----- Original Message ----- From: "The Giffos" <giffos@hotkey.net.au> To: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au>; <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Old Gosford Hi Judy > Thanks also, Marg for these snippets. I will have to > find time next year to help with this indexing of old > Gosford Times. I was in Gosford Library again this morning and got a few more pages of snippets the Mr SMITH, mentioned below > is my great grandfather, John SMITH, butcher of East > Gosford (from Buckinghamshire) who became the licensee > of the Union Hotel on his second marriage to Mrs Spears I think Majorie is indexing mostly G T BDM notices There are some wonderful stories. I like the court reports ! Bye MargM Central Coast List Admin > > Judy , researching ROGERS, SMITH, CAIN all of East > Gosford > > >> Gosford Times Oct 1905 >> >> >> Entries for the second Union Hotel quoits tournament >> closed with Mr SMITH this evening . Play will commence >> tomorrow afternoon >

Hello Judy, Last night I was browsing through my Kincumber Post Office History - some 4 pages of condensed information obtained many years ago from Van Cremer when he was Historical Officer for Australia Post in Sydney - and noted the name Cain. You probably are aware of this already, but your Mr W.N. Cain of East Gosford gained the contract to carry the once-weekly Gosford-Kincumber mail by horseback in 1881. Don't know how long he had the service, but he suceeded Irvine Coulter, the second holder of the contract who had taken it over from Peter Fagan in 1861. A post office had been established at Kincumber on 1 April 1859 in charge of Henry Hunter Lane whose name is recorded elsewhere as schoolmaster. This was 24 years after the opening of Gosford's first post office. These were not actual buildings, but services housed privately. Kincumber Fair is being held this Saturday, October 29 with plenty of attractions starting from 9 am in the shopping centre environs. The restored Old Post Office house - the former home of Mr and Mrs Manasseh Frost, and finally of their daughter Doris Tincknell and her husband Tom, now both deceased, will be open. It will be the starting place for several history walks during the day. Between them, Manasseh and Doris kept the post office for more than 50 years. Cheers, Gwen ---- Original Message ----- From: "The Giffos" <giffos@hotkey.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Old Gosford > Thanks also, Marg for these snippets. I will have to find time next year > to help with this indexing of old Gosford Times. the Mr SMITH, mentioned > below is my great grandfather, John SMITH, butcher of East Gosford (from > Buckinghamshire) who became the licensee of the Union Hotel on his second > marriage to Mrs Spears > > Judy , researching ROGERS, SMITH, CAIN all of East Gosford > > >> Gosford Times Oct 1905 >> >> >> Entries for the second Union Hotel quoits tournament closed with Mr SMITH >> this evening . Play will commence tomorrow afternoon > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > A problem aired is a problem shared > >

Thanks also, Marg for these snippets. I will have to find time next year to help with this indexing of old Gosford Times. the Mr SMITH, mentioned below is my great grandfather, John SMITH, butcher of East Gosford (from Buckinghamshire) who became the licensee of the Union Hotel on his second marriage to Mrs Spears Judy , researching ROGERS, SMITH, CAIN all of East Gosford > Gosford Times Oct 1905 > > > Entries for the second Union Hotel quoits tournament closed with Mr SMITH > this evening . Play will commence tomorrow afternoon

For Ancestry subscribers I have just heard that the 1851 England is back and can be found on http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8860 Wales is on 8861 Channel Islands on 8862 Isle of Man on 8863 Ted Bryant

