Windsor & Richmond Gazette, Saturday, March 10, 1900 - page 1 THE "GREEN HILLS." Pubs, Breweries, Beer That Windsor folk enjoyed themselves in those "good old days," we have abundant proof in the number of public houses, for no doubt much of the enjoyment consisted in getting outside large quantities of beer and other fluids. It is an English fashion so to do, and, unfortunately, we bring too many of our "Home" customs with us. It has been variously estimated that Windsor has had at one time over 40, 32, 19, 17 public houses. True, there are now only seven in the town ; but the old hostelries attract one's notice at many points - and they tell me as plainly as words can speak "I was once an inn," and, roughly I can count no less than 16, without doubting for one moment the nature of the business once carried on in these old houses. Then there was the "old brewery" - and I confess to being sorry to see it lying low, for either as a brewery, or better still, a jam factory, it would have been more use to the town standing. It may have been built on too low ground, tho! ugh had ordinary care been taken of the fine old pile it might have been put to some good use for many a year. Anyway, the size of the old building as I knew it, and the fine stables at the rear, indicated a big business in tangle - and if such tipple be good for thirsty people and they will have it, better that it should be brewed on the spot. The existing hotels seem to be doing a fair thing, and I was glad to find, after a ten years' absence, three of the seven houses in the same hands, though I missed Mrs. Bushell at the "Royal" and Johnny Gough at the "Fitzroy." A Gloomy Town at Night The Early Closing fake operates against the town in a sense, though good must come of it. The absence of brilliantly lit shop windows, and but a sorry "glim" of light in the public lamps, do not tend to improve Windsor's streets o'nights, though on Saturday night I thought the old town looked much about the same as it did ten years ago. Some Improvements The improvements affected by Messrs. Beard and Greenwell, Mortley, Robertson, Holland, Pye and others, have materially improved the town's appearance, though, unfortunately, many of the old rookeries of my day are not only still standing, but even more disreputable than ever in their age and decrepitude. To speak plainly, the few improvements do not compensate for the ill effect produced by dilapidated hovels, which were better out of the way. All honour to the few that have improved their properties, and the buildings on the block known as the site of "Boston's fire" redeem that end of the town ; yet another fire would prove a public benefit, though may be a trifling loss to individuals. Windsor is not singular in this matter, for we find all of our older towns similarly affected. The Churches The churches look fairly well - the Wesleyan not so smart as I have seen it , but the Presbyterian very much better. St. Matthew's Church of England has certainly been greatly improved internally, and there is now an excellent opportunity for a few large hearted, amply endowed churchmen to add to the fine stained glass windows, and if money could be raised to remove that pepper-box attachment from the massive square tower and raise thereon a graceful spire, it would be much to the purpose. St. Matthew's is a fine old building, and Windsor churchmen should be proud of it. And that reminds me, within range of the clergyman's voice, is the grave of Andrew Thompson, the famous emancipist magistrate, who was specially favoured by Macquarie. Thompson was not ungrateful, for he left the Governor a considerable fortune - made out of usury, illicit traffic in rum, and other things no doubt - but for which we may forgive him, considering the times in which he lived. Macquar! ie certainly erected a tomb to his protégé's memory, and if he had left a sum of money in trust to keep it in good order one would not now see the stone lying prone and the inscription partially defaced. An attempt was made some years ago to shame the district magistrates into hoisting the ledger on its four legs (columns), but there it lies still, and a number of fairly well-to-do Justices of the Peace must know it. If Thompson was a person so iniquitous as to be unworthy of remembrance, let the stone stay where it is ; but many virtues have been ascribed to him which, when weighed against his vices, may balance in his favour. Besides, vice didn't die with Andrew Thompson, nor can we believe that the magistrates of the district since 1810 (the year of his death) had all been transcendently virtuous. Whether Windsor congregations have improved I can not say, though 25, all told, does not seem a large congregation for so roomy a building as the Wesleyans have. I remembe! r the Rev. Alfred Swift in 1872, 3 at Gulgong, and it occurs to me tha t two score and five persons is a small crowd for so good a man to preach to. The Presbyterians appear to do better - or was it only for the occasion ? - for the church was comfortably full. The singing was most pleasing, and the sermon such as one would expect from so capable a man as the Rev. C. A. White, B.A., Windsor, whatever it has been in the past, has been called "a religious town." If religion consists in going to church, then it is not a religious town ; for closing the public house door on Sundays, and being shut off from all the world for 36 hours (neither trains nor telegraphs) have had but little effect in stirring the people into religious activity. Of course, I do not say that people who do not go to church are irreligious, no more than I adjudge those vicious who clamour persistently for "a train both ways o'Sundays." In fact, I include in my scheme for recuperating Windsor, Sunday trains, with, or without, certain hours in the day being allotted for g! etting a drink at a pub. I am not a very great patron of "mine host," but I get thirsty on Sundays as well as other days. The buildings of the Catholic community have also undergone a great