I keep thinking of the Central Coast as being "the Coast" and not the inland areas of Mangrove...Wollombi etc....that is why I didn't make an earlier post re these family members of mine. But Marg assures me "The parish of Brisbane Water cover by the Rev Glennie in the 1850s was a huge area from north bank of the Hawkesbury to Dora Creek on Lake Macquarie. Thats a good hours drive on the F3 today" So who am I to argue ??..... and be tagged a fencesitter !!!! My earliest ancestors into the Central Coast "Region" are ; Ggggrandfather Richard WOODBURY SNR (convict per "Fortune" 1806) and his wife Sarah EVERINGHAM ( d/o Mathew EVERINGHAM convict per "Scarborough" 1788) who had a grant at Mangrove Creek in 1825 but didn't live on it, moving there about 1830.......his son and my ggguncle Richard WOODBURY JNR and wife Jane (NEAL....my ggghalf aunt from another line) moved onto it (and called it "Cherry Hill") in 1828/9, about the same time as did gggrandfather Richard ELLEM convict per "Isabella" 1818 who settled there 1829/30 with his wife Charlotte (NEAL nee HUXLEY ....mother of Jane Woodbury and d/o Ann FORBES convict per "Prince of Wales" 1788 and Thomas JONES/HUXLEY convict per "Salamander" 1791) Also some of ggggrandmother Sarah Woodbury nee Everingham's brothers George & James EVERINGHAM were there or selected by 1825/26 along with ggggrandfather Joseph CRAFT convict per "Albermarle" 1791 and his wife Sarah PEAULET (nee ROBINSON) convict per "Earl Corwallis" 1801, the parents of William CRAFT who married Rebecca WOODBURY (d/o above mentioned Richard Woodbury SNR). William & Rebecca's daughter Agnes CRAFT married Samuel Henry ELLEM (youngest s/o above mentioned Richard and Charlotte ELLEM and half brother to the above mentioned Jane NEAL wife of Richard WOODBURY JNR) ........... and moved north to settle on the Orara River (Clarence River Region) Cheers Lynne Visit our Website http://lynneandgrayeme.kinpendium.com/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/266 - Release Date: 21/02/2006
My earliest Central Coast Ancestors were James and Charlotte Coulson who were married in Maitland in 1840. James was born in Lancashire in 1814 and Charlotte in England in 1821 the daughter of Thomas Coulson the Quartermaster of the 3rd Regiment. They moved to Wyong and then Gosford and had 8 children, two buried at Point Frederick. James was a JP and a Magistrate at Gosford and is mentioned many times in Rev Glennies Journals and owned property at East Gosford. He apparently went broke and moved to Stroud where he became a school teacher and Charlotte died in 1869 in Stroud. James was still in Stroud in 1871 but died as a pauper in Maitland in 1886 and is buried in an unmarked grave. I would love to know the full story of his life and death. ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` Jenny McCarthy Brightwaters N.S.W. on beautiful Lake Macquarie
Hi List The gang was joined by a fourth man named Robert Chitty,[1] who was one of Mr. Chapman's assigned men.[2] Robert Chitty was a convict who was transported to NSW for fourteen years aboard the ship Sophia (Sofia) in 1823. He was born in Windsor, England in 1804 and was tried for desertion from the army in Dublin, Ireland in 1823. He was described as a soldier and pit sawyer, five feet four and a half inches tall, ruddy and freckled complexion, light brown hair, hazel eyes, red marks GSRC and an anchor on the right arm and several red marks on the left arm. Chitty was a convict constable in the Brisbane Water district in 1835. He was stationed at the property "Cabbage Tree," which was at the site of present day Norah Head, and later he was appointed as scourger (flogger) at East Gosford, but in the latter half of 1835 he was accused of negligence when he was overpowered by the bushranger, Macdonald, who he was taking as a prisoner to the house of the local Police Magistrate,! Jonathon Warner. Towards the end of 1835 Chitty was transferred to the district of Dungog. He was reported to have absconded from his position on the 29th December, 1835, with a female prisoner named Elizabeth Walsh, whom he was escorting to Newcastle Gaol. By 1840 he was an assigned convict working for Matthew Chapman. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] NSW Government Gazette 9/12/1840 p. 1341 [2] Sydney Herald 10/12/1840 MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia
Hello Margaret, thanks. I am interested in Soloman Reuben, who associated with the gang in Sydney and committed robberies at Parramatta and possibly the Windsor area. He died in 1845 and may never have 'worked' with the gang in the Hunter. I don't know if the Flashmen and the Jew Boy Gang shared membership, but from readings they appear to have some connections. I am not well-informes about these people at all, so may be making some wrong assumptions. On the State records site 'Registry of Flashmen' 1842 the following is mentioned: "Parish Joe, was a Prize fighter in England & was transported. On the 27 Sept [1842] there was a meeting of the fancy at G. Green's, George Street. Davis Parish Jno Jacobs Nat Jacobs Mic Farrell Jas. Tallent Barnett Sol. Reubens Francis Cohen Dearing Groves Abraham Davis. '' Regards Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargaretB" <mbergies@kooee.com.au> To: "ian" <iandwmckenzie@optusnet.com.au>; <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Who was your earliest Central Coast ancestor ? > Hi Wendy and David > > The book "Organised Banditti" is available at the Lake Macquarie & > District Historical Society, P.O. Box 239, TORONTO, NSW, 2283. > Telephone 0249 598063 Sunday or Wednesday Afternoons. > > Alternatively, I have some of the information on disk, if you tell me who > you are interested in I may be able to find it for you. > > If I get permission from the list owner and the Author I will post a list > of the names mentioned in the book. > > MargaretB > Lake Macquarie > NSW Australia > > A snippet from the book. > The trial of the six bushrangers took place on the 24th February 1841 at > the Supreme Court in Sydney. > > The following article appeared in the SYDNEY HERALD ON 23rd February 1841; > > The Hunter's River Bushrangers. - These desperadoes will be tried > to-morrow. It is expected that this trial will be one of considerable > interest, as Davis the leader of the gang is said to have given > information as to the parties who harboured him and the rest of his gang. > Several persons have already been apprehended on the information thus > given. The greatest scoundrel of a gang generally manages to slip his neck > out of the halter.[1] > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [1] Sydney Herald, 23/2/1841 > >
Hi Wendy and David The book "Organised Banditti" is available at the Lake Macquarie & District Historical Society, P.O. Box 239, TORONTO, NSW, 2283. Telephone 0249 598063 Sunday or Wednesday Afternoons. Alternatively, I have some of the information on disk, if you tell me who you are interested in I may be able to find it for you. If I get permission from the list owner and the Author I will post a list of the names mentioned in the book. MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia A snippet from the book. The trial of the six bushrangers took place on the 24th February 1841 at the Supreme Court in Sydney. The following article appeared in the SYDNEY HERALD ON 23rd February 1841; The Hunter's River Bushrangers. - These desperadoes will be tried to-morrow. It is expected that this trial will be one of considerable interest, as Davis the leader of the gang is said to have given information as to the parties who harboured him and the rest of his gang. Several persons have already been apprehended on the information thus given. The greatest scoundrel of a gang generally manages to slip his neck out of the halter.[1] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Sydney Herald, 23/2/1841
Thank you Marg, Yes I knew the Point Frederick project was complete, but thought Pam was looking at further work in the reserve. I will email the Wyong FHG and see what they think. Many thanks Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> To: "Colleen Wells" <colleenhasell@ozemail.com.au>; <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Fw: Gosford Times snippet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colleen Wells" <colleenhasell@ozemail.com.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:03 AM > Subject: Re: [ANCC] Fw: Gosford Times snippet > > > Hi Colleen >> >> Not sure if Council would be interested in providing funds for such >> projects. >> > > Pt Frederick Pioneers Park is in Gosford City Council and the work was > done c 1970 by this Council > > Jilliby is in Wyong Shire > >> I sometimes wonder if it is worth asking Council to maintain "on >> occasions" the large family plot of >> ALBERT HAMLYN WARNER at the Jilliby Cemetery, I have cleaned it up a >> couple of times in the past, but for a man who owned the entire Wyong >> Shire and guided Council in planning the future development of the region >> back in 1917, I would expect a 6 monthly clean up or initial revamp of >> the plot (maintenance free) wouldn't hurt the bank. > > >> The family plot contains Albert, his wife Mary (nee Boyce) who was the >> daughter of HANNAH PALMER from the Palmer family of Yarramalong (early >> pioneers), also their daughters Ethel and Eliza Hunt, wife of Frances >> Hunt. >>> >> Any thoughts on this ??? > > > Maybe take it up with the Wyong FHG ? > > I understand they have finished their Palmdale project > > Or the Wyong History Soc > > bye > > > MargM > Central Coast > List Admin
Thankyou very much Joanne, I'll have a look at the sites, Regards Wendy McKenzie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne and Ron Flack" <bell.bird@bigpond.com> To: "ian" <iandwmckenzie@optusnet.com.au>; <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Who was your earliest Central Coast ancestor ? > Hello Wendy > > Found a lot of information on Jennifer Willett's Webpage:
