Hi Gwen, You are quite right. The Baptism entries confirm Edwards birthdate as 1st Aug. 1848 with John & Jane Berry as parents. John's Birthdate is listed as 1st May 1849 with John Berry & Jane Fletcher as parents. Just to make it interesting, John Jnr's marriage certificate (1875) lists his mother as Elizabeth Murund ?. I have not been able to find any trace of anyone of them as yet. Does the source that you accessed give any clue as to John Berry's history. For example, is there any chance that he is John Berry the ex convict who had a brother Daniel living in the Brisbane Waters district at the time. Do you think that the Glennie journals would be likely to give me any leads on either the family/births or the lead up to the infirmary admission request. If yes. where would I be likely to get access to them. Thanks for the help Regards Scott Matthews