Hi Sharon Didnt you get this email and read it ???????????. Your responce to Gren DUNDONs email made me wonder, in particular, regardless of what your father said , as to where your grandfather died. They could well be in un marked graves but I am as sure as I can be without siting his death cert that they are not in the same cemetery The info in the email took abit more than a couple of minutes to gather together so please read it all amd answer my questions and you might get more info ! Bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected] Bye > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Griffiths" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 01 March 2001 02:54 > Subject: WRENCH Family Info > > Hi Sharon > >> re THOMAS WINN believed to be born near the Hawkesbury on 6/6 > 1896 and > > there is no > > birth records for that name. > > > > His WW1 record recorded him as HENRY JAMES WRENCH [Thomas Winn} > > Born 6/6/1891 in Gosford NSW. > > His birth rego is in the NSW Federation Index as Henry James > WRENCH ref 1893 / 14071 Gosford > > > > > Last week I received all Dad's ww1 war records and it all points > to the > > facts we know, and the stories Dad told us - so I figure he was > born a > > WRENCH > > Correct > > and changed his name to WINN sometime between 1919 and 1942 > > (probably while in UK) No-one yet knows why. > > Dad met and married Mum in UK returned to Oz in 1948 the migration > records > > with my Mum and 2 elder siblings on the > > boat recorded him as NORMAN JAMES WINN. > > > > What about your parents marriage cert ??? Do you have a copy ?? > NO - MUM > > HASNT A COPY AND DOESNT KNOW THE DATE (KNOWS THE CHURCH IN LONDON > THOUGH) > > When was their eldest child born ?? Does she remember which time of year ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > WAS 28 YEARS OLDER THAN MUM AND RATHER SECRETIVE TOO. THEY > SEPARATED WHEN > > I WAS 4, THOUGH WE ALWAYS HAD CONTACT. > Did they get divorced ?? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ???? > > What does this say for names of your fathers parents ? FROM MY > SEARCH THEY > > ARE JOEL AND HARRIET S WRENCH. > > Correct , your Dad was the youngest > A HARRIET WRENCH DIED IN 1895 > > At Gosford in 1895 ref #1347 > > > > > > > Dad lost his mother early on and was one of the youngest in a > > large family. > > He was the youngest > > > MY SEARCH INDICATES Henry J Wrench's siblings to be > > > > 1) John J WRECH dob 1877 b Waterloo , m Rose MOORE 1900 /2816 > Sydney > > > > 2) Ethel May dob 1878 b Waterloo m Francis B STEVENS 1904 / > 5038 Sydney > > > > 3) Albert George dob 1880 b Central cumberland m Catherines > COLLINS St Leonards 1902 > > > > > 4) Fredrick William dob 1883 b Gosford m Vera C DOYNE St > Leonards 1909 > > > 5) Henry James (DAD) dob 1891 Gosford > > > > > > He was brought up by his Dad hovever I think his dad died when > he > > was in> early teens. > > No......... Joel WRENCH d aged 82 in 1932 ref # 5966 Chatswood > parents names N/K. He didnt leave a will > > . He told me his parents (my > > paternal> grandparents) were buried in unmarked graves at the > Yarramalong > > Cemetry on a rise beside a Church I tried to find the Church 2 > years ago > > Think it highly unlikely someone whose death registered at Chatswood > be buried anywhere up here. Far more likely to have gone to either > Northern suburbs at North Ryde or Rookwood > > > > it was> gone! Apparently burnt down a few years ago. MUM THINKS > THIS WAS > > NARARA CEMETRY, > > Not aware of any cemetery ever being at Narara > > NOT YARRAMALONG. DID THAT BURN DOWN? IS THAT CEMETRY ON > > THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE OLD HIGHWAY BETWEEN GOSFORD AND WYONG ON A > HILLSIDE > > (OR SLOPE)? > > That discription could fit Lisarow Cemetery ?? > > > > > IS IT POSSIBLE TO ESTABLISH IF THERE WAS A BURIAL FOR DADS > PARENTS OR HIS > > SIBLINGS? > > Of course it is. You need to buy say 3 certs to start with > ........ Your fathers birth and both his parents death certs All > these docs will give you info hard / impossible to get other wise > > You can still get transcription of many NSW BDMs .....see > www.marbract.com.au > for info . Or you can order via the NSW BDMs on line > www.nsw.bdm.gov.au > > I also found death of Rose WRENCH 1934/ 779 aged 60 Auburn > > and Albert George WRENCH d 1941/ 8655 Canterbury > > Francis Charles STEVENS d 13 Oct 1940 Burwood . He left a will ref > 254165 > > Ethel May STEVENS d 15 Oct 1929 Burwood She left a will ref > 184613 > > And in the assisted migrants indexes the arrival of Joel and Harriet > WRENCH on the ship 'Lord Dalhousie' , which arr Sydney 7 May 1877. > He was 26 , she 23. > He was son of John & Mary from Huntingdonshire , ag lab, C of E , > could read and write > > She was from London, parents BD , C of E could read and write > > hope this helps > > Bye > > Marg Morters > NSW Central Coast Mailing List > Gosford, NSW > Australia > [email protected] > >