change. In the place of the lat Rev. John Hayes they have now a young parish priest, who has accomplished wonders. The church was beautified internally in the late priest's time, and also renovated outwardly. Since Father McDonnell came the Presbytery has been completely transformed, and is now a handsome and comfortable-looking structure. The Congregational body are without a minister, and in their little church there is no difference. The manse has been let to Mrs. Wilbow since the departure of the Rev. Thomas Moore, and a "Supply" is sent from Sydney to hold services. The School of Arts A small improvement has been made in the School of Arts ; the hall enlarged, also the platform, the plaster ceiling removed and wood substituted. Very good as far as they go, but more should be done. If the old building is to continue as a School of Arts, then it should be brought out to the alignment with a broad passage in the centre of the hall, with small rooms on either side for secretary and caretaker. Over these a second storey should be built, and the room so added should be the library. But the hall can never let to theatrical people until that semi-circular end is squared off, and plenty of depth given for stage purposes. This done, and two dressing rooms added - one on each side - the old building should be fairly useful. But would it be possible to sell the building and land, and with the proceeds, and a loan (to be borrowed on security of the new property) to build a modernized hall in a central position - say the corner opposite the Post Office ? O! f course, I do not know whether the present proprietor of that can sell ; if he can, and the price be not altogether outrageous, the venture I have suggested is well within the bounds of reason. Let us suppose such a building ; the hall, with modern stage proscenium and side dressing-rooms, to be in the centre, back from the street, and approached by a fine arched staircase at corner ; on the two frontages on George and Fitzgerald streets shops could be erected, and offices overhead. What an ornament to the town ! How advantageous to members ! What a saving of abuse to committee men ! What a throw in for the Borough Council ! How much better foe everybody ! Is there energy enough in Windsor to tackle such a job - faith and foresight enough to say, "Paul, old man, you are right ; we'll go into it with our coats off."

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Windsor & Richmond Gazette, Saturday, March 10, 1900 - page 1 THE "GREEN HILLS." "A town, a river, hills and trees, Blue-bounded by the boundless sky." - J. Brunton Stephens. TEN years in a man's life-time soon pass by ; he notes but few changes ; as things are to-day, so they were in the beginning at the decade. Yet, if we add other decades - even up to ten - how remote that period seems. Thus, the contrast between to-day and ten years ago - in the old town of Windsor that is - does not appear to me as very striking ; but when I come to reflect upon the changes of a century or so - what Phillip's "Green Hills" were like when that sturdy old sailor so named the low hills upon which now stands our century-old town, and the town to-day in its grime of age and iron-stone dust - the vista is a long one. And the old town looks its age - looked, the other day when I came into it after an absence of ten years, unconscionably old - older, it seemed to me, than its ancient namesake on Thames/ There the age is real. Time leaves its mark upon stone, bricks and mortar, but does not destroy as it does here. We speak of our "old Church," our "old Court ! House," our "old hotels," whereas they are as infants compared with old buildings in Windsor on Thames. Is it because of climatic influences, or that the people are careless and neglectful ? I am inclined to believe the latter, for one cannot notice how soon our people like to be :off with the old and on with the new" ; how they lack in reverence for the things that are old - books, pictures, buildings - even men and women. It is easy to understand it ; the country is still young, have young ideas - they live for the future, not for the past. History has no charm for them - the past history of the colony being too black and unworthy of remembrance. Buildings of the Macquarian period have been much admired for their massiveness rather than their architectural beauty, and are still held up as good examples to builders. Yet old buildings in Sydney, and other colonial towns, have collapsed quite early, and both workmanship and material have been found very inferior - the ! bricks soft and the mortar innocent of lime. Because in the "good old days" labour was cheap and abundant, and plenty of time given for construction, it was assumed that the work must necessarily be good ; but "good" work (work not in the "jerry" line) to-day is very much superior, for bricks are better made and burned and skilled labour very much nearer perfection. Still, such buildings as Windsor Court House, St. Matthew's Church, and the Police Barracks should be good for another century, with repairs at intervals. Neither are yet a century old - and it would be interesting to know which of all Windsor's old buildings is of that age. According to Heaton, Windsor, as Windsor dates from 1810, and therefore is not yet a "century old town." If, however, we are to believe old records, there must have been a considerable settlement at the 'Green Hills' as early as 1790, for Phillip was rowed up the river in 1789. Ruse settled on the river in 1791, and George Barrington, Chief Constable, ex-pick-pocket, gentleman of ease, etc., etc., also ow! ned land in the district as early as 1797 - in fact, his farm on the Hawkesbury was sold by auction at Parramatta on the 2nd January, 1805. Another Chief Constable, Andrew Thompson, emancipist, etc., also owned land on the Hawkesbury as early as 1796 ; and Lieut. William Cox (sometimes called "Captain" Cox) settled in the Hawkesbury district pretty early, for he was appointed Police Magistrate (Parramatta) in 1800, and removed with his family to the Hawkesbury in 1804. So that it is reasonable to suppose that Windsor's birth-date was away back in the nineties of last century. Another early settler at Windsor was James Hardy Vaux, a noted pick-pocket - also a gentleman of the Barrington type. It was in Governor King's time (1800-1806) that he was sent to the "Green Hills" as a clerk, and while holding that position he taught Dr. Arndell's four children in his leisure hours. Later on Vaux was C.P.S. at Parramatta, and in 1806 left the colony in H.M.S. Buffalo, as Captain King's private secretary. Vaux found himself a prisoner in the colony again in 1810 ; and once more in Windsor, the assigned servant of John Benn (local cognomen "Big Ben"). This Vaux was even a more noted person than either Thompson, Barrington or Holt ; felon was bred in the bone, for having got away from Benn, he became overseer of "the gang" in Sydney. Transitions were frequent with him, for he soon got 12 mon! ths for theft (put in at the "Coal River" - the Hunter) ; escaped, caught, and sent back for another 12 months ; was then pardoned, became Storekeeper's clerk, then clerk in the Secretary's office, and finally "sacked" (in 1826). "Old Government House" was built probably, by Hunter ; there is no record to show it, however, and the building has been ascribed to Macquarie - which is certainly a mistake - though it may have been built by Bligh. So with the Courthouse - its date of building is uncertain. We are told, however, that "a small Courthouse was built near the goal in 1821," which may be the building we know, or it may not. Names We Know. Of course the building of St. Matthew's Church has been duly noted and fully detailed - the reason being, no doubt, because the church authorities kept better account of their doings than officers of the civil government did of theirs ; though strange to say registers of burials in the district have not been well kept ; and it is simply disgraceful the way the dead have been interred in the past - reverently enough, perhaps, but neither order or system has obtained in their lodgements in Mother Earth. Windsor in the "Old Days" - say all through Macquarie's time, and up to Fitzroy's - must have been a pretty lively town ; for not only were there prisoners and their civil guards, but soldiers over all, with "soger ossifers" for magistrates ; Cox, Brabyn, North, to wit. Thus Windsor's streets are named after military officers, prominent civilians and noted emancipists ; thus Baker, Brabyn, Dight, Fitzgerald, Kable, North, Cox, Mileham, Palmer, Johnstone, Day, Thompson, ! Forbes, Tebbutt, Moses - together with George, Macquarie, Pitt, Cornwallis, Suffolk. Why the names of Arndell, Howe, Marsden, Fulton, Bell, Cartwright, Ridge and Primrose were not so perpetuated puzzles me. Lieutenant Primrose (73rd Regiment) formerly 'Ensign' Primrose was no doubt the ancestor of Alderman Primrose. By the bye, Earl Rosebery is a Primrose ; can there be any relationship ? Officers of the British army in the "good old days" were invariably somebodies - for the uprising of Tommy Atkins from the ranks to a Colonelcy was too awful to be thought of. Anyhow, with a detachment of infantry stationed in Windsor - the nom coms and men down at the Barracks, and the officers up at the "corner" - (now the "Royal") things must have hummed considerably ; and when the slim waisted, tight pantalooned young swells of the 73rd, 48th and 50th faced the young demoiselles of the town in a minuet, or galloped them round in a polka or waltz, matters must have been a trifle su! ltry - that is to say, in those days Windsor was not exactly a tee-tot al jam-sandwich Sunday-go-to-meeting sort of place. Anyway, does not a local poet sing ; "The giddy dancers are upon the floor. Little they think their revelries must o'er. The dawn of morning through the window peeps Whilst there a weary maiden nymph-like sleeps."

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Windsor & Richmond Gazette, Saturday, March 10, 1900 - page 3 Town Gossip At the Debating Society's meeting on Tuesday last several of the junior members essayed their maiden speeches, and some acquitted themselves well. The debate on the Gothenberg System being preferable to Total Prohibition proved very interesting. Doubtless if the young men persevere, and when they speak say "something," they must of necessity improve themselves. The Society is doing a power of good, and in the near future we may look for a crop of young orators. Thursday next will be a public holiday of account of the Nepean Show. Mr. J. Smallwood has been removed to Penrith, and with his family has gone there to reside. Mr. William Fitzgerald has gone to Bowral to work for Mr. W. Keogh, who has a road contract there. It is likely that the Hon. J. L. Fegan, Minister of Agriculture, will officially open the next Hawkesbury Show. Mrs. Butler, wife of the well-known river trader, skipper Joe Butler, has been on a holiday to the Clarence River. Mr. Simon Wilson's orchard at Glenorie was sold for something like £75, Mr. H. Rogers of Windsor being the purchaser. A concert will be held at the Vineyards on Thursday evening, March 15th, at 7.30 p.m., in aid of the funds of the Church of England. Mr. Brinsley Hall will in all probability be junior captain of the Hawkesbury Lancer Squadron, if it becomes an established fact. And a good man, too. Mr. Arthur Collison has been home to his parents' place recruiting his health. Arthur has had a serious illness, and is still an invalid, but convalescing. The marriage took place last month of Mr. Claude Everingham, son of the late Matthew Everingham, of Windsor, to Miss Ada Carver, eldest daughter of Mr. W. Carver, of Moree. No less than 77 cases were set down for hearing at the local Land Court this week, the greatest number ever dealt with by this Court at one time. The sitting extended over three days. Intending contributors to the "Manuscript Journal" of the Windsor L. and D. Society should send in their papers early next week, as the journal is to be read on the 20th inst. Mr. Bloome, the genial host of the Royal Hotel, is offering a lovely new crisp pound note for the best cob of corn raised in the district. It will be decided by the greatest weight of grain. We publish this week the first instalment of an article on the "Green Hills," as Windsor was called in early times, from the pen of "Paul Twyford." It will be concluded next week. A big batch of summonses has been issued at the instance of Mr. J. C. L. Fitzpatrick, for the recovery of back accounts ; and they are likely to occupy a whole days' hearing at the ensuing Small Debts Court. While Mr. J. Brown was turning Mr. Viney's corner on his 'bike' on Tuesday, he and the machine had a dispute, and decided to separate. Each went his own way, Brown losing about two and sixpence worth off his knees. The Minister for Works has decreed that all road contracts signed after March 1st shall contain a provision making imperative the payments of 7/- a day for labourers and union wages for all skilled workmen. This is a step in the right direction. On Sunday evening the Rev. C. A. White, B.A., will deliver the second of his series of addresses on Social and Industrial Problems. The subject for this address will be "The abuse of wealth." There will be special music, and all are cordially invited to the church. Repeated applications have been made to us for schedules of the H.D.A.A.'s show. One subscriber has called no less than six times within the past month, and has given up all hope of every getting one. It is not understood why the Association is so late in issuing the schedules this year. In former times they were available quite four months prior to the date of the exhibition, and here we are within two months of the event. When kudos was being ladled out at the Lancer meeting on Wednesday night, one gentleman who did perhaps more practical work than anyone else connected with the movement was entirely ignored. We know it was purely an oversight, and do not reproach anyone. We refer to Mr. Hilton Clarke, the popular manager of the local Dairy Company. Of our own knowledge we can say that he worked hard in getting signatures to a petition, and was at it till a very late hour on several nights. Also, the big meeting was due in a great measure to Mr. Clarke's zeal, and we merely refer to this matter because we like to see credit given where it is due.

Windsor & Richmond Gazette, Saturday, March 10, 1900 - page 5 Sackville As you have not heard from me for some time, I might inform you that farming operations are pretty well at a standstill for want of rain. The operations of most of the settlers are confined to a narrow stretch of country along the river banks, where choice fruits grow in dry seasons. Further inland are to be seen a few struggling settlers improving the country on the ridges and valleys below, making a living by growing passion and other kinds of fruit, and getting honey about the bush, which is very good this time of the year. A stranger, a close observer, riding along the road would say the country was in a prosperous condition to see such a lot of fine growing crops exposed to view. By way of progress we are moving on. Two additional dwelling-houses will shortly be added to the number about the village, and as time advances the population about the river will become more numerous. I would advise the married folk to apprentice their sons to some good tradesman to learn a trade to enable them to strike out in the country and do for themselves when they arrive at manhood. There is nothing in farming these days but a bare living - and plenty of hard work to get that. All the available land for agriculture is occupied and young people growing up will have a poor show indeed in getting a bit of good country to settle down upon. I am of the opinion a good blacksmith about Sackville would find plenty to do. Fifty years ago we had a tradesman of that sort, and he always had plenty of shoeing and other work to occupy his time. I bought potatoes this season down here at one shilling a bag, good eating potatoes. I never heard of potatoes selling so cheaply about here before. We have had a plentiful supply of peaches and tomatoes all the summer. Work will always be plentiful in this neighbourhood simply for the reason that were we idlers the country we cultivate would soon run wild. The long spell of dry weather has broken up at last. A nice drop of rain fell here this week, which will do an immense amount of good in many ways. It is rumoured that we are to have another steamer excursion shortly, this time to Newport or thereabouts, and lasting a couple of days. It will probably be well patronized in spite of the fact that there are short trips on the river by way of excursions nearly every week. The bulk of the summer fruit along the river has been sent away, that is if we except the large quantity that has gone to waste on the ground in orchards. The little fresh in the river a week or two back has driven all the fish away, down to somewhere near the Ferry, much to the disappointment of our local fishermen, who making nice hauls occasionally in the Reach. The vintage at Tizzana is in full swing, but although the crop is considered to be a very fair one, it does not take Mr. Laraghy long with his big staff of men to get it into the cellars. The Kurrajong cricketers did not turn up on Saturday to keep their engagement with the "Parks." Perhaps they thought the game wasn't worth a candle. The Park Villa Boys intend making a big try to bring off their big match, against the College, which starts on Saturday next. Let us hope there will be no unpleasantness engendered over the match, as it is this kind of thing which kills the noble game. General satisfaction was expressed here when word was received of Cronje's surrender. It is to be hoped that this blow to the Boers is the beginning of the end, as war in its brightest garb is neither more nor less than wholesale murder.

Windsor & Richmond Gazette, Saturday, March 10, 1900 - page 4 Riverstone We understand that Mr. Benny Woods is about to remove to Windsor. Seventy-five points of rain fell here on Tuesday, but much more is required. Mr. Alf Cambridge has taken up his position in the local Post and Telegraph office. Some of the local sporting people struck the Newmarket and Australian Cup double. There is likely to be an assault case, or one of causing grievous bodily harm, heard at the Windsor Police Court shortly. Mr. L. J. Darling has on view in his window a number of war pictures, which are interesting and a great attraction. Mr. Stanley Schofield, who was removed to Albury, is now relieving at Tocumwal, where he will be for a couple of months. Miss Edwards was in town last Saturday afternoon. Miss Edwards is the owner of the cottage previously owned by her late father, Wm. Edwards. Nothing is now heard about the Park which the Riverstone people were agitating for some time ago. When will anyone make a move in the matter again. Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Hayes, accompanied by Mr. J. Hayes, junr., visited Riverstone this week. They have the happy knack of not looking a bit older than when they left Riverstone some years ago. Railway carpenters have been engaged doing some repairs to the station here. A verandah post was snatched out on the street side of the station through someone tying a horse to it. New flooring was put in, as well as a new post. Mr. John Phelan has left Riverstone, and gone into the back blocks. He is of opinion that he can hit on a good job. Jack was always known to be a straight goer when here, and being an industrious young man he should get along anywhere. The tea meeting in connection with St. Paul's Church will be held next Wednesday. The ladies are holding meetings to carry out arrangements, and Mrs. Wheaton is canvassing the district for subscriptions in aid of it. A big affair is expected. The benefit concert in aid of Mr. George Scholey was largely attended on Saturday night, and an enjoyable entertainment was given by Miss Elsie Wiggins and her assistants. As the particulars have not come to hand, we are unable to make any further reference to the concert this week. Are Vineyards friends are to have a concert in aid of the Church of England funds on Thursday. Mrs. Moss and Mrs. T. Schoffel are leading spirits in the affair. The original date selected was Wednesday, but when the promoters found that Riverstone church people had a tea meeting and concert fixed for that day, they generously gave way, although their date had been chosen some time ago. The local cricketers proved themselves at Richmond to be players of no mean ability. They also possess a lion's share of gameness. It is pretty well known that Richmond boasted of downing them with the least possible trouble, but they have failed. It was asserted that the score compiled by the Riverstone players in the first innings was only a fluke as Klein (who has the reputation of being a trundler) was taken off when he was just about getting the pitch ; and it is also reported that a certain Richmond player said "Well, if you lose the game you can attribute the loss to me." Now, if we review the game we find that although this fine bowler, Klein, was given a good show in the second innings Riverstone exhibited even better play than in the first innings.

Thanks Lynette Much appreciated - he must therefore have a few descendants around still Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich -----Original Message----- From: lynnette brown [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 20 June 2006 7:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Joseph SMITH - per Neptune 1790 Hi Lorrae Issue for Joseph Smith Jnr & Mary Hannabus: George Banks Smith b 1826, d 1902 m Elizabeth Walker Elizabeth b 1828 d 1830 Charlotte b 1830 d 1898 m Samuel Blackman Mary Ann b 1832 d 1837 Sarah b1834 d ? Margaret b 1839 d? Joseph b 1841 d 1919 m Jane Lewis Elizabeth b 1843 Edward James b 1847 d 1847 Herbert James b 1849 I have copies of birth certs for Joseph Jnr, William & MarySmith also have a copy of Joseph & Margaret's marriage cert if you would like copies. Subject: Joseph SMITH - per Neptune 1790 > Advice please. > >> > 1 Joseph SMITH 1776-1856 Burial: St Albans, NSW, Aust > .. +Margaret HOLMES c1774-1859 arrival: 1791 "MARY ANN" Convict > ....... 2 Joseph SMITH 1804-1856 > ........... +Mary HANNABAS Married: 1838 Pitt Town, NSW, Aust - any > issue?? > ....... 2 William SMITH 1809-1881 > ........... +Elizabeth BAKER 1810-1878 Father: William BAKER Mother: > Mary Ann RAYCROFT > ....... 2 Mary Ann SMITH 1811-1912 > ........... +William BAKER 1808-1857 Father: William BAKER Mother: > Mary Ann RAYCROFT > ....... 2 Thomas G SMITH 1815 > > Can someone please confirm: > > 1. that there were only four children, > 2. did Joseph or Thomas have any issue? > > Thank you. > > Lorrae > Glenore Grove Qld 4342 > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich > > ______________________________ ______________________________ __________ NOD32 1.1606 (20060617) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. part000.txt - file is not an archive http://www.eset.com

Windsor & Richmond Gazette, Saturday, March 10, 1900 - page 4 Richmond On the receipt of news of the relief of Ladysmith, flags, etc., were hoisted on different business houses and other places in town. Great enthusiasm and general rejoicing were manifested. A quiet wedding will shortly take place, the parties being well known in town. Rumour has it that a breach of promise case is on the cards, and will shortly come off. The gentleman concerned does not reside very far from Richmond. Dr. Watson pointed out a big anomaly in our railway fares on Monday night. A second-class excursion ticket to Sydney from here is 4/5 return, from Windsor 2/10. The ordinary return between the sister towns is 11d., but on an excursion ticket it is made 1/7. There is no doubt, Richmond is badly treated in regard to train fares, and we wonder they don't boycott the commissioners and walk to Windsor instead of availing themselves of the privileges of excursion tickets. We are told that a levanting road contractor has left a few sorrowing creditors behind. Mr. O'Sullivan's 7/- a day clause in all road contracts ought to stop this sort of practice, and contractors ought also to be made find sureties for a sufficient sum to cover the contract. Messrs. Guest and Skuthorp will sell the grandstand luncheon room for the forthcoming show on Wednesday. The sale takes place on the showground at 3 p.m. The gates, booths, and refreshment stalls in connection with the Kurrajong Picnic Races, to be held on March 17, will be sold by Messrs. Guest and Skuthorp, at Town's Hotel, North Richmond, at 4 p.m. to-day (Saturday). We would warn a certain individual (the man who got a smack in the face with a bunch of grapes on Wednesday) that it will be well for him to keep away from H. A. College for a while. A few of the students declare by all that is good that they will tar and feather him if ever they get a favourable opportunity. A certain know-all fell in at the College on Wednesday and made himself ridiculous when trying to air his knowledge of things he knows nothing about. The pitying smile of the Sydney reporters when he vouchsafed information about the "Rockdale and St Leonard's Times" (!) must have made him feel akin to a character of the immortal bard when he exclaimed "write me down an ass." Some specimens of the products of the Agricultural College farm were displayed on the verandah of the College offices on Wednesday. They attracted much attention from the visitors. The Japanese student, Mr. M. Kanematsu, must be a general favourite at the College, judging by the vociferous applause that greeted him when he came forward to receive his certificate and book prizes on Wednesday. Mr. M. E. Kirwan came home on Thursday, after a month's leave of absence. The only candidates nominated for the extra-ordinary vacancy in the Council were Mr. Alfred Smith and Mr. C. H. Ausburn. Through some misunderstanding Dr. Watson was not nominated. The Continental and moonlight fete to be held in Dr. Cameron's grounds on Friday night next will be an uncommonly attractive entertainment. It is going to be a real "Continental," and the attractions will be new and novel. The pipers of the Scottish Rifles (5th Regiment) will be present, and will render their own peculiar music, and the Highland fling and sword dance will be given by one of the pipers. The Boys' Brigade band will make its first public appearance, and the modest fee of 1/- will admit adults, while the boys and girls will be passed in for 6d. each.

Windsor & Richmond Gazette, Saturday, March 10, 1900 - page 5 Kurrajong Mr. De Groen, who is on a visit to Mr. M. McMahon, of Comleroy Road, on Saturday and Sunday. Mrs. De Groen has been staying there during the past week or two, and remains for a further change. Mr. De Groen returned to Sydney on Monday. Messrs. G. Woodhill, G. McCauley, and W. I. Perry had a trip to Comleroy Road on Sunday, and had a good time - as three such jolly "boys" always do. The concert to be given in Richmond in aid of the Kurrajong R. C. Church on the second night of the Show is to be something out of the common. We understand that Mr. De Groen is going to bring his fine band up for the occasion.

Hi Lorrae Issue for Joseph Smith Jnr & Mary Hannabus: George Banks Smith b 1826, d 1902 m Elizabeth Walker Elizabeth b 1828 d 1830 Charlotte b 1830 d 1898 m Samuel Blackman Mary Ann b 1832 d 1837 Sarah b1834 d ? Margaret b 1839 d? Joseph b 1841 d 1919 m Jane Lewis Elizabeth b 1843 Edward James b 1847 d 1847 Herbert James b 1849 I have copies of birth certs for Joseph Jnr, William & MarySmith also have a copy of Joseph & Margaret's marriage cert if you would like copies. Subject: Joseph SMITH - per Neptune 1790 > Advice please. > >> > 1 Joseph SMITH 1776-1856 Burial: St Albans, NSW, Aust > .. +Margaret HOLMES c1774-1859 arrival: 1791 "MARY ANN" Convict > ....... 2 Joseph SMITH 1804-1856 > ........... +Mary HANNABAS Married: 1838 Pitt Town, NSW, Aust - any > issue?? > ....... 2 William SMITH 1809-1881 > ........... +Elizabeth BAKER 1810-1878 Father: William BAKER Mother: > Mary Ann RAYCROFT > ....... 2 Mary Ann SMITH 1811-1912 > ........... +William BAKER 1808-1857 Father: William BAKER Mother: > Mary Ann RAYCROFT > ....... 2 Thomas G SMITH 1815 > > Can someone please confirm: > > 1. that there were only four children, > 2. did Joseph or Thomas have any issue? > > Thank you. > > Lorrae > Glenore Grove Qld 4342 > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich > > ______________________________