Hi Wendy, Joanne and others listers, What great stories and family records, will have to keep a file on all the families mentioned. Regarding the FLACK family, I have the following and wonder if you can verify this for me. JOHN SHARPE married ANNIE McCabe in Sydney, they had a daughter ELIZA born in Paddington, ANNIE married WILLIAM FLACK in MUDGEE 1872. I have some records on the SHARPE family and wonder if this is the same line ? THOMAS SHARPE arrived in NSW 1839 per Susan, a few years later he married another passenger of the ship, her name was SARAH PETERS who arrived in NSW with a few brothers, the Peters and Sharpe families spread thought-out NSW and VIC, but the Sharpe family stayed mainly in the Menangle & Camden regions, do you have any details on William or if I have the correct line of Sharpe ? Thank you Colleen Eliza Sharpe daughter of John and Annie Sharpe married William Flack in Mudgee 1872 ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian" <iandwmckenzie@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Who was your earliest Central Coast ancestor ? > Hello MargM and Everyone, > this latest thread is very interesting. I thought there would be quite a > few people on the list with pioneer ancestors much earlier than mine so I > wasn't going to mention them. However as mine are from 1841 and 1846, I > guess they deserve a mention. > > Robert Creighton and his wife [Eliza Ann Dunlop] arrived in Sydney Cove > on 19 Feb 1839 per 'Jessie', with four of their children, as free > settlers. After staying in Sydney for awhile, they moved to Gosford. By > the time of the 1841 Census, Robert Creighton was living in Russell > Street, East Gosford. Robert Creighton is my gt. gt. gt. grandfather. > > John Cockcroft was a convict who arrived in Sydney Cove per 'Westmoreland' > on 15 July 1835 . He was born in 1810. In 1846 he was in the Gosford > district and he applied to marry Jane Ann Turner, aged 21yrs. I don't have > information on John Cockcroft's TOL, so I don't know when he first moved > [or was sent] to the Central Coast. Jane Ann was the eldest daughter of my > Gt. Gt. Gt. grandmother, Margaret Bates, and her first husband, William > Turner. > > Best wishes > Wendy McKenzie > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > For other AUS mailing lists check out: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS >
Hello David I have written a short history of Wyee and found the Freeman name pop up quite a few times: "The small cemetery at Wyee is the resting place of many of the early pioneers - the Boyds, Deaves, Freemans, Hodges, Jury, Underwoods and Toepfers, amongst many others. The earliest grave is Baby Anthony Underwood 5.12.1890 (Source:Hunter Valley Genealogy, Wyee General Cemetery.) James Freeman, son of James Freeman Snr. is buried there. He died at Wyee on 24 October 1910, aged 75 years, and is buried next to his wife Soreina who died 18 December 1928, aged 88 years. Many of the Freeman family have their resting place there." Regards Joanne Wyee ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Armstrong" <David.Armstrong@Sun.COM> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Who was your earliest Central Coast ancestor ? > Hi all, > > I have a James FREEMAN who was a convict transported on the Lord Eldon > in 1817. He was a rough diamond and in 1818 was sent to Newcastle for 2 > years > for being insolent to his overseer. He apparently disliked working on the > lime > burners gang and attempted to escape with some others. He got 50 lashes > for that. Back in Sydney he was assigned to Ellen MacIntosh, wife of a > band >
Hello Wendy Found a lot of information on Jennifer Willett's Webpage: at http://www.jenwilletts.com/index.htm For the Jew Boy Gang http://www.jenwilletts.com/jewboygang.htm Regards Joanne Wyee ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian" <iandwmckenzie@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Who was your earliest Central Coast ancestor ? > What an interesting story, David, > I was just thinking of asking if you had any more information on the Jew > Boys Gang, when you mentioned the book. I believe I have some tenuous > family connections to some of the members of this gang, but am still
What an interesting story, David, I was just thinking of asking if you had any more information on the Jew Boys Gang, when you mentioned the book. I believe I have some tenuous family connections to some of the members of this gang, but am still researching. I must say that the way convicts were treated in those days, would bring out an insolent streak in a lot of men. It would have been terrible to have to work with lime-burning. I'm not a local so could you please explain where Cabbage Tree is? Do you have more on the obituary of Mary Freeman who died in 1891? I think you may be leading the earliest ancestor contest, at this stage! Regards Wendy McKenzie ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Armstrong" <David.Armstrong@Sun.COM> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Who was your earliest Central Coast ancestor ? > Hi all, > > I have a James FREEMAN who was a convict transported on the Lord Eldon > in 1817. He was a rough diamond and in 1818 was sent to Newcastle for 2 > years > for being insolent to his overseer. He apparently disliked working on the > lime > burners gang and attempted to escape with some others.
