According to the 1901 Census (see http://www.hawkesbury.net.au/lists/1901Census_Me.html) Nathan Mitchell (2 males & 1 female) is recorded at Lower Portland, Sackville township. Cheers Jonathan Auld -----Original Message----- From: cd [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 7:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HHHV] Nathan Mitchell & Hawkesbury Methodist Church 1909 I purchased a tea service (not for sale) and I would be very interested to learn who Nathan Mitchell was and what his involvement with the Hawkesbury Methodist Church was. The tea pot is engraved with the following inscription: Presented to Mr and Mrs Nathan Mitchell from the Hawkesbury Methodist Church 1909. The NSW BDM has two birth entries for this name, both at Windsor. Eusebeia Sutherland Newport Victoria ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Replies to either are acceptable Rhonda, I usually use reply when responding to an enquiry to show the List someone has replied or found the information required, after that if further research is indicated I use Reply All to put the person in my address book then send messages privately. Patricia, Australia Dear Patricia Thank you for responding to my email. I'm very interested in the death record you have indicated for Michael Moran 1853. I will follow this up as I am very interested in discovering who Patrick Moran's parents were, as I cannot find a plausible death certificate for him and I am hoping that finding out who he was and where he came from may help me. I do have a Michael Moran from the 1841 census at Pitt Town who I have suspected may be Patrick's father but have not been able to prove it. Can you tell me Patricia as I am new to the list whether it is protocol to reply directly to you or to the list? Thank you again Rhonda Flowers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Hayward" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [HHHV] Patrick Moran and Rose Hagan > Hi Rhonda, > Births > 1851 - Michael Moran, Father Patrick, Mother Rose, Index Year 1851, > Denomination Roman Catholic, Parish Windsor, St Matthew's, Volume > Reference V1851 896 68, Registration Year 1851, Registration Number 0 > 1853 - Christopher Moran, Index Year 1853, Denomination Roman Catholic, > Parish Windsor, St Matthew's, Volume Reference V1853 588 71, Registration > Year 1853, Registration Number 0 > Deaths > 1853 - Maybe father of Patrick. > 1853 - Michael Moran, Index Year 1853, Age 62, Denomination Roman > Catholic, Parish Windsor, St Matthew's, Volume Reference V1853 938 119, > Registration Year 1853, Registration Number 0 > St. Matthew's Church of England was built in 1819 by Francis Greenaway, > there is a story that the Catholics were told they could worship anywhere > they liked provided it was at St. Matthew's, when the Catholic Church was > built in the 1850's it was named St. Matthews because no-one was sure > whether the restriction still applied. Whether this is true or not I do > not know but it is a good story. > Before the Catholic Church was built St. Matthew's means the Church of > England Church, however, with baptisms and burials a note is usually added > if Catholic. > Hope this helps. > Patricia, Australia > > > > This is my first time posting to the list. I am looking for any > information > at all regarding Rose Hagan and Patrick Moran who were married 1st May > 1850 > at St. Matthews,Windsor. > > Thanks > Rhonda Flowers > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Dear Patricia Thank you for responding to my email. I'm very interested in the death record you have indicated for Michael Moran 1853. I will follow this up as I am very interested in discovering who Patrick Moran's parents were, as I cannot find a plausible death certificate for him and I am hoping that finding out who he was and where he came from may help me. I do have a Michael Moran from the 1841 census at Pitt Town who I have suspected may be Patrick's father but have not been able to prove it. Can you tell me Patricia as I am new to the list whether it is protocol to reply directly to you or to the list? Thank you again Rhonda Flowers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Hayward" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [HHHV] Patrick Moran and Rose Hagan > Hi Rhonda, > Births > 1851 - Michael Moran, Father Patrick, Mother Rose, Index Year 1851, > Denomination Roman Catholic, Parish Windsor, St Matthew's, Volume > Reference V1851 896 68, Registration Year 1851, Registration Number 0 > 1853 - Christopher Moran, Index Year 1853, Denomination Roman Catholic, > Parish Windsor, St Matthew's, Volume Reference V1853 588 71, Registration > Year 1853, Registration Number 0 > Deaths > 1853 - Maybe father of Patrick. > 1853 - Michael Moran, Index Year 1853, Age 62, Denomination Roman > Catholic, Parish Windsor, St Matthew's, Volume Reference V1853 938 119, > Registration Year 1853, Registration Number 0 > St. Matthew's Church of England was built in 1819 by Francis Greenaway, > there is a story that the Catholics were told they could worship anywhere > they liked provided it was at St. Matthew's, when the Catholic Church was > built in the 1850's it was named St. Matthews because no-one was sure > whether the restriction still applied. Whether this is true or not I do > not know but it is a good story. > Before the Catholic Church was built St. Matthew's means the Church of > England Church, however, with baptisms and burials a note is usually added > if Catholic. > Hope this helps. > Patricia, Australia > > > > This is my first time posting to the list. I am looking for any > information > at all regarding Rose Hagan and Patrick Moran who were married 1st May > 1850 > at St. Matthews,Windsor. > > Thanks > Rhonda Flowers > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Hi Rhonda, Births 1851 - Michael Moran, Father Patrick, Mother Rose, Index Year 1851, Denomination Roman Catholic, Parish Windsor, St Matthew's, Volume Reference V1851 896 68, Registration Year 1851, Registration Number 0 1853 - Christopher Moran, Index Year 1853, Denomination Roman Catholic, Parish Windsor, St Matthew's, Volume Reference V1853 588 71, Registration Year 1853, Registration Number 0 Deaths 1853 - Maybe father of Patrick. 1853 - Michael Moran, Index Year 1853, Age 62, Denomination Roman Catholic, Parish Windsor, St Matthew's, Volume Reference V1853 938 119, Registration Year 1853, Registration Number 0 St. Matthew's Church of England was built in 1819 by Francis Greenaway, there is a story that the Catholics were told they could worship anywhere they liked provided it was at St. Matthew's, when the Catholic Church was built in the 1850's it was named St. Matthews because no-one was sure whether the restriction still applied. Whether this is true or not I do not know but it is a good story. Before the Catholic Church was built St. Matthew's means the Church of England Church, however, with baptisms and burials a note is usually added if Catholic. Hope this helps. Patricia, Australia This is my first time posting to the list. I am looking for any information at all regarding Rose Hagan and Patrick Moran who were married 1st May 1850 at St. Matthews,Windsor. Thanks Rhonda Flowers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Rhonda, Just recently a book of transcriptions was issued by Lake Macquarie Family History Group of transcriptions of the St Matthews CE Church Register. This is their third book and now up to 1950. In the first book there is only one MORAN, a John who was a witness at a marriage. No HAGAN entries. Unfortunately also the Catholic Church is St Matthews so you will need to clarify which church they married in. Sincerely,Bill > This is my first time posting to the list. I am looking for any > information > at all regarding Rose Hagan and Patrick Moran who were married 1st May > 1850 > at St. Matthews,Windsor.

