Hi, I have just found out that my uncle had an aunty whose surname was MC NAMARA. I am hoping that some information on her will help me out of this rut I am in with my REYNOLDS'. This is what I know about my grandfather REYNOLDS, Albert George b. Forbes, Nsw (birth wasn't registered) married in Forbes, Nsw 1908 CARNEY, Mary Louisa b. Forbes, Nsw 5 June 1887. Alberts parents were REYNOLDS, John William and PRITCHARD, Mary. I can't find a birth or marriage for them in Nsw although on Albert's marriage certificate it states that John and Mary were from Forbes, Nsw and he was a bootmaker. I found a CARNEY that married a MC NAMARA in 1926 which could be my grandmothers (Mary Louisa) brother's (CARNEY, Joseph Scott James) daughter ?(Grace T) but the records are to recent to look-up. I found a few REYNOLDS' that did so all I need to do now is find the right one. I want to find out if my grandfather had any siblings, aunts and uncles. Another problem with tracking down my family is they change (not legally) their name to REARDON. I can't find any REYNOLDS or CARNEY that are related to the REARDONS so I don't know why that name chosen. My aunty Nora (nee CHICKEN wife of REYNOLDS, Rex Carney) said that his MC NAMARA aunty was living in St. George, Qld around the 50's and 60's. Hope someone can help me with this MC NAMARA line. Hopefully Sheryl Reardon

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Dear DPSers Next get together will be this Sunday afternoon 8 Oct at about 1.30. At the Library of the Central Coast FHS , Old Broadwater Hotel, Mann St GOSFORD( nr the Gosford Council HQ) If you remember, please bring a small plate for afternoon tea All welcome. bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

----- > In the Electoral Rolls for 1932-1934, Edward Peter MUTTON is listed at > Ourimba creek, living with his wife Florence Mary (May) MUTTON. > > Peter died in 1934 (BDM 1934/20908 regd Gosford). He was buried at Point > Clare Cemetery on 19 Nov 1934, section 1 RC. Hi Fred I checked Creightons funeral directors records indexes on the off chance that he was dispatched by them . He was & is only MUTTON in these records. I wasnt able to get further info today as 2 of our film readers were down for the count and 2 were being used solidly . We have films of Creightons records which tell who paid and who much etc Were did he come from ? Bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

Hi, first post here. I'm Brent from Wyoming. I'm researching the Horsfield name, its not very common in Australia. Although my Horsfields appear to be mainly from the Sofala region of NSW, I was just wondering if anyone knows the reason behind the naming of Horsfield Bay west of Woy Woy. I've noticed in the White Pages for the CC a couple of Horsfield households but not at Horsfield Bay. Brent Richards Researching: BAKER; BERKELEY; EDNEY; GRISMOND; HORSFIELD; LAWLER; MCGARRY NUNMAN; POVEY; QUARMAN; RENNIE; RIDGEWAY; RILEY; SHILCOTT

Just in case there is anyone out there who believes implicitly in the accuracy of death certificate information, beware! In the last couple of days I have been looking at death certificates pertaining to my family. First is one issued in Melbourne in 1939 which states that the deceased had spent 25 years in Victoria and 40 years in Western Australia. WRONG! Maybe four years in WA and longer than 25 in Vic. Second is one issued on the death of my father-in-law in Gosford in 1969, and which I did not sight for many years afterward. On this certificate it shows that he died at a certain nursing home in Gosford (it was at Wyoming); that he was cremated at Northern Suburbs Crematorium (it was Palmdale, Ourimbah), and that a minister with an unfamiliar name officiated. When my own mother died in October last year, I was horrified when the death certificate arrived as there were three glaring errors on it. I scooted into Sydney on the train, waited my turn at the BDM office, and in less than 15 minutes or so had had the mistakes corrected and a new death certificate issued - but wait, here's a mistake in the corrections! Oh, well, it is a very minor one .... Death certificates are only as reliable as (1) the informant's memory and knowledge of the deceased's background and/or (2) the accuracy of the person recording the information. Never believe ages given on old death certificates, that's my motto. In my experience they can prove to be anything up to 10 years in error. In one case I have encountered, a man shown to be 103 was actually 93. Perhaps he had enjoyed people complimenting him on his youthful looks! On occasions an old death certificate will be found to exclude all children of a first marriage, and even all mention of that event. A list of offspring will very often leave out one or more children who have been living elsewhere for so long they seemed to have escaped the combined memories of the family. I came across a 1924 death certificate in a local family not related to me, in which the deceased was given a strange set of parents, and one of the names listed as his offspring was actually a grandchild. Gwen Dundon East Gosford

This is a success story worth sharing. For years I have been researching the name CARDIFF and have collected quite a little group of correspondents, now mostly on email and from such varied places as Ireland, UK, Scotland, Canada, NZ, China and Belgium and of course, many in Australia. My young Irish correspondent (17 when we first corresponded) has now finished Uni and his name has appeared in several publications. Most of my correspondents didn't know of the others and we have only the vaguest connection, which must be back in Ireland. I have wheedled trees from most of them but still can't find any real connection, just a few familiar names and places that keep cropping up. But I got the bright idea of writing an email to them all, introducing them and giving a few details. And the replies are still rolling in! Some wrote back to me but a few wrote to the list (saying how wonderful Frank was to think of the idea). We are now really sharing details, particularly places to look, who has what and most of all, saving duplication of effort. But here is the gem. My Irish friend said he has transcribed numerous BDMs etc over the years and was hoping to publish details but has no time right now. Offered to give us the details if someone could arrange or perhaps pay for it all to be put into a word processor. An almost immediate reply came from Canada, offering to do the work. My old Irish Grandmother often used to say "many hands make light work" but I don't think she realized they would come from so far afield! Could be a moral in this story - tell your friends! Frank Cardiff East Gosford NSW 2250 Australia

In the Electoral Rolls for 1932-1934, Edward Peter MUTTON is listed at Ourimba creek, living with his wife Florence Mary (May) MUTTON. Her maiden name was MATHEWS Peter died in 1934 (BDM 1934/20908 regd Gosford). He was buried at Point Clare Cemetery on 19 Nov 1934, section 1 RC. Has anyone any information about this family?

Thanks Frank That's all I needed. It was embarrassing enough that my message was sent to the wrong list, and even more embarrassing that the people on this list probably wondered why on earth I posted such an unrelated message, not having seen what went before or what came after. I have already spoken to Marg about this and apologised. I now apologise to everyone else for being off topic and for posting to the wrong list. Cheryl

What a horrible little message from such a lovely person. Here am I telling the world what a lovely place Aus is and replies are coming in from all over agreeing with me and with perhaps a little envy. Tongue may have been in cheek when this comment was written but next time bite the tongue. Forty years is a long time to bear such a petty grudge - long enough to grow up. Now back on topic - and don't compare PCs and Macs or Eudora and Outlook Express or Netscape and Explorer. And don't put a grin on the page - put a smile on your face. >From Frank Cardiff in East Gosford Just north of SYDNEY THE OLYMPIC CITY!

Peter Mayberry wrote: > I know that this is off topic but too bad .... a change is as good as a > holiday *LOL* > > > Congratulations to all the Australian athletes who have contributed to > Sydney 2000 eclipsing Melbourne 1956. HEAR HEAR !! > > > The monkey is now off New South Wales' back ... I've waited over forty years > for this very day. > ME TOO !! (Well, maybe not QUITE that long *G* ) > > No longer do I have to listen to the Vic whingers always comparing our > Olympic efforts to Melbourne in 1956. Its what they do best.... whinge whinge whinge > > > I'm stoked ... > ME TOO!!!! > > Last night, I couldn't believe my ears when a certain Melbourne > 'common_(po)tatah' criticised comments made by Raelene Boyle. > > He talks about it but he's never done it .... Raelene has! *heehee* > > > Thank heavens for Lauren's Gold .... our 13th SYDNEY SYDNEY SYDNEY OI OI OI !!! Regards Cheryl

I am researching my ggrandfather and am really stuck. I don't know what to do next and my family won't help because they think it's none of my business. What I know so far: REYNOLDS, John William b.c. 1860 m. when? PRITCHARD, Mary b.c. 1860 They had a son whom I can't find a birth registration for REYNOLDS, Albert George b.c. 1887 m. (1908 Forbes, NSW) CARNEY, Mary Louise b. 5/6/1887 They had 7 children: REYNOLDS, Kenneth George b.c. 1914 where? REYNOLDS, Cecil James b. 2/4/1915 where? REYNOLDS, Albert George Jr. b.c. 1918 where? REYNOLDS, Patrick, Joseph b. 28/6/1926 Forbes, NSW (my father) REYNOLDS, Leonard John b. 17/4/1932 Coonamble, NSW REYNOLDS, Jean Valerie b. Jan/1934 Coonamble, NSW CARNEY, James b. 7/1/1849 Bathurst, NSW m. SCOTT, Louisa Lucrezia b.c. 1856 Hartley, NSW They had 9 children: CARNEY, Louisa b. 1876 Newcastle CARNEY, Laura Edith Eliza b 20/4/1878 Forbes, NSW CARNEY, Daisy b. 1880 Forbes, NSW) CARNEY, Violet b. 1880 Forbes, NSW) twins died at birth. CARNEY, Florence May b. 1881 Forbes, NSW CARNEY, Joseph S.J. b. 1883 Forbes, NSW CARNEY, Mary Louise b. 5/6/1887 (my grandmother) CARNEY, Evelyn M. b. 1893 Forbes NSW CARNEY, Sarah Victoria b. 4/1/1889 Forbes, NSW Information has it that in the 1930's Albert and Mary and the kids up and left Forbes overnight, changed their name to REARDON not legally and moved up to Qld., in the Toowoomba area and never went back. I think there is a skeleton in the closet concerning my uncle who I new as REARDON, Reginal Gordon ( his real name was REYNOLDS, Cecil James.) He opened a bakery in Toowoomba and all his brothers became bakers. Nobody ever told us there was an uncle Kenneth, apparently he died young, before they left Forbes. I don't know how they got in to baking bread as my ggrandfathers (John William) occupation on my grandfathers marriage certificate was 'bootmaker'. Hope someone can help me. Thanks in advance, Sheryl Reardon.

Dear Listers When I posted a will do the odd SHORT look up for anyone when I go to the NLA ,Canberra , I thought t there would be a mini avalanche. Maybe some of you havent been to/ dont know about the NLA ?? It is about the only place in Australia that has records for ALL States under one roof The offer is still open bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

Dear Listers A chance remark recently lead me to wondering about medical services or lack of in the early days of settlement of this area. Could anyone with Coast ancestors check their birth & death certs and let me know names of the doctors or nurses and the date thank you Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

> Jane Fletcher had two sons (Edward 1848 and John 1849). to a John Berry in > Brisbane Waters> > > Can any one give me any idea/information that will give me a direction to > search ?? Hi Scott, I have just been playing around with the Aus VR CDs. You will recall sometime back I said there were FLETCHERS living in the Brisbane Water area from fairly early on Well a William FLETCHER m Mary J FIELD in 1829 Sydney St James CofE These records reveal just 4 chn , John bpt 1834 Thomas bpt 1837, Mary bpt 1839 and Susanna bpt 1841 All Brisbane Water CofE A William FLETCHER d aged 60 at Gosford in 1861 . A Mary J FLETCHER aged 64 d 1876 Sydney To be married and no children appear for close on 5 yrs back then looks abit suss ??? Be interesting to see how many childrens names there maybe on Wm FLETCHERs death cert ???? This is pure speculation ..............But is giving reasonable vibes Bye Marg Morters List Owner NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia

Hi Brian > > We have lost track with Lloyd's branch of the family and would like to > make contact. Any clues appreciated. There arent a huge number of O'TOOLEs around here. Just 4 in the 2250 area and 6 in 2251 Perhaps pick a couple and phone them ? bye Marg Morters List Owner NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia

Hi Judy > It's hardly early, You arent old enough ! but my memories of growing up in the 1940s and 50's in > Gosford was that there were only 2 doctors- Duncan for the protestants and > Dwyer for the other colour!!! > I was born in Hinemoa private Hospital, not far from the Gosford sailing >Pam Williams would know!) First you have to find her ! Have phoned her 1/2 doz times in the past week or so and no body home Thought perhaps shes must be tied up with the Olympics ? If you see her ask her to phone me Records of medios who where about in 1940s & 50s are also useful as theres very little about in the way of records for this time . Appears the first Dr here was a Dr Robert AULD. Hes in the 1841 census I bought some new folders this morning and one will be marked Brisbane Water medicos bye Marg Morters List Owner NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia

Hello Marg, These Carlisle Robley names sound mighty interesting. I haven't come across the Sewell name so far in my searches, so anything you can find will be most welcome. Best wishes, John Albury, NSW -----Original Message----- From: Marg Morters <[email protected]> To: John Ross <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, 19 September 2000 20:27 Subject: Re: Useful weekly info >Re ROBLEYs of Carlisle . I thought I had this in my computer but if I >did its gone AWOL . William >SEWELL b 1835 Carlisle mother was a ROBLEY . He m a McMILLAN and had >umpteen kids The whole SEWELL family arrived in Brisbane 1885 . One >of the >sons ,Robert Robley SEWELL married into my DORSETT family > >Will have to have a dig around in my paper files asap > >bye > Marg Morters > List Owner > NSW Central Coast Mailing List > Gosford, NSW > Australia > > >

Thanks Marg I went in and had a look (supposed to be working but...) I got evidence for a family story, always very satisfying. My namesake great aunt, Leith Charleston (nee Davis) received an MBE, for the work she did on the Grafton Jacaranda Festival. I probably have enough information from the site to now chase up the citation, so thanks heaps Leith Davis -----Original Message----- From: Marg Morters [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 19 September 2000 21:28 To: [email protected] Subject: Another interesting URL Dear CC Listers Check out http://www.itsanhonour.gov.au I tripped over it just now while looking for something else I DO like these on line data bases........... Bye Marg Morters List Owner NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia ============================== Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. http://pml.rootsweb.com/ Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.