has a 'William CARSON' giving permission > > as guardian. A P.BOWERMAN was witness to the marriage. > > I can find no information on Sarah, and who was William CARSON? > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Maria > > Central Coast, NSW > > Australia > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Maria, This page (which may be a red herring & totally unrelated) http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/Database/IND0011.html#I30797 has a few BOWERMAN's with Carlingford connections ... Cheers, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mick & Maria Thomas" <maria28@myaccess.com.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] BOWERMAN > Hi > I hope I'm on the right list. > I have a Sarah BOWERMAN b Carlingford giving birth to Ethel Maud > BOWERMAN b1896 Sherwood. Ethel's birth certificate states that > BOWERMAN is the family name and the mothers maiden name. > Ethel's marriage certificate has a 'William CARSON' giving permission > as guardian. A P.BOWERMAN was witness to the marriage. > I can find no information on Sarah, and who was William CARSON? > Any help would be much appreciated. > Maria > Central Coast, NSW > Australia

Hi I hope I'm on the right list. I have a Sarah BOWERMAN b Carlingford giving birth to Ethel Maud BOWERMAN b1896 Sherwood. Ethel's birth certificate states that BOWERMAN is the family name and the mothers maiden name. Ethel's marriage certificate has a 'William CARSON' giving permission as guardian. A P.BOWERMAN was witness to the marriage. I can find no information on Sarah, and who was William CARSON? Any help would be much appreciated. Maria Central Coast, NSW Australia

----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Hewett" <ljhewett@ihug.co.nz> Subject: CLARKE, DUNGOG, 1841 > Any lister with knowledge of Thomas Clarke, wife and two children; > 1841 census, Dungog. NFK. > Les and Gloria, Napier, New Zealand.

Hi Carol I have Fogarty and Corbett in my family tree from around NSW. Would be happy to check further details with you, Lyn Fogarty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Dale" <coradsl@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:32 AM Subject: [H,H,HV] New Subscriber - Fogarty and related families > Dear List, > > Just introducing myself. I am researching the Fogarty family of Nundle and > related (and not so related families) in the Hunter Valley area. I am > interested in the history of areas such as Nundle, Scone, Moonan Flat and > Brook, Gundy. I have over 6000 names of my database and over 300 grave > photos from around the area. My main names are Fogarty, Pankhurst, > Jackson. Am also particularly interested in Collison, Cone, Pinkerton, > Corbett, Cundy, Morrison, Heyman, Power, Jones, Parker etc etc. > > Looking forward to being able to contribute > > Carol Dale > > ______________________________

Dear Carol, I am also researching PANKHURST. Can you give me some more details off list. Regards, Annie QLD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Dale" <coradsl@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:32 AM Subject: [H,H,HV] New Subscriber - Fogarty and related families > Dear List, > > Just introducing myself. I am researching the Fogarty family of Nundle and > related (and not so related families) in the Hunter Valley area. I am > interested in the history of areas such as Nundle, Scone, Moonan Flat and > Brook, Gundy. I have over 6000 names of my database and over 300 grave > photos from around the area. My main names are Fogarty, Pankhurst, > Jackson. Am also particularly interested in Collison, Cone, Pinkerton, > Corbett, Cundy, Morrison, Heyman, Power, Jones, Parker etc etc. > > Looking forward to being able to contribute > > Carol Dale > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Carol, I have Jackson and Jones attached to my family. Could you give me a little more detail please. Would be happy to swap information. ANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Dale <coradsl@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:32 AM Subject: [H,H,HV] New Subscriber - Fogarty and related families > Dear List, > > Just introducing myself. I am researching the Fogarty family of Nundle and > related (and not so related families) in the Hunter Valley area. I am > interested in the history of areas such as Nundle, Scone, Moonan Flat and > Brook, Gundy. I have over 6000 names of my database and over 300 grave > photos from around the area. My main names are Fogarty, Pankhurst, > Jackson. Am also particularly interested in Collison, Cone, Pinkerton, > Corbett, Cundy, Morrison, Heyman, Power, Jones, Parker etc etc. > > Looking forward to being able to contribute > > Carol Dale > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear List, Just introducing myself. I am researching the Fogarty family of Nundle and related (and not so related families) in the Hunter Valley area. I am interested in the history of areas such as Nundle, Scone, Moonan Flat and Brook, Gundy. I have over 6000 names of my database and over 300 grave photos from around the area. My main names are Fogarty, Pankhurst, Jackson. Am also particularly interested in Collison, Cone, Pinkerton, Corbett, Cundy, Morrison, Heyman, Power, Jones, Parker etc etc. Looking forward to being able to contribute Carol Dale