Hi all, I have a James FREEMAN who was a convict transported on the Lord Eldon in 1817. He was a rough diamond and in 1818 was sent to Newcastle for 2 years for being insolent to his overseer. He apparently disliked working on the lime burners gang and attempted to escape with some others. He got 50 lashes for that. Back in Sydney he was assigned to Ellen MacIntosh, wife of a band master with one of the regiments. In the mid 1820's he was assigned to Robert Henderson and ran Henderson's dairy at Cabbage Tree. The 1828 census shows James Freeman as assigned to Henderson and residing at Brisbane Water. In 1831 he married another assignee to Henderson, Mary Ann SMITH, who was transported on the Kains in 1830. They had 5 or 6 children, including James jnr who established a bullock run hauling timber from the Cooranbong area and Watagans. Freeman's Drive and Freeman's Waterhole are named after him. James & Mary Freeman resided at Cabbage Tree for 20 years or more and are frequently mentioned in the Brisbane Water Bench Books, and in Rev Alfred Glennie's diaries. James snr also evidently led Police to a hut near Reids Mistake used by the Jew Boys bushranger gang in 1840. The Freemans had the pleasure of hosting an overnight stay by the gang at Cabbage Tree, as recalled in the obituary of Mary Freeman in the Newcastle Herald in 1891. James snr died in 1871 at Gladesville Hospital suffering dementia and other illnesses. He was sent there from Maitland after having wandered off into the Watagans and being rescued. By the way, there is a fabulous book called "An Organised Banditti" which tells the story of the Jew Boy Gang and sets it in the social context of the day. If you are interested in gaining a much deeper understanding of rural life in the 1840 era and the relationship between the settlers and the convict class I'd strongly recommend it. I bought it from the Wyong District Historical Society at the Henry Kendall Museum for $25. It's a great read and exceptionally well researched. cheers, David
Our ancestors were late comers - John and Mary Flack who were in the Gosford area around 1859 They arrived from Bottisham, Cambridgeshire on the Castilian 1858 with 8 children. One son had arrived the previous year. "29 August 1861 The Bench was advised by the Colonial Architect that repairs to the Courthouse Roof were to be carried out by John Flack for the sum of Four pounds. (Source: Swancott, Charles, The Brisbane Waters Story Part 1: Gosford and the Henry Kendall Country, published 1953 Second Edition 1966 Call no 991.330-33 p74)" One of John's daughters Ann died at Gosford in 1859 (b1858 Raymond Terrace). Another, Sarah married Samuel Brooks in 1864 in Brisbane Waters and they had a daughter Elizabeth born 1865 in Gosford, Fanny born 1867 in Brisbane Waters and Samuel born 1869 in Gosford. The next child was born in Gulgong in 1871 when it seems all the Flack families left for Mudgee. John then had a blacksmith, carriage maker and undertaking business in Mudgee and Lithgow. Did any Flacks remain in the area?? Have been promising myself to obtain their certificates but have been so busy on other twigs and branches. But you have rekindled my interest abd hve ordered all the Brisbane Waters Certificates today. Regards Joanne
Hello MargM and Everyone, this latest thread is very interesting. I thought there would be quite a few people on the list with pioneer ancestors much earlier than mine so I wasn't going to mention them. However as mine are from 1841 and 1846, I guess they deserve a mention. Robert Creighton and his wife [Eliza Ann Dunlop] arrived in Sydney Cove on 19 Feb 1839 per 'Jessie', with four of their children, as free settlers. After staying in Sydney for awhile, they moved to Gosford. By the time of the 1841 Census, Robert Creighton was living in Russell Street, East Gosford. Robert Creighton is my gt. gt. gt. grandfather. John Cockcroft was a convict who arrived in Sydney Cove per 'Westmoreland' on 15 July 1835 . He was born in 1810. In 1846 he was in the Gosford district and he applied to marry Jane Ann Turner, aged 21yrs. I don't have information on John Cockcroft's TOL, so I don't know when he first moved [or was sent] to the Central Coast. Jane Ann was the eldest daughter of my Gt. Gt. Gt. grandmother, Margaret Bates, and her first husband, William Turner. Best wishes Wendy McKenzie