----- Original Message ----- From: "G Dundon" <gdundon@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:20 AM Subject: [ANCC] Old Gosford Times snippets: Kincumber to Lloyds Wharf > Marg, I found your old Gosford Times snippet very > interesting regarding work on the Kincumber to Lloyds > Wharf Road, tender from A. Davis. > > I wonder if "Lloyd's" was a misprint in the newspaper > for "Lyde's" as old maps show a road running south from > Kincumber called by this name. Morning Gwen Must be a mis print in the newspaper as I just rechecked and definitely says Lloyds ) ( phew !) Lyde's > Wharf on Cockle Creek opposite St Hubert's Island, was > on the Daniel Egan grant (Portion 98) a property better > known as Merritt's Wharf, now part of Empire Bay. The > owner James F. Merrett (this spelling shows in later > records) referred to his home there as being at "Old > Point". The road or track referred to above followed > more or less for some distance along what is now Empire > Bay Drive. > > Who was Lyde? I cant see any connection ? Not many LYDEs about Were 2 males in the NSW1903 electoral rolls . One a farmer up in Tamworth and the other was a warehouseman living in Beamish St Campsie ?????? bye MargM

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Flynn" <sally.flynn@gonsaigon.com> To: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au>; <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:54 AM Subject: Wyong/Gosford Newspaper > > Hello Marg, > Would The Gosford Times cover weddings, deaths, obits > etc. from Wyong from the 1920's? Hi Sally Depends ....... Some times there are quite lengthy reports ,sometime a couple of lines or no mention In the mid 1930's were alot of more social reports along the lines of : Mr & Mrs Errol MUIR have returned from a 10 days holiday at Medlow Bath, Blue Mountains etc ...........Mr Loftus HARPER of the Commonwealth Bank will leave next week for a 3 weeks holiday in his home town of Laidley Qld ....... Mrs TURNER , having disposed of 'Lynwood' Somersby sailed yesterday afternoon by the 'Port Chalmers' for London All from Gosford Times 27 Aug 1936 You dont want to be on a one hour parking spot nr the Library when you want to look up a specific item ! Incidentally the Central Coast FHS have been indexing some of the earlier Gosford Times newspapers ..... Its not finished yet Bye MargM Central Coast List Admin

Hello Marg, Would The Gosford Times cover weddings, deaths, obits etc. from Wyong from the 1920's? Cheers Sally

----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx@tiscali.co.uk> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:17 AM Subject: [ANCC] help/advice please Hi Susan >I am new to this List but subscribe to others These mailing lists are set up to cover different areas or parts of history . The NSW Central Coast is some 100 kms north of Sydney so no where near Melbourne ! . > > I am trying to find out when the census were taken which > could help me locate > > Frank and Jessie BEECH > 7 Ridgeway ,Flemington,Melbourne W1 > in 1938. Censuses have been taken here roughly ever 10 years but the docs have never been kept after the statistics were culled Even if they had been even in the UK there is a 100 year embargo so you wouldn't be able to view any such record till 2040 ! > If I could locate any information on them which would > lead to finding children etc it would be great. BDM records here are a State function . e.g so Queensland, NSW, Victoria etc all keep their own records BDM Indexes for VIC are on line and you can also download copy of docs http://tinyurl.com/yrs42 There is a death record of a Frank BEECH ,son of Frank & Ann nee BONSOR who d 1968 ref # 22378 Ringwood ( Melbourne suburb) aged 59 Also death of a Jessie BEECH but cant see any connection between this lady and Frank BEECH as she was a alot older > I tried the LDS site with no luck. > It wouldn't be > Any help will be most appreciated. > Suggest you subscribe and repost on AUS-MELBOURNE-L-request@rootsweb.com bye MargM Central Coast List Admin

Marg, I found your old Gosford Times snippet very interesting regarding work on the Kincumber to Lloyds Wharf Road, tender from A. Davis. I wonder if "Lloyd's" was a misprint in the newspaper for "Lyde's" as old maps show a road running south from Kincumber called by this name. Lyde's Wharf on Cockle Creek opposite St Hubert's Island, was on the Daniel Egan grant (Portion 98) a property better known as Merritt's Wharf, now part of Empire Bay. The owner James F. Merrett (this spelling shows in later records) referred to his home there as being at "Old Point". The road or track referred to above followed more or less for some distance along what is now Empire Bay Drive. Who was Lyde? Does anyone know please? Best wishes, Gwen

