> > Subject: > Looking for any GENGE > From: > "Louise" <[email protected]> > Date: > Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:02:21 +1000 > To: > [email protected] > > To: > [email protected] > > > Louise I have a connection with GENGE in my Sherrings from Somerset. I have William SHERRING marrying Ruth GENGE (1882-1863) in 1804 and another member of the same family John SHERRING marrying Jane GENGE (1786- ) in 1808. At this stage I have no further deatails; however as all my other Sherrings have so far been located in Somerset, I think it is reasonable to assume the above people were also in Somerset. Warwick Sherring Lismore NSW

As part of National Family History Week (30 July to 6 August) Hawkesbury Library is running the following free session. There may be interested persons on the list? Researching family history Check out what types of material are available to use in the Local Studies Collection at Hawkesbury Library. This session will deal with births, deaths & marriage records, church & cemetery records, newspapers & much more. Great for beginners, interested in starting to research their family history. Details : Wednesday 2nd August 2006 10am-11.30am Tebbutt Room at Hawkesbury Central Library, 300 George Street, Windsor Sessions are FREE - just come along. Bookings not essential - enquiries phone (02) 4560-4466 or email [email protected] There is loads of other things happening in an area near you, check out the website www.familyhistoryweek.org.au for more details.

Hi List Can I add that not only should we all tick the box Re: Retention of Census. But actually take our individual census and make a photocopy of it and put it away for future reference. I have previously copied my 1986, 1991, 1996 and 2001 census. Which my two teenage boys find interesting reading just recently. I just store them with all my other family history information, and treat it as another primary source of information. Just remember how precious to us the 1828 census is. Treat the 2006 Census exactly the same. Regards Garry Sanders Kariong, NSW

Hi John, I checked my Bounty immigrants CD for. arrivals 1828 to 1842 and there are no Froudes or Frouds or Frudes. Marie -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 21/07/2006

Hi John Try http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/staterecords/a-z_index_4705.asp#S or http://www.genseek.net/pass1.htm#Index. or http://www.acay.com.au/~gsm/ships.html#bounty. The State Records of NSW under "Shipping and Immigration" have indices to assisted shipping and immigration and unassisted shipping for 1842. Regards Jan Koperberg Blue Mountains ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W Head" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: [HHHV] Immigration Registers >I would appreciate advice as to whether the Immigration records or indices >to Bounty Immigrant Arrivals to NSW in the 1840's are available for >searching over the internet. > > I am interested in finding out details of the FROUDE family who would have > arrived in 1842. I expect that they settled in the Maitland district. > > Thanks, > > John Head > > > ==== AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > List archives can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 21/07/2006 >

I would appreciate advice as to whether the Immigration records or indices to Bounty Immigrant Arrivals to NSW in the 1840's are available for searching over the internet. I am interested in finding out details of the FROUDE family who would have arrived in 1842. I expect that they settled in the Maitland district. Thanks, John Head

Michelle and list I have seen a few reminders in newsletters and emails about saying "YES" to the census question concerning the retention of the record. It is good to note that not all the reminders have come from Family History Researchers. P.S. I did mean 'quiet' not 'quite'. It was a slip. I realised as soon as the default email came through. Cheers, Jan Koperberg Blue Mountains ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Nichols" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:55 PM Subject: [HHHV] Census 2006 & National Family History Week > While it is a bit quiet on the list I thought I might remind everyone > about the Census. A census will take place on the night of 8 August 2006. > Answering questions in the census is compulsory except for 2 questions. > One on religion the other is on retention. Everyone who has an interest in > family history research should start to encourage as many people as > possible to answer YES to retaining their census form. The census is the > only public record that comes close to recording the name, address and > occupation of every Australian. No other sources, such as electoral rolls > and birth certificates achieve this. As family historians we are very > aware of the value of census records. > > The retention question (Q60) reads: "Does each person in this household > agree to his/her name and address and other information on this form being > kept by the National Archives of Australia and then made publicly > available after 99 years?" This question MUST BE answered with a YES for > the information to be kept by the National Archives of Australia on > microfilm and the content not made available until the year 2105. If this > question is ignored, it will be treated as a NO. In the 2001 census about > 52% of participants answered YES and it would be great if this number can > be increased. > > Please encourage as many friends, family, workmates & associates as > possible, to answer YES in the census question concerning the retention of > this vital record of the Australian culture. Unless you answer YES your > census form will not be retained in the archives. These will become an > invaluable record of Australian family history. > > Please feel free to pass this email around to your contacts and encourage > others to pass it around. Compose letters to editors of local newspapers, > write articles for newsletters, mention it at group gatherings such as > school, church, meetings etc.....and raise the awareness. > Check out the websites at www.abs.gov.au/census (under Time > capsule)www.affho.org/projects/census.php and for more information. > > To raise awareness of the census, AFFHO (Australian Federation of Family > History Organisations) as organised National Family History Week from 30 > July to 6 August 2006. There will be lots of activities taking place. See > the website www.familyhistoryweek.org.au/ for more info. > Cheers > Michelle Nichols > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the List Mode send an email with the word ubsubscribe > in the subject heading to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 21/07/2006 >

While it is a bit quiet on the list I thought I might remind everyone about the Census. A census will take place on the night of 8 August 2006. Answering questions in the census is compulsory except for 2 questions. One on religion the other is on retention. Everyone who has an interest in family history research should start to encourage as many people as possible to answer YES to retaining their census form. The census is the only public record that comes close to recording the name, address and occupation of every Australian. No other sources, such as electoral rolls and birth certificates achieve this. As family historians we are very aware of the value of census records. The retention question (Q60) reads: "Does each person in this household agree to his/her name and address and other information on this form being kept by the National Archives of Australia and then made publicly available after 99 years?" This question MUST BE answered with a YES for the information to be kept by the National Archives of Australia on microfilm and the content not made available until the year 2105. If this question is ignored, it will be treated as a NO. In the 2001 census about 52% of participants answered YES and it would be great if this number can be increased. Please encourage as many friends, family, workmates & associates as possible, to answer YES in the census question concerning the retention of this vital record of the Australian culture. Unless you answer YES your census form will not be retained in the archives. These will become an invaluable record of Australian family history. Please feel free to pass this email around to your contacts and encourage others to pass it around. Compose letters to editors of local newspapers, write articles for newsletters, mention it at group gatherings such as school, church, meetings etc.....and raise the awareness. Check out the websites at www.abs.gov.au/census (under Time capsule)www.affho.org/projects/census.php and for more information. To raise awareness of the census, AFFHO (Australian Federation of Family History Organisations) as organised National Family History Week from 30 July to 6 August 2006. There will be lots of activities taking place. See the website www.familyhistoryweek.org.au/ for more info. Cheers Michelle Nichols

Hello All, Thought I'd just post to see if there are any GENGE connections on line. The main line I research are descended from Samuel GENGE and Mary TAYLOR who came out to Newcastle from Chiselborough,Somerset Saying that I am happy with contact from any GENGE line as I am trying to connect families Have a great day Louise -Stockton where so far it's sunny!

I think it is just quite John. Nothing wrong with your mail retrieval. Jan Blue Mountains ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Armstrong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:25 PM Subject: [HHHV] No mail > Is it quiet on the list? > > No messages have been received since 13th July - 9 days ago. > > Just wondering !1 > > John Armstrong > Pendle Hill > > > ==== AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > List archives can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 21/07/2006 >

Is it quiet on the list? No messages have been received since 13th July - 9 days ago. Just wondering !1 John Armstrong Pendle Hill

What a wonderful daytime outing. I will show this email to Springwood Family History Society, as a suggested day trip. Thank you. Jan Koperberg Blue Mountains ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Nichols" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:35 AM Subject: [HHHV] Rose Cottage Wilberforce >I have been advised that "Rose Cottage" the historical home of the Rose >family is now opened to the public every Sunday from 10am to 3pm. Entrance >is off Rose Street at Wilberforce, beside the hotel. There is a small >entrance fee. Rose Cottage is one of the oldest timber dwellings in >Australia and an excellent example of early 19th century constructed timber >slab building. Built by the Rose family, early free settlers in the early >1800s it gives an insight into how an early farming family would have lived >along the Hawkesbury River. > > Interested persons could combine this trip with a tour to Wilberforce > (Cemetery, St. John's Anglican Church & School house) and Ebenezer > (Church & cemetery & Tizzana Winery) > Michelle Nichols > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget that a busy and informative list is a good one - so don't > become a "Fence Sitter". Speak up ! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/387 - Release Date: 12/07/2006 >

I have been advised that "Rose Cottage" the historical home of the Rose family is now opened to the public every Sunday from 10am to 3pm. Entrance is off Rose Street at Wilberforce, beside the hotel. There is a small entrance fee. Rose Cottage is one of the oldest timber dwellings in Australia and an excellent example of early 19th century constructed timber slab building. Built by the Rose family, early free settlers in the early 1800s it gives an insight into how an early farming family would have lived along the Hawkesbury River. Interested persons could combine this trip with a tour to Wilberforce (Cemetery, St. John's Anglican Church & School house) and Ebenezer (Church & cemetery & Tizzana Winery) Michelle Nichols

Hello Sharon How great this news is. Thank you. My family said that my Grt Grandfather had "jumped ship". Maybe that was true and he was a mariner. He arrived in Brisbane aboard "St James" in 1876. I do not know how he travelled to Sydney nor his occupation until he married Rosanna at Bethel House in 1881. But the jig saw is gradually coming together, thanks to generous people like you. Best wishes Marilyn Mercer. Windsor.

Hi Marilyn, Sydney Bethel Union Chapel was located at 100 George Street ,The Rocks. Designed and completed in 1859 . The mariners church was a chapel with leisure facilities for sailors visiting Sydney. A few chaplains over the years but Thomas Gainford, a congregational minister was the chaplain between 1871-1884. The church has undergone many extensions over the years being used as a film cinema, craft centre . "Old Sydney Buildings" A Social History by Margaret Simpson. Hope that helps, Regards, Sharon Hoyer > The place of marriage was Bethel House, George St (Nth), Sydney14 July > 1881 > 'according to the rites of the Congregational Church'. > Could anyone tell me about this place (Bethel House) and if it still > exists > please? > Marilyn Mercer > Windsor NSW > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Digest mode send an email with the word > unsubscribe in the subject heading to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Thank you Michelle. I will check these references. When I find more I will share it with the list. Warmest wishes, Marilyn Mercer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Nichols" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:19 PM Subject: [HHHV] Bethel House > Hi Marilyn, > I know of Bethel House as Dr Thomas Fiaschi married there in 1876. I have > seen it mentioned quite a few times in regards to marriages during the > 1880s. You could probably locate some more information in a history of the > Congregational Church or the Presbyterian Church. There is a book in the > Local Studies Collection at Hawkesbury Library called "Congregationalism in > Australia" by G. Lindsay Lockley shelved at RL285.8 CON. The Sands Directory > might also identify a street number. (I would check it for you but I am not > at work today) > > Cheers > Michelle Nichols > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the Digest mode send an email with the word unsubscribe in the subject heading to: > [email protected] > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Marilyn, I know of Bethel House as Dr Thomas Fiaschi married there in 1876. I have seen it mentioned quite a few times in regards to marriages during the 1880s. You could probably locate some more information in a history of the Congregational Church or the Presbyterian Church. There is a book in the Local Studies Collection at Hawkesbury Library called "Congregationalism in Australia" by G. Lindsay Lockley shelved at RL285.8 CON. The Sands Directory might also identify a street number. (I would check it for you but I am not at work today) Cheers Michelle Nichols

Hi Carole, The only link I know is this one for theParramatta Library. Cheers, Mike Bailey http://www.parracity.nsw.gov.au/faq/newspapers.html

Is there a newspaper online for Parramatta, Im looking for an accident in 1906,it was Bertha Ryan had a buggy accident , and became crippled after the accident, thanks carole

