Hi all, I have been fascinated to view and read about, each Saturday in the Daily Telegraph, historical photographs submitted by their readers. Many involving the submitter or their family. Today's is about a train accident at Parramatta, very interesting. All before my time and many of them events of which I had not heard. Just as a matter of interest are any of our members submitting any photographs? Ted Bryant

Hi, I thought this may be of interest to anyone with UK ancestors. I have just heard that Ancestry.com are allowing free access to 1901 UK census for the moth of September. Access is available at http://www.searchforancestors.com/free1901census.html Happy hunting. Ted Bryant

Dear Listers I haven't posted this site for quite a while . Thought it about time to do so just to remind you all that there are location errors in the NSW BDMs http://members.ozemail.com.au/~johngrah/nswbdmer.htm You might discount a birth ref allegedly registered in Bowerville when you know the family lived at Braidwood In 1886 200 Kiama births appear as registered in Katoomba So dont take as gospel every thing in print

There are 3 copies listed for sale on the search site of : www.abebooks.com or try http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=dawes%2C+john&y=13&kn=catholic&x=30 Marg F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanette Green" <mattmum@kooee.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 3:35 PM Subject: RE: [ANCC] HOLY CROSS CHURCH AT KINCUMBER SOUTH >I also would be interested in a copy of this book, my grandfather built the > altar and the stations of the cross at the church during the war years > while > his two sons were staying at the orphanage. Jeanette > > -----Original Message----- > From: G Dundon [mailto:gdundon@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: Saturday, 3 September 2005 9:06 AM > To: AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ANCC] HOLY CROSS CHURCH AT KINCUMBER SOUTH > > > Hello Colleen, > > I regret that I am unable to advise you where the John Dawes history of > Holy > Cross Catholic Church "Towards the Future" can be obtained now. I noticed > two separate copies of it listed in Ebay online auctions (Aust) recently, > so > perhaps you could keep an eye on that. Also, try Central Coast > second-hand > bookshops if you are able to do so. > > Perhaps another Lister knows of a spare copy somewhere? > > Regards, > Gwen > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 9/1/2005 > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > Please type surnames only in all caps. Helps them stand out from a > computer > screen > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > Please type surnames only in all caps. Helps them stand out from a > computer screen > >

When my daughter was married there in April 2002 they were still selling copies from the church. Perhaps a call to the Parish office? Otherwise try: http://www.booksandcollectibles.com.au/bsearch.php3?PHPSESSID=3b66b09fc9696a4b56054bd85697c785&bsearch_submit=Search&auth=John+Dawes&title=Towards+the+Future&pub=&sub=&sort_by=author&block_size=50&country=00 Regards Kay X-Message: #1 Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 08:41:09 +1000 From: "Colleen Wells" <colleenhasell@ozemail.com.au> To: AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ANCC] Death of author Hi Gwen, Sorry to hear of Ken's death and although I did not know him personally, I had known of his association with the media. Where can I find a copy of the history the South Kincumber Church ? This bought back memories as a child when I attended the Kincumber school. I first started school aged 4 at Empire Bay in a single class room with about 12 other students and teacher Mr JONES, my parents then transferred us to Kincumber Catholic School with Priest being FATHER CROCK, even though I was so young I still remember the school as it housed many orphans and I often wondered what happened to them, if they found families to live with etc. I then went to St Joseph's East Gosford, but we still attened Kincumber Church for many years. I would love to read this history if still available. Regards Colleen >Hello Colleen, > >I regret that I am unable to advise you where the John Dawes history >of Holy Cross Catholic Church "Towards the Future" can be obtained >now. I noticed two separate copies of it listed in Ebay online >auctions (Aust) recently, so perhaps you could keep an eye on that. >Also, try Central Coast second-hand bookshops if you are able to do >so. > >Perhaps another Lister knows of a spare copy somewhere? > >Regards, >Gwen > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 9/1/2005 > >______________________________ -- Kay Williams Pearl Beach NSW AUS 2256 ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. **********************************************************************

I also would be interested in a copy of this book, my grandfather built the altar and the stations of the cross at the church during the war years while his two sons were staying at the orphanage. Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: G Dundon [mailto:gdundon@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Saturday, 3 September 2005 9:06 AM To: AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ANCC] HOLY CROSS CHURCH AT KINCUMBER SOUTH Hello Colleen, I regret that I am unable to advise you where the John Dawes history of Holy Cross Catholic Church "Towards the Future" can be obtained now. I noticed two separate copies of it listed in Ebay online auctions (Aust) recently, so perhaps you could keep an eye on that. Also, try Central Coast second-hand bookshops if you are able to do so. Perhaps another Lister knows of a spare copy somewhere? Regards, Gwen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 9/1/2005 ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== Please type surnames only in all caps. Helps them stand out from a computer screen