This is my first time posting to the list. I am looking for any information at all regarding Rose Hagan and Patrick Moran who were married 1st May 1850 at St. Matthews,Windsor. Thanks Rhonda Flowers

Eusebeia wrote :- Subject: Re: [HHHV] Nathan Mitchell & Hawkesbury Methodist Church 1909 I purchased a tea service (not for sale) and I would be very interested to learn who Nathan Mitchell was and what his involvement with the Hawkesbury Methodist Church was. The tea pot is engraved with the following inscription: Presented to Mr and Mrs Nathan Mitchell from the Hawkesbury Methodist Church 1909. Hi Eusebeia, The Windsor Library has a collection of Family Research Folders that have been donated by people who are willing to share their research. These folders are not for loan and can only be accessed at the library. Some hold only a little and some can be a wealth of information (I recently got a huge amount of newspaper clippings etc. on one of my rellies). There are a few there concerning the Mitchells of the Hawkesbury area - TITLE : Ben Mitchell (1886-1985) [Library ref. #RLP MIT] TITLE : John and Jane Mitchell [Library ref. #RLP MIT] TITLE : Mitchell and Horton Family Research [Library ref. #RLP MIT] TITLE : Mitchell Family Research [Library ref. #RLP MIT TITLE : Mitchell Park [Library ref. #RLP MIT] TITLE : Mitchell [Library ref. #RLP MIT] The library can be found on http://www.hawkesbury.nsw.gov.au/library.html and you could click onto "Ask a Librarian" (left hand menu) and fill out the appropriate form, or perhaps someone may be kind enough to have a look for you if they are going into the library. Hope this helps. Cheers, Maureen (Melbourne)

