Hi Just found a new family to track down around the Maitland area. Is anyone else researching ROBINSON's in the area. The confirmed information I have is - Isaac ROBINSON m Jane BLUNDELL Ann ROBINSON b1836 Manchester, England d1923 Marrickville. Arrived in Australia about 1842 Unconfirmed children born in Maitland - Sarah, James, Jane, William, Martha and Mary Love to share information Maria Central Coast, NSW Australia

Lina St Peter's Church of England, Richmond registers have been microfilmed. They are accessible and available to consult at the following centres : State Library of NSW, Macwuarie Street, Sydney Hawkesbury City Council Library, Dight Street, Windsor Society of Australian Genealogists, 120 Kent Street, Sydney National Library of Australia, Canberra Michelle Nichols _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp

Hi Anyone with an interest in these families Iwould love to hear from you .They lived in the Maitland Muswellbrook area Bye for now KATRINA.

Hi Anyone with info on these families please contact me as Iwould love to hear from you. They lived in the Muswellbrook Maitland area. Bye for now Katrina

Hi, Would anyone with an interest in these families please contact me as Would love any info on them. They lived in the Maitland Muswellbrook area. Bye for now Katrina

The following is a transcription of a death notice from the Sydney Morning Herald Weekend Edition 8-9 March 2003, Page 41, Col 3. ************************ SMITH, Linda Jane - March 5, 2003. Born in Aberdeen NSW. Long term resident of Miranda. Sadly missed by her brothers and sisters, Frank, Ivy Coral, Rex, Bruce, Joe, Ida, Pearl, Doris, Dorothy, Esme and their families. Aged 101 years Linda's family and friends are warmly invited to attend a celebration of her life, to be held this Monday, (March 10, 2003) at St Luke's Anglican Church, corner Kingsway and Jackson Avenue, Miranda, commencing at 10.30 am. A private cremation will follow. In the care of White Lady Funerals 6 Adelong Street, Sutherland. 0954 4912 A.F.D.A. An Australian Company ************************************* A quick look at the NSW BDM CD's revealed; SMITH, Linda J born 1901 F: Frank L, M: Coral A P L, - Reg'd Scone Ref. 36023 SMITH, Frank L born 1887 F: Harry G, M:Elizabeth H, - Reg'd West Maitland Ref. 26567 SMITH, Frank L, married Coral A P L WHITEHEAD, - Reg'd Scone 1900 Ref. 2158 SMITH, Harry G married Elizabeth H SCOBIE, 1879, Reg'd Maitland, Ref 3659 I hope this is of use to someone. Regards Helen Member of Sydney DPS Death Indexing team for the RYERSON INDEX at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nswsdps/ now with 468,059 deaths from 60 Newspapers

are there church books at the CofE Richmond still available from around 1859 to have a look through ? kind regards Lina

Does anyone live near Wilberforce Road, Windsor? Regards Dawn

Fowarded from Admin ... <start> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Gow" <rgow@ceinternet.com.au> Subject: Windsor & Richmond Gazette index 1911-1915 > Windsor & Richmond Gazette index 1911-1915 > A new publication - Windsor & Richmond Gazette newspaper > 1911-1915 index to births deaths marriages inquests obituaries > probates etc - has now been released. > This latest index contains over 5,500 entries on 130 A4 pages, > copies are available at $28 each (postage free within Australia), > and is the second in the series of indexes to this newspaper, > (1916-1920 was released in August last year). > If you would like us to check this index to see if a surname you > are researching gets a mention in the 1911-1916 index, just > drop us an e-mail <rgow@ceinternet.com.au> > If you would like further details on this, or other indexes we > have compiled as an assistance to family historians, just drop > us an e-mail with a postal (snail mail) address and we will > send you out a flyer. > Best wishes, > Rod & Wendy Gow <end> Regards, Diane http://members.optushome.com.au/dianep/ Latest page additions : The "Fleeters" and Ebenezer Church

Good Morning everyone. I have received a mystery from my cousin, and wondered if there was anyone who may have some suggestions. As previously advised we have been researching George Henry Ancell who married Hannah Walker in 1832. He seems to have been an exemplary character, belonging to the Windsor Benevolent Society, the Windsor Literary Society, Storekeeper who provided wares to the Windsor Road Trust. Now Jeff has found in the Arndell Index to Hawkesbury Pioneers "George Henry Ancel {gent} Sarah McDuf had a child Henry born 15.6.1861" My thoughts were "umm a son of George Henry Ancel and wife Hannah Walker?" George senior died in 1864, aged 63 fairly old for those days. To date we have not found the birth of any children to George and Hannah, but there is a Hannah Ancel jnr born circa 1840 who states on her children's birth certificates, and her marriage certificate that she was born in Windsor. The marriage certificate states that her mother was Hannah, and on her death that her father was George. So again I thought this could be a round about way of confirming that George & Hannah had at least 2 children. Hannah senior was the sole beneficiary of George's will in 1864 for 1500 pounds. Hannah jnr married Rowland Hughes, after living in Wollongong for a few years they moved to McGraths Hill, (where Hannah snr was living )prior to moving on to Wallsend. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ANNE