----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Wells" <colleenhasell@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Death of author > > Where can I find a copy of the history the South > > Kincumber Church ? > Hi Colleen A Dee Why book shop has a copy via http://www.booksandcollectibles.com.au/ Just type in authors name Bye MargM Central Coast List Admin

Hello Colleen, I regret that I am unable to advise you where the John Dawes history of Holy Cross Catholic Church "Towards the Future" can be obtained now. I noticed two separate copies of it listed in Ebay online auctions (Aust) recently, so perhaps you could keep an eye on that. Also, try Central Coast second-hand bookshops if you are able to do so. Perhaps another Lister knows of a spare copy somewhere? Regards, Gwen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 9/1/2005

Hi Gwen, Sorry to hear of Ken's death and although I did not know him personally, I had known of his association with the media. Where can I find a copy of the history the South Kincumber Church ? This bought back memories as a child when I attended the Kincumber school. I first started school aged 4 at Empire Bay in a single class room with about 12 other students and teacher Mr JONES, my parents then transferred us to Kincumber Catholic School with Priest being FATHER CROCK, even though I was so young I still remember the school as it housed many orphans and I often wondered what happened to them, if they found families to live with etc. I then went to St Joseph's East Gosford, but we still attened Kincumber Church for many years. I would love to read this history if still available. Regards Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Dundon" <gdundon@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 7:44 PM Subject: [ANCC] Death of author > Hello Listers, > > I was saddened to see Ken Scully's death notice in the "Central Coast > Express Advocate" of Wednesday, 31 August. In the early 1990s, as John Dawes, Ken compiled the histories of Holy Cross Catholic Church at South Kincumber . Gwen Dundon > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 9/1/2005 > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > > Found any bad ancestors recently ? >

Hello Listers, I was saddened to see Ken Scully's death notice in the "Central Coast Express Advocate" of Wednesday, 31 August. Ken was a journalist on the "Gosford Star" newspaper when I came to know him many years ago. He was a former editor of "The Catholic Weekly" in Sydney (in fact, editor of two newspapers and three magazines at various times). Using the pen-name John Dawes, he wrote about events in the islands north of Australia during his army service there in World War Two. He was the author or editor of more than 13 books, and had won poetry prizes, including three for verse plays. In the early 1990s, as John Dawes, Ken compiled the histories of Holy Cross Catholic Church at South Kincumber ("Towards the Future") and St Paul's Anglican Church at Kincumber ("Round About St Paul's"), much of the material having been researched and gathered by committees formed for the purpose. He was a stalwart of the St Vincent de Paul Society, and the Coast Shelter Gosford, of which he was Patron. Kenrick Scully, Knight of the Order of St Sylvester, died at his Bensville home on 28.8.2005. A requiem mass was celebrated at Holy Cross Church on Thursday, September 1. I would like to extend my sincere sympathy to his widow Norma and family. Vale, Ken. Gwen Dundon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 9/1/2005

----- Original Message ----- From: "Elsie Campbell" <lcfamilytree@yahoo.com> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: [ANCC] Hi Leonie I had a couple of hours to kill in Gosford this morning and put it to good use over at the CC FHS > What happened to Gertrude Ellen WAND/CAMPBELL/BEATTIE Dunno ......... She was only 66 come 1945 > ? > > Gertrude Ellen WAND > (1) Married 1901 Irvine Fleming CAMPBELL > (3 boys, Alleyn Irvine 1905 He married a Grace DAWSON , Paddo, 1929 and there are 2 refs in the NAA > record search to an Alleyn CAMPBELL with different middle names but same date of birth ? One service dossier has been digitised ?. No ref to either in the Ryerson indexes > Twins, Hugh Douglas 1913 he stopped the world and jumped off somewhere > James Donald 1913 Possibly died 25 May 1979 ,aged 70 , late of Terrigal, cremated Nth Subs, funeral by Creightons reel #22 . Death notice in SMH 1 Jun 1979 > I.F. Campbell Died June 1915 Gallipoli. > He was the Shire Clerk at Scone ............. > (2) Married 1921 John Arnold BEATTIE @ Gosford > (no known issue) > J A Beattie died Sept 1928 Gosford. > His funeral also by Creightons ..reel 1 buried at Lisarow He also left a will ref # 157548 > What happened to Gertrude Ellen BEATTIE? > Hopefully some else related to James D( if he is the right bloke ? ) might know what ever happened to his mother ? Andrew WAND was a NSW Railways carriage inspector I wondered with there was any connection to the scattering of WANDs around Scone/ Dungog ? Someone is researching these WANDs but they havent updated their email addy on www.huntervalleygenealogy.com Didnt have time to investigate down that path Bye MargM Central Coast List Admin

