Michelle, Ann, and others, You may also find these pages of interest http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/mrbirrell/ The author is a descendant of the COX family Diane last one for the evening :)
Posted previously, but a good read all the same .... The Oldest Church in Australia : The demolition of the first St. John's Church, Parramatta, removed from the Church of England the honour of possessing the oldest place of worship in Australia, and secured that distinction for the little Presbyterian Church at Ebenezer, on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. The old Hawkesbury ! What memories of the past slumber beside its placid flow. Here an old homestead nearly 100 years old, or an old mill around whose crumbling ruins cluster many old associations, almost forgotton. As I sit and ponder o'er the past, as I watch the willows dipping their branches in the stream that flows past my feet, as I note the soft silver sheen stretching across the water's surface from shore to shore, where the sunlight is bathing its warm ardour in the stream, I seem to see a long procession of boats coming down the river; they are coming so slowly, and I can hear the regular dip of their oars, and I watch them, as they reach a little cutting in the bank, lift something covered with a sheet from out of the foremost boat, and they follow it, two and two, up that rough hewn path, towards the little churchyard that overlooks the river. And I remember again the story of old Ebenezer and its little chapel. It is just a plain stone structure, without any ornamentation at all, no lofty spire crowns it, no beautiful archway of finely wrought stone work shelters its little doorways; upon the inside there are no vaulted ceilings, no pillars, no side aisles and no memorial windows; but there is a quiet dignity there, and the neat and clean interior looks bright in the sunshine that streams in through four large windows. As I walked up that faded strip of carpet, and stood in that ancient pulpit, I felt that the place whereon I stood was holy ground. One hundred and eight years ago is a long way back in Australian history. In 1802 a number of English and Scottish nonconformists arrived as free settlers in Sydney. Many of them attempted to settle in the neighbourhood of Auburn and Rookwood, in consequence of which we have the name Liberty Plains handed down to us. That part of the colony offering but poor inducements to intending settlers, most of them formed a settlement on the Hawkesbury. No sooner were they settled in their new homes than they commenced to raise money towards the erection of a chapel and schoolhouse, as Governor King testifies in October, 1802. Having formed a society or congregation, the members soon went to work towards the erection of their church, they cut the stone into blocks, and brought it to the site, some contributed produce off their farms, Thos. ARNDELL and W. HALL being authorised to accept such, the proceeds of which were used to pay accounts with. Some of the timber work was paid for in wheat calculated at 10s per bushel, or fresh pork at 1s per lb. Mr David DUNSTAN, the founder of the famous Hawkesbury family of that name, completed the carpenter's work. And thus this little band of devoted men worked until 1808, when their chapel was completed, and, except for two small alterations, it remains the same today. When they finished their chapel, one of themselves, James MEIN, an elder of the Kirk, became their preacher, a position he filled for many years. He, and several members of the first congregation, are buried in the adjoining churchyard and many of their descendants worship in the little building today. The first ordained minister to dispense the Holy Communion within its walls was the Rev. Samuel LEIGH, the pioneer Wesleyan misssionary in Australia; the date of his visitation was 1816. The Rev. Dr. LANG was the first Presbyterian clergyman to officiate there, this was in 1822. The first regular minister was the Rev. John McGARVIE. Surely the history of Ebenezer Church will interest many besides Presbyterians; and the fact that it still remains a landmark of better things of the past is an evidence of the good work that love and loyalty did so many years ago. William Freame - 1910 (extract from the Cumberland Argus) Diane
A few pages that may be of interest to some .... Charter of the Coromandel and Perseus http://users.tpg.com.au/users/jturnbu/charter.html Diary http://users.tpg.com.au/users/jturnbu/diary.html Application to Emigrate http://users.tpg.com.au/users/jturnbu/applicat.html Cheers, Diane
Hi Susie, Perhaps the following may assist ... Dennis B. KIRWIN, convict, was transported from Calcutta, Bengal, and arrived in Sydney per "Hayeston" in 1816; married, November, 1818 (St. Matthews, Windsor), Jessica TURNBULL (daughter of John TURNBULL). The TURNBULL family arrived free per "Coromandel" in 1802. if you have a look at this page http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/page140.html and scroll down till you reach the name of John TURNBULL and Ann (nee WARR), then click on the link, it will bring up the email address of a researcher who *may* be able to assist you further. Good luck .... Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "susie" <eisus@optusnet.com.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] KIRWAN,TURNBULL,WELDON,MANLY I am looking for information in regard to the family listed below, in particular Victoria (Kirwan) Weldon who was the foster parent of my grandmother Lillian(Weldon) Manly, any information would be appreciated..Victoria's father Dennis Benjamin Kirwan, arrived in Hayeston? Australia on the Coromandel ship on the 13th March 1816 with Jessica Turnbull who was 22 at the time, they married in St Mathews Church Windsor in 1818, and had 13 children in Australia and one of them was Victoria who together with her husband George Weldon fostered two children Eva and my grandmother Lillian, after their own little girls Jessica and Charlotte died. The thirteen children of Dennis and Jessica listed below were all born at Sackville Reach, where Dennis Kirwan died in 1851.
I am looking for information in regard to the family listed below, in particular Victoria (Kirwan) Weldon who was the foster parent of my grandmother Lillian(Weldon) Manly, any information would be appreciated..Victoria's father Dennis Benjamin Kirwan, arrived in Hayeston? Australia on the Coromandel ship on the 13th March 1816 with Jessica Turnbull who was 22 at the time, they married in St Mathews Church Windsor in 1818, and had 13 children in Australia and one of them was Victoria who together with her husband George Weldon fostered two children Eva and my grandmother Lillian, after their own little girls Jessica and Charlotte died. The thirteen children of Dennis and Jessica listed below were all born at Sackville Reach, where Dennis Kirwan died in 1851. Hiram John 1819, Elizabeth 1820, Matilda Zillar 1822, Diana 1824, Anne 1826, Colclough 1828, Phoebe 1830, Henrietta Caroline 1832, Adelaide Jane 1834, Harriett 1836, VICTORIA 1839, Harriett Venus 1841, Angelina 1844
Hi, Is there anyone researching FRANCIS of Newcastle I have FRANCISCO who changed their names to FRANCIS so it is really hard to sort them all out,so would be happy to have contact & work with others to sort them out. Thank Louise
Sorry for the late reply. I have a candidate for guest speaker for your group. Cathie Rogers Cathierogers@ihug.com.au Does guide work for historical buildings - could be very interesting. ANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane <dianep@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:50 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] Fw: Speakers (Hawkesbury FHG) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michelle NICHOLS" <michelle.nichols@hawkesbury.nsw.gov.au> > Subject: Speakers > > > > Diane > > As you know I co-ordinate the Hawkesbury Family History Group. > > I am currently organising speakers for 2003. The group has been > > functioning for over 20 years and over this period had a wide range > > of speakers relating to various topics. Would you be able to post > > the following request on the HHHV list please? > > > The Hawkesbury Family History Group is looking for guest speakers > > for 2003. The group meets every 2nd Wednesday of the month > > (except January) at the Windsor Central Library. The meeting > > commences at 10am, followed by morning tea. The meetings are > > informal and we are looking for speakers focusing on Hawkesbury > > families, aspects of Hawkesbury history or general family history. > > If you are interested, please contact Michelle Nichols, Local Studies > > Librarian for more details, mnichols@hawkesbury.nsw.gov.au > > Seasons Greetings > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Hi all, After a visit to the library today, I have copies of some obits from the "Singleton Argus". "Singleton Argus" 3 August 1942 William Henry GOULD, of Kelso St Helen M. LEVEY, of York St "Singleton Argus" 5 August 1942 Martha BELLAMY, wife of William T. Bellamy Bridget FREEL, wife of William Freel "Singleton Argus" 5 August 1942 Mary Helen ALLEN, daughter of Robert Allen Email me for details. Cheers Jan
Is anybody researching the family of Patrick POWER and Margaret RYAN , who settled in the Nundle district. I have some information on descendants but after more for my family history. I have the following: Patrick POWER (b.1835-Ireland d.1886-Nundle,New South Wales) Margaret POWER (b.1838-Mullinavat,Kilkenny,Ireland d.24 Jan 1913-Sydney,NSW)sp: Michael RYAN (b.1838-Kilmoyer,Tipperary,Ireland m.1862 d.8 Oct 1924-Kensington,NSW) Mary POWER (b.1839-Mullinavat,Kilkenny,Ireland d.6 Dec 1896-Nundle,New South Wales) sp: John FOGARTY (b.1 Dec 1834-Templemore County,Tipperary,Ireland m.21 Apr 1863 d.7 Feb 1871-Nundle,NSW)sp: John KELLY (b.? m.1874) Thomas POWER (b.1841-Mullinavat,Kilkenny,Ireland) John POWER (b.1843-Mullinavat,Kilkenny,Ireland) Hannah POWER (b.1845-Mullinavat,Kilkenny,Ireland) Bridget POWER (b.1846-Mullinavat,Kilkenny,Ireland d.10 Mar 1900-Nundle,New South Wales) sp: John RYAN (b.? m.14 Oct 1866) Any help would be appreciated Carol Dale
I am researching my Hunter Valley family connections and have Ninness's in my family tree through marriage into the Parker family and back into the Fogarty family. I have some Ninness grave photos and a variety of tree information. I am interested in the family history, particularly ancestral background information. I am putting together a CD on my related families for private distribution only, and would love to get in touch with anybody researching this family. Also noticed that three soldiers with Ninness surname were parties to a Field Court Martial in WW1. (on Australian Archives Site). Carol Dale Melbourne Vic
Hi all, I've been sidetracked into another branch of my husband's family. At least five CHANDLER sisters (married names CLOUT, RANSLEY, ROBARDS, SONTER, WALTERS and possibly AVARD) and at least one brother (plus assorted VIDLER cousins) arrived in Australia between 1838 and 1841. The line I'm interested in at the moment is that of Christopher CHANTLER and his Sarah (nee BUTLER). They had a large family who married into the MORTIMER, NEIL and WHITE families in the Richmond, Windsor and Maitland areas. Christopher was a publican in Windsor where he died in 1859. I'd love to hear from any connections. Cheers Jan
Hello Michelle I was very interested in this and found it particularly helpful. Thank you for posting it. I've been muddling around trying to work out the William Coxs of Hobartville etc and so on for ages. My ancestor said that he worked for "Mr William cox of Hobartville" for two years. This must have been somewhere between 1833 and 1839 but I haven't yet found any records or other leads. Do you have any suggestions about available records for that time? My ancestor was a free man and came to Australia with his wife and six children so I assume they too - or at least the wife and younger children were with William Murray Borthwick when he worked for "Mr William Cox of Hobartville". Any thought s you have about available records for me to search would be greatly appreciated. Ann Carson amcarson500@optusnet.com.au ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My website, including data for the BORTHWICK worldwide One Name Study (GoONS 3727) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~anncarson/ -----Original Message----- From: Michelle Nichols [mailto:michelle_nichols@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, 24 January 2003 1:04 PM To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [H,H,HV] Hobartville, Richmond I thought listers maybe interested in the following info about Hobartville estate. I have abridged it from some research I did some years ago.
I thought listers maybe interested in the following info about Hobartville estate. I have abridged it from some research I did some years ago. Hobartville estate is located on the outskirts of Richmond with views to the mountains. Originally 2 grants (Blackman & Lutterell) the property was purchased by William Cox (senior or junior is not known) in 1816. The property became the home of William Cox junior who was the eldest son of William Cox and Rebecca Upjohn who arrived in the colony of NSW onboard the Minerva in 1800. (William Cox senior was wellknown in the Hawkesbury as a roadbuilder and was responsible for building many fine Hawkesbury buildings some of which are still standing today) William jnr purchased a commission with the NSW Corps in 1808 and returned to England and served in the Peninsular Wars, he was promoted to Lieutenant in 1812. William married Elizabeth Piper daughter of John and Frances Piper on the 12th August 1813 at St. George Bloomsbury in London. They returned to Australia on the Wyndham in 1814, William was then a member of the 46th Regiment. William leased Luttrell's Farm at Richmond from Luttrell's son-in-law Lt. Atkins & purchased the 400 acre property in 1816, expanding with Blackman's 100 acre farm in 1818. The Georgian house was completed by 1828. William Cox junior died on the 20th January 1850 and was buried in St. Peter's Cemetery, Richmond. Following the his death, son Sloper Cox leased the property from his older brother, William (who was already involved with running the Negoa property in the Hunter Valley). Sloper married Adelaide Sophia Garling in 1856, sister of Frederick Garling, famous Australian artist. The Hobartville property was eventually conveyed to Sloper in 1865 by his mother Elizabeth and William. The association of the Cox family and Hobartville ended when Sloper died bankrupt on the 24th September 1877 aged 53 years. Andrew Town (1840-1890) was the next owner and purchased the property from the Cox estate in 1877 to expand his horse breeding business. Town was very well known in the horse racing