Hi MargM Many thanks for such a quick reply and the help suggested .I will re subscribe. If I can get any idea about the relative ages of Jessie and Frank will get back to you but many thanks for looking. It is strange how lost you feel when dealing with the system in another country. Best wishes and thanks Sue in LLantrisant Wales UK. ****************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] help/advice please- BEECH info on > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:17 AM > Subject: [ANCC] help/advice please > > > Hi Susan >>I am new to this List but subscribe to others > > These mailing lists are set up to cover different areas > or parts of history . The NSW Central Coast is some 100 > kms north of Sydney so no where near Melbourne ! > > > . >> >> I am trying to find out when the census were taken which >> could help me locate >> >> Frank and Jessie BEECH >> 7 Ridgeway ,Flemington,Melbourne W1 >> in 1938. > > > Censuses have been taken here roughly ever 10 years but > the docs have never been kept after the statistics were > culled > Even if they had been even in the UK there is a 100 year > embargo so you wouldn't be able to view any such record > till > 2040 ! > >> If I could locate any information on them which would >> lead to finding children etc it would be great. > > BDM records here are a State function . e.g so > Queensland, NSW, Victoria etc all keep their own records > > BDM Indexes for VIC are on line and you can also download > copy of docs > > http://tinyurl.com/yrs42 > > There is a death record of a Frank BEECH ,son of Frank & > Ann nee BONSOR who d 1968 ref # 22378 Ringwood ( > Melbourne suburb) aged 59 > > Also death of a Jessie BEECH but cant see any connection > between this lady and Frank BEECH as she was a alot older > >> I tried the LDS site with no luck. >> > > It wouldn't be > > >> Any help will be most appreciated. >> > > > Suggest you subscribe and repost on > AUS-MELBOURNE-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > bye > > MargM > Central Coast > List Admin > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > > Found any bad ancestors recently ? > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/2005 > >

Gosford Times Oct 1905 Lowest tender received at the local Court House on the 16th inst, for work of the Kincumber to Lloyds Wharf Road was from A DAVIS £28.18s.8d Entries for the second Union Hotel quoits tournament closed with Mr SMITH this evening . Play will commence tomorrow afternoon The dates for the Grand Fancy Dress Fair , in connection to the opening of the new Christ Church building have been fixed for Dec 15 & 16 MargM Central Coast List Admin

Does anyone know anything of these families? Maurice QUAN married Ellen AHEARN 1842 East Gosford (R.C) At least two children of this marriage 1. Peter William QUAN 1842 2. Mary QUANE 1850. Father Maurice was a labourer living in Gosford. Maurice died in Scone NSW as did his daughter Mary who married Henry Uriah Palmer 1870 Scone. Mary died 17 Jan 1917. Henry Uriah died 2 Oct 1933 in Scone. I'd like to find out more about the QUAN & AHEARN beginnings on the Central Coast if anybody knows these families. David Wyoming NSW

I am new to this List but subscribe to others. I am trying to find out when the census were taken which could help me locate Frank and Jessie BEECH Resident 7 Ridgeway ,Flemington,Melbourne W1 in 1938. They came from England possibly born Ilford Essex England If I could locate any information on them which would lead to finding children etc it would be great. I tried the LDS site with no luck. Any help will be most appreciated. Regards, Sue in LLantrisant Wales UK Glam List

Transcription Agents have been given approval to transcribe events in line with the release of the new NSW Index. Deaths are to 1974 and Marriage to 1954, Births remain at 1905 Regards Allan Murrin ============================ JOY MURRIN FAMILY HISTORY SERVICES ABN 17 948 055 643 <http://www.joymurrin.com.au> www.joymurrin.com.au PO Box 278 Oatley NSW 2223