Hi list, Kylie Buttress from another list has worked extremely hard to create a website for family stories (just uploaded this week) and she is asking people to contribute their own family tales, it would be a great way to commence writing and let others know of your ancestors. As time goes on and more stores are added, the site will become valuable to researches and make interesting reading. As mentioned, it is only in the early stages so you have plenty of time to start writing....... www.buttress.info Regards Colleen

Dear Marg Yes, some of us are still here (even though we are still silent). I send a regular list of URLs to various people and there are two or three who say thank you. It's not really necessary but nice to hear occasionally that all are appreciated. But try this for ego-building (and I know that's not what you are looking for). Recently I won a prize in a Poetry competition for an ABC magazine I subscribe to in Melbourne. I was notified of my win but before I even got my copy of the magazine I got a beautiful little booklet of my poem, hand drawn in lovely calligraphy, from an admirer in Queensland. You can only imagine how excited I was, because in a few days I also got an email from a lady in England, saying how much she'd enjoyed my work. Naturally I replied very quickly and promised to exchange a few details later. Being a bit tied up at the time, my reply was only brief but you can guess how excited I was when the phone rang just as I started to watch The New Inventors. Yes, I missed the whole show, talking to my new acquaintance from England! If you thought Family Historians talked, you should see some of these POETS! Anyhow Marg, keep up the good work. You have lots of appreciative admirers. And here's a thought for some of your tongue-tied fans: It's nice to have good manners And always do things right. Remember Please and Thank You, Good Morning and Good Night. Politeness is important – I learnt that from my mum; She'd say: "If you are naughty I'll smack you on the bum". Frank Cardiff East Gosford. On 29/08/2005, at 3:00 PM, AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 74 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Every one must asleep ? ["MargM" > <genknut@optusnet.com.au>] > #2 Population c 1926 ["MargM" > <genknut@optusnet.com.au>] > #3 [ANCC] [Elsie Campbell > <lcfamilytree@yahoo] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-D, send a message to > > AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-D list administrator, send mail to > AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ______________________________ > > > From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> > Date: 28 August 2005 11:00:38 PM > To: AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Every one must asleep ? > > > Is any one still awake on this mailing list ? > > Its turned into a 'Claytons' list again and people have been > subscribing and > unsubscribing without contributing > > http://www.trinity.wa.edu.au/plduffyrc/subjects/sose/austhist/ > default.htm > > > might stir some action > > Bye > > MargM > Central Coast > List Admin > ______________________________ > > > From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> > Date: 28 August 2005 11:15:56 PM > To: AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Population c 1926 > > > I wondered if anyone knows roughly what the Central Coasts population > was c 1926 ? > > I had a wonder around the Bureau of State site but couldn't find any > data that early. > > > Bye > > > MargM > Central Coast > List Admin > ______________________________ > > > From: Elsie Campbell <lcfamilytree@yahoo.com> > Date: 29 August 2005 10:52:03 AM > To: AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ANCC] > > > What happened to Gertrude Ellen WAND/CAMPBELL/BEATTIE > ? > > Gertrude Ellen WAND > (1) Married 1901 Irvine Fleming CAMPBELL > (3 boys, Alleyn Irvine 1905 > Twins, Hugh Douglas 1913 > James Donald 1913 > I.F. Campbell Died June 1915 Gallipoli. > > (2) Married 1921 John Arnold BEATTIE @ Gosford > (no known issue) > J A Beattie died Sept 1928 Gosford. > > What happened to Gertrude Ellen BEATTIE? > > What happend her boys ? > > > Any help gratefully received. > > Leonie (responding to Marg and her prompt!) > > > > > Researching the CAMPBELL's of Wyoming (& Gosford) & > related families > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >

Have you looked at Gosford City Council's website lately? Go to http://www.gosford.nsw.gov.au/ and check out the Libraries link. Local Studies Librarian at Gosford, Geoffrey Potter, has been arranging for some very interesting items to be made available on the website. These include local photographs, land sub-divisions, and old tourist booklets. Make sure you've got time to browse - there's a lot to see, and plenty to print out for your projects! Cheers, Gwen Dundon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 8/26/2005

----- Original Message ----- From: "MargaretB" <mbergies@kooee.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Population c 1926 >> Hi MargaretB > . >> > 'The cost of brick buildings range from $850 to $1000 per > square, timber from $700 to $750.' > > Boy, let's go back 38 years and build a home. > > Yes with 2005 $s ! I was over at the Central Coast FHS Library last Saturday and one of our members was going thru a film of the Gosford Times newspaper for 1926 and I was doing some looking over her shoulder . I was intrigued by the number of shop ads for the large number of shops . We were wondering what the size of the population might have been to support so many and how did they get the goods to sell ?. Alot of frieght would have come up by rail . Only road access till 1945 was via Wisemans Ferry. So maybe the more bulky freight came up by sea ? Bye MargM Central Coast List Admin

Hi MargM Being involved with the local Historical Centre has opened my eyes to new ways that information can be gained. With regard to the population in the Central Coast area if you happen to find one of the brochures that are tourist related for that time, normally you will find an estimate of population for the area. Example; 1967 Lake Macquarie Guide . printed by Lake Macquarie Shire Council. 'Many of the Shire's population of approximately 108,000 people, although residents of Lake Macquarie, are employed in industrial and commercial undertakings in Newcastle; thus enjoying the advantages of work in an industrial city and the peace and beauty which Nature gives their homes on the lake shores.' 'Belmont... Pleasantly situated on the Pacific Highway and the eastern bank of Lake Macquarie, 4 miles north of Swansea, is the thriving township of Belmont, with a population of 14,000.' 'Cardiff... One of the most thriving centres in Lake Macquarie Sire - both residentially and commercially - is Cardiff, with a population of approximately 20,000 situated on the Main Northern Railway line, 8 miles from Newcastle.' and in a different vein 'The cost of brick buildings range from $850 to $1000 per square, timber from $700 to $750.' Boy, let's go back 38 years and build a home. MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

I wondered if anyone knows roughly what the Central Coasts population was c 1926 ? I had a wonder around the Bureau of State site but couldn't find any data that early. Bye MargM Central Coast List Admin

Is any one still awake on this mailing list ? Its turned into a 'Claytons' list again and people have been subscribing and unsubscribing without contributing http://www.trinity.wa.edu.au/plduffyrc/subjects/sose/austhist/default.htm might stir some action Bye MargM Central Coast List Admin

What happened to Gertrude Ellen WAND/CAMPBELL/BEATTIE ? Gertrude Ellen WAND (1) Married 1901 Irvine Fleming CAMPBELL (3 boys, Alleyn Irvine 1905 Twins, Hugh Douglas 1913 James Donald 1913 I.F. Campbell Died June 1915 Gallipoli. (2) Married 1921 John Arnold BEATTIE @ Gosford (no known issue) J A Beattie died Sept 1928 Gosford. What happened to Gertrude Ellen BEATTIE? What happend her boys ? Any help gratefully received. Leonie (responding to Marg and her prompt!) Researching the CAMPBELL's of Wyoming (& Gosford) & related families __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Forwarded for your info MargM Central Coast List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Auld" <Jonathan.Auld@tizzana.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: [HHHV] Land holders in 1885 > For those listers interested in the local land holders in > 1885, we have just > finished a complete transcription of the "Parliamentary > Return of > Landholders 1885 (Windsor)". This new transcription covers > all land holders > in the Police District of Windsor and covers the following > towns: > > Blacktown, Blackwall, Blue Gum Flat, Bringelly, Brisbane > Water, Castlereagh, > Central Colo, Central McDonald, Cooranbong, Dural, Eastern > Creek, Ebenezer, > Emu, Emu Plains, Faulconbridge, Freemans Reach, Gentlemans > Halt, Gosford, > Greendale, Grose Vale, Kangy Angy, Kincumber, Kurrajong, > Kurrajong Heights, > Lower Hawkesbury, Lower Portland, Luddenham, Mangrove > Creek, Mulgoa, > Mulgrave, North Richmond, Pelican Flats, Penrith, Pitt > Town, Putty, > Richmond, Riverstone, Rooty Hill, Rouse Hill, Sackville > Reach, Seven Hills, > Springwood, St. Albans, St. Mary's, The Valley, Upper > Colo, Wilberforce, > Windsor, Wisemans Ferry, Womberal, Woodford, Woy Woy, > Wyong Creek, > Yarramalong > > The list can be accessed at > http://www.hawkesbury.net.au/lists/1885Landholders.html > and can be searched > by surname, town or name of holding. > > Jonathan Auld > > ================================================================ > Hawkesbury on the NET ~ Cemetery Register: > http://www.hawkesbury.net.au/cemetery/ > Hawkesbury on the NET ~ Church Registers: > http://www.hawkesbury.net.au/church/ > Hawkesbury on the NET ~ Memorials, Monuments & Plaques > Register: > http://www.hawkesbury.net.au/memorial/ > Hawkesbury on the NET ~ Lists Register: > http://www.hawkesbury.net.au/lists/ > ================================================================ > > > ==== AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY Mailing List > ==== > List archives can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your > family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last > 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >