Hi All Following on with the cousin meanings can anyone answer my question of being refered to as the' 42nd cousin.' Was this a expression of early 1900 and what does it mean? I havent been able to find anyone to tell me. Thanks Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne and Ron Flack" <bell.bird@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Henry Kendall and 'cousin' > Hi Darlene > > Go to for Henry Kendall > > http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/K/KendallHenry/verse/PoemsOfKendall/biographical.html > > > http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/authors/kendallh/kendallh.html > > http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/K/KendallHenry/ > > Doing a google search will give you all the information you need. > > For cousins and family this is an informative site > > http://www.answers.com/topic/family > > For other meanings eg: > There is more about the connection with English cousin, which, by the way, > used to refer to any relative, not just the son or daughter of an uncle or > aunt. The OED records the phrase to call cousins, meaning 'to claim > kinship with', and also the phrase to make a cousin of, meaning 'to > deceive or cheat'. Therefore, both English and Middle French cousin once > meant 'a gullible person; a dupe', and these phrases play on the words > cozen/cousin. Even the noun cozenage, 'the act of cozening; trickery', was > originally spelled cousinage, the primary meaning of which is > 'relationship of cousins; kinship'. The verse of Samuel Rowlands > illustrates this double meaning: "Brotherhood once in kindred bore the > sway, But that dates out, and Coosnage hath the day." > > go to > > http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20010220 > > > > Kind regards > > Joanne > > " > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darlene Thornton and Tony Stein" <tony@ar.com.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:52 PM > Subject: [ANCC] Henry Kendall and 'cousin' > > >> Hello, >> >> I've got a chance to drive up north to pop in Gosford for a lunch and bit >> of shopping. I happen to pass a sign saying "Henry Kendall Cottage" - now >> I cannot recall seeing the sign. So now my cursisoty is getting ahead of >> me - can anyone fill me in about him, etc. >> >> And another request - I recall reading something about the term "cousin" >> which can means more than it is referred as now... can anyone enlight me >> with meaning for "cousin" in the old days, especially around 1890s. >> >> Thanks, >> Darlene T >> >> ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== >> Please type surnames only in all caps. Helps them stand out from a >> computer screen >> >> > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > If you find a good source of Central Coast info , let us all know > >
Hi Darlene Go to for Henry Kendall http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/K/KendallHenry/verse/PoemsOfKendall/biographical.html http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/authors/kendallh/kendallh.html http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/K/KendallHenry/ Doing a google search will give you all the information you need. For cousins and family this is an informative site http://www.answers.com/topic/family For other meanings eg: There is more about the connection with English cousin, which, by the way, used to refer to any relative, not just the son or daughter of an uncle or aunt. The OED records the phrase to call cousins, meaning 'to claim kinship with', and also the phrase to make a cousin of, meaning 'to deceive or cheat'. Therefore, both English and Middle French cousin once meant 'a gullible person; a dupe', and these phrases play on the words cozen/cousin. Even the noun cozenage, 'the act of cozening; trickery', was originally spelled cousinage, the primary meaning of which is 'relationship of cousins; kinship'. The verse of Samuel Rowlands illustrates this double meaning: "Brotherhood once in kindred bore the sway, But that dates out, and Coosnage hath the day." go to http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20010220 Kind regards Joanne " ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darlene Thornton and Tony Stein" <tony@ar.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:52 PM Subject: [ANCC] Henry Kendall and 'cousin' > Hello, > > I've got a chance to drive up north to pop in Gosford for a lunch and bit > of shopping. I happen to pass a sign saying "Henry Kendall Cottage" - now > I cannot recall seeing the sign. So now my cursisoty is getting ahead of > me - can anyone fill me in about him, etc. > > And another request - I recall reading something about the term "cousin" > which can means more than it is referred as now... can anyone enlight me > with meaning for "cousin" in the old days, especially around 1890s. > > Thanks, > Darlene T > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > Please type surnames only in all caps. Helps them stand out from a > computer screen > >