Dear Carolyn, I have delved back into the family tree of Gary Standen who is also a Hall descendant. His family tree states that John born 14.1.1842 to parents John Hall and Sarah Farding married Bridget Sweeney in 1868 at Patrick Plains. I have that transcription for reference No 3160. Parents not listed for either John or Bridget, both living at Singleton. Witnesses Thomas and Margaret Rodgers. married 30.12.1868. Gary states that John died on 25.1.1916, and was buried on 26.1.1916. He does not give references although he did for the marriage. I have found ref no 13885. John Hall died 1916, son of John and Sarah at Singleton. Ref No 17053 Bridget Hall, died 1917 at Inverell, Father Sweeney, aged 80 years. Hope this is of help to you. Have you had any discoveries lately? Best wishes ANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Fitzgerald <carolynf@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] WW1 record mystery > No Anne Marie - I have not found the death for John Hall. There seems to > be so many of them and as it is not my direct line I have put it aside for > the time being, but I would love to clear it all up. > I think the date of 1916 that I had belongs to John Hall's (b 1819) son who > was born 1842 (and married?? Briget Sweeny). > > What do you have as there death dates??? > > Carolyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anne marie mobbs" <asnedden@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:14 PM > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] WW1 record mystery > > > > Hello Carolyn, > > > > I am just going through my old emails and saw this. Have you been able to > > find the death of Bridget Hall nee Sweeney? and confirmed the death date > of > > both John Halls? > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you soon > > > > ANNE > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Carolyn Fitzgerald <carolynf@bigpond.com> > > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:37 PM > > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] WW1 record mystery > > > > > > > Hi Jan, > > > If you do find a death date for this John Hall can you let me know. I > > have > > > never found the correct one and there are quite a few that could be him > > > around the Newcastle area. All have one parent incorrect etc. and short > > of > > > getting each one I haven't had any luck. > > > I did have a date of 25th Jan 1916 - but I think this is his son John > Hall > > > (married Bridget Sweeney I think). > > > I have a little on the family of John Hall/Sarah Farding/Margaret > McLeod > > > but I'am sure you have it as well. Let me know if I can assist. > > > Funny about the Nick Vine Hall - hope you find something interesting, > but > > I > > > think he could belong to another family. > > > > > > Carolyn > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jan Glasby" <jan.glasby@hawkerc.act.edu.au> > > > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:44 AM > > > Subject: [H,H,HV] WW1 record mystery > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > In chasing up the family of John HALL and his two wives, Sarah FARDING > > and > > > > Margaret MCLEOD, I have been reading the World War 1 record of Andrew > > > > Robert HALL online at the National Archives, trying to see if he fits > in > > > > with my info. On Page 38 which is the Attestation Paper, it says at > the > > > > top, "I certify that this is a true copy, N. Vine HALL". I've never > come > > > > across this before and wondered why it was there. One possibility, I > > > guess, > > > > is that Nick Vine HALL is related, but why would he sign the paper in > > the > > > > Archives files? > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

