Dear Listers There are close to 80 subscribers to this list and I think you are nearly all fence sitters . This could be a useful research tool for you who have Central Coast Family roots or who are interested in local history But its what you all make it . I have posted a few bits and pieces and for the most part got no reaction at all . Would you be interested in a Q & A session ?? Someone ask a question like how did Lisarow get called Lisarow . how did Reileys island get is name. and Davistown get named etc etc . How do you find out how an ancestor got here ? . How do I find out ???? When did the railway arrive ? What has Gosford Library got in the way of records and what has the CC FHS got that Gosford hasnt and vice visa ??? And what about Tuggarah Library and the LDS Library ?? What info is at the Land titles Office ? NSW State Library , State Records . Is is worth joining the SAG ? How do I get to these places ? Come on fence sitters make abit of noise . Introduce yourselves There could be a 6th cuz 10 times removed that also a fence sitter subscribed to this list but unless one of you makes a move neither will find out So how about it ? Bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

Dear Listers A useful and very interesting site is a sort of version of www.babelfish.com Found on rootsweb this morning http://lypy2.archives.nd.education/cgi-bin/words.exe This little baby translates Latin words /phrases into English So if you come across morbis cordis on a death cert , help is at hand bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

Can any CC lister help Helen with some info ?? And please post any answer to the list as well as to Helen . Might just stir up some interest in Central Coast people and their history Thanks MargM ----- Original Message ----- From: "hjayd" <[email protected]> To: "margm" <[email protected]> Sent: 04 January 2001 22:16 Subject: The Village Poet > Hi Marg, > > Not sure if you can help but I have seen several of your postings on > AUS-CONVICTS list & noted you were on the Central Coast. > > I lived in Pearl Beach from 1957 to 1964. Aged 10 - 17. My parents continued > living there & then later at Umina until 1980. > My father retired early from work at age 49 due to injuries from a car > accident and although not a heavy drinker, frequented the Ocean Beach Hotel > at Umina on a daily basis mainly for male company. > Over the years he spoke of "The Village Poet" who was a 'friend' he made at > the hotel. The poet it seems wrote endless verse recounting the tales he > heard over an ale or two. Prior to my parents deaths my father gave me some > hand written poetry signed, "The Village Poet". Some of these poems retold > some fishing tales that my father had originally told about the fishing > trips of my older brother(a great jew-fisherman). Another is a comical > recount of a local who rode his bicycle daily to the Ocean Beach Hotel, > where he drank too much & provided entertainment in his endeavours to get > home. > Unfortunately I have no record of the poets name. > Although I would like to keep the poems relating to my family members I am > happy to provide photocopies to any other interested party. > > Do you know of anyone in your group who may know who this person is or was? > > Do you know of anyone researching such a person? > > Many thanks > Helen Dickinson > Sydney

----- Original Message ----- From: "N Finn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 30 December 2000 09:06 Subject: CROSS Hi Nancy > New member to your list. Welcome ! This list covers a relatively small coastal area north of Sdney and south of Newcastle Researching the family name CROSS (Jim) James > William born Cardiff Wales U.K. 1912. CROSS is a fairly common surname with over 1100 persons named thus in NSW. What info do you have connecting him this area ? Bye Marg Morters List Owner NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

Dear Listers RESEARCH CENTRE GRAND REOPENING. The Research Centre of the Central Coast Family History Society Inc will reopen its doors at Lot 1 Russell Drysdale Street, East Gosford on January 15th 2001 at 9.30am. The Centre will be opening for shorter hours for January but as from February it will continue to be opened 6 days per week. Any inquiries in the meantime can be directed to The Research Centre Co-ordinator, Kay Radford at [email protected] or by telephone to 4344 6512 or mobile 0438 446512.