Hello, I've got a chance to drive up north to pop in Gosford for a lunch and bit of shopping. I happen to pass a sign saying "Henry Kendall Cottage" - now I cannot recall seeing the sign. So now my cursisoty is getting ahead of me - can anyone fill me in about him, etc. And another request - I recall reading something about the term "cousin" which can means more than it is referred as now... can anyone enlight me with meaning for "cousin" in the old days, especially around 1890s. Thanks, Darlene T
Dear Listers The RAHS and State Records are having a 1/2 day seminar on Primary Applications and other land records . at State Records, Kingswood Sat 13 August 10.30 - 1.30 the cost of $12 incs morning tea You need to book via RAHS 9247 8001 to reserve a seat Bye MargM Central Coast List Admin
Hi All I'm trying to find out if anyone knows of a Ted Briggs who used to live at 73 Cadonia Rd, Tuggerawong. Ted died in 1998 and was the son of Phyllis and brother of Sally. I know this information may be too recent and because of privacy reasons people may feel uncomfortable in sending a reply to the list. If anyone knows of a contact relative for him please either contact me or pass my email on to the relative. Many thanks Alison Alison Briggs Sydney Australia *************************************************** Researching Briggs & Devine in Tasmania and the Briggs' of Yorkshire http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/i/Alison-Briggs-NSW/ ***************************************************
One week to go The Shoalhaven Family, Local & Cultural History Fair - next Friday 15th and Saturday 16th July 2005 at the Nowra School of Arts 10am - 4pm Free Entry. 20 stalls, 9 speakers. Enquiries to <wvost@swiftdsl:com.au> Mary L. Lidbetter
Shoalhaven Family Local & Cultural Fair - Nowra School of Arts Friday 15th & Saturday 16th July 2005 10am-4pm Lectures by Donation Speakers Friday: 11.30 Keith Campbell - Early Days of the Berry Estate 12.30 Gould Books - Digitising the Government Gazettes 1.30 Brother and Sister Paul of the LDS - LDS Records 2.30 James Donohoe - The Paracensus of Australia 3.30 Laurence Turtle - Wills & Probate Packets Saturday: 10.30 Ralph Hawkins - timbergetters of Pennant Hills 1816-1832 11.30 Cathy Dunn - Local Aboriginals 12.30 Marilyn Rowan - Transcription Services 1.30 Ray Thorburn - Guidelines to researching Your Family History Looking forward to seeing you there. Enquiries <wvost@swiftdsl.com.au> Mary L. Lidbetter
Shoalhaven Family Local & Cultural Fair - Nowra School of Arts Friday 15th & Saturday 16th July 2005 10am-4pm Lectures by Donation Speakers Friday: 11.30 Keith Campbell - Early Days of the Berry Estate 12.30 Gould Books - Digitising the Government Gazettes 1.30 Brother and Sister Paul of the LDS - LDS Records 2.30 James Donohoe - The Paracensus of Australia 3.30 Laurence Turtle - Wills & Probate Packets Saturday: 10.30 Ralph Hawkins - timbergetters of Pennant Hills 1816-1832 11.30 Cathy Dunn - Local Aboriginals 12.30 Marilyn Rowan - Transcription Services 1.30 Ray Thorburn - Guidelines to researching Your Family History Looking forward to seeing you there. Enquiries <wvost@swiftdsl.com.au> Mary L. Lidbetter
Shoalhaven Family Local & Cultural Fair - Nowra School of Arts Friday 15th & Saturday 16th July 2005 10am-4pm Free Entry Stall Holders:- Lady Denman Museum, Church of the Latter Day Saints, Berry Historical Society, Kiama Family History Resource Group, Greenwell Point & District History Group, Library of Australian History, Alan & JoyMurrin (Transcription Agent), Marilyn Rowan (Transcription Agent), Laurence Turtle (Transcription Agent), State Archives, Cathy Dunn - Historian, Mooving Images (Recording Family History on DVD with voice & music.) Gould Books, Bolong Church, Shoalhaven Library, Kangaroo Valley Pioneer Museum, Shoalhaven Historical Society, Australian/Cornish Association, Milton Ulladulla Family & Historical Society, Shoalhaven Family History Society. Looking forward to seeing you there. Enquiries <wvost@swiftdsl.com.au> Mary L. Lidbetter
Hi Jenny I had trouble myself in trying to find out what happened to James after he left the Gosford area, as you'd have realised from my book. Before I do a re-write, I'd like to get back to you and hopefully have your permission to correct my material with acknowledgement to you. I'm descended from a Coulson family from the north of England (an Isabella who was born in 1786). Do you know some more about Charlotte's family? Regards Liz P Jenny McCarthy wrote: >From book written by Liz Parkinson - pages 132 and 133 >James Harrison ......