No Anne Marie - I have not found the death for John Hall. There seems to be so many of them and as it is not my direct line I have put it aside for the time being, but I would love to clear it all up. I think the date of 1916 that I had belongs to John Hall's (b 1819) son who was born 1842 (and married?? Briget Sweeny). What do you have as there death dates??? Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "anne marie mobbs" <asnedden@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] WW1 record mystery > Hello Carolyn, > > I am just going through my old emails and saw this. Have you been able to > find the death of Bridget Hall nee Sweeney? and confirmed the death date of > both John Halls? > > Looking forward to hearing from you soon > > ANNE > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carolyn Fitzgerald <carolynf@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] WW1 record mystery > > > > Hi Jan, > > If you do find a death date for this John Hall can you let me know. I > have > > never found the correct one and there are quite a few that could be him > > around the Newcastle area. All have one parent incorrect etc. and short > of > > getting each one I haven't had any luck. > > I did have a date of 25th Jan 1916 - but I think this is his son John Hall > > (married Bridget Sweeney I think). > > I have a little on the family of John Hall/Sarah Farding/Margaret McLeod > > but I'am sure you have it as well. Let me know if I can assist. > > Funny about the Nick Vine Hall - hope you find something interesting, but > I > > think he could belong to another family. > > > > Carolyn > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jan Glasby" <jan.glasby@hawkerc.act.edu.au> > > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:44 AM > > Subject: [H,H,HV] WW1 record mystery > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > In chasing up the family of John HALL and his two wives, Sarah FARDING > and > > > Margaret MCLEOD, I have been reading the World War 1 record of Andrew > > > Robert HALL online at the National Archives, trying to see if he fits in > > > with my info. On Page 38 which is the Attestation Paper, it says at the > > > top, "I certify that this is a true copy, N. Vine HALL". I've never come > > > across this before and wondered why it was there. One possibility, I > > guess, > > > is that Nick Vine HALL is related, but why would he sign the paper in > the > > > Archives files? > > > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > Cheers > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Ray In reply to you inquiry, what I have found out so far. Edwin John Hawkins- born Sept. 1853 in Portsea UK.( I found the listing with ref number to apply for certificate) He died 12-7-1925 and is buried at Sandgate Cemetery with Emma, who died 15-8-1923. His parents were Edwin J Hawkins (Quarter Master in the Navy) and Maria Eales married 1-10-1848 at St. Mary's Portsea (www.familysearch.org). Apparently Portsmouth and Portsea and next to each other or there was a name change. It has not been easy tracking down Emma, Mother: Sarah Taylor b: abt. 1835 Bombay, India, somehow ended up in SA and at 15 years of age 23-9-1849 married Richard Sadler in Adelaide SA. They had one son William born 1850, and I think I have found 3 girls born 1853 and 1856 in Wollongong NSW. I cannot find the birth of Emma so maybe she wasn't registered!!!!!! Sarah with Samuel Benjamin Legge 1863 -1884 Samuel died 1884 buried Sandgate, Sarah then married Charles Sims 1886 she died 1895 and was buried with Samuel at Sandgate. Edith May was my ggrandmother, on all the certificates I have she was brought up as a Hawkins, on the other birth certificates of the siblings they changed the date of their marriage to 1878? Edwin John Hawkins b: 1885 I think he was married twice 1911 at Wickham to Jane M Paton, then in 1917 to Beatrice Henderson at Hornsby.BDM records. He was living at 66 Ridge St, Merewether in 1925 (father's death cert.) and at 112 Ridge St, Merewether in 1952 when he died.(CD from Newcastle Library). I also have William Hawkins married 3 times Florence E Harvey 1911, Ilma J Davidson 1919 at Hamilton and Elizabeth James 1939 at Wickham, he had 8 children. I hope this helps you Lesley

Hello Carolyn, I am just going through my old emails and saw this. Have you been able to find the death of Bridget Hall nee Sweeney? and confirmed the death date of both John Halls? Looking forward to hearing from you soon ANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Fitzgerald <carolynf@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] WW1 record mystery > Hi Jan, > If you do find a death date for this John Hall can you let me know. I have > never found the correct one and there are quite a few that could be him > around the Newcastle area. All have one parent incorrect etc. and short of > getting each one I haven't had any luck. > I did have a date of 25th Jan 1916 - but I think this is his son John Hall > (married Bridget Sweeney I think). > I have a little on the family of John Hall/Sarah Farding/Margaret McLeod > but I'am sure you have it as well. Let me know if I can assist. > Funny about the Nick Vine Hall - hope you find something interesting, but I > think he could belong to another family. > > Carolyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Glasby" <jan.glasby@hawkerc.act.edu.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:44 AM > Subject: [H,H,HV] WW1 record mystery > > > > Hi all, > > > > In chasing up the family of John HALL and his two wives, Sarah FARDING and > > Margaret MCLEOD, I have been reading the World War 1 record of Andrew > > Robert HALL online at the National Archives, trying to see if he fits in > > with my info. On Page 38 which is the Attestation Paper, it says at the > > top, "I certify that this is a true copy, N. Vine HALL". I've never come > > across this before and wondered why it was there. One possibility, I > guess, > > is that Nick Vine HALL is related, but why would he sign the paper in the > > Archives files? > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Cheers > > Jan > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

----- Original Message ----- From: "POB" <pjobrien@bigpond.net.au> Subject: New Member - FAIRS/O'BRIEN > Hi, > My name is Peter O'Brien and I have recently began investigating my > family tree. On my Father's side I have found links to the Hawkesbury > area. > My GG Grandfather is Joseph FAIRS who emmigrated from England > and settled in the Cattai Creek area where his death cert reports him > dying in 1868. He married Ellen DONAHOE (various spellings) in about > 1843. One offspring was Mary Anne FAIRS who was born about 1845 > and who married John Joseph O'Brien on 20 Jan 1865. > I have found the graves of Joseph FAIRS and Helen (Ellen) FAIRS, > son Richard and son Joseph and wife Jane at the Roman Catholic > cemetery at Windsor. The headstones do not look original to me (not > weathered enough?)...and Joseph snr's age is shown as 52 on the > headstone whereas his death cert is 62...maybe a transcription error > to a new headstone? > If this is true, then who replaced them? Joseph's and Ellen are > identical and she died in 1896 so maybe it was done then by the family. > In reviewing the archives I found that Ellen FAIRS was listed in the > Post Office Directory as a farmer at Caddie along with their son Joseph. > Also, the road down to Riverside Oaks golf course is O'Briens Rd and I > wonder if this was a track leading to the O'Brien farm. > I would be interested in any info that members can supply to help my in > my research. I am particularly interested in finding where the Fairs and > the O'Briens may have had some property in order to understand the > circumstances in how they met and married. I would also like to follow > the O'Brien line back. All I have is John Joseph's fathers name as John > and his mothers is Mary A. The only lead I have on the Fairs is that > Joseph's mother's maiden name was Brantford (and the spelling/name > is questionable). > Thanks > Peter O'Brien

Hi, My name is Peter O'Brien and I have recently began investigating my family tree. On my Father's side I have found links to the Hawkesbury area. My GG Grandfather is Joseph FAIRS who emmigrated from England and settled in the Cattai Creek area where his death cert reports him dying in 1868. He married Ellen DONAHOE (various spellings) in about 1843. One offspring was Mary Anne FAIRS who was born about 1845 and who married John Joseph O'Brien on 20 Jan 1865. I have found the graves of Joseph FAIRS and Helen (Ellen) FAIRS, son Richard and son Joseph and wife Jane at the Roman Catholic cemetery at Windsor. The headstones do not look original to me (not weathered enough?)...and Joseph snr's age is shown as 52 on the headstone whereas his death cert is 62...maybe a transcription error to a new headstone? If this is true, then who replaced them? Joseph's and Ellen are identical and she died in 1896 so maybe it was done then by the family. In reviewing the archives I found that Ellen FAIRS was listed in the Post Office Directory as a farmer at Caddie along with their son Joseph. Also, the road down to Riverside Oaks golf course is O'Briens Rd and I wonder if this was a track leading to the O'Brien farm. I would be interested in any info that members can supply to help my in my research. I am particularly interested in finding where the Fairs and the O'Briens may have had some property in order to understand the circumstances in how they met and married. I would also like to follow the O'Brien line back. All I have is John Joseph's fathers name as John and his mothers is Mary A. The only lead I have on the Fairs is that Joseph's mother's maiden name was Brantford (and the spelling/name is questionable). Thanks Peter O'Brien

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