I second that Marje, Bill does a wonderful job Well done and many thanks Lynette ----- Original Message ----- From: <MarjeDawn@aol.com> To: <aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [HHHV] Hawkesbury Deaths. SMH 1885. > > Hello Bill, > > Thank you for all the work you have done in transcribing for the Ryerson > Index and sending relevant items to the List.. > > Marje > > >

Good Morning List, Preparing information to index for www.ryersonindex.org from the Sydney Morning Heralds of 1888 I found the following deaths relating to the Hawkesbury. SMH 7 Jun 1888. Samuel Hitchen CLARKE on 31 May 1888 at FREEMANS REACH, aged ?? 83. SMH 19 Jun 1888. Joseph RELF at RIVERSTONE. Native of BRIGHTON. ENGLAND. Home & N.Z. papers to copy. Sincerely,Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13210 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Good Morning List, As I gather information from the Sydney Morning Herald for www.ryersonindex.org to index into the site, I have found the following deaths with the Hawkesbury area mentioned. SMH 5 Jan 1885. Lilly Mary BOWLIN on 27 Dec at WINDSOR 3 years 5 months, AND Alexander Edward BOWLIN 30 Dec 19 months. SMH 7 Jan 1885. Charles Mead NORTON, twin infant son on 2 Jan 1885. SMH 8 Jan 1885. Alexander Edward BOWLIN at WINDSOR and Lilly Mary BOWLIIN on 27 Dec. SMH 14 Jan 1885. George Theodore HASSALL, near WINDSOR 8 Jan 1885, 13 years 5 months. SMH 10 Feb 1885. Infant son of David WILSON at SURRY HILLS of WINDSOR on 8 Feb 1885. 17 months. SMH 17 Feb 1885. Edward COBCROFT died at home of his father RICHMOND, son of David & Mary. Funeral half past 2 o'clock this date (Tues 17th) from residence of father, RICHMOND. N. T. PRICE Undertaker. SMH 22 Feb 1885. Ida BEBERIDGE died 21 Feb, daughter of Lizzie and Peter. SMH 3 Mar 1885. Eliza Sarah CALVER (TUWIETH) late of RICHMOND. FOREST LODGE, BALMAIN. Several funeral notices from William, her father, William & Charles, brothers, William CALVER husband, George KING, BIL, Edward HEMMING, BIL. Also notice on the 4 Mar 1885. Aged 30. SMH 7 Mar 1885. James COLE died 26 Feb 1885 at Peat's Ferry, HAWKESBURY RIVER. Leaving wife and 9 children. Bristol papers to copy. Sincerely,Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13210 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Hello Bill, Thank you for all the work you have done in transcribing for the Ryerson Index and sending relevant items to the List.. Marje > Good Morning List, > As I gather information from the Sydney Morning Herald for > www.ryersonindex.org to index into the site, I have found the following deaths with the > Hawkesbury area mentioned. > > > SMH 5 Jan 1885. Lilly Mary BOWLIN on 27 Dec at WINDSOR 3 years 5 months, > AND Alexander Edward BOWLIN 30 Dec 19 months. > > SMH 7 Jan 1885. Charles Mead NORTON, twin infant son on 2 Jan 1885. > > SMH 8 Jan 1885. Alexander Edward BOWLIN at WINDSOR and Lilly Mary BOWLIIN > on 27 Dec. > > SMH 14 Jan 1885. George Theodore HASSALL, near WINDSOR 8 Jan 1885, 13 > years 5 months. > > SMH 10 Feb 1885. Infant son of David WILSON at SURRY HILLS of WINDSOR on 8 > Feb 1885. 17 months. > > SMH 17 Feb 1885. Edward COBCROFT died at home of his father RICHMOND, son > of David & Mary. > Funeral half past 2 o'clock this date (Tues 17th) from residence of > father, RICHMOND. N. T. PRICE Undertaker. > > SMH 22 Feb 1885. Ida BEBERIDGE died 21 Feb, daughter of Lizzie and Peter. > > SMH 3 Mar 1885. Eliza Sarah CALVER (TUWIETH) late of RICHMOND. FOREST > LODGE, BALMAIN. > Several funeral notices from William, her father, William & Charles, > brothers, William CALVER husband, George KING, BIL, Edward HEMMING, BIL. Also > notice on the 4 Mar 1885. Aged 30. > > SMH 7 Mar 1885. James COLE died 26 Feb 1885 at Peat's Ferry, HAWKESBURY > RIVER. Leaving wife and 9 children. Bristol papers to copy. > > Sincerely,Bill > > >

The "Hawkesbury Chronicle" newspaper reported in February 1888 the following statistics : WINDSOR 1886 Births 207 Deaths 77 Marriages 32 WINDSOR 1887 Births 213 Deaths 83 Marriages 28 The comment was that the births and deaths were "more numerous" whilst the "marriages (as in Richmond) have been less - which is regretted." Michelle Nichols

Hi, I'm new to this list. I am searching for information about the HAWKINS family. I have been searching for the birth of Thomas HAWKINS, born around 1856 probably at Camyr Allyn, near East Gresford. Thomas was my G Grandfather. He and his wife, Mary Francis Louisa MALONE ended up living in the Inverell area for a while before coming to Sydney to live. I've found his brothers and sisters birth/christening records but not his. I probably never will, but I can live in hope. Thomas's parents were John HAWKINS and Mary COLLINS. They were married in 1845 in Gresford. All of their other children (that I have records for) were born between 1846 and 1858 in Gresford. Some records noted that the father (John) was a servant at Camyr Allyn, so I'm thinking that John must have been either an assigned convict, a worker or a tenant to Charles BOYDELL, the owner of Camyr Allyn at that time. Someone told me that a John HAWKINS is mentioned in a book on Boydell published by Paterson Historical Society. John donated to a couple of funds in 1852 and 1857, collected by Boydell. All I know about John HAWKINS is that he was probably English, born around 1807 and a widower when he married Mary COLLINS. All I know about Mary is that she was Irish and born around 1818. I'd love to know more about them all. Cheers Robyn Horan Sydney

Dear Garry, Have youchecked the Hawkesbury Landholders CD's? Have you cheked the "Green Hills" map with landholders on it? Sincerely,Bill > > Looking for assistance on a John Gregory, a settler who held 25 acres of > land in the Hawkesbury. > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13180 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Dear list, Looking for assistance on a John Gregory, a settler who held 25 acres of land in the Hawkesbury. It seems one of my ancestors Irishman John Lyons was assigned to this John Gregory in 1806. So if anyone knows who John Gregory was, or were his 25 acres was located - could they please advise. I would very much appreciate any information anyone might have on this person. Thank You Garry Sanders Kariong, NSW

Hello Bill These inquests might prove to be very useful....I checked BDM for a death entry for the last inquest (1820s) that Max put to the Sydney List. There was no entry for the death in BDM ...these inquests might prove to be the only evidence of certain deaths especially if pre civil registration or if for some reason the death registration did not take place. I have subscribed to the Sydney List and will be watching these inquests as I have a great great grandfather whose death or burial I have never been able to find. Maybe one day he might turn up in one of these inquests. My thanks to Max! Cheers Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <oldboybill@westnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [HHHV] Vital Statistics > Dear Ray, > > The Inquests have been posted to the Sydney List by Max in the last few > weeks, not the DPS. Max is a lister on that site, and most of the deaths > needing an Inquest have occurred in the Sydney area. In those times the > Inquest was usually held the day of death or the day after, the report > being > posted in the Sydney Morning Herald the following day. > > My main purpose in going through the newspapers is to extract the Death > information for the Ryerson Index, www.ryersonindex.org and because a lot > of > Funeral Notices published in this period do not have corresponding Death > Notices, we are also indexing Funerals for this period to get a greater > coverage, however where there is a Death Notice, there will not be a > double > up of the notices when there is a Funeral Notice also, the researcher will > have to search for it themselves, as they do with other notices on the > Ryerson Index. > > I posted a couple of Inquests to the Sydney list myself, and asked if > anyone > cared to continue to post them, and Max Bancroft has been doing them from > information I have supplied to him. > > Some Inquest reports from the Sydney Morning Herald do not have much > information, but it is I believe more than State Records at Kingswood > have, > as no papers for that period "survived". > > As I was not looking for them specifically there were not many notices > from > the papers of 1881-2-4, but in later times I kept a closer eye out for > them, > so the numbers each year have in fact increased. > > Sincerely, Bill > > > >> Hello Bill, please forgive my ignorance, but is there any way to be able >> to >> just BROWSE through all of the INQUESTS only on the DPS site? >> >> When I investigate in there, I cannot find any guidance toward finding >> them >> alone. > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.13130 > http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Hi Heather Thanks for the email. I hope I may be able to purchase one of these books. It would be fantastic to have one on the shelf of the Greentree family. Cheers Diane G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather ." <h_o_green@hotmail.com> To: <aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [HHHV] GREENTREE FAMILY Morning All There have been a number of books written on the Greentree family. The best being by Phillip Greentree which is out of print. There are a few books available at Windsor library Cheers Heather _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a place to rent, share or buy this winter? Find your next place with Ninemsn property http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Edomain%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Fs%5Fcid%3DFDMedia%3ANineMSN%5FHotmail%5FTagline&_t=774152450&_r=Domain_tagline&_m=EXT ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning All There have been a number of books written on the Greentree family. The best being by Phillip Greentree which is out of print. There are a few books available at Windsor library Cheers Heather _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a place to rent, share or buy this winter? Find your next place with Ninemsn property http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Edomain%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Fs%5Fcid%3DFDMedia%3ANineMSN%5FHotmail%5FTagline&_t=774152450&_r=Domain_tagline&_m=EXT

Good evening list, As I gather information to index into www.ryersonindex.org I found the following Hawkesbury Death Notices published in the Sydney Morning Herald:- 3 Apr 1888. Mary DORSET on 2 Apr 1888, at Palace Hotel, HAYMARKET. Relict of James DORSET formerly of WINDSOR. Aged 74. Funeral from Palace Hotel, HAYMARKET 1/4 past 8 o'clock to REDFERN Station, then 9 o'clock train to WINDSOR. William J DIXON. 40 and 169 Riley Street, A separate notice from John, George and James WOOD invited friends to attend the funeral of their grandmother. 7 Apr 1888. John THROWDEN died on 23 Mar 1888 from a train accident at HARRIS PARK, native of WINDSOR, late of ROOKWOOD, son of Joseph, BIL of Joseph CRAIG, aged 12. Sincerely,Bill E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13150 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Thanks Ian I think the National Archives of Ireland have done a magnificent job in providing the 1911 Census of Ireland free online to researchers from all over the world. In a world where more and more information is charged for and therefore beyond the reach of those who cannot afford to pay it is so refreshing to find such a valuable resource freely available to all. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Jordan" <paynescrossing@gmail.com> To: "aus-nsw-hunter-valley" <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com>; <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com>; <aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com>; <aus-nsw-west@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 5:19 PM Subject: [HHHV] Off topic: 1911 Census of Ireland - all 32 counties nowavailable online >I thought it might interest some to know that all thirty-two counties > for the 1911 Irish Census are now available on this site: > > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ > > Free to search and you can freely download a PDF image of the > *original* census return which may interest you. > > You can also browse by County then by District Electoral Divisions (DEDs). > > More information at: > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/help/about19011911census.html#whatcontain > > Search help at: > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/help/help.html > > Regards > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

I thought it might interest some to know that all thirty-two counties for the 1911 Irish Census are now available on this site: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ Free to search and you can freely download a PDF image of the *original* census return which may interest you. You can also browse by County then by District Electoral Divisions (DEDs). More information at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/help/about19011911census.html#whatcontain Search help at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/help/help.html Regards

I think I have answered this one on the PJ List regards Lesley Uebel mailto:ckennedy@bigpond.net.au CLAIM A CONVICT http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Louise Clayton Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:46 PM To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HHHV] Any information on a convict Anne Burke Hi All I am still trying to solve my John Jones mystery. I have found a John Jones marrying an Ann Burke in Maitland area (CT) on NSW BDM site in 1835. I think the Ann Burke maybe a convict named Anne Burke who arrived on the Edward arriving 26th June 1829 from Cork. This Anne Burke received her Cert. of Freedom on 20 Oct 1834. My Mary Jones was born in Black creek Bulawarra in 1843, Her parents were a John and a Margaret Jones. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Louise in Wagga

Hi All I am still trying to solve my John Jones mystery. I have found a John Jones marrying an Ann Burke in Maitland area (CT) on NSW BDM site in 1835. I think the Ann Burke maybe a convict named Anne Burke who arrived on the Edward arriving 26th June 1829 from Cork. This Anne Burke received her Cert. of Freedom on 20 Oct 1834. My Mary Jones was born in Black creek Bulawarra in 1843, Her parents were a John and a Margaret Jones. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Louise in Wagga

Hi everyone I am giving a presentation as part of History Week NSW (5-13th Sept) The topic is Scandals, Crime & Corruption in the Hawkesbury. I have quite a few examples but am looking for a few more. The date range is from the 1790s to the 1920s. So if anyone on the list has some shady, seedy characters in their family tree, bigamists, scandals, crimes or villains I would love to hear from you. Please contact me off list, my email is michelle_nichols@hotmail.com Also there are heaps of intersting events happening throughout NSW for History Week so check out the website http://www.historycouncilnsw.org.au/events/history-week Michelle Nichols

Dear Ray, >From memory there are about a dozen Inquests already posted. Dozens more to come, so that strength needs to go to Max who was kind enough to take up the challenge. It is a challenge because some of the information is very hard to read. Regards,Bill > Hello Bill. > Thank you very much for such a complete reply to my question. > My apologies for having mis-read your posting, because you did originally > say that he posted to the Sydney list. But as I was unaware of such a > list, > I had misunderstood. > Now I will have to go into their archives to see the postings. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13130 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Hello Bill. Thank you very much for such a complete reply to my question. My apologies for having mis-read your posting, because you did originally say that he posted to the Sydney list. But as I was unaware of such a list, I had misunderstood. Now I will have to go into their archives to see the postings. With my usual gratitude to you, for this helpful reply as well as for your seemingly untiring efforts with the Ryerson Index. More strength to your arm, sir! Regards: Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <oldboybill@westnet.com.au> > Dear Ray, > > The Inquests have been posted to the Sydney List by Max in the last few > weeks, not the DPS. ...

Good afternoon list, Max has just posted this information to the Sydney List which may interest some listers. Sincerely, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Bancroft" <maxwell1@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:26 PM Subject: [ANS] Fw: Execution of Percy LEFROY > Execution Lefroy > > > > Sydney Morning Herald 13th of January 1882 > > > > The execution of Lefroy > > > > The Dailey News of November 30 states that Lefroy was executed on the > > previous morning inside Lewes gaol. At about half past 8 the reporters, to > > the number of about 15 who, with the exception of the gaol officials, were > > the only witnesses of the execution were admitted to the gaol. Their > > credentials having been carefully inspected, they were passed on to the > room > > > of the visiting justices, where they waited until a few minutes before 9. > At > > > a quarter to 9 the first note of the prison bell was sounded, and its > knell > > continued at regular intervals until everything was over. At 5 minutes to > 9 > > a warder summoned the reporters, who followed him through two courtyard, > in > > which, as the paved pathway indicated, the convicts are in the habit of > > taking their daily exercise. In the third and final one was erected the > > gallows. Just inside the doorway stood Marwood, with his pinioning > apparatus > > > in his hand. He was summoned away, and a pause of some few moments ensued, > > at the end of which the voice of the chaplain was heard, and those > standing > > in the courtyard bared their heads and turned towards a further door, > whence > > > the procession was issuing. The Chaplain robed in his surplice, came > first, > > pronouncing in a loud voice, though with evident signs of emotion, the > > appointed service. The central and conspicuous object of that little band, > > that slowly de-filed towards the platform where he was to meet his fate, > was > > > of course Lefroy himself. He was dressed in a brown tweed suit. He had no > > covering to his head and no collar round his neck. The gray woolen shirt > he > > wore was open and turned back at the edges in front, showing his long, > thin > > neck. His face which pale enough during his trial, now showed not a > vestige > > of colour. His eyes were turned upwards towards the sun, which was > shinning > > full in his face, and its glare imparted an unusual brilliancy to them. > > Arriving at the drop, he allowed himself quietly to be placed thereon and > > pinioned as to his legs. Marwood was scarcely a minute about his task, and > > while the Chaplain was yet repeating the words of the service he had gone > to > > > the side, pulled a lever and Lefroy had disapeared from sight. That death > > was instantaneous there can be no doubt for there was no evidence of any > > subsequent struggling. The drop was at least 8 feet, and in all > probability > > the neck was at once broken. The black flag was at once hoisted, and it > was > > regarded with much curiosity by a considerable crowd who had gathered > > outside the prison gates in the interval. The whole business of the > > execution occupied about three minutes. > > > > Regards > > > > Max Bancroft > > > > P.S. By googling Lefroy+hanging I came across a different account of the > > hanging which gives details of the murder Lefroy committed. > > See http://www.mytimemachine.co.uk/execution.htm > > . > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.13130 > http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/ E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13130 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/