I am seeking contact with anyone researching a James Harrison born in Manchester in 1814. He married Charlotte Coulson, youngest daughter of the late Quartermaster Coulson of the 3rd Regiment and lived at Wyong and Gosford and they had 8 children, two of whom died young and are buried at Point Frederick Cemetery. It is through the pages of the Rev. Alfred Glennie's Journal that we begin to find out what kind of people the Harrison family were. There are many references to picnics, excusions and sailing parties, and through the pages of the journals we know such things as the fact that Maud took music lessons from Rev. Glennie, and that at 'Mona Vale' there was a piano, a black servant and a maid. It seems that James Harrison lived as a retired gentleman. As well as being one of the local Justices of the Peace, James Harrison had, along with Henry Donnison, been elected as a Councillor of the Brisbane Water District Council in 1846 for a term of three years. however, he did not serve his full term; by 1848 he had been replaced. This may have been because of a temporary absence from the area. Harrison;s name appears in the Bench Records from 1849 to 1861, and he had been appointed Coroner in 1858. In 1861, along with Hely, Hargraves and Lyall Scott, he lost his commission. Hely and Scott resumed their bench duties the following year, but Harrison never appeared again. The last sat on the Bench at Gosford on 6 November 1862 James Harrison involved himself very much in the affairs of the Church. He was a Church Warden and in November 1858 he was chosen unanimously as Lay Representative for the District Parish at the December Conference held at Morpeth, which he attended with Rev. Glennie. Harrison was very active in the local boat racing held on the Broadwater.at Gosfored The Rev. Glennie had been gone from Gosford for nearly six years when, on 30 January 1869, he recorded that he received a letter that evening from Mr. Harrison announcing the death of Mrs. Harrison, at Booral, without any further comment. There are mentions in Rev Glennies Journal of Alice, Martha and Maria Harrison From book written by Liz Parkinson - pages 132 and 133 James Harrison Harrison was a gentleman settler. He was a Justice of the Peace and became a very active member of the Church of England in the Brisbane Water and is often mentioned by Reverend Alfred Glennie in his journals [5]. He was also a local magistrate between 1849 and 1861 and was the coroner from 1852 to 1871 The only other reference that can be found is a James Harrison was a Teacher at Stroud in 1872 There is a death of James Harrison at East Maitland on 21 November 1886 but there is no mention of his parents, or wife or children on ether the Death Certificate or the Inquest report in the Maitland Mercury but I think this is the right James. A Son James Brisbane Henry Harrison died in 1901 in Queensland but I cannot trace any of this other children. Can anyone assist me. Jenny McCarthy Brightwaters N.S.W. on beautiful Lake Macquarie
----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Clayton" <walburn@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: [ANCC] Ormiston family of Woy Woy Bay > Hi > Is anyone tracing the Ormiston family who lived in Woy Woy Bay in 1924? > I would love to hear from any descendents or > Hi Louise Regret I wasnt able to find much info . Robert H ORMISTON not at either Pt Clare or Wamberal cemeteries. In Gosford library we have films of the accounts of Creighton's funerals from 1909 - 89 . His funeral not done by them I checked Beresfield ( Newcastle's crematorium) but not there either . The Central Coast didnt have its own crematorium till about 1970 Were records of 2 x ORMISTONs at Beresfield James Smith d 26 Nov 1977 and Janet Tweedie 9 Jul 1975 , both of Cessnock Are 90 refs of misc ORMISTONS in the SAGs AGCI CD Robert H ORMISTON did leave a will # 171744 Woy Woy d 18 Nov 1930 Maybe there was a family grave in Sydney somewhere? or he was maybe sent to Northern Suburbs Crematorium. No public index to their records Bye MargM Central Coast List Admin