Dear Rod & Wendy, Tell us all about your new release, Windsor & Richmond Gazette newspaper indexes 1911-16, I am sure there are other listers like me, waiting for your next volumes. How much? How to purchase? Some of us are very grateful for the work you are producing, keep up the good work!! Michelle Nichols _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp

Rod, How true! I recently found some information about a living relative (previously a senior public servant) on the NSW State Records web site which was incorrect. His first name was listed as John when it was actually Harold Herbert! So we should ALWAYS check the accuracy of EVERYTHING but as we know it's not always possible. Regards Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Gow" <rgow@ceinternet.com.au> > > You are right, of course, just because its written down somewhere in old records, such as newspapers or diaries etc, doesnt make it true and correct. Even BDM certificates are touch and go depending on the informant, but at least it gives the researcher somewhere to start proving the accuracy of the information

Dear Robert, Thanks for the e-mail re GRONO newspaper articles. Glad they were of some assistance. You are right, of course, just because its written down somewhere in old records, such as newspapers or diaries etc, doesnt make it true and correct. Even BDM certificates are touch and go depending on the informant, but at least it gives the researcher somewhere to start proving the accuracy of the information - and that is the addictive attraction of historical and family research. Dont you just LOVE it ?? The next index of the Windsor & Richmond Gazette newspaper 1911-16 will be released tomorrow and there are another 19 entries for GRONO so when you get a chance it might be worthwhile having a look at these also. In fact the GRONO name keeps on popping up when we are typing the indexes, a bit like dear old MARGARET CATCHPOLE. Best wishes, Rod & Wendy Gow ROBERT TAYLOR wrote: > > Dear Rod, > > Thank you for bringing my attention to the Windsor & Richmond Gazette newspaper index for the years 1916 - 1920. I will certainly check these out at the State Library. > > I would however like to make some comments on Captain James Watson's details that you have listed. One cannot always take as being correct what is printed in newspapers and books. > > Captain Watson was I believe doing this research for Robert McNab. Robert McNab was the author of such works as "Historical Records of New Zealand", Published 1914, "Murihiku and the Southern Islands" Published 1907, and many other books. Unfortunately Robert McNab died about 1917 or it may have been fortunate for some of Captain Watson's statements are completely incorrect. > > Captain John Grono was as far as can be ascertained born in Wales, Though the first record I have found of him in the Royal Navy gives his place of birth as Bristol. > > Elizabeth Grono nee Bristow I believe was born at Begbroke, Oxfordshire. My evidence is circumstantial but strong. > > John and Elizabeth arrived here on "HMS Buffalo" William Raven, master, 4th May 1799. John was boatswain on the "Buffalo", with Elizabeth and their two girls, Elizabeth and Frances accompanying him. > > The 200 acre grant was most probably one he received at Sutton Forrest but never took up. He did receive a grant of 2,500 acres at Webbs Creek and again does not appear to have taken up this grant. All of his land holdings appear to be by purchase. > > The brigantine "Active" John Bader, master, dropped a sealing gang of ten men on Open Bay Islands, N. Z. These ten men were marooned for a few weeks short of four years. All survived. Their names are:- David Loweriston, Alexander Book, Robert Robertson, James Anderson, John Waid (Ward?) William Jones, Frances Perara, John Cames, William Jackson and Bartholemew Vincent. > > Alexander Book./s married Margaret Grono. Robert Robertson (believed to be Robert McKenzie) married Jane Grono. Michael Mitchell who married McKenzie's widow, Jane, is often said to be the third survivor to marry a daughter of John Grono. Mitchell arrived as carpenter on the "Duke of Wellington", Lewis Hill, master, on the 20th January, 1820. Mitchell did sail with Grono on the "Elizabeth" while she was under the command of John Grono. > > I would be most interested to see the rest of Captain Watson's article on John Grono. > > Thank you for your kind advises at looking at newspaper indexes. > > Robert Taylor.

Does anyone have a connection with Lankeys farm in Windsor? Regards Dawn

Dear Rod, Thank you for bringing my attention to the Windsor & Richmond Gazette newspaper index for the years 1916 - 1920. I will certainly check these out at the State Library. I would however like to make some comments on Captain James Watson's details that you have listed. One cannot always take as being correct what is printed in newspapers and books. Captain Watson was I believe doing this research for Robert McNab. Robert McNab was the author of such works as "Historical Records of New Zealand", Published 1914, "Murihiku and the Southern Islands" Published 1907, and many other books. Unfortunately Robert McNab died about 1917 or it may have been fortunate for some of Captain Watson's statements are completely incorrect. Captain John Grono was as far as can be ascertained born in Wales, Though the first record I have found of him in the Royal Navy gives his place of birth as Bristol. Elizabeth Grono nee Bristow I believe was born at Begbroke, Oxfordshire. My evidence is circumstantial but strong. John and Elizabeth arrived here on "HMS Buffalo" William Raven, master, 4th May 1799. John was boatswain on the "Buffalo", with Elizabeth and their two girls, Elizabeth and Frances accompanying him. The 200 acre grant was most probably one he received at Sutton Forrest but never took up. He did receive a grant of 2,500 acres at Webbs Creek and again does not appear to have taken up this grant. All of his land holdings appear to be by purchase. The brigantine "Active" John Bader, master, dropped a sealing gang of ten men on Open Bay Islands, N. Z. These ten men were marooned for a few weeks short of four years. All survived. Their names are:- David Loweriston, Alexander Book, Robert Robertson, James Anderson, John Waid (Ward?) William Jones, Frances Perara, John Cames, William Jackson and Bartholemew Vincent. Alexander Book./s married Margaret Grono. Robert Robertson (believed to be Robert McKenzie) married Jane Grono. Michael Mitchell who married McKenzie's widow, Jane, is often said to be the third survivor to marry a daughter of John Grono. Mitchell arrived as carpenter on the "Duke of Wellington", Lewis Hill, master, on the 20th January, 1820. Mitchell did sail with Grono on the "Elizabeth" while she was under the command of John Grono. I would be most interested to see the rest of Captain Watson's article on John Grono. Thank you for your kind advises at looking at newspaper indexes. Robert Taylor.

Today celebrates 200 years since Australia's first newspaper which was first published on the 5th March 1803. The "Sydney Gazette" is a very important source of historic material and for the first few decades of the colony it is the only printed source documenting the day to day activities. It was published by George Howe (1769-1821) & subsequently by son Robert Howe (until 1829) and then several others. It was originally published weekly and the editor stated in its first edition "We open no channel to political discussion or personal animadversion [criticism]; information is our only purpose.." George Howe arrived as a convict on the "Royal Admiral" in 1800 and by 1802 was employed as the Government Printer. In 1803 Governor King wrote to Lord Hobart in England and suggests that a weekly publication would be beneficial for the community. King "gave permission to an ingenious man [i.e George Howe] who manages the Government printing press to collect materials weekly" he included several copies of the paper and then states "….the motive which has guided me in granting this indulgence to the inhabutants has been for bettering their condition…" Howe was allowe to use the Government's press & type for the publication but it was accomplished out of his own pocket. By 1811 he was given an annual wage of 60 pounds. The "Sydney Gazette" cost 6d per issue and like newspapers today most of the costs were met by paid advertsiements. The Secretary to the Governor censored each paper. It ceased publication on the 20th October 1842. The Sydney Gazette is available in most large public libraries and research centres on microfilm. In 1964 the Trustees of the Public Library (using money from the Sir William Dixson bequest) and A & R published a Facsimile reproduction from 1803 to 1811 (9 volumes) Each of these volumes are indexed and are very useful for family researchers. An index from the State Library is also available on microfilm covering 1803-1829. As family researchers looking for every piece of available information about our families or localities we are all aware of the value of newspapers. May I suggest if anyone has not consulted the Sydney Gazette is most worthwhile. It is also interesting to read the factual accounts of events including the arrival of Macquarie, the Castle Hill uprising, Hawkesbury floods and so forth. >From the First edition, the first article is headed GENERAL ORDERS and it talks about the "repeated complaints made of the great losses sustained by the Settlers at the Hawkesbury from the vexatious conduct of the Boatmen by whom they send their grain to Sydney" Apparently many of the boats were deemd unsafe and at times the boatmen through quantities of the grain overboard. The Magistrates were directed that action could be taken. Other articles include : · that the Granary at Hawkesbury is being filled with wheat that is spoiling · 15 fugitives fled from Agricultural settlement at Castle Hill & mentions some of the farms they enetered including M. Declamb; Bradley & Bean at Balkham (sic) Hills · the late drought has been severley felt in all parts of the colony (somethings never change) · Full grown fowls available from 2s to 3s · Instructions for preparing a piece of land for a vineyard · Sale of goods from the cargo "Castle of Good Hope" · Court report of Mr R. Fitzgerald vs Samuel Allen · Nautical information · Ship news including boats arriving from the Hawkesbury owners Raby, Miller, Palmer & Jones. · Accidents involving a constable who's musket went off and shot a labourer "through the body, who soon expired" and a Mr J. Eard of Parramatta who was thrown from a carraige. · Deaths of R. Withers 17.3.1803 of apolexy at his Cornwallis Farm. Maria Wood died of consumption om the 28.2.1803, she left 3 daughters, the eldest in the Orphan Asylum. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp

Thanks for that Noelene .... > Hi Diane > Verincourt de Clambe definitely called his house and property "The > Hermitage". The house at 342 Old Northern Road is also called "The > Hermitage". Janet Middleton, grandaughter of Rogans Hill blacksmith, George > Muir, believes that John Rogan built a small house which her grandfather > extended in the early 1900s when he purchased it for his large family. It > seems that de Clambe and Rogan owned some of the same land but it is > difficult to determine whether the house is on the same location. > Noelene Pullen > Development Officer - Local Studies > Baulkham Hills Shire Library

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-dcfd255c-4bc7-11d7-8060-00508bf33b4d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Diane, Verincourt de Clambe definitely called his house and property "The Hermitage". The house at 342 Old Northern Road is also called "The Hermitage". Janet Middleton, grandaughter of Rogans Hill blacksmith, George Muir, believes that John Rogan built a small house which her grandfather extended in the early 1900s when he purchased it for his large family. It seems that de Clambe and Rogan owned some of the same land but it is difficult to determine whether the house is on the same location. Noelene Pullen Development Officer - Local Studies Baulkham Hills Shire Library -----Original Message----- From: Diane [mailto:dianep@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 5:08 PM To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] Verincourt de Clambe - Castle Hill Ooops .... The newspaper article stated that "The Hermitage" was built by de Clambe .... but this *may* be an error. Perhaps it may have been built by John ROGAN, of Rogans Hill. Can anyone clarify that ? Diane > He built a home - The Hermitage - on 100 acres granted to him in > 1802 ( No. 1042 Feb. 1st : Granted 100 acres in the district of > Dundas. Rent : 2 shillings per year commencing after 5 years. > "It being necessary to take off an angle for a public road by Mr. > DeClambe's consent of 14 acres - 28 acres were added at the > upper part of the farm. 11th May, 1804. P.G.K.") ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ------=_NextPartTM-000-dcfd255c-4bc7-11d7-8060-00508bf33b4d Content-Type: text/plain; name="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" ****************************************************************************** Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Baulkham Hills Shire Council. ****************************************************************************** ------=_NextPartTM-000-dcfd255c-4bc7-11d7-8060-00508bf33b4d--

Hello Listers My Great Aunts Rosa & Christina Silva were fostered to families in the Maitland area on the death of their Mother in Duranbah northern NSW in 1897. They were Singalese(from Sri Lanka formerly Ceylon.) In 30 years of research have found little on them. Maybe some family has heard of them. Have searched BDMs, Electoral Rolls etc. Regards Kay

Dear Robert, We recently published -Windsor & Richmond Gazette 1916-1920 newspaper index to births deaths marriages inquests obituaries probates etc - and just thought that we would mention that there are several mentions of JOHN and ELIZABETH GRONO who died in the 1840s. We have just looked at one dated 26 January 1917 page 1 column 2 and suggest that this may be of interest. It is a report (a little over a full column) that refers to Captain James Watson of North Sydney who is researching the Grono history for a book to be published in New Zealand. The article mentions in fair detail, amongst other information, the birth of Capt John Grono in Wales and Elizabeth in London, his arrival in Australia in 1788, his land grant of 200 acres, building his house, farming, ship building (some ships mentioned) he being one of the founders of the church at Ebenezer, his sealing exploits, finding 7 castaways who had been living on an island for 3 years (7 had already died) taking the 7 survivors back home with him, 3 of whom married 3 of his daughters, list of family members births deaths & marriages, etc etc. This index is available at the Hawkesbury Library (Windsor) as are the micro films of the newspaper or at the State Library and some societies, (dont know where you live) it may well be worth a look. There are other references to Capt John & Elizabeth Grono in the above mentioned index on different dates, but we only looked up the one mentioned above. May we suggest that if when researching a specific person, you run across a newspaper index, any newspaper index, always check out the names of interest, even if the index covers a different time frame, as many times they are mentioned in articles looking back in time. Also have a look in the index even if the person didnt live in the district that the newspaper would appear to cover. We recently ran across someone who was researching a marriage for a Miss B A Bottrell of Inverell who was married in Taree and wanted some information. There she was mentioned in the Windsor & Richmond Gazette 1916-1920 newspaper index. Hope the above is of interest, Robert. Best wishes, Rod & Wendy Gow ROBERT TAYLOR wrote: > > I have been trying desperately to find an obituary or some kind of newspaper article in the Hawkesbury or Sydney newspapers for the death of John Grono, 4 May 1847 and Elizabeth Grono (nee Bristow) 4 July 1848 both deaths at Pitt Town. > > Thanks in advance. > > Robert