Windsor & Richmond Gazette, Saturday, March 10, 1900 - page 4 Correspondence. The Pigeon Scare To the Editor - Sir, - Will you permit me space in your excellent paper to ask the Windsor Council if they have taken any active steps to prevent the plague getting a foothold in this town. They cannot say that Windsor is in a proper sanitary condition. It is not - far from it. We have open drains, that horrible cess-pit system, and many other things that are far from healthy. Why cannot the Council, like the Burwood one, purchase some powerful disinfectant and give it to those who cannot afford to buy proper means to have their premises cleansed. Can they not send around proper men to see that disinfectants are freely used ? It is an awful thing to see the plague spreading on all sides, and still that lazy set of men called the Council will not move hand or foot to prevent that fearful scourge from taking root in our own town. Hoping that they'll attend to this most important matter, -- I am, &c., Zeno

Hi John Thanks for the link, I didn't even think about googling. Shall see what else I can find. I was just intrigued by the use of the word Gypsy, have heard and know what a devonshire tea is, thought it may be along the same lines. MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

MargaretB wrote: > Hi List > > Mrs. and Miss Myers and a few friends had an enjoyable gypsy tea on > the river banks on Saturday afternoon. > > Anyone know what a gypsy tea would comprise of.?? > > MargaretB > Lake Macquarie > NSW Australia Don't know if this helps, but a Google search reveals this web site for Gypsy Tea http://www.gypsytea.com/store/contentPages/tea_party.htm John Armstrong Sydney

Hi List Mrs. and Miss Myers and a few friends had an enjoyable gypsy tea on the river banks on Saturday afternoon. Anyone know what a gypsy tea would comprise of.?? MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Windsor & Richmond Gazette, Saturday, March 10, 1900 - page 3 Richmond Mrs. H. Readford has been confined to her room for some days with a serious attack of influenza. A short story entitled "A Kurrajong Romance," written by a district lady, will be published next week. Hares are at present very plentiful. A local sportsman went out one afternoon last week and bagged eight. Mrs. and Miss Myers and a few friends had an enjoyable gypsy tea on the river banks on Saturday afternoon. Mr. W. Allen is building a nice cottage on his property in the Mighell Estate, where he intends to reside in future. Mr. D. Cobcroft took a run to Richmond on Saturday and stayed a couple of days. He looks as hearty as of yore. Another effort should be made to have Richmond streets lighted. Since early closing became the law of the land our town is a dreary, dismal place by night. When the relief of Ladysmith became known St. Peter's enthusiastic rector and Rural Dean hoisted flags on the church tower and rang the bell himself in token of joy and thanksgiving. Messrs. Mitchell and Son have just completed a splendid butcher's cart for Mr. A. Granger, of North Richmond. The cart is of the most modern type, and is fitted with the latest appliances for the carrying of salt meat, etc. A grand concert will be given in the School of Arts on the second night of the Show, in aid of the Kurrajong R.C. Church. Mr. L. De Groen's band will assist, and that fact should be a sufficient inducement to pack the hall. A proposal is afoot to erect a monument over the grave of the of the late Mr. J. L. Thompson by public subscription. All H.A. College students who were at the institution in the late Principal's time should give their mite. By the death of the late Sydney Burdekin the H.A. College lost one of its life Vice Presidents. For some years he had given the diploma medals and handsome book prizes. It is gratifying to know that Mrs. Burdekin will carry on the good work of her late husband in this respect. Mr. G. Bush, of the Royal Hotel, has received a letter from his son, George, who went away to the war some time back with Mr. J. Hoskisson. He is attached to the Rimmington Guides. The letter was addressed from Spion Kop just prior to leaving for the siege of Ladysmith. A continental and moonlight fete will be held at "Yuelbar," the handsome grounds of the Rev. Dr. Cameron, on Friday night, 16th inst. A representation of the pipers of the Scottish Rifles will be given by the Boys Brigade Band, and altogether the fete promises to be an unqualified success. For income tax purposes Mr. W. Mitchell has been overhauling his accounts. He finds that he has paid by cheque for the past twelve months a sum of £759 for wages alone. Apart from this Mr. Mitchell pays the apprentices in cash, and estimates that his wages sheet amounted to over £800. At Dr. Watson's meeting on Wednesday night, Mr. M. Davenport asked the question : Would Dr. Watson be agreeable to allowing the ratepayers to decide as to whether the Common Ranger's wages should be cut down. A sensible idea, and the doctor replied that he would be glad to see it put into practice. Many parishioners have donated books, not necessarily new but in sound condition, to St. Peter's Sunday-school library, in response to an appeal from the rector, and the children have a rich treat in store for them as soon as they are properly labeled and arranged. Mr. Comrie, of "Northfield," Kurrajong, also kindly sent a donation. A special thanksgiving service was held in St. Peter's last Sunday evening for British successes in South Africa, and especially the relief of Ladysmith. The Church was decorated with flags, conspicuous amongst them being the "Union Jack." At the close of the service, during which the Rev. J. Howell Price delivered one of his stirring patriotic addresses, the large congregation joined heartily in the singing of the "Te Deum," followed by the National Anthem.