Hi Polly I sent your enquiry on to Helen as she is doing our land title research for the Pearl Beach Progress Association Heritage Committee. As you know, the Committee aims to collect stories and pictures of Pearl Beach. Apart from Helen's records we have nothing yet on the HEDWELL FAMILY but would welcome any information you might be able to add to our collection. Regards Kay PB Heritage Committee >Hi Polly, >Your message to the Central Coast list was forwarded to me. > >I am in the process of researching ALL owners of land at Pearl Beach >& Patonga from the first grant in 1840 to about the mid 1980's > >The original 4 portions (c. 200 acres) at Pearl Beach were >subdivided into 580 lots in 1925. These were sold off over the next >50+ years. > >James William HEDWELL, Photographer, bought Lots 71, 72, 73 & 74 in 1949 > >Charlotte Mary HEDWELL, Married Woman, bought Lot 98 in 1953 > >We held a Heritage display at Pearl Beach in April and I also had an >inquiry from another person interested in these blocks - was that >you? If not I am happy to put you in touch with them. Not sure if >they are family or not. > >My email address will change on Monday to hjayee@gmail.com so please >use that address to contact me after Monday 6 June. > >I hope this helps > >Best wishes >Helen Dickinson > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Williams" <williams@terrigal.net.au> >To: <Helen DICKINSON:> >Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 11:40 AM >Subject: Fwd: Hedwell family Pearl Beach 1950s > >>>Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:03:02 +1000 >>>From: "the basclains" <thebasclains@smartchat.net.au> >>>To: AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com >>>Subject: Hedwell family Pearl Beach 1950s >>> >>>Researching HEDWELL, James William (Jnr and Snr) who owned blocks >>>of land in Cornelian Road Pearl Beach in the 1950s. >>>Can anyone point me in the direction of what sort of records would >>>have been available in/to Pearl Beach in the 1950s >>>Polly --
Researching HEDWELL, James William (Jnr and Snr) who owned blocks of land in Cornelian Road Pearl Beach in the 1950s. Can anyone point me in the direction of what sort of records would have been available in/to Pearl Beach in the 1950s Much appreciated Polly
Hi Is anyone tracing the Ormiston family who lived in Woy Woy Bay in 1924? I would love to hear from any descendents or anyone with information on where I could find out about this family? many thanks Louise
Dear Listers Some maybe haven't checked this site recently. It is much improved with additional info similar to what you would find on the www2roll.gov.au site http://www.awm.gov.au/database/awm8/index.asp Bye MargM List Admin Sydney, New England, Hunter Valley, Central Coast , Australia lists
>Hi Listers For our next Pearl Beach Heritage Weekend exhibition in April 2006, we are hoping to research the following families who held lease-holdings on 8 five-acre blocks at Pearl Beach. (known locally as "the Farms" We would welcome any information/ contacts with people who can help us with the following individuals or their families: c1932-1950s: Montague, Stanley Rigelsford of Gosford Colin Gray Moore Walter Woods William & Nora Whittaker of Crystal Ave, Pearl Beach Albert Edward Gallard, Springfield, Gosford Lee Wray Newtown A. R. Hicks Stanley Oliver & Doris May Gates Leslie James Gallard Albert Edward Gallard Geoffrey Arnold Rigelsford, Healey St West Gosford Walter Hall Pearl Beach Cyril Roland Barclaire - Eastwood Leslie Francis Wallace - Pearl Beach William John Kane - Pearl Beach Clarence Mallett 12 Gardinia Ave, Lane Cove Catherine Eileen Mallett - Lane Cove, Sivert Raphael & Kathleen Phyllis Roblom Thomas Spruce Roby Aston Leslie Norman & Eileen May Wilde Ellis Thomas Devon C/- Public School, Woy Woy Rosina Garters - Pearl Beach Preston Greenwald Saywell Robin Charles Levik - 60 Harrow Rd, Auburn Minnard Fannie Crommelin - 145 Raglan St, Mosman Herbert Reilly Pearl Beach Frederick Mervyn & Richard Max Boydell - Newcastle & William Guy Broughton Boydell - Newcastle & Aldous Cameron Arnold - Newcastle Herbert Reilly - Pearl Beach Richard Max Boydell - Hamilton Maurice Raymond Keech - Randwick John Walter Cattley - Woy Woy Charles Wesley Mazlin 32 ??? St, Enfield Edward James Berry Patonga Clifton Wesley Mazlin Pearl Beach Thomas Leonard Butler - Linden St Sutherland William Frederick John Dyson - Patonga Beach Gunner Jack Petterson - Pearl Beach RSL members: Alexander Norman Charles As trustees RSL Sub Branch RSS & AIL Aust Donald Ian Conacher As trustees RSL Sub Branch RSS & AIL Aust Arthur John Butler As trustees RSL Sub Branch RSS & AIL Aust Sidney Frederick Armstrong As trustees RSL Sub Branch RSS & AIL Aust NSW Branch R S L Chester Hill and Carramar Sub Branch RSL Also the following firms:Central Coast Realty P/L Reily's Developments P/L Thanks for checking this list. Regards. -- ____________ Kay Williams Pearl Beach NSW AUS 2256 ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. **********************************************************************
Hello again Alison, The following BRIGGS entries are from the Electoral Roll of 1965 for the Commonwealth Div of Robertson (under "The Entrance"): BRIGGS Charles Harry, 51 Lake Ave, Killarney Vale [occupation not listed] BRIGGS Isabella, 11 Trelawney St, Killarney Vale, home duties BRIGS, Marjorie Trenton, 51 Lake Ave, Killarney Vale, home duties BRIGGS, Thomas Arthur, 11 Trelawney St, Killarney Vale, [occupation not listed] BRIGGS, William Frederick, 32 Warrigal St [this street name at The Entrance near Killarney Vale, and at Woy Woy] no occupation. Cheers, Gwen
Hello Alison, Re your posting concerning members of the Briggs family. There was a C H BRIGGS living at 51 Lake Avenue, Killarney Vale in Wyong Shire listed in the 1971 Gosford telephone directory. Also an I H Briggs living at Trelawney St, Killarney Vale. Try the Probate Index for C H Briggs, seeing he was born in 1894. And have you checked the current NSW Electoral Roll for younger members of this family? Not much help, but a little something. Best wishes, Gwen
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Briggs" <avbriggs@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: [ANCC] Briggs > > I'm new to the list and searching for two limbs of the Briggs tree: > > 1. Charles Harry Briggs, born Tasmania in 1894, married Marjorie Trento > Kauff and had one > daughter. They lived on the Central Coast up to the early 1970's. > > 2. Edward Briggs known as Ted, born c.1939, had/has a sister named > Sarah or Sally born later. > They are the nephew and neice of Harry. Their parents were Edward > who died in 1952 and > Phyllis. > > Hi Alison We have films of Creigthons of Gosford funeral records 1909 - 1989 in Gosford Library . These records were indexed by the CC FHS and indexes published on CD. I have a CD of these indexes Are records of 15 x BIGGS but no Charles Hy or Marjorie Bye MargM Central Coast List Admin