Windsor & Richmond Gazette, Saturday, March 10, 1900 - page 1 THE "GREEN HILLS." The Bridge One morning I stood upon the bridge - Windsor Bridge - and I became lost in thought. "I stood in Venice, of the Bridge of Sighs ; A palace and a prison on each hand ; I saw from the wave her structure rise As from a stroke of the enchanter's wand." So sang Byron of Venice ; so thought I of Windsor - for assuredly the structures which will some day adorn Windsor-town must come from or through (along), the river. I do so now in spite of sand-banks insidiously creeping towards the opposite shore ! In spite of the dismal croaking of people who never can see anything but the shady side of a question ; in spite of Ministerial apathy and Departmental doddering. In spite of the manifold obstructions placed in the way. I can see a deepened river, its tide bringing passengers and cargoes to the town - the town itself is a fair city of comfortable mansions and villas - of opulent men, of fair women, I could quote whole quotes from Byron's beautiful poem to illustrate my feelings on this much vexed question. But the Bridge - what of it ? My idea of a bridge over the Hawkesbury at Windsor is an iron bridge of one span from shore to shore at high water, springing on the Windsor side from about the hand-rail in Thompson's! Square overlooking the river. Some day a Ministry will give us such a bridge - also a navigable river ; and only for the madness of Windsor electors in electing a man to represent them who had actually opposed a high-level bridge, when proposed by another man, it would be there now. The objector was Richard Driver, then member for West Macquarie ; the proposer was the Hon. W. Walker (then Mr. Walker, Member for Windsor). The Government then proposed to borrow £20,000 for a high level bridge. Mr. Driver said "He did not know by what hocuspocus influence the item for a bridge over the Hawkesbury, at Windsor, was placed on the Estimates, but he would move as an amendment the omission of that item." That was on the 22nd March, 1866. The House divided, and the item was lost by 22 to 12. On June 12, 1871, Mr. Byrnes moved the item £7000 for a low-level bridge over the Hawkesbury at Windsor. Mr. Driver again opposed "The people of the Hawkesbury," he said ; "were already ! well off and had no reason to complain." The item was carried by 25 t o 4 (Messrs. Driver, Brown, Samuel and Stewart) against. And yet Mr. Driver was elected a year or two later to represent the electors of Windsor. No one has ever suggested a monument to "Our Dick" - though the wonder is that his friends did not. At any rate, to have done so would not have been more barefaced than electing him after his twice opposing the bridge. I do not play chaneys in the same political yard as Mr. Walker, but I do say that for his attempt (at bridge building)alone, he should have been held dear in the memories of Windsor men and women. Mr. Driver was a "Sport" and as such had many friends. Thus, in politics principle and well meaning effort avail nothing against the hippogriffs. However, there is the bridge, in all its ugliness, and the same wasteful expenditure year after year of redecking and renewing is entailed. May I ask why, if it is necessary to metal with tarred stone Fitzroy Bridge (which is iron), it is not also necessary to similarly me! tal Windsor Bridge (which is wood) ? Surely coating the wooden floor a fair depth with tarred metal or asphaltum would protect the timber, both from weather and wear. Bridge builders may not know best, though I confess I am obstinate enough to doubt it. Auld Acquaintance Ten years make men - and women too - look older, and I find many white heads in Windsor that were not white in 1890. White is a good standing colour, anyhow - not likely to change again, and a "snowy pow" is, or should be, both respectable and honourable. I found them quite young - physically, anyhow - in ideas some of them have always been old. True, I met many wrecks - social wrecks are everywhere - and only on close inspection did I recognise them. Among the white-headed ones are the livest men in Windsor, my old friends William Moses and F. J. Mortley, to wit. Messrs. William Walker, D. Holland, W. F. Linsley and R. Huggins are not yet white, though grizzled. The senior alderman - the Patriarch of the Council, and Newtown's chosen one - is, however, both white and bent, and by far the oldest looking of the men I knew years ago ; while ex-Lancer Berckelman and Mr. Peter Carroll are getting on, if they have not passed man's allotted time on earth. Many I met, ! both of the town and outlying parts, who did not seem a day older ; they were brown, strong and hearty, thus showing that the sun, plenty of ozones, pumpkins and peaches, and long beers in moderation have enormous invigorating powers. In fact, the district is famous for its old men and women, many of whom approach the age of the Italian, Connaro, yet who never heard of him, or his dietary scale to secure long life.