The archives for this List are at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY/ Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:[email protected] List Admin -----Original Message----- From: Daphne and Gunther Lackner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 11:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HHHV] Re: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-D Digest V06 #123 My computer has deleted the attachment. Is there any other way that I can get this? Regards Daphne

My computer has deleted the attachment. Is there any other way that I can get this? Regards Daphne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 4:00 AM Subject: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-D Digest V06 #123

Hi Lesley Thanks for your email.I have that William Sweets ticket of leave issued in 1841 and across the front is written and i quote {Reported by the [undeciphered]at Maitland in letter dated 11 Sep. 1843 to have been killed by Blacks at New England about 2 years ago} unquote.They say never assume anything but i must look elsewhere. Regards Kevin Sweet.

Dear All I am desperately seeking help in researching the Gooda/Thompson branch of my family tree. Sarah Ann Gooda (b 5 September 1856) in Wollombi NSW married John William Thompson (b 1849 in Black Creek NSW). With a lot of help, I have been able to trace Sarah's family back to England but have had absolutely no luck with John William Thompson. His father was John Thompson (naturally!) and as luck would have it, his mother's name on his marriage certificate is almost unreadable - I think it was Mary Moran but it is only a guess! Regards Daphne

Hi Shirley, I am not responsible for the research on the Convict Trail website, I am just the contact person. RE the name MacDonald River. This river was known as the Second Branch or the Branch for a number of years. There is an old map showing the positions of the farmers along the river which it names the as Second Branch unfortunate I do not know the date of this map or the State Records reference for it, it had H 1679 written on it in several places. Of the names I can make out none are MacDonald. The first reference I have found to the river being called MacDonald is Mrs Felton Mathews wife of the surveyor who when writing in 1833 called the river the MacDonald. In 1820 in letters to the Governor about a land grant it was called The Branch. In the 1828 census people living up the Macdonald gave their place of Residence as Lower Portland Head but this area also referred to Wisemans Ferry and up and down the Hawkesbury for some distance. The 1848 Wells Gazetter has no reference for MacDonald River, it does list most other rivers, but it does list the Macdonald Police District and in the map of that district the river is named MacDonald. I doubt if the river is named after the convict who found the track to Cooranbong now known as Simpsons Track Given the naming pattens of the time it more likely to have been named after an obsecure Government official or a relations of the Felton Matthews. You have set me a challenge. Does any one have an earlier primary reference to that river being called the Macdonald than Mrs Felton Mathew in 1833 or a later reference than my 1820 reference to it being called the Branch. Regards Elizabeth Roberts -----Original Message----- From: Shirley McLeod [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 11:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: MacDonald River Hi All Thanks for those who took the time to answer my question on the naming of the MacDonald River. I am still not quite sure. Elizabeth Roberts on her 'Convict Trail website' has a couple of pages on a John MacDonald who was born in Ireland and sentenced in Scotland to life for theft. He arrived in Sydney on December 28 1820 on 'Asia' and was assigned to Robert Crawford. During that time he became friendly with Aboriginals and they taught him the various tracks. He was with Crawford for 9 years and then received his ticket of leave for discovering a new route. His ticket of leave was cancelled and he was sent to Newcastle. In 1834 he had become a bushranger and lived with Aboriginals where he raided properties and was shot that year at the age of about 31. If Elizabeth is correct I tend to think that he was the person after whom the MacDonald River etc was probably named. This is the website. http://www.convicttrail.org/ Shirley McLeod [email protected]

Hi All Thanks for those who took the time to answer my question on the naming of the MacDonald River. I am still not quite sure. Elizabeth Roberts on her 'Convict Trail website' has a couple of pages on a John MacDonald who was born in Ireland and sentenced in Scotland to life for theft. He arrived in Sydney on December 28 1820 on 'Asia' and was assigned to Robert Crawford. During that time he became friendly with Aboriginals and they taught him the various tracks. He was with Crawford for 9 years and then received his ticket of leave for discovering a new route. His ticket of leave was cancelled and he was sent to Newcastle. In 1834 he had become a bushranger and lived with Aboriginals where he raided properties and was shot that year at the age of about 31. If Elizabeth is correct I tend to think that he was the person after whom the MacDonald River etc was probably named. This is the website. http://www.convicttrail.org/ Shirley McLeod [email protected]

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Candy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [HHHV] MacDonald River Hi Bettt >I have a fascinating addition to your story. You certainly do ........... Mrs HUTTON -NEVE missed a bonanza ! See below - > Mitchell Library Manuscripts A109 (Film CY738) - p.p. > 9-13 > > Title Page: Copy of the Depositions of Lydia McDonald > and John Robinson McVeagh - William and Jane Roberts for > an assault. > > Before D'arcy Wentworth 1818 > > New South Wales. To Wit: Before D'arcy Wentworth, Esq., > One of His Majesty's Justices of the Peace for the > Territory. > > Lydia Macdonald, wife of John Macdonald of Pitt Water in > the Territory of New South Wales, Settler, and John > Robinson McVeagh, Servant to the said Lydia Macdonald, > severally make oath and say And first this Deponent, the > said Lydia Macdonald for herself saith That ever since > the decease of her late Husband, John Benn; William > Roberts of Hunter Street, Sydney and Jane Roberts, his > wife, have taken every occasion to insult and abuse this > Deponent and with the most horrid Oaths have used such > threatening Language > > >>>>>>>>>> Snipped>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Sworn before me this 9th day of February, 1818. > > "Signed" D Wentworth. JP > > "Signed" Lydia McDonald > > "Signed" John Robinson McVeagh OK but what happened next ??????????? Were they charged with assault ? Did she murder John BENN ? You have to finish this story ! Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW

I have a fascinating addition to your story. See below - Mitchell Library Manuscripts A109 (Film CY738) - p.p. 9-13 Title Page: Copy of the Depositions of Lydia McDonald and John Robinson McVeagh - William and Jane Roberts for an assault. Before D'arcy Wentworth 1818 New South Wales. To Wit: Before D'arcy Wentworth, Esq., One of His Majesty's Justices of the Peace for the Territory. Lydia Macdonald, wife of John Macdonald of Pitt Water in the Territory of New South Wales, Settler, and John Robinson McVeagh, Servant to the said Lydia Macdonald, severally make oath and say And first this Deponent, the said Lydia Macdonald for herself saith That ever since the decease of her late Husband, John Benn; William Roberts of Hunter Street, Sydney and Jane Roberts, his wife, have taken every occasion to insult and abuse this Deponent and with the most horrid Oaths have used such threatening Language that she has been constantly in a State of Alarm and unable to proceed peacefully in her lawful Affairs when in Sydney and she positively saith that She always underground to avoid the said William Roberts and his wife and did not (do) anything whatever to provoke them. And this Deponent further saith that on her return home the last time she was in Sydney, namely on Saturday the Thirteenth day of December, last, She was attacked by the said William Roberts in a manner that gives her the greatest apprehension as to her personal safety. She was proceeding in her one-horse Chaise with her infant Child in her arms and the other Deponent was driving the Chaise; when they arrived near Colonel Johnson's Estate on the Parramatta Road, they were met by the said William Roberts, who coming towards Sydney with his Son in a Chaise - And this Deponent further saith that the said William Roberts drew up his Chaise towards this Deponent and as soon as he came close to the side of her, the said William Roberts stopped his Chaise, drew out a Pistol, presents it at this Deponent and with Oaths and the most offensive and indecent Language said: "You Bloody Whore. I'll blow your brains out. You shan't go any further." Upon which the Son of the said William Roberts pilled his Father's arm back and drove on, but the said William Roberts continued to use the most insulting, indecent and threatening Language. And this Deponent further saith that about a fortnight ago as this Deponent was sitting in her own house at Pitt Town, She heard a great noise out of doors, and supposing that some of her Men were quarrelling, She went out when She found the said William Roberts standing on the outside of the pailing, but upon her own Estate using the most horrid Oaths and Imprecations accusing this Deponent of Murdering her former Husband and applying the most indecent, offensive and insulting language to her. And this Deponent further saith That She doth not make this Complaint against the said William Roberts with any hatred, malice or ill-will which She hath xxxx towards him, but mostly for the preservation of her Life and of her Person from bodily harm. And this Deponent the said John Robinson McVeagh for himself saith that he was with the said Lydia Macdonald on the Parramatta Road when She was attacked by the said William Roberts in the manner herein before stated, who presented the Pistol and used the Languages before set forth. Sworn before me this 9th day of February, 1818. "Signed" D Wentworth. JP "Signed" Lydia McDonald "Signed" John Robinson McVeagh Regards Betty Candy ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [HHHV] MacDonald River > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shirley McLeod" <[email protected]> > To: > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:39 AM > Subject: [HHHV] MacDonald River > > > . I was asked the question after whom the MacDonald River > and Valley were named. I believe that it was the convict > turned bushranger John MacDonald but can't find that > exactly > > Hi Shirley > > He was a former convict but unsure about the 'bushranger' > bit > > I have a copy of Mrs HUTTON-NEVEs book ' Forgotten Valley' > a history of the McDonald Valley. In this she says it > wasnt named for nearly 40 yrs after is discovery . It is > said that in the early days of the colony there lived not > far from Pitt Town a wealthy widow who owned a valuable > farm. Among her employees was a fine up-standing, good > looking young man of splendid character, named John > MCDONALD. Was not long before this worthy widow had wedded > him and 2 sons were born , George & William > > I had a poke around some records since the BDMs for this > period are a bit sparse > > In the 1828 census they had 4 chn ........ John McD was > per Guilford 1806 FBS. Lydia was 38 yrs old BC . Found a > marriage of a Lydia BENN to John Mc DONALD 1817 > Castlereagh > There is no baptism of any Lydia born c 1790 . Earliest > is a Lydia CLARKE 1798 . Maybe an older child when > baptised ? . 1806 Muster gives ref to a John BENN per > 'Gorgon' 1806 out on the Hawkesbury FBS. No BENN marriage > to any Lydia. No burial record of any John BENN . There > is an admin ref in the Probate index to a John BENN > series 1 so its an early one but the date is blank > > This is a very interesting book .......... Be a good one > to be reprinted . I picked my copy up ages ago 2nd hand > > Bye > MargM > Beautiful Central Coast of NSW > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget that a busy and informative list is a good one - so don't > become a "Fence Sitter". Speak up ! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley McLeod" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: [HHHV] MacDonald River . I was asked the question after whom the MacDonald River and Valley were named. I believe that it was the convict turned bushranger John MacDonald but can't find that exactly Hi Shirley He was a former convict but unsure about the 'bushranger' bit I have a copy of Mrs HUTTON-NEVEs book ' Forgotten Valley' a history of the McDonald Valley. In this she says it wasnt named for nearly 40 yrs after is discovery . It is said that in the early days of the colony there lived not far from Pitt Town a wealthy widow who owned a valuable farm. Among her employees was a fine up-standing, good looking young man of splendid character, named John MCDONALD. Was not long before this worthy widow had wedded him and 2 sons were born , George & William I had a poke around some records since the BDMs for this period are a bit sparse In the 1828 census they had 4 chn ........ John McD was per Guilford 1806 FBS. Lydia was 38 yrs old BC . Found a marriage of a Lydia BENN to John Mc DONALD 1817 Castlereagh There is no baptism of any Lydia born c 1790 . Earliest is a Lydia CLARKE 1798 . Maybe an older child when baptised ? . 1806 Muster gives ref to a John BENN per 'Gorgon' 1806 out on the Hawkesbury FBS. No BENN marriage to any Lydia. No burial record of any John BENN . There is an admin ref in the Probate index to a John BENN series 1 so its an early one but the date is blank This is a very interesting book .......... Be a good one to be reprinted . I picked my copy up ages ago 2nd hand Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW

Hi listers I have been teaching my U3A class about the Great Northern Road..thanks to Elizabeth Roberts' great website...The Convict Trail. I was asked the question after whom the MacDonald River and Valley were named. I believe that it was the convict turned bushranger John MacDonald but can't find that exactly . Can someone please help. Regards Shirley McLeod Shirley McLeod [email protected]

HI SORELLE Would appreciate a photo-copy of Emily and William Draytons grave. Ann Sweet died 1901 at Richmond although Ann and William never married according to Williams death certificate.Anns surname was Honeysett and her direct line can be traced back to 1540 [and beyond] in Sussex England.She came to Australia on the ship Strathfieldsay with her sister Jane and brother-inlaw John Colbran in 1839. If you would like information obout the Honeysett family go to this site. http://www.hunnisett.org.uk/ I would recomend this site to anyone researching the Honeysett name. Regards Kevin.

Henry Parkes was also on this ship. Regards Betty Candy ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin sweet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 6:49 AM Subject: [HHHV] WILLIAM SWEET > HI SORELLE > Would appreciate a photo-copy of Emily and William Draytons grave. > Ann Sweet died 1901 at Richmond although Ann and William never married > according to Williams death certificate.Anns surname was Honeysett and > her direct line can be traced back to 1540 [and beyond] in Sussex > England.She came to Australia on the ship Strathfieldsay with her sister > Jane and brother-inlaw John Colbran in 1839. > If you would like information obout the Honeysett family go to this > site. http://www.hunnisett.org.uk/ > I would recomend this site to anyone researching the Honeysett name. > Regards Kevin. > > > ==== AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the List Mode send an email with the word ubsubscribe > in the subject heading to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006

Hello I'm new to the list, and was wondering if there is anyone out there tracing John Haswell. He was a convict. The marriage to Harriet is listed as Aswell. John and Harriet (Oram) had two daughters. Just not sure where. Jan in sunny Ne Vic

I have listed a whole stack of Books relating to Aust Genealogy on E-bay for sale Clearing the bookshelves and spare room out of excesses that I no longer need. Search under Genealogy on E-bay Regards Susan Stubbs [email protected] [email protected]