Hello Gwen, Any information for Margaret or I ? PamC (nee COULTER) Blue Mtns, NSW. Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargaretB" <mbergies@kooee.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] The Old Inns > Hi Pam > > I know no more then what is in the article. > > Would be interesting to find out why it was named "Heart and Hand" > > MargaretB > Lake Macquarie > NSW Australia > > <snip > Did the COULTER's once own/lease the Heart and Hand ? > >snip > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > A problem aired is a problem shared >

Hello Pam and MargaretB, Sorry, can't help at the moment re the HEART AND HAND HOTEL and the Coulter brothers in this connection, but will have a search when I am over next week - flat to the boards at present. Think there are some references in Keith H. Clouten's book 'Reid's Mistake' (Lake Macquarie Shire Council 1967) but you are probably aware of those. My copy seems to be out on loan to someone as I have gone cross-eyed looking for it in the book shelves. The naming of pubs - well, probably they were called after similar establishments in Britain, and maybe not. Similar names do ring a bell from time to time. Regards, Gwen

Hi Pam, Gwen and List I had the Reid's Mistake book at home, so have typed up relevant entries. Page 220 Samuel and Edwin COULTER operated a small fleet of ships in partnership with the BLACKFORD family, who also resided at Cooranbong. Two years before the "Emily and Mary" was launched, the two families were together operating at least four vessels on Lake Macquarie. Two of these craft, the "Maggie Scott" and the "Queen", seem to have been utilized mainly in taking hardwood from Cooranbong to Newcastle. Two other small ketches, named "Star of Peace" (17 tons) and "Sea Gull", made regular trips to Sydney with oak shingles, the cargo averaging approximately 65,000 shingles for each boat. The "Sea Gull" met with an untimely end in the spring of 1876, while endeavouring to cross the Lake entrance bar. ..more...... All hands on board the craft were drowned. If anyone has an interest with the Blackford family I know a young man who would appreciate some extra relatives. MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Hi Margaret, Thanks for page 220 information, PamC (nee COULTER) Blue Mtns, NSW. Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargaretB" <mbergies@kooee.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] The Old Inns COULTER and BLACKFORD > Hi Pam, Gwen and List > > I had the Reid's Mistake book at home, so have typed up relevant entries. > > Page 220 > Samuel and Edwin COULTER operated a small fleet of ships in partnership with > the BLACKFORD family, who also resided at Cooranbong. Two years before the > "Emily and Mary" was launched, the two families were together operating at > least four vessels on Lake Macquarie. Two of these craft, the "Maggie > Scott" and the "Queen", seem to have been utilized mainly in taking hardwood > from Cooranbong to Newcastle. Two other small ketches, named "Star of > Peace" (17 tons) and "Sea Gull", made regular trips to Sydney with oak > shingles, the cargo averaging approximately 65,000 shingles for each boat. > The "Sea Gull" met with an untimely end in the spring of 1876, while > endeavouring to cross the Lake entrance bar. ..more...... All hands on board > the craft were drowned. > > If anyone has an interest with the Blackford family I know a young man who > would appreciate some extra relatives. > > MargaretB > Lake Macquarie > NSW Australia > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > Please type surnames only in all caps. Helps them stand out from a computer screen >

Hello Pam There are 9 Blackfords and 1 Coulter buried at the cemetery attached to St. Patrick & St Brigids R.C. Church at Cooranbong. Do you want details. Jenny McCarthy

Reids Mistake (printed 1967) page 233 On the western side of the Catholic Church, Edwin COULTER established a general store about 1875. With his brother Sam, Edwin owned and operated one or two ketches of the timber cargo fleet, and in those days a general store was a profitable concern if you possessed your own means of importing stock. About 1880 Edwin COULTER turned his business to greater profit by erecting a two-storied hotel which he christened the Heart and Hand. This and O'NEIL's Cricketer's Arms were the two hotels mentioned in a description of the town in 1883. The Heart and Hand was pulled down after the railway boom, and a house now standing on the site is said to contain some of the timber from the old hotel. MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Thanks for typing up those refs from 'Reid's Mistake' by K. Clouten, Margaret. Pam has her own copy of the book I think. Last night I looked up my possibly incomplete licensing notes on the HEART AND HAND hotel at Cooranbong, and they are as follows: James O'NEILL was licensee of the HEART AND HAND HOTEL from 1.7.1876 to 30.6.1877, when he became licensee of the CRICKETERS HOME INN, also at Cooranbong (this was not new - John O'LEARY was licensee in 1869, and perhaps earlier). 1877: Edwin COULTER took over the HEART AND HAND, and remained licensee until 1884. Then followed: 1885 -1886 George BEVAN 1887 John T. SMITH 1888 - 1889 Dennis CULLA 1890 -1898 William H. SMITH 1898 to 6June 1900 Thomas CAPPER (did not use the whole of the latter year's licensing period, and perhaps this was when the pub was finally delicensed. I do not know). These notes were made a long time ago at the Mitchell Library in Sydney by consulting the Government Gazettes (bound volumes on the shelves). Look for 'Publicans Licences' in each year's index. I happened to be looking for particular Gosford hotels at the time, but jotted down the Coulter connection, since he originated at Brisbane Water. Best regards to all from Gwen