further to this discussion. I presume it was named after Governor Brisbane around the same time as Brisbane was named- very confusing really.] It's original name was the northwest arm of broken Bay. On the waterfront just down below where I live - actually near the boat ramp at the end of Orana ST behind the Green Point shops, there is an obelisk that was erected in 1988 (I think!) to commemorate the visit in June 1789 by Governor Phillip and the other 'heavies' of the early settlement. They were looking for arable land as food shortages were major early problems for the colony. When you stand and look out from the spot now, it doesn't look, apart from housing, a whole lot different from what it must have looked then- steep heavily wooded hills- lots of fish and small native animals I presume From memory, the first grant of 600? acres was made to someone called Smythe around 1830. If any one wants the correct wording, I'll take pen and paper next time I go for a walk along the waterfront. Judy Gifford, a born and bred local whose roots go back to E Gosford in 1855 with the arrival of the proverbial John Smith and family, butcher of E Gosford, who came from Oving, Bucks and was first employed as a butcher by an early settler called NUNN. he built the stone house that is on the left at the Punt Bridge just as you leave E Gosford. (CAIN and ROGERS are 2 connected families)