sorry people, I hit the reply button without thinking and it went to the list instead of to Marie Leith -----Original Message----- From: Davis, Leith (FORESTRY) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2000 9:38 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Cook, Davis, Humphreys, McCristal, O'Leary,Pickett Hi Marie nice to see you, in a manner of speaking! Did I send you the descendancy chart I have for Edward Davis? (It gets more involved) One of his daughters, Eva, married a Leo L. Pickett. The NSW Post Office Directory for 1912 lists Leo L. Pickett and Chas E Pickett living at Nambucca Heads. Do you have anything on these two? I had forgotten that your ggrandmother was Susannah Pickett. One of Eva's descendants has been in touch, through Gwen - have you been in touch with her? I work in spurts - at the moment family history is losing out to work and spring gardening. I built a new house (my very first, due to unfortunate choice of partners :) three years ago and have had a very limited budget for all the extras ever since. Finally got side fences, so went berserk this spring establishing trees shrubs and new garden beds. We have a very hot dry summer so the window of opportunity is nearly shut now until autumn. -----Original Message----- From: MBRiley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2000 20:46 To: [email protected] Subject: Cook, Davis, Humphreys, McCristal, O'Leary,Pickett Researching, 1. Edward McCRISTAL m Elizabeth COOK(E) in1847. Edward worked as a sawyer in the Gosford area in the 1850s. His third child Francis was born at Mosquito Town (Erina) in 1855. 2. William DAVIS, arrived in Gosford area in 1839. Sons Thomas, Rock, Edward, Benjamin were shipbuilders and there is a lot of documented research about then - thanks mainly to Gwen Dundon. I am descended from Thomas who married Susannah PICKETT. I have a fair bit of information but I'm sure there is a lot more out there! 3. Patrick HUMPHREYS m Catherine MOONEY, 1802. Son Thomas m Mary SPEARS, 1829. Daughter Anne m William Sampson PICKETT, 1830 4. Henry PICKETT. Arrived Sydney 1803. Died 1806. Son William Sampson m Anne Humphreys 1830 Their daughter Susannah married Thomas DAVIS (my g grand father) 5. Michael O'LEARY m Margaret HURLEY in Bansha, Tipperary abt 1822. Arrived in Australia in 1844 and settled in Cooranbong area. Son Timothy married Ann HUMPHREYS, 1854 (daughter of Thomas and Mary HUMPHREYS) 6. Abel DAVIS (son of Thomas) m Catherine O'LEARY (daughter of Michael and Ann) in 1882. These were my grandparents. It all gets a bit involved! Marie Riley ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 6 November 2000 17:00 Subject: AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-D Digest V00 #49 ============================== The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hi Marie nice to see you, in a manner of speaking! Did I send you the descendancy chart I have for Edward Davis? (It gets more involved) One of his daughters, Eva, married a Leo L. Pickett. The NSW Post Office Directory for 1912 lists Leo L. Pickett and Chas E Pickett living at Nambucca Heads. Do you have anything on these two? I had forgotten that your ggrandmother was Susannah Pickett. One of Eva's descendants has been in touch, through Gwen - have you been in touch with her? I work in spurts - at the moment family history is losing out to work and spring gardening. I built a new house (my very first, due to unfortunate choice of partners :) three years ago and have had a very limited budget for all the extras ever since. Finally got side fences, so went berserk this spring establishing trees shrubs and new garden beds. We have a very hot dry summer so the window of opportunity is nearly shut now until autumn. -----Original Message----- From: MBRiley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2000 20:46 To: [email protected] Subject: Cook, Davis, Humphreys, McCristal, O'Leary,Pickett Researching, 1. Edward McCRISTAL m Elizabeth COOK(E) in1847. Edward worked as a sawyer in the Gosford area in the 1850s. His third child Francis was born at Mosquito Town (Erina) in 1855. 2. William DAVIS, arrived in Gosford area in 1839. Sons Thomas, Rock, Edward, Benjamin were shipbuilders and there is a lot of documented research about then - thanks mainly to Gwen Dundon. I am descended from Thomas who married Susannah PICKETT. I have a fair bit of information but I'm sure there is a lot more out there! 3. Patrick HUMPHREYS m Catherine MOONEY, 1802. Son Thomas m Mary SPEARS, 1829. Daughter Anne m William Sampson PICKETT, 1830 4. Henry PICKETT. Arrived Sydney 1803. Died 1806. Son William Sampson m Anne Humphreys 1830 Their daughter Susannah married Thomas DAVIS (my g grand father) 5. Michael O'LEARY m Margaret HURLEY in Bansha, Tipperary abt 1822. Arrived in Australia in 1844 and settled in Cooranbong area. Son Timothy married Ann HUMPHREYS, 1854 (daughter of Thomas and Mary HUMPHREYS) 6. Abel DAVIS (son of Thomas) m Catherine O'LEARY (daughter of Michael and Ann) in 1882. These were my grandparents. It all gets a bit involved! Marie Riley ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 6 November 2000 17:00 Subject: AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-D Digest V00 #49 ============================== The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1

Hi Roger , can you please advise how I join GENANZ, I don't know it. Main address is http://lists.rootsweb.com/ Select Australia then GENANZ. If you get it this way suggest only as a digest and can get pretty busy This is also gated as a newsgroup soc.genealogy.australia+nz which is how I take it also GENBRIT is gated as soc.genealogy.britain as is GENIRE ...soc.genealogy.ireland All 3 have alot of messages so its far better to take as a newsgroup . This way you down load just the message headers and then select the messages that catch your eye and then down load them . As a rootsweb list you take the lot bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

Have had a look at the index to "Historical Records of the CC of NSW" for Robley. There are several refs for John Robley, Sr and Jr, but all seem to refer to a court case or hearing in Jan 1861, probably they were giving evidence (just my guess). Perhaps some kind Lister has time to check it out for you on the microfilmed records of the Bench Books and Court Cases at Gosford Library? Regards, Gwen

Researching, 1. Edward McCRISTAL m Elizabeth COOK(E) in1847. Edward worked as a sawyer in the Gosford area in the 1850s. His third child Francis was born at Mosquito Town (Erina) in 1855. 2. William DAVIS, arrived in Gosford area in 1839. Sons Thomas, Rock, Edward, Benjamin were shipbuilders and there is a lot of documented research about then - thanks mainly to Gwen Dundon. I am descended from Thomas who married Susannah PICKETT. I have a fair bit of information but I'm sure there is a lot more out there! 3. Patrick HUMPHREYS m Catherine MOONEY, 1802. Son Thomas m Mary SPEARS, 1829. Daughter Anne m William Sampson PICKETT, 1830 4. Henry PICKETT. Arrived Sydney 1803. Died 1806. Son William Sampson m Anne Humphreys 1830 Their daughter Susannah married Thomas DAVIS (my g grand father) 5. Michael O'LEARY m Margaret HURLEY in Bansha, Tipperary abt 1822. Arrived in Australia in 1844 and settled in Cooranbong area. Son Timothy married Ann HUMPHREYS, 1854 (daughter of Thomas and Mary HUMPHREYS) 6. Abel DAVIS (son of Thomas) m Catherine O'LEARY (daughter of Michael and Ann) in 1882. These were my grandparents. It all gets a bit involved! Marie Riley ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 6 November 2000 17:00 Subject: AUS-NSW-CENTRAL-COAST-D Digest V00 #49

Hi David > > JOHN TAAFFE and family who settled near Cams Wharf, Lake Macquarie. Whether of the same family I dont know but I know a Barry TAFFE, who lives at Woy Woy . His wife , Mary is abit interested in family history > colony in 1817. After several misadventures he was assigned to Robert > Henderson at Brisbane Waters. He managed Henderson's dairy at > Another ancestor, who was an early settler in Yarramalong, was WILLIAM > BEAVEN. But maybe that's outside the area ? No........ A heap of info on him and his descendants in the Wyong Pioneers books published by the Wyong FHG Have the names and addresses of the 4 contributors that I could sed direct to you ? Bye Marg Morters Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia [email protected]

Marg Many thanks, can you please advise how I join GENANZ, I don't know it. Sincerely Roger

----- > Marg. Many thanks for your e-mail, I have only just got the info. that Florrie married Charles in 1928, together with the ref; 10899. I am getting the marriage certificate, but being impatient, thought I might meanwhile try a mailing list (which is how I got the info. in the first place) > > as you suggested I have subscribed to AUS-NSW-L and hope to learn more. Roger You probably would do better with GENANZ as this has far more subscribers.....or try both ! Bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

Hello Gwen, Any entries for Robley in this ? John Ross Albury, NSW >Also, have you checked "Historical Records of the Central Coast of New South >Wales" - Bench Books and Court Cases: 1826-74 published by Gosford Local >History Study Group? Copies at the Family History Group rooms I feel sure. >Many entries in the index for both Freeman and Taaffe. > >Best wishes, >Gwen Dundon

Hello Leith Many thanks for replying to my email. It would be great if you could have a look on your database and see what you could find. My great granddad was born in 1848 so I'm not sure that the Lydia Piper (b. 1873) you mention would have been the mother of my granddad - however, we must look at all trees/branches or whatever. I have been told that Lydia (Sarah) Piper and my G/Grandad Charles Henry (aka Henry Charles) were not married. It would be nice to find some family - what type of cousins are there Leith ??? the only ones I've heard of are "kissin cousins" !!! - haven't got any of those either !!! Regards PamC (nee Coulter) PS I did contact Dr. Graham Piper who wrote "The Minorca Pipers" - he doesn't think there is a connection although on page 97 of his book he speaks about a Sarah Rebecca Piper. He could not at the time he wrote the book find much information about her. -----Original Message----- From: Davis, Leith (FORESTRY) <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 12:00 PM Subject: RE: Introduction to help solve ' brick walls'

Pam The other Pipers were the ones of much more social significance who were based around Bathurst and aren't any relation. I'd be very surprised if your Lydia/Sarah isn't connected to the Minorca Pipers because of the geographical connection, and because Lydia and Sarah are both family names. I will have a look at what I have Leith -----Original Message----- From: pam clarke [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2000 13:59 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Introduction to help solve ' brick walls' Hello Leith Many thanks for replying to my email. It would be great if you could have a look on your database and see what you could find. My great granddad was born in 1848 so I'm not sure that the Lydia Piper (b. 1873) you mention would have been the mother of my granddad - however, we must look at all trees/branches or whatever. I have been told that Lydia (Sarah) Piper and my G/Grandad Charles Henry (aka Henry Charles) were not married. It would be nice to find some family - what type of cousins are there Leith ??? the only ones I've heard of are "kissin cousins" !!! - haven't got any of those either !!! Regards PamC (nee Coulter) PS I did contact Dr. Graham Piper who wrote "The Minorca Pipers" - he doesn't think there is a connection although on page 97 of his book he speaks about a Sarah Rebecca Piper. He could not at the time he wrote the book find much information about her. -----Original Message----- From: Davis, Leith (FORESTRY) <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 12:00 PM Subject: RE: Introduction to help solve ' brick walls' ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Attn of Marg Morters. Marg. Many thanks for your e-mail, I have only just got the info. that Florrie married Charles in 1928, together with the ref; 10899. I am getting the marriage certificate, but being impatient, thought I might meanwhile try a mailing list (which is how I got the info. in the first place) as you suggested I have subscribed to AUS-NSW-L and hope to learn more. I will also have a go at marbract. Thanks for your help. Roger

Hi Roger ----- . > My Great Aunt, Florrie CATTELL emigrated to OZ around 1925 and married Charles F. HOLDEN in NSW in 1928. Yes in the inner Sydney suburb of Drumoyne ref # 10899 No birth found in NSW for any Charles F HOLDEN We believe Florrie was killed in a car accident, but have no idea of when or where. Are there any descendants, I would like to know if I have rellies in OZ, or anyone who can give me the full story? This list covers quite a small area of coastal NSW to the north of Sydney . Feel sure you would do better if you reposted this to either AUS-NSW-L or GENANZ Birth indexes are publicin NSW to 1918 and marriages and deaths to 1945 Suggest you buy a copy of this marriage cert as will give you info that may help like full date , where they married , witnesses names ,their addresses etc You can get transcriptions of alot of NSW BDM record's See www.marbract.com.au for details bye Marg Morters Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia [email protected]

Hi Pam My great great grandmother was Lydia Piper, daughter of Jonathan Piper, but she married Edward Davis. I had a quick look on my database, there is another Lydia born 19 Oct 1873 to William Brisbane Piper (Jonathan's son). I don't have any marriage for her yet. She died 12 Sep 1957. There are a few Sarahs, but I don't have a Coulter. Then again I don't have all the marriages for the extended family yet. If you like I can go in to the database at lunchtime and get a list of the Sarahs that I have so far. regards leith davis ps: I guess we must be cousins of some kind anyway, even if we don't know yet what kind!! -----Original Message----- From: pam clarke [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 6 November 2000 20:32 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Introduction to help solve ' brick walls' Hello one and all. I don't really remember when or how I got bitten by the "family history research bug" (fhrb) - I do know it is a couple of years now and some times it is very frustrating BUT when you get a lead which provides lots of lovely information, being bitten by the fhrb is not too bad at all. My brick wall is: Lydia (or Sarah) Piper. She is shown as the mother on my grandad's birth transcript. He was Samuel Henry Coulter, born Brisbane Water, NSW 22 April 1878. The birth transcript also states: Previous Issue: 1 male living; 1 male deceased - again I have not been able to find any records. I have not yet found a marriage for Lydia (Sarah) Piper and G/Grandad Charles Henry (aka Henry) Coulter nor have I found a death for her. G/Grandad Charles Henry (aka Henry) died in 1924 his wife is shown as: Maria Hicks. Children of Marriage are given as Edwin and Lily - living. Does anyone out there know my mystery lady ? or have any information on the above ? it be greatly would be appreciated. Happy researching Pam Clarke (nee Coulter) -----Original Message----- From: Marg Morters <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, November 05, 2000 10:08 PM Subject: Re: Introduction to help solve ' brick walls' ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Hello David, There are some Taaffe entries in my files, taken from the C of E birth and marriage entries. Probably you have them, but here goes: John Taaffe married Elizabeth Freeman (she signed with a cross) on 12.6.1849, witnesses were Mary Anne D(P or B ?)oole of Gosford and William Beavan of Wyong. Children born in the Gosford district to John and Elizabeth Taaffe: James b. 16.8.1850 at Cabbage Tree, father a labourer (James died 1924, Jan or Feb, at West Wallsend where he had lived for about 25 years. Buried there.) Mary Ann b. 2.3.1853 at Blue Gum Flat [Ourimbah], father a sawyer John b. 27.6.1855 at Erina, father a butcher Elizabeth b. 12.4.1857 at Erina, father a butcher Have you checked out Edward Stinson's books on the history of Wyong in six volumes for William Beavan, who was I think a bullock driver in the timber industry? He was born on 1 March, 1810, died after long suffering on 29 April 1887. His widow Isabella died 14 August 1904 aged 82 (details from their large headstone in a Wyong area cemetery .. I took the photo for one of Stinson's books). Also, have you checked "Historical Records of the Central Coast of New South Wales" - Bench Books and Court Cases: 1826-74 published by Gosford Local History Study Group? Copies at the Family History Group rooms I feel sure. Many entries in the index for both Freeman and Taaffe. Best wishes, Gwen Dundon

Good morning Brent Can't help you with your brickwalls but I can tell you that my early family settlers to the Brisbane Water/Woy Woy area have a small lane/street named after them. It is the Coulter Lane/street and is situated close to the Deepwater Plaza and KFC, Woy Woy. I was recently in the area checking out cemeteries etc etc. but ran out of time so I haven't yet walked Coulter Lane/street. Happy researching. PamC PS. My early family settlers were both convicts. -----Original Message----- From: Brent Richards <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:45 PM Subject: general introduction

Hello Roger from "the beautiful blue mountains" outside Sydney, NSW. Sorry cannot help you at all but keep researching. PamC -----Original Message----- From: Roger J. Cattell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 5:29 AM Subject: HOLDEN + CATTELL >Hello from wet Northamptonshire. >My Great Aunt, Florrie CATTELL emigrated to OZ around 1925 and married Charles F. HOLDEN in NSW in 1928. We believe Florrie was killed in a car accident, but have no idea of when or where. Are there any descendants, I would like to know if I have rellies in OZ, or anyone who can give me the full story? >Hopefully and sincerely >Roger Cattell > > >============================== >The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family >members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. >http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp >

Hello one and all. I don't really remember when or how I got bitten by the "family history research bug" (fhrb) - I do know it is a couple of years now and some times it is very frustrating BUT when you get a lead which provides lots of lovely information, being bitten by the fhrb is not too bad at all. My brick wall is: Lydia (or Sarah) Piper. She is shown as the mother on my grandad's birth transcript. He was Samuel Henry Coulter, born Brisbane Water, NSW 22 April 1878. The birth transcript also states: Previous Issue: 1 male living; 1 male deceased - again I have not been able to find any records. I have not yet found a marriage for Lydia (Sarah) Piper and G/Grandad Charles Henry (aka Henry) Coulter nor have I found a death for her. G/Grandad Charles Henry (aka Henry) died in 1924 his wife is shown as: Maria Hicks. Children of Marriage are given as Edwin and Lily - living. Does anyone out there know my mystery lady ? or have any information on the above ? it be greatly would be appreciated. Happy researching Pam Clarke (nee Coulter) -----Original Message----- From: Marg Morters <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, November 05, 2000 10:08 PM Subject: Re: Introduction to help solve ' brick walls'

Hello from wet Northamptonshire. My Great Aunt, Florrie CATTELL emigrated to OZ around 1925 and married Charles F. HOLDEN in NSW in 1928. We believe Florrie was killed in a car accident, but have no idea of when or where. Are there any descendants, I would like to know if I have rellies in OZ, or anyone who can give me the full story? Hopefully and sincerely Roger Cattell

----- Hi Rod This was an exceedingly long email . I read some of it but .......... It would have been better for everyone had you broken it down into small indivual 'brickwalls' > Descendants of Edward KENNEDY > Generation No. 1 > > 1. Edward1 KENNEDY was born in Ireland. He married Maria MILLER Bet. > 1825 - 1833 in Dublin, Ireland, daughter of Thomas MILLER and Kate WILSON. > She was born Bet. 1790 - 1798 in County Longford, West Meath, Ireland, and > died September 27, 1888 in Sydney, > Notes for Edward KENNEDY: > BRICK WALL: Can not find a death of Edward KENNEDY or when he arrived in Australia What records have you checked ?? > With the death of Maria KENNEDY in 1888 her life span in the NSW, Australia, > 50 years, would make it 1838 arriving in Australia> > > On his daughter Kate Van Wessem certificate of death, gives her father's > occupation as Architect Did this appear on certs of other children ?? I had a quick look in the Sands PO dirs just for 1879 . Was only one Edward KENNEDY . His address was 8 Roxbough Place Sydney . He wasnt an architect bye Marg Morters Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia [email protected]