----- Original Message ----- From: "cd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [HHHV] Nathan Mitchell & Hawkesbury Methodist Church 1909 >I purchased a tea service (not for sale) and I would be >very > interested to learn who Nathan Mitchell was and what his > involvement > with the Hawkesbury Methodist Church was. > > The tea pot is engraved with the following inscription: > > Presented to Mr and Mrs Nathan Mitchell > > from the Hawkesbury Methodist Church 1909. > > Hi Eusebeia Where quite a few MITCHELLs living and farming at Portland Head ( nr Windsor on the Hawkesbury) in the NSW 1903 Electoral roll . Could only find birth records of one Nathan MITCHELL b 1862 to Thomas & Ursula , who married at the Wesleyan MethodistChurch Windsor . A Nathan MITCHELL married in 1910 , Windsor to Sarah J EDWARDS ......... That would make him about 48 yo .. Abit old to be getting married, if for the first time ? Maybe this tea service was a wedding present ? Perhaps Windsor Library has info on this MITCHELL family ?. Bye MargM Member of Central Coast Family History Society Gosford NSW

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Simpson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: [HHHV] Looking for information on Wooderson and Cavander Families > Hi List, > I am searching for information on James Robert Wooderson > who came to > Australia after 1861 (found marriage details in England > Dec 1861 to person > unknown) and he then married Margaret Emma Cavander in > January,1868 in > Newcastle. According to 1861 Census he was in the Royal > Navy in Britain. I > have not been able to locate details of him arriving in > Australia but have > found the above marriage and also found details of the > birth of their > children. The Wooderson family appears to have lived > around the Newcastle, > Wallsend, Hi again Marie Quite alot about on these WOODERSONs... http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/indexes_online_3357.asp State Records have 3 divorces and 2 insolvencies including one for James Robert National archives have 33 misc refs And are some 17 refs in the Ryerson newspaper deaths Bye MargM Member of Central Coast Family History Society Gosford NSW

Ian, Thank you for that information. Will see where it leads me. This family has been a bit of a mystery for me. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Symonds" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [HHHV] Looking for information on Wooderson and CavanderFamilies > Marie, From my "Biographical Register of Port Macquarie":- > WOODERSON, Cath. 1891 census- off Horton St. 1 female. > > WOODERSON, C. Taken from "An Old Log Book"- Dismissed from the Pilot boat > crew 14 Nov 1855. > > WOODERSON, Charles Snr. Bricklayer , Hay St Pt M -1872 directory > > WOODERSON, Charles Jnr. Carrier Hay St- 1872 directory > > WOODERSON, Charles. B 1818 Surrey, was a bricklayer in Pt M- M Margaret > Hayward, of Dublin. Occupied a house in Pt M in 1869-70 roll, signed the > 1867 petition for Municipality. 1878 Sands Diry- Bricklayer, Hay St. > > WOODERSON, C.Timber licence, Gv Gaz 1881. > > > > WOODERSON, Frederick. Butcher , Hay St Pt M 1872 directory > > WOODERSON, Frederick "Kempsey, insolvent." 26 Aug 1893 > > > > WOODERSON, F. Timber licence Pt M 1881. > > > > WOODERSON, John Selwyn. D 10 Apr 1880 @ 64. Sacred to the memeory of > J.S.W, > who died 10 Apr 1888 @ 6 years. "verily I say to you, whosoever shall not > receive the kingdomn=m of God as a little child, he shall not enter > therein-Mark 10,15 > > > > WOODERSON, Leonard Harvey-natural son of Eliz Wooderson. > > > > WOODERSON, Martin- (Wooders?) died 14 may 1860 @ ?? > > > > WOODERSON, Tom- "Long Tom was one of the old teamsters on the Forbes > river-(others at the time were old Man Hollis, Dennis Kilmurray, Moreton > Bay > Jack, Old Joh Kenna, Jim henry, Tom Watkins,Bill Hymes and old Tom Mills. > The of course, only bullock drays were used and on the drays they used a > drag and lock chain down the pinches.what pinches they were!! The trip > from > Pt M toWalcha would take a fortnight if the weather fwas fine. > > WOODERSON, Thomas. M Sarah Hanson. > > Ian > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Hi, I have not checked anything - but perhaps he was grandson to the Methodist minister John Mitchell Regards Lesley Uebel mailto:[email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of H Dickinson Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HHHV] Nathan Mitchell & Hawkesbury Methodist Church 1909 I purchased a tea service (not for sale) and I would be very interested to learn who Nathan Mitchell was and what his involvement with the Hawkesbury Methodist Church was. The tea pot is engraved with the following inscription: > > Presented to Mr and Mrs Nathan Mitchell > > from the Hawkesbury Methodist Church 1909. > The NSW BDM has two birth entries for this name, both at Windsor. > Eusebeia Sutherland > Newport Victoria

Hi Eusebeia, There are at least 5 different MITCHELLs on my new Hawkesbury Landholders Vol 2a CD. Maybe one of these will be his parents or grandparents. You CD will be in the mail on Monday. Kind regards Helen On 01/12/06, cd <[email protected]> wrote: > > I purchased a tea service (not for sale) and I would be very > interested to learn who Nathan Mitchell was and what his involvement > with the Hawkesbury Methodist Church was. > > The tea pot is engraved with the following inscription: > > Presented to Mr and Mrs Nathan Mitchell > > from the Hawkesbury Methodist Church 1909. > > The NSW BDM has two birth entries for this name, both at Windsor. > > > > Eusebeia Sutherland > Newport Victoria > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I purchased a tea service (not for sale) and I would be very interested to learn who Nathan Mitchell was and what his involvement with the Hawkesbury Methodist Church was. The tea pot is engraved with the following inscription: Presented to Mr and Mrs Nathan Mitchell from the Hawkesbury Methodist Church 1909. The NSW BDM has two birth entries for this name, both at Windsor. Eusebeia Sutherland Newport Victoria

Marie, From my "Biographical Register of Port Macquarie":- WOODERSON, Cath. 1891 census- off Horton St. 1 female. WOODERSON, C. Taken from "An Old Log Book"- Dismissed from the Pilot boat crew 14 Nov 1855. WOODERSON, Charles Snr. Bricklayer , Hay St Pt M -1872 directory WOODERSON, Charles Jnr. Carrier Hay St- 1872 directory WOODERSON, Charles. B 1818 Surrey, was a bricklayer in Pt M- M Margaret Hayward, of Dublin. Occupied a house in Pt M in 1869-70 roll, signed the 1867 petition for Municipality. 1878 Sands Diry- Bricklayer, Hay St. WOODERSON, C.Timber licence, Gv Gaz 1881. WOODERSON, Frederick. Butcher , Hay St Pt M 1872 directory WOODERSON, Frederick "Kempsey, insolvent." 26 Aug 1893 WOODERSON, F. Timber licence Pt M 1881. WOODERSON, John Selwyn. D 10 Apr 1880 @ 64. Sacred to the memeory of J.S.W, who died 10 Apr 1888 @ 6 years. "verily I say to you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdomn=m of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein-Mark 10,15 WOODERSON, Leonard Harvey-natural son of Eliz Wooderson. WOODERSON, Martin- (Wooders?) died 14 may 1860 @ ?? WOODERSON, Tom- "Long Tom was one of the old teamsters on the Forbes river-(others at the time were old Man Hollis, Dennis Kilmurray, Moreton Bay Jack, Old Joh Kenna, Jim henry, Tom Watkins,Bill Hymes and old Tom Mills. The of course, only bullock drays were used and on the drays they used a drag and lock chain down the pinches.what pinches they were!! The trip from Pt M toWalcha would take a fortnight if the weather fwas fine. WOODERSON, Thomas. M Sarah Hanson. Ian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Simpson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: [HHHV] Looking for information on Wooderson and Cavander Families > Hi List, > I am searching for information on James Robert Wooderson > who came to > Australia after 1861 (found marriage details in England > Dec 1861 to person > unknown) and he then married Margaret Emma Cavander in > January,1868 in > Newcastle. According to 1861 Census he was in the Royal > Navy in Britain. I > have not been able to locate details of him arriving in > Australia but have > found the above marriage and also found details of the > birth of their > children. The Wooderson family appears to have lived > around the Newcastle, > Wallsend, Scone area. It looks like James's father > Henry along with Jame's > siblings came to Australia sometime in the 1860's. Hi Marie This is the WOODERSON info from the NSW 1903 E roll Sex,Surname,FirstNames,State,Address,Town,RollNum,Division,SubDivision,Occupation F Wooderson Caroline NSW Betts Street East Kempsey 1229 Cowper Kempsey Domestic Duties M Wooderson Charles William NSW Glenrock Plain 1230 Cowper Kempsey Horse Trainer F Wooderson Elizabeth NSW North Araluen 583 Eden-Monaro Araluen Domestic Duties M Wooderson Ernest Edward NSW Betts Street East Kempsey 1231 Cowper Kempsey Labourer F Wooderson Esther NSW Brien Street The Junction 645 Newcastle The Junction Domestic Duties M Wooderson Frederick NSW Betts Street East Kempsey 1232 Cowper Kempsey Labourer M Wooderson Frederick Thomas NSW Betts Street East Kempsey 1233 Cowper Kempsey Labourer M Wooderson Henry Simms NSW Araluen 584 Eden-Monaro Araluen Dredge Builder M Wooderson James Robert NSW Medowie Raymond Terrace 736 Hunter Raymond Terrace Farmer F Wooderson Margaret NSW 57 Hunter Street West Honeysuckle Point 2491 Newcastle Honeysuckle Point Domestic Duties F Wooderson Mary NSW Lewis Street Islington 1007 Newcastle Islington Domestic Duties M Wooderson Robert NSW Stewart's Brook 117 Hunter Stewart's Brook Miner M Wooderson Thomas James NSW Taylor's Arm 122 Cowper Taylor's Arm Farmer M Wooderson Thomas James NSW Taylor's Arm 348 Cowper Macksville Farmer M Wooderson William Alfred NSW Islington 1008 Newcastle Islington Agent HTH Bye MargM Member of Central Coast Family History Society Gosford NSW

Hi List, I am searching for information on James Robert Wooderson who came to Australia after 1861 (found marriage details in England Dec 1861 to person unknown) and he then married Margaret Emma Cavander in January,1868 in Newcastle. According to 1861 Census he was in the Royal Navy in Britain. I have not been able to locate details of him arriving in Australia but have found the above marriage and also found details of the birth of their children. The Wooderson family appears to have lived around the Newcastle, Wallsend, Scone area. It looks like James's father Henry along with Jame's siblings came to Australia sometime in the 1860's. I would appreciate any suggestions as to where to look for further information on this family. Many thanks Marie

There is a property called Fern Hill on the road between Penrith and Mulgoa. Still has lovely old heritage residence on it. Marie

Thanks for the reply -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tracy Galway Sent: Thursday, 30 November 2006 5:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HHHV] Locality - Fern Hill Hi Keith Not sure if this is what you were after, by memory there was a property owned by one of the COX family called FERN HILL, still there today I think, once again by memory it's around the Mulgoa/Penrith area. There is also a FERN HILL between Grafton and Inverell, Northern Rivers, NSW. Hope this helps a little. Best Wishes Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Skinner" <[email protected]> To: "Hawkesbury List UG" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: [HHHV] Locality - Fern Hill > Could you please advise where the locality 'Fern Hill' was located? I > think > it is somewhere in the Richmond area. > > > > The locality keeps coming up on Births/Deaths etc, and I can't seem to > find > it in the Gazeteer for NSW. The only Fern Hill is near Bathurst. > > > > Thanks for any help offered. > > > > Regards - Keith Skinner > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could you please advise where the locality 'Fern Hill' was located? I think it is somewhere in the Richmond area. The locality keeps coming up on Births/Deaths etc, and I can't seem to find it in the Gazeteer for NSW. The only Fern Hill is near Bathurst. Thanks for any help offered. Regards - Keith Skinner

Hi Keith Not sure if this is what you were after, by memory there was a property owned by one of the COX family called FERN HILL, still there today I think, once again by memory it's around the Mulgoa/Penrith area. There is also a FERN HILL between Grafton and Inverell, Northern Rivers, NSW. Hope this helps a little. Best Wishes Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Skinner" <[email protected]> To: "Hawkesbury List UG" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: [HHHV] Locality - Fern Hill > Could you please advise where the locality 'Fern Hill' was located? I > think > it is somewhere in the Richmond area. > > > > The locality keeps coming up on Births/Deaths etc, and I can't seem to > find > it in the Gazeteer for NSW. The only Fern Hill is near Bathurst. > > > > Thanks for any help offered. > > > > Regards - Keith Skinner > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >