Dear List, Thanks for the replies. Unfortunately I live in Melbourne. Are there any agents that will do the legwork for you. Please reply offlist, so as not to advertise particular people's businesses. Appreciate the assistance. Carol Dale

Dear Carol, Possibly better than a will is the Deceased Estate papers which are located at STate Records KINGSWOOD, 6 days a week. Sometimes there is a will in it. Finish about 1960 though. Sincerely, Bill Carol Dale wrote: > Dear List, > > Can anybody help me in respect of the availability of wills and probate > documents. I know how to get them for Victoria, but not NSW. If an agent

Carol, Presuming you live in Sydney: Wills - from 1788 to 1901 inclusive - have been filmed by LDS. Copies of films should be available at your LDS centre. Also SAG in Sydney has a copy I understand that because of copyright reasons or an agreement between SAG and LDS that photocopying of the film is not permitted at SAG. It is at LDS though. Probate index - from 1788 to about 1985 - produced by Supreme Court, Probate Division. Available most research centres, i.e., State Library, municipal libraries, genealogical societies, State Records. etc. Some centres don't have the latest fiche, perhaps only to about 1980. Deceased estate files - originals for NSW 1884-1958 held at State Records of NSW, Kingswood repository. --------- All are free to look up (except if you want a copy - then price of a photocopy) Some deceased estate files include a copy of the will (but don't count on it). If you want a copy of a will after 1901 you would need to apply to Supreme Court, Probate Division. Last time I checked they were still charging like wounded buffalo - probably more like the whole herd now <g>. So be wary. Alison :-) Sydney Oz ------------- Carol Dale wrote: > Dear List, > > Can anybody help me in respect of the availability of wills and > probate documents. I know how to get them for Victoria, but not NSW. > If an agent is required, can anybody recommend anybody. > > All assistance greatly appreciated. > > Carol Dale >

Looking for any information on the SKELTON & BULLOCK family in the Maitland/Mudgee/Gulgong area around 1850 - 1858. Maria Central Coast, NSW Australia

Dear List, Can anybody help me in respect of the availability of wills and probate documents. I know how to get them for Victoria, but not NSW. If an agent is required, can anybody recommend anybody. All assistance greatly appreciated. Carol Dale

----- Original Message ----- From: "susie" <eisus@optusnet.com.au> Subject: KIRWAN..TURNBULL..WELDON > Any lister have any information in regard to Dennis Benjamin > KIRWAN d1851, and his wife Jessica(maiden name) TURNBULL > m1818, one child in particular Victoria KIRWAN b1839, married > George WELDON 1864, thanks Susie

Hi everyone, Just a :) reminder to <snip> those long email replies. Bill's response to a post, which I am using "just" as an example, gives a good idea of what <snipping> is all about ... (hope you don't mind Bill) ============================= Dear Don, National Records at Chester Hill should have a complete file on the Post Office at Kurrajong, from which you may get some interesting information. Sincerely, Bill Morlu wrote: > Hi everyone.... I'm new to the list. > > Interest is in Thomas Walker and wife Mary Ann Mahoney, my great ========================== Bill's reply is at the top, followed by a snipped (edited) portion of Morlu's "original" post. Like Bill has done, you only need to retain just enough of the original post/query in your reply, so that others have some idea of what the reply refers to. Delete/snip/cut out any uneccessary portions of the original post, and any of the previous messages that may be attached underneath (a thread), including any trailers (those are the Ancestry ones that Rootsweb automatically puts at the bottom of "each" and "every" message that is sent to the list). When you send a reply, one will be added ! If several people reply, and a thread begins, and nobody <snips> you end up with long messages containing a whole lot of previous posts, and a heep of these trailers at the bottom. A lot of people probably already know about <snipping>, so I don't mean (or want) to sound like a broken record :), but some people may not know and therefore do not <snip> ... but now they do :) Just a simple ask .... so we don't get toooo much repeated reading in a whole lot of long, long, and longer messages. And depending on your mail program, you can always ask it not to " include message in reply" .... but that's entirely up to you. Enjoy your weekend folks :) Diane (Admin)

Hi Robert, They most certainly are the JEANS from Stourpaine, (& Durweston) Dorset, England, & yes there are a few NEW - JEANS marriages & JEANS - JEANS marriages between 1st & 2nd cousins. There were several JEANS & related families who come to Australia from Dorset. The first JEANS family member to arrive in Australia was; Frances (Fanny) JEANS & her husband, Benjamin WEEKS in 1837 per "The Brothers" - recruited by Edward Macarthur to work on the Macarthur Estate. Jane NEW (widow) nee Monkton & her children arrived in 1849 per "Emigrant" James BECKINGHAM who married Georgina Ainsworth JEANS also arrived in 1849 per "Emigrant" with his family Malachi JEANS & Martha Jane nee AINSWORTH arrived in 1855 per "Lord Hungerford" John & Martha JEANS nee DIBBEN arrived in 1856 per "Persia" along with 10 other members of the NEW family. All the above JEANS are descendents of Joseph JEANS & Elizabeth nee SHEPHERD m. 1738 Durweston, Dorset, England. I have 21 NEW's in my database. I am descended from John & Martha JEANS nee DIBBEN. Susan JEANS their 9th child who married James William BARDEN , were my g grandparents. Henry John JEANS, the son of Michael JEANS & Catherine nee SCOTT, was the Secretary & later a Director of The Muswellbrook Coal Company. Would love to hear from anyone with a connection to the above to fill in a few gaps but I also have a lot to exchange. Which part of the west did your NEW family settle? I have seen that name mentioned in the Central West & Pilliga areas recently. Regards Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Heal" <healr@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Listing my names of interest > Hello Helen, > > these Jean's would be some from Dorset England. They were connected > with the New > family also from Dorset England ( around Stourpane ). These New's > lived around > Maitland and Inverell. > > There were other New's from Dorset at Camden and Temora but they were > different > to the Maitland News. > > There were also New's out west, they were from Worcestershire ( my > News ). > > I used to have some information on the Dorset News and Jeans which I > investigated > by mistake. There is also some information about them on Jeans-L at > Rootsweb. > > If my memory serves me correctly one was called Malachi Jeans. > > Hope this helps > > Robert Heal > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helen Dickinson" <hjayd@myplace.net.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:12 AM > Subject: [H,H,HV] Listing my names of interest > > > > JEANS - Maitland, Muswellbrook, Camden, Goulburn & further south & > south west > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hello Helen, these Jean's would be some from Dorset England. They were connected with the New family also from Dorset England ( around Stourpane ). These New's lived around Maitland and Inverell. There were other New's from Dorset at Camden and Temora but they were different to the Maitland News. There were also New's out west, they were from Worcestershire ( my News ). I used to have some information on the Dorset News and Jeans which I investigated by mistake. There is also some information about them on Jeans-L at Rootsweb. If my memory serves me correctly one was called Malachi Jeans. Hope this helps Robert Heal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Dickinson" <hjayd@myplace.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:12 AM Subject: [H,H,HV] Listing my names of interest > JEANS - Maitland, Muswellbrook, Camden, Goulburn & further south & south west

Hi everyone Anyone have knowledge of a Mrs Flowers who had a daughter Ruth in Richmond - Kurrajong area in the 1930's era? Ruth had nine children of her own.... . Thanks Don Walker Heathcote NSW

Searching for descendants of James Davison and Eliza Maria Suttor James residence in 1819 was Parish of Pit Town James and Eliza married in 1819. Thanks Terri

Ann, I think thats the one I was thinking of. between Stanthorpe and Warwick on the highway there is a sign to Maryland, which is actually in NSW. Hope this helps Robert Heal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Carson" <amcarson500@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 10:09 AM Subject: RE: [H,H,HV] BORTHWICK, BROUN / BROWN and many others > Thank you June. I'll follow that lead. The directory says Maryland, New > England so perhaps Stanthorpe is a bit too far north. I'd assumed > somewhere near Murrurundi because of the supposedly strong Hunter > connections at this time and because son John is listed at Murrurundi. > However this could be a very mistaken assumption. > > Am not sure how far "New England" extended at that time - and what the > generally accepted boundaries (if any) of the "Maitland" region were in > the late 1830s. Does any lister have any knowledge of the locally > accepted areas - or did just about anything go? > > Ann > > > -----Original Message----- > From: June Reeks [mailto:juneree@turboweb.net.au] > Sent: Friday, 10 January 2003 8:17 AM > To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] BORTHWICK, BROUN / BROWN and many others > > Ann > This may be an area now known as "The Marylands" and is shown on my map > as > Maryland, situated about 15 kms NNE of Stanthorpe just on the NSW side > of > the border with QLD. > htth > June > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ann Carson <amcarson500@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:18 PM > Subject: [H,H,HV] BORTHWICK, BROUN / BROWN and many others > > > > In response to Diane's invitation some of the names I am researching > > are: > > > > BORTHWICK -- my own family in Australia commencing with William Murray > > Borthwick who arrived in 1833 and eventually settled at Inverell > > following some years in the Hunter district. I would love to trace his > > movements in the Hunter. All I know is that he worked for William COX > > of "Hobartville" for two years and for Colonel DUMARESQ for two > years. > > Another clue is that in the 1839 Post Office directory for NSW William > > Murray Borthwick and his son John are listed at Murrurundi, one at a > > place named Maryland, which I have been unable to trace. (If it was > > there own place it could have been named after Maryland in Glasgow.) > > Murrurundi and District Historical Society has been unable to help so > if > > anyone on the list has any ideas at all about "Maryland" Murrurundi I > > would be truly delighted to hear! > > > > One Borthwick son, John, married Anne CLIFT, daughter of Samuel Clift > of > > Maitland and Breeza, and another son married Catherine Elizabeth > Amelia > > MAYO. There are many other Hunter district marriages and connections > > within the family. > > > > As well as researching my own family I am doing a BORTHWICK worldwide > > One Name Study (registered with the Guild of One name Studies). So I > am > > interested in any Borthwick information at all, anywhere in the world. > > I have posted a great deal of Borthwick data on my web site for other > > Borthwick researchers to share. > > > > Another side of my family, the BROUN / BROWN family had Hunter > > connections, originally living at "Colstoun" Upper Paterson. While > the > > BROUNS are being researched by other family members, including > Charlotte > > who is a member of this list, I am always interested in sharing > > information and hope to fully research my own line of the BROUN (in > our > > line more commonly known as BROWN) family at some point. > > > > Best wishes to all on the list for a peaceful, happy and healthy 2003. > > > > Ann Carson (Sydney, Australia) > > amcarson500@optusnet.com.au > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > My website, including data for my BORTHWICK worldwide One Name Study > > (GoONS 3727) > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I should have Googled before replying June! I think your information might be a clue well worth pursuing - and it fits with something Robert Heal also sent me. Have found Maryland National Park near the Queensland border. It is much further north than I assumed my family to have been at this time but will do some more research. In the meantime if anyone else knows of BORTHWICKS (BOTHWICK in the directory) in the Hunter / New England area in the 1830s I'd be very pleased to hear. Thank you Ann -----Original Message----- From: June Reeks [mailto:juneree@turboweb.net.au] Sent: Friday, 10 January 2003 8:17 AM To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] BORTHWICK, BROUN / BROWN and many others Ann This may be an area now known as "The Marylands" and is shown on my map as Maryland, situated about 15 kms NNE of Stanthorpe just on the NSW side of the border with QLD. htth June ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Carson <amcarson500@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] BORTHWICK, BROUN / BROWN and many others > In response to Diane's invitation some of the names I am researching > are: > > BORTHWICK -- my own family in Australia commencing with William Murray > Borthwick who arrived in 1833 and eventually settled at Inverell > following some years in the Hunter district. I would love to trace his > movements in the Hunter. All I know is that he worked for William COX > of "Hobartville" for two years and for Colonel DUMARESQ for two years. > Another clue is that in the 1839 Post Office directory for NSW William > Murray Borthwick