Marg Thank you for your reply. I know that John Joseph Rae had a farm , shown on 1921,1925 & 1928 electoral roll as Brayton( name of property?) Mt Penang. James Edward Rae lived at Spiers Rd Gosford 1925,& 1928, and during 1921-1922 was listed as living at York St Gosford. My grandmother, Emma Pennell Rae had 13 children, yet I have only found 12. Could be a missing child amongst your funerals? I am also looking for the death of the father of these 2 men, also a James Rae, who lived at Windermere in Victoria, but when his wife died in 1891, no more trace of him. I wonder if he followed his sons to NSW. Thank you again. Margaret