Hi MargM, Gwen & Listers, I believe that the original stone Christ Church, East Gosford was erected by Robert Creighton. [Source of information: Geoff Potter, Local Studies Librarian, Gosford City Library]. Robert Creighton arrived in the Colony of NSW in 1842 from Ireland, with his wife and four children, William, Elizabeth, Margaret and Robert. I am descended from his eldest son, William Creighton. I don't know when the original church was built. Best wishes Wendy McKenzie

----- Original Message ----- From: "G Dundon" <gdundon@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: [ANCC] Gosford News from 100 years ago - Christ Church Hi Gwen > Re that item from the Gosford Times of 20 October 1905 > as under: > This of course referred to old stone Christ Church which > originally stood on the south-western corner of George > and Webb Streets at East Gosford. In 1905 it was moved > stone by stone to its present site which is next to the > units at No. 1 Mann Street. It was recently restored > and renamed "St Mary's". > > In those days it was common for people to refer to > Gosford Proper as "West Gosford" - this is often seen in > old Gosford newspaper reports, and can often be > misleading and puzzling for readers. > It got me in ! I had forgotten that . When I read it I immediatly thought of present day west Gosford shopping centre and the beginning of Brisbane Water Drive and thought OK where so is the church ? ..... Its still in a picturesque setting Bye MargM Central Coast List Admin

Dear Marg, Re that item from the Gosford Times of 20 October 1905 as under: " Good progress is being made with the re-erection of the old Church of England building on the West Gosford site. The addition [of] the old/new structure will be quite an adornment to the picturesque church grounds". This of course referred to old stone Christ Church which originally stood on the south-western corner of George and Webb Streets at East Gosford. In 1905 it was moved stone by stone to its present site which is next to the units at No. 1 Mann Street. It was recently restored and renamed "St Mary's". In those days it was common for people to refer to Gosford Proper as "West Gosford" - this is often seen in old Gosford newspaper reports, and can often be misleading and puzzling for readers. Best regards, Gwen

Gosford Times Friday 20 Oct 1905 The woman question A curious phrase of 'the woman question' has cropped up . What is to be done with women who interrupt public meetings ? Mr Deakin at a recent immigration meeting was persistently interrupted by two or three of these disturbers, who had apparently made up their minds to combat any favourable illusion to immigration . The chairman reminded them that admission was by ticket, and that interruption could not be allowed. Finally he threatened them with expulsion Later an official attempted to remove one of then from the hall. there was at once a 'scene' The chivalry of the meeting protested , and the fair or unfair disturber was left unmolested . Now, a female interrupter is as fatal to the success of a meeting as a male . The latter is usually amenable to the sarcasm or ridicule which public speakers keep on tap for such occasions. If this is ineffective he can be 'fired out' without ceremony . But women, as a rule, have no sense of humour and it appears they cant be 'fired out' Unless some way is discovered out of this difficulty public meetings will be best by a new terror (Were no names so dont know who these interrupters were ....... !) Good progress is being made with the re erection of the old Church of England building on the West Gosford site. The additions the old/new structure will be quite an adornment to the picturesque church grounds For painless extraction of aching teeth go to R VERVON, Dentist, Gosford MargM Central Coast List Admin

Searching for decedents of Mathew M NEILSON and Ella Pearl CRUNDWELL. Irene Neilson New Zealand.

10 Oct 1905 At Gosford Police court on Friday last,before Mr LACEY, PM and MessersR F PICKERING & M WARD , J's P, Stanley LATTA , for stealing 24 doz empty bottles , valued at 11 shillingd. property of Pasquale VENTURA , was fined 20/6 , 6s court cost and £2.13.00 witnesses expenses , in default 7 days Mr Thomas OCONNOR announces that he has decided to start up business in Gosford as a monumental mason The s.s Erina will run an excursion trips to Wagstaff on 29 Oct , leaving Gosford Wharf at 10 am and 2 pm MargM Central Coast List Admin