and breeding arena owning some very famous sires and mares. Town went bankrupt and the property was sold. The house and much of the land still stands today and is used as a horse stud. It can be seen on the left, on the road from Richmond to Kurrajong. The following is a list of persons (& their occupations) employed at Hobartville in 1828, according to the Census of NSW, November 1828. There were 42 males + 3 females. WILLIAM BARRY SHEPHERD WILLIAM BENYON LABOURER RICHARD BOOTHRIGHT LABOURER THOMAS BRAY TAILOR WILLIAM A. BRETT SCHOOLMASTER BRIDGET BUCKLEY NURSEMAID THOMAS CLARKE SHEARER ENOCH COLE STOCKMAN DAVID CONWAY WATCHMAN JOSEPH COPE SHEPHERD CORNELIUS CULLEN SHEPHERD WILLIAM DAWSON STOCKMAN JOHN FITCH LABOURER AMBROSE GILLATT STOCKKEEPER SARAH HOLMES GOVERNESS (**came free) JAMES HORN BULLOCK DRIVER JOHN JOHNSTONE LABOURER WILLIAM JONES SHEPHERD EDWARD KELLY BULLOCK DRIVER DANIEL KELLA SHEPHERD WILLIAM LANAGHAN LABOURER RICHARD LEE SHEPHERD RICHARD LEWIS STOCKKEEPER TIMOTHY LYNCH WATCHMAN JOHN McCABE HOUSESERVANT JOHN McLEAN STOCKMAN JOHN MALONG REAPER JOSEPH MANCER PLOUGHMAN JAMES MARTIN OVERSEER PATRICK MATTHEWS SHEARER THOMAS MELVILLE OVERSEER PETER NEE SHEARER MICHAEL O'HEARN PLOUGHMAN JOHN PARKER SERVANT RICHARD PUNCHARD WATCHMAN JOHN QUINT HOUSE SERVANT CHARLES READ COACHMAN HENRY READING SHOEMAKER JOHN SAUNDERS SHEPHERD HELEN SIDDELL HOUSEMAID WILLIAM STEWART SHEPHERD JAMES SUTHERLAND LABOURER WILLIAM TAYLOR SERVANT THOMAS WELSH CARPENTER FREDERICK WINGROVE SHEPHERD Michelle Nichols _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
A footnote to my email last week .... All the bronze vases have now been recovered :) It appears that they were offered to a scrap metal dealer, which resulted in the culprits getting caught. A happy ending ... Diane > Last week some unknown persons (morons for want of a better word) > stole a heep of bronze vases, valued at thousands of dollars, from a > number of memorials at the Castlebrook Cemetery & Crematoria at > Rouse Hill.
Some of you may have seen my postings on other lists with items relevant to each, which I am slowly extracting from digitised newspapers on the National Library of Australia website. I am only extracting those items which catch my eye, but there are many more I don't have time to type up. You can see them at: http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/browselist.html CUMBERLAND TIMES - 9.5.1846 WINDSOR ADJOURNED LICENSING MEETING - the applications postponed at the meeting on the 21st for the purpose of the proprietors putting their respective houses in repair, and such order having been complied with, the following were granted:-- George-street, Charles Daley "Lame Dog"; James Miller "Australian Hotel"; James Ingram "Kings Head". Bridge-street, Michael Egan "Currency Lass" MichaelMcQuade "Shamrock Rose and Thistle" McQuarie-street William Thompson "Macquarie Arms" Richmond-road John Higgerson "Bird in Hand". Richmond Wm Farlow "Waggon and Horses" Daniel Harrisky "Welcome Inn" William Onus "Fat Sheep" John Town, Junr "Woolpack" (Wine and Beer License) Wilberforce John Cobcroft "George and Dragon" Wm Jasper "Wilberforce Retreat" Joseph Suffolk "Union Inn" There are yet four applications undisposed of, but which will be taken into consideration on Tuesday next. ...Lina
Thanks Diane for a helpful link. Ihave been able to forward the information on to someone else who is also researching that asylum. Most useful./ Don -----Original Message----- From: Diane [mailto:dianep@optushome.com.au] Sent: Monday, 20 January 2003 10:14 PM To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Flowers Hi Don, A little more at this link .... http://www.hawkesburyhistory.org.au/stubbs/hospital.html Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morlu" <masangi@ihug.com.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] Flowers > Hi everyone > Anyone have any knowledge of the Windsor Benevolent Asylum in > Macquarie Street ca 1870s? > Was it also known at the Hawkesbury Benevolent Asylum and Hospital? > Thanks > Don Walker > Heathcote > NSW