----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Wells" <colleenhasell@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Fw: Gosford Times snippet Hi Colleen > > Not sure if Council would be interested in providing > funds for such projects. > Pt Frederick Pioneers Park is in Gosford City Council and the work was done c 1970 by this Council Jilliby is in Wyong Shire > I sometimes wonder if it is worth asking Council to > maintain "on occasions" the large family plot of > ALBERT HAMLYN WARNER at the Jilliby Cemetery, I have > cleaned it up a couple of times in the past, but for a > man who owned the entire Wyong Shire and guided Council > in planning the future development of the region back in > 1917, I would expect a 6 monthly clean up or initial > revamp of the plot (maintenance free) wouldn't hurt the > bank. > The family plot contains Albert, his wife Mary (nee > Boyce) who was the daughter of HANNAH PALMER from the > Palmer family of Yarramalong (early pioneers), also > their daughters Ethel and Eliza Hunt, wife of Frances > Hunt. >> > Any thoughts on this ??? Maybe take it up with the Wyong FHG ? I understand they have finished their Palmdale project Or the Wyong History Soc bye MargM Central Coast List Admin
Hi Pam, Not sure if Council would be interested in providing funds for such projects. I sometimes wonder if it is worth asking Council to maintain "on occasions" the large family plot of ALBERT HAMLYN WARNER at the Jilliby Cemetery, I have cleaned it up a couple of times in the past, but for a man who owned the entire Wyong Shire and guided Council in planning the future development of the region back in 1917, I would expect a 6 monthly clean up or initial revamp of the plot (maintenance free) wouldn't hurt the bank. The family plot contains Albert, his wife Mary (nee Boyce) who was the daughter of HANNAH PALMER from the Palmer family of Yarramalong (early pioneers), also their daughters Ethel and Eliza Hunt, wife of Frances Hunt. Eliza and Frances had a son Levitt Hunt and Levitt Street in Wyong is named after him, actually Warner named most of the original streets in the Wyong Shire, BOYCE AVE, RENRAW (Warner spelt backwards), WARNER AVE, POLLOCK AVE, (named after his close friend Mr Pollock) and also many of the streets in Warnervale which he named after the American States his son visited while studying at Uni in the US, Minnesota, Louisiana, etc. Warner also built shops in the main Street of Wyong and had his staff maintain the gardens at the Wyong Railway at no cost to Council, he also donated the first Ambulance to Yarramalong and land to the local community for the building of churches, I think it is about time Council returned the favour. Any thoughts on this ??? Regards Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "pam clarke" <pamclarke@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Fw: Gosford Times snippet > Perhaps the Point Frederick Cemetery could be made a Rest Park ? > similiar > to St Thomas' in North Sydney. I have ancestors there and sometimes visit > with my picnic lunch, sit in the shade and 'talk' > > Should we lobby the Council ?? > > PamC (nee COULTER) > Blue Mtns, NSW. Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Giffos" <giffos@hotkey.net.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 5:55 PM > Subject: [ANCC] Fw: Gosford Times snippet > > > > Resending to the list > > Judy > > > > > And they did- a joint project of the council and service clubs such > as > > > Apex- opened in mid 70's. When I was a girl growing up in the next > street > > > in the mid 50's, it was wilderness of lantana etc. Now it is a great > > > passive recreation area and people often get married there or have > their > > > photos taken. > > > > > > I 'visit' my relatives there regularly! > > > > > > Judy Gifford > > > > > > researching ROGERS SMITH CAIN all from East Gosford and members > of > the > > > latter 2 families are buried there and still have surviving > headstones, > > > rather a miracle > > > > > > > > > > > >> Gosford Times Feb 21 1964 ) > > >> > > >> There is wide spread support throughout the district for > improvements > to > > >> be made to Point Frederick Cemetery > > >> > > >> It could be turned into a park for solitude and also as a vantage > point > > >> to watch aquatic sports > > >> > > >> A tidy fence could be erected at the end of Albany St where the > cemetery > > >> starts > > >> > > >> At present cars can drive over the graves of district pioneers > without > > >> motorists realising the fact > > >> > > >> TA SCOTT, after whom Tascott was named has a a well formed path > > >> wondering thru his grave. The only indication of his resting place > is > a > > >> weathered headstone poking out of the scrub > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > > > > Found any bad ancestors recently ? > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > For other AUS mailing lists check out: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS >
Judy, I have Samuel COULTER (convict) who married Rachel WILSON (convict) in 1841 in Brisbane Water. Some of Samuel and Rachel's sons went on to be shipbuilders, a daughter owned a guesthouse. PamC (nee COULTER) Blue Mtns, NSW. Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Giffos" <giffos@hotkey.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: [ANCC] Who was your earliest Central Coast ancestor ? > Marg tells me I sent this to her only and not the list > > > > My John Smith is 1855/56 but there will be many who will doubtless beat > > me. He was a butcher from Oving in Bucks > > > > From my position here at the computer in beautiful Green Point I can see > > across the water to the land he once owned! > > > > Judy , again! > > > >> Dear Listers > >> > >> This area of NSW was starting to be inhabited by the early 1830s . I > >> wondered which of you silent subscribers can claim their ancestor as > >> the earliest settler/convict ??? > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > For other AUS mailing lists check out: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS >
Perhaps the Point Frederick Cemetery could be made a Rest Park ? similiar to St Thomas' in North Sydney. I have ancestors there and sometimes visit with my picnic lunch, sit in the shade and 'talk' Should we lobby the Council ?? PamC (nee COULTER) Blue Mtns, NSW. Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Giffos" <giffos@hotkey.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: [ANCC] Fw: Gosford Times snippet > Resending to the list > Judy > > > And they did- a joint project of the council and service clubs such as > > Apex- opened in mid 70's. When I was a girl growing up in the next street > > in the mid 50's, it was wilderness of lantana etc. Now it is a great > > passive recreation area and people often get married there or have their > > photos taken. > > > > I 'visit' my relatives there regularly! > > > > Judy Gifford > > > > researching ROGERS SMITH CAIN all from East Gosford and members of the > > latter 2 families are buried there and still have surviving headstones, > > rather a miracle > > > > > > > >> Gosford Times Feb 21 1964 ) > >> > >> There is wide spread support throughout the district for improvements to > >> be made to Point Frederick Cemetery > >> > >> It could be turned into a park for solitude and also as a vantage point > >> to watch aquatic sports > >> > >> A tidy fence could be erected at the end of Albany St where the cemetery > >> starts > >> > >> At present cars can drive over the graves of district pioneers without > >> motorists realising the fact > >> > >> TA SCOTT, after whom Tascott was named has a a well formed path > >> wondering thru his grave. The only indication of his resting place is a > >> weathered headstone poking out of the scrub > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST Mailing List ==== > > Found any bad ancestors recently ? >
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Vinson" <kav.015@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:02 AM Subject: [ANCC] Who was your earliest Central Coast Ancestor? . > Thomas and Ebenezer were both involved in the logging > industry. > Hi Kay Are several refs to Ebenezer JONES in the Central Coast bench books and to a few others JONES MargM Central Coast List Admin
----- Original Message ----- From: "pam clarke" <pamclarke@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [ANCC] Fw: Gosford Times snippet > Perhaps the Point Frederick Cemetery could be made a > Rest Park ? similiar > to St Thomas' in North Sydney. I have ancestors there > and sometimes visit > with my picnic lunch, sit in the shade and 'talk' > > Should we lobby the Council ?? Hi Pam ......... Way too late ........ This was done and was fixed a long time ago ........ This was a snippet from a 1964 Gosford Times. A problem was that alot of the headstones were moved so no longer mark the actual grave sites. Pt Frederick is the suburb of Central Coast suburbs and we are probably lucky that the oldies choose this site for a cemetery as had they not it would have a few McMansions at this pointy end instead of lots of shady trees and nice water views thru the said trees for everyone to enjoy Bye MargM Central Coast List Admin