Windsor & Richmond Gazette, Saturday, March 19, 1900 - page 4 IN MEMORIAM Fitzpatrick. - In loving memory of our dear brother, Herbert J. K. Fitzpatrick, who died at Suva, Fiji, February 29th, 1896. He has faded from our vision Like a calm, sweet summer day; But the memory of his goodness Shall never pass away. [Scanned image available]

Advice please. In 1790, the Neptune arrived in Sydney. On board were two of my ancestors, Charles CROSS and Rose FLOOD. Also on board was William BAKER and Joseph SMITH. I know that their descendants inter-married, in that CROSS-FLOOD descendants are also BAKER descendants and SMITH descendants. I have not followed Joseph SMITH's descendants except where they married into my CROSS-FLOOD line. 1 Joseph SMITH 1776-1856 Burial: St Albans, NSW, Aust .. +Margaret HOLMES c1774-1859 arrival: 1791 "MARY ANN" Convict ....... 2 Joseph SMITH 1804-1856 ........... +Mary HANNABAS Married: 1838 Pitt Town, NSW, Aust - any issue?? ....... 2 William SMITH 1809-1881 ........... +Elizabeth BAKER 1810-1878 Father: William BAKER Mother: Mary Ann RAYCROFT ....... 2 Mary Ann SMITH 1811-1912 ........... +William BAKER 1808-1857 Father: William BAKER Mother: Mary Ann RAYCROFT ....... 2 Thomas G SMITH 1815 Can someone please confirm: 1. that there were only four children, 2. did Joseph or Thomas have any issue? Thank you. Lorrae Glenore Grove Qld 4342 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

Hi Carole Volume 1 has John Ryan b 1768 no William as issue Roger Ryan b 1822, has a son William James b 10/9/1862 North Richmond Thomas Ryan b 1852 (son of Roger). Volume 2 has Barnabas/Bernard Ryan b 1804 (arrived from Ireland 1836). Regards Lynne Subject: Pioneer register Book > Do any one know if there is a Pioneer Book for the area,and that also > covers Kurrajong, Im looking for information on William Ryan who was there > in 1850's,thanks carole > ______________________________

Hi Carol Not sure if the Hawkesburuy Pioneer Registers will assist. I have checked the main entries and none are listed, there is a mention of a William Ryan (father of Barnabas) so I am unsure if this what you are looking for? Am sending the main entries for Ryan in both volumes. If you find you wou would like to contact the contributors, (Numbers listed in brackets after each entry) email me offline and I will send you their addresses. There are also a number of Ryan's listed in the Cemetery register and Church register online at www.hawkesbury.net.au The Hawkesbury Pioneer Registers are still available for sale through the Hawkesbury Family History group and an order form is located at www.hawkesbury.net.au/community/hfhg/HPR_Order_Form.pdf Cheers Michelle Nichols Hawkesbury Pioneer Register Vol. 1 (1994) RYAN, JOHN b ca.1768 LND ENG d ca.1806. Arr 26-1-1788 "Friendship" convict m 1791 Norfolk Island to SARAH WOOLLEY b ca.1768 LND ENG d 12-4-1809 McKenzies Creek bur Mulgrave Place. Arr 27-6-1790 "Neptune" convict. Sarah Woolley also m William Mason. Issue: Elizabeth b 28-11-1792 Norfolk Is d 13-11-1836 Windsor m 9-1-1810 Roger Connor d 1-10-1851; Mary b 1-2-1796 Parramatta d 6-8-1825 Sydney m 25-9-1815 John Pearson; John b 15-5-1798 Mulgrave Pl m 8-10-1821 Elizabeth Cooper; Sarah b 1-11-1800 Mulgrave d 3-6-1854 Bendigo m 20-4-1818 VDL, William Stanley d 19-7-1885 Bendigo. (282, 274, 379) RYAN, ROGER b ca.1822(24) Clonouthy TIP IRL (s of Catherine O'Neil) d 23-6-1911 Pitt Town bur Windsor R/C cem. Arr 11-3-1841 "Glenswilly" free m ca.1848? Wilberforce to MARY ANN GEEHAN b 1832 Freemans Reach/Sydney (d of Hugh Geehan/Gahan & Alice/Ellen Kinealy/Kinnala who m 17-5-1830 St. Mary's R/C Sydney) d 4-2-1903(4) Pitt Town bur Windsor R/C cem. Issue: Mary Ann b 3-7-1849 Wilberforce m T B Roberts/P Le Cussen; Thomas John b 26-3-1852 Wilberforce d 19-5-1945 Pitt Town m 20-2-1879 Honora Slattery; Hubert/Hugh b 6-12-1854 Kurrajong m 1-10-1879 Ellen Nowland; John b ca.1856 Kurrajong d 1898; Edward b 23-1-1860 North Richmond m 4-7-1883 Agnes Byrne; William James b 10-9-1862 North Richmond d 10-7-1869; Catherine Therasa b 19-2-1865 North Richmond; Albert Francis b 29-3-1867 Pitt Town; James Vincent b 20-6-1869 Pitt Town m Mary Ann Gough; Emily b 1872 Pitt Town m H Elphinston. (15, 105) RYAN, THOMAS JOHN b 26-3-1852 Pitt Town (s of Roger Ryan & Mary Ann Geehan) d 19-5-1945 Pitt Town m 2-2-1879 Windsor to HONORAH SLATTERY b 16-7-1857 Campbelltown (d of Austin Slattery & Eliza O'Keefe) d 1-9-1940. Issue: All issue born Pitt Town. Mary; Brian; Agnes: Eliza; Roger b 18-11-1882 m 12-5-1915 Frances Parnell; Thomas b 29-4-1881; Theresa d 1-9-1940 m Patrick Sullivan; Margaret; Austin b 27-3-1884. (105) Hawkesbury Pioneer Register Vol. 2 (2001) RYAN, BARNABAS/BERNARD b 1804 TIP IRL (s of William Ryan) d 1863 Ashfield bur R/C cem Sydney. Arr -9-1836 "Waterloo" convict m 1828 TIP IRL to ELIZABETH NEWMAN b TIP IRL (d of Edmund Newman & Mary Ryan). Issue: 1. Mary Anne b 16-4-1842 Kurrajong; 2. Judith/Johanna b 1845 Kurrajong; 3. James b 1847 Kurrajong. Notes: Barney and his father William were two of a group of convicts convicted of manslaughter on 17-3-1836 at Tipperary Assizes and sentenced to life. After assignment to Major Macarthur at Camden, Barney came to the Windsor district and was allowed to remain by the Parramatta Bench per ticket of leave. His wife's relatives began arriving in the Windsor district in 1840 including Bridget Hennessy nee Newman. (616)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Douch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 5:09 PM Subject: [HHHV] Pioneer register Book > Do any one know if there is a Pioneer Book for the > area,and that also covers Kurrajong, Im looking for > information on William Ryan who was there in 1850's Hi Carole There have been 2 Hawkesbury Pioneers publications done . One about 10 - 12 years ago and the other a couple of years ago We have both lots of publications at the Central Coast FHS library but I wont be going there for close to a week. Would be in other libraries Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW

Hi Carole Have a look in the Pioneer Register for the Hawkesbury area. If there are any copies left, you will be able to buy one from Hawkesbury library. Most libraries should have a copy Cheers Heather >From: "Carole Douch" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [HHHV] Pioneer register Book >Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:09:25 +1000 > >Do any one know if there is a Pioneer Book for the area,and that also >covers Kurrajong, Im looking for information on William Ryan who was there >in 1850's,thanks carole > > > >==== AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== >List archives can be found at >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY/ > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Do any one know if there is a Pioneer Book for the area,and that also covers Kurrajong, Im looking for information on William Ryan who was there in 1850's,thanks carole

Windsor & Richmond Gazette, Saturday, March 10, 1900 - page 4 Richmond Mr. J. McNeely and family contemplate going for a few weeks' holiday to Manly. Mr. Isaac Shields, a resident of Agnes Banks for many years, died on Saturday last. A sad accident occurred at Dubbo on December 11th , when Angus Samuels, and old student of the H. A. College, met with an injury resulting in his death. On December 14th he fell off a load of hay on to a pitchfork, one of the prongs penetrated under his chin, and passing up through the brain. His brother, A. R. Samuels, was working with him at the time, and everything was done that was possible, but with no avail. The paddock at the rear of Mr. J. R. Mitchell's residence by some means took fire on Saturday morning, and a serious conflagration was averted by the promptitude of Mr. J. McNeely in suppressing the flames before any serious damage was done. Mr. H. Whitwell has completed his contract at Long Bay, where he has been for the last month or so erecting a large shed. Mr. J. Shine, J.P., who has been residing at "Toxana" during the past year, left on Saturday to take up his residence in the metropolis. Mr. Dart is to officiate in the local Wesleyan Church next Sunday. His discourse will be on the Boer war. It is scarcely to be wondered at that there is a musical prodigy in the Eather family, of Francis-street, for all Mr. and Mrs. Eather's boys are musical. At present she has two little grandsons staying with her. Wentworth and Bertie Murphy. The elder, Wentworth, is a wonder for his age. Scarcely five years old, he can sing "Soldiers of the Queen" "Sons of the Sea" and other popular songs with much more correctness than many adult professed vocalists. The little fellow sings sweetly, and his voice is strong and full for one of such tender years. The residents of East Richmond are subjected to great annoyance by the carelessness of carters in dumping their rubbish on the police reserve directly opposite their residences, thereby causing a plentiful supply of waster paper, old rags, &c., to be blown in their gateways, especially on a windy day. It is to be hoped the authorities will cause the offenders to keep to the allotted place for rubbish. Mr. Tim Reay underwent a painful operation on Monday last, to have a growth removed from his lip. Dr. Helsham performed the operation successfully, and the sufferer is doing well. The Rev. J. J. F. L. Fergusson, M.A., has returned to town after spending an enjoyable month, with his family, on the beautiful Kurrajong. The Boys' Brigade fife and drum band is practicing assiduously and are getting on wonderfully well in their playing. Before long we hope to have the privilege of much enjoyable entertainment from them. A few serenades o'moonlight nights in the park would be appreciated. The streets have been very dusty, though the showers this week have improved matters. Francis-street was coated with six inches of dust, and when heavy rain comes there will be a fine long bog. It is more than probable that Mr. Grieves, the popular piano tuner, will permanently settle down in Richmond.