A little bit of info re the Hawkesbury Benevolent Society........I have cut & pasted it from a research essay I did for a uni assignment a few years ago.....so hope it makes sense.....The Hawkesbury Benevolent Society was responsible for running the Hospital (variously named Windsor/Hawkesbury Hospital/Asylum which was located in Macquarie Street, Windsor. The building which was renovated in 1911 was used as the main Hawkesbury Hospital until the 1990s when a new building was built opposite. The Old hospital & site was purchased by Hawkesbury City Council and was extensively renovated last year. It is to be leased out. The new library for Hawkesbury will be estabished on the land adjoining the new hospital. At a meeting which took place on the 31 December 1818, the Hawkesbury Benevolent Society was established with the "sole object of which shall be the support and relief by voluntary contributions of all real objects of charity within the districts of Windsor, Richmond, Wilberforce, Portland Head and Pitt Town". On the 11 January 1819 the first committee were elected consisting of William Cox, Reverend Robert Cartwright, James Mileham, John Brabyn, Archibald Bell, John Jones, Henry Baldwin, Thomas Pitt & George Hall. The Committee was appointed to conduct business consisting of members of the clergy, magistrates of the said districts and four landholders from each district. Formal rules and regulations were drawn up and the committee was to meet monthly. "Feeling the necessity of forming some permanent relief in aid of the poor, aged & infirm" the committee resolved an annual subscription plus a voluntary subscription of horned cattle commence. The Society hoped to assist families distressed from floods and poor persons identified from the district. Land was granted by Governor Macquarie, a kindly benefactor, for cattle pasturage& additionoal land was granted including 500 acres at Currency Creek; ten acres each at Wilberforce and Windsor. These lands were used to raise & sell cattle, the profits going to the Hawkesbury Benevolent Society projects. In 1836 the society built an ASYLUM located in Brabyn Street, Windsor to house the local infirm and paupers. This building was demolished in 1914 when a new building was built adjacent. After a number of years of discussion the abolition of transportation of convicts occurred in 1840. With the termination of convicts to the eastern coast of Australia, a myriad of questions presented themselves to the government including the impending closure of convict and military barracks plus convict hospitals that still existed at Windsor, Bathurst and Goulburn. The Governor was keen for these establishments to be substituted for Hospitals to be run by voluntary organisations similar to those in England. He particularly mentioned Windsor & the existence of the Hawkesbury Benevolent Society. The society took over the running if the hospital but it was not made official until 1844. When the hospital was given to the Society it was decided to house the asylum inmates from Brabyn Street and the hospital patients in the one building providing charity to the poor and sick on the one site, thus saving on running costs. The inmates were moved to the hospital and the old building was rented out. At one stage it was used as a school and later a hotel. PS If you are interested check the mailing list archives as I did an article on the 06 Apr 2002 re the Hawkesbury Benevolent Society Annual Reports. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Dear Don, Not sure prior to 1888 but from the indexes to the Windsor & Richmond Gazette newspaper that we are compiling the Hawkesbury Benevolent Asylum is mentioned from 1888 through to 1907. Hope this is of some assistance, Don. Best wishes, Rod & Wendy Gow Morlu wrote: > Hi everyone > > Anyone have any knowledge of the Windsor Benevolent Asylum in Macquarie > Street ca 1870s? > > Was it also known at the Hawkesbury Benevolent Asylum and Hospital? > > Thanks > > Don Walker > Heathcote > NSW > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
Hi Don, A little more at this link .... http://www.hawkesburyhistory.org.au/stubbs/hospital.html Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Morlu" <masangi@ihug.com.au> Subject: [H,H,HV] Flowers > Hi everyone > Anyone have any knowledge of the Windsor Benevolent Asylum in > Macquarie Street ca 1870s? > Was it also known at the Hawkesbury Benevolent Asylum and Hospital? > Thanks > Don Walker > Heathcote > NSW
Hi everyone Anyone have any knowledge of the Windsor Benevolent Asylum in Macquarie Street ca 1870s? Was it also known at the Hawkesbury Benevolent Asylum and Hospital? Thanks Don Walker Heathcote NSW