and his son John are listed at Murrurundi, one at a > place named Maryland, which I have been unable to trace. (If it was > there own place it could have been named after Maryland in Glasgow.) > Murrurundi and District Historical Society has been unable to help so if > anyone on the list has any ideas at all about "Maryland" Murrurundi I > would be truly delighted to hear! > > One Borthwick son, John, married Anne CLIFT, daughter of Samuel Clift of > Maitland and Breeza, and another son married Catherine Elizabeth Amelia > MAYO. There are many other Hunter district marriages and connections > within the family. > > As well as researching my own family I am doing a BORTHWICK worldwide > One Name Study (registered with the Guild of One name Studies). So I am > interested in any Borthwick information at all, anywhere in the world. > I have posted a great deal of Borthwick data on my web site for other > Borthwick researchers to share. > > Another side of my family, the BROUN / BROWN family had Hunter > connections, originally living at "Colstoun" Upper Paterson. While the > BROUNS are being researched by other family members, including Charlotte > who is a member of this list, I am always interested in sharing > information and hope to fully research my own line of the BROUN (in our > line more commonly known as BROWN) family at some point. > > Best wishes to all on the list for a peaceful, happy and healthy 2003. > > Ann Carson (Sydney, Australia) > amcarson500@optusnet.com.au > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > My website, including data for my BORTHWICK worldwide One Name Study > (GoONS 3727) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/ > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thank you June. I'll follow that lead. The directory says Maryland, New England so perhaps Stanthorpe is a bit too far north. I'd assumed somewhere near Murrurundi because of the supposedly strong Hunter connections at this time and because son John is listed at Murrurundi. However this could be a very mistaken assumption. Am not sure how far "New England" extended at that time - and what the generally accepted boundaries (if any) of the "Maitland" region were in the late 1830s. Does any lister have any knowledge of the locally accepted areas - or did just about anything go? Ann -----Original Message----- From: June Reeks [mailto:juneree@turboweb.net.au] Sent: Friday, 10 January 2003 8:17 AM To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] BORTHWICK, BROUN / BROWN and many others Ann This may be an area now known as "The Marylands" and is shown on my map as Maryland, situated about 15 kms NNE of Stanthorpe just on the NSW side of the border with QLD. htth June ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Carson <amcarson500@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] BORTHWICK, BROUN / BROWN and many others > In response to Diane's invitation some of the names I am researching > are: > > BORTHWICK -- my own family in Australia commencing with William Murray > Borthwick who arrived in 1833 and eventually settled at Inverell > following some years in the Hunter district. I would love to trace his > movements in the Hunter. All I know is that he worked for William COX > of "Hobartville" for two years and for Colonel DUMARESQ for two years. > Another clue is that in the 1839 Post Office directory for NSW William > Murray Borthwick and his son John are listed at Murrurundi, one at a > place named Maryland, which I have been unable to trace. (If it was > there own place it could have been named after Maryland in Glasgow.) > Murrurundi and District Historical Society has been unable to help so if > anyone on the list has any ideas at all about "Maryland" Murrurundi I > would be truly delighted to hear! > > One Borthwick son, John, married Anne CLIFT, daughter of Samuel Clift of > Maitland and Breeza, and another son married Catherine Elizabeth Amelia > MAYO. There are many other Hunter district marriages and connections > within the family. > > As well as researching my own family I am doing a BORTHWICK worldwide > One Name Study (registered with the Guild of One name Studies). So I am > interested in any Borthwick information at all, anywhere in the world. > I have posted a great deal of Borthwick data on my web site for other > Borthwick researchers to share. > > Another side of my family, the BROUN / BROWN family had Hunter > connections, originally living at "Colstoun" Upper Paterson. While the > BROUNS are being researched by other family members, including Charlotte > who is a member of this list, I am always interested in sharing > information and hope to fully research my own line of the BROUN (in our > line more commonly known as BROWN) family at some point. > > Best wishes to all on the list for a peaceful, happy and healthy 2003. > > Ann Carson (Sydney, Australia) > amcarson500@optusnet.com.au > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > My website, including data for my BORTHWICK worldwide One Name Study > (GoONS 3727) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/ > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Don I have the books but could find no mention of Mary Alice or Arthur Hanchett. Regards June ----- Original Message ----- From: Morlu <masangi@ihug.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:40 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Walker - Kurrajong Heights > > Hi everyone.... I'm new to the list. > > Interest is in Thomas Walker and wife Mary Ann Mahoney, my great > grandparents. He was Postmaster at Kurrajong Heights in 1870's. > > I am particularly interested at the moment in any information re Daniel and > Alvina Packer (nee Everingham), and daughter Mary Alice, born Sackville ca > 1908 who married an Arthur S Hanchett in 1919. > > Does anyone have access to a look up in the Everingham genealogy books? > > Thanks > > Don Walker > Heathcote NSW > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Ann This may be an area now known as "The Marylands" and is shown on my map as Maryland, situated about 15 kms NNE of Stanthorpe just on the NSW side of the border with QLD. htth June ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Carson <amcarson500@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] BORTHWICK, BROUN / BROWN and many others > In response to Diane's invitation some of the names I am researching > are: > > BORTHWICK -- my own family in Australia commencing with William Murray > Borthwick who arrived in 1833 and eventually settled at Inverell > following some years in the Hunter district. I would love to trace his > movements in the Hunter. All I know is that he worked for William COX > of "Hobartville" for two years and for Colonel DUMARESQ for two years. > Another clue is that in the 1839 Post Office directory for NSW William > Murray Borthwick and his son John are listed at Murrurundi, one at a > place named Maryland, which I have been unable to trace. (If it was > there own place it could have been named after Maryland in Glasgow.) > Murrurundi and District Historical Society has been unable to help so if > anyone on the list has any ideas at all about "Maryland" Murrurundi I > would be truly delighted to hear! > > One Borthwick son, John, married Anne CLIFT, daughter of Samuel Clift of > Maitland and Breeza, and another son married Catherine Elizabeth Amelia > MAYO. There are many other Hunter district marriages and connections > within the family. > > As well as researching my own family I am doing a BORTHWICK worldwide > One Name Study (registered with the Guild of One name Studies). So I am > interested in any Borthwick information at all, anywhere in the world. > I have posted a great deal of Borthwick data on my web site for other > Borthwick researchers to share. > > Another side of my family, the BROUN / BROWN family had Hunter > connections, originally living at "Colstoun" Upper Paterson. While the > BROUNS are being researched by other family members, including Charlotte > who is a member of this list, I am always interested in sharing > information and hope to fully research my own line of the BROUN (in our > line more commonly known as BROWN) family at some point. > > Best wishes to all on the list for a peaceful, happy and healthy 2003. > > Ann Carson (Sydney, Australia) > amcarson500@optusnet.com.au > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > My website, including data for my BORTHWICK worldwide One Name Study > (GoONS 3727) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/ > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Carol, I have information on the Ballentines (some) especially Agnes who married Henry Raisbeck if you are interested. ANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Dale <coradsl@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Families of interest - A to H > Dear list, > > I too will take up the invitation in respect of listing my family > interests. I am writing a family history of the Fogarty and related > families, which spread from Tamworth to Singleton. There are so many > interesting names that I have split them up alphabetically. Here is > installment one. I will post the rest in batches, over the next month, so > as not to clog the list. > > Alderton, Avard, Ballantine, Batterham, Brayshaw, Carter, Caslick, Chaffey, > Challis, Collison, Cone, Corbett, Cundy, Fallon, Fogarty, Gardner, > Golledge, Greer, Gunter, Haworth, Hemmings, Henry, Hewett, Heyman, Hitchens > > Please contact me off list if you are researching any of the above. More > than happy to provide what I have (but no guarantees on its authenticity, > as it has been gathered from many sources, not all verified) > > Happy Hunting > > Carol Dale > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear Don, National Records at Chester Hill should have a complete file on the Post Office at Kurrajong, from which you may get some interesting information. Sincerely, Bill Morlu wrote: > Hi everyone.... I'm new to the list. > > Interest is in Thomas Walker and wife Mary Ann Mahoney, my great

Dear Ann, Could I suggest old Parish maps at State Records KINGSWOOD as a source? Sincerely, Bill Ann Carson wrote: > In response to Diane's invitation some of the names I am researching > are: >

Claude, Phil, Marg, Robert, et al, Claude .... I'm speechless :-) Phil ... no apology necessary, everyone is different. I was generally referring to the ones you see often on "genealogy" lists. Personally, I have never visited a chat room and nor have I ever sent an sms message (call me ancient !). There are always newbies out there (I think we all were new at one stage) who may be unfamiliar with mailing lists etc. and I often see the same ? asked ... "what does it mean". Yes Marg, I knew I'd forget, perhaps, one of the most often seen ones. (SKS = some kind soul, for those who *may* not know). and Robert ... tsk ! tsk ! NO rude ones allowed on the list (even in abbreviated form). Perhaps enough said ... Diane