Dear CC Listers Do you all take Rootswebs Review ?? These are 2 weekly newsletters that are there for the taking. Pays to keep up with what happening ( send an email ro [email protected] ) If you got this weeks you probably would have seen a short story from me A few days prior to Christmas I suddenly remembered I had forgotten to send a Chrissy card one of my mothers REDDING cousin in England . By way of atonement I thought I'd send him a print out of what REDDING family info I had gathered. Was reading thru this as alot was research I'd done a few years ago, when a name leapt off the page and I wondered........ One of my gpas brothers had been named Henry Mortleman REDDING. Had known that for ages and thought no more of it :-) Silly me. A classic case of not practising what I preach aka.of leaving no stone unturned . This turned out to be a ruddy great rock that set the MORTLEMAN families main researcher ( in S Aus ! ) abuzz in the form of a stray located . That stray was Eliza GROVE. one of my gt gt gmothers, whose maiden name, MORTLEMAN I discovered on Christmas Day 2000. Happy hunting to you all in 2001 Bye Marg Morters List Owner NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

Good morning Nancy Sorry can't help - so far I haven't found any CROSS names in my family research. Happy researching Pam Clarke Beautiful Blue Mountains New South Wales Australia -----Original Message----- From: N Finn <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, December 30, 2000 10:07 AM Subject: CROSS >Morning Listers >New member to your list. Researching the family name CROSS (Jim) James >William born Cardiff Wales U.K. 1912. Would like to make contact with >others researching the same name. Seasons Greetings >Nancy Tauranga N.Z. > > >============================== >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ >

Morning Listers New member to your list. Researching the family name CROSS (Jim) James William born Cardiff Wales U.K. 1912. Would like to make contact with others researching the same name. Seasons Greetings Nancy Tauranga N.Z.

Morning Pam, Just popping in to say Merry Christmas to one and all... Must start soon to explore all the internet possibilities of Christmas Greetings for future reference. BIt late for this year, but bet there are tons of them. Off to Melbourne tomorrow for 25th with sister and family, then fly back for 26th with other sister Robyn & family celebrations at Coledale. Think I'd better start running today. However couldnt let the season pass without adding my best wishes. Cheers Marlene -----Original Message----- From: pam clarke <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 8:30 AM Subject: Re: general introduction >Good morning Brent > >Can't help you with your brickwalls but I can tell you that my early family >settlers to the Brisbane Water/Woy Woy area have a small lane/street named >after them. It is the Coulter Lane/street and is situated close to the >Deepwater Plaza and KFC, Woy Woy. I was recently in the area checking out >cemeteries etc etc. but ran out of time so I haven't yet walked Coulter >Lane/street. > >Happy researching. PamC > >PS. My early family settlers were both convicts. >-----Original Message----- >From: Brent Richards <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] ><[email protected]> >Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 11:45 PM >Subject: general introduction > > > > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

lets see if I can get the address right this time! > -----Original Message----- > From: Davis, Leith (FORESTRY) > Sent: Tuesday, 19 December 2000 15:48 > To: 'AUS-NSW-CENTRAL [email protected]' > Subject: BATEMAN > > > Does anyone have Bateman connections? I know that a Mary Maria Bateman > married a Settree. I've just been working on a completely separate bit of > family, my maternal grandmother's Kilpatrick family, and discovered that > Henry Maidment, who married Elizabeth Kilpatrick (my gmother's aunt) in > 1871, married Emma B Bateman in 1881, after Elizabeth died. With the way > these families loop around, I'm wondering if there is any connection. I > can't find a birth entry for Emma B. > > Leith Davis > Senior Policy Adviser > ForestrySA > Tel: (08) 8303 9966 >

Dear CC Listers Several of you have emailed my for the answers :-) The idea is that you have a dig around and find out . I have to with the last question. A stab in the dark says Edmund BURKE but that just a guess. Could just as easily be attributed to either of the 4 If anyone has English or Scottish ancestry you really do need to know the answers to most of these questions While not directly to do with CC family history I feel its a useful exercise in the basics of finding out info . OK so you dont know which was the first useful census in England from a genealogical point of view . How do you find out ??...... Check on either a Gibsons or an Eve McLaughlin guide in the CC FHS library ( once we reopen) Check on the GENUKI site One of the big hurdles with this hobby is knowing whose got what and where who is :-) Bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

Thank you for this Marg, I will pick a cool day after Christmas. Denise Dunno if anyones been there this week ? The air conditioning is on the blink and will be til February !!!! Its not the coolest of building when the air con is working ............. Bye Marg Morters Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia ============================================================== Denise Perentin Woy Woy, NSW Australia mailto:[email protected] Home Page http://www.terrigal.net.au/~perentin/

Hi Listers I am a researcher of the Family of Thomas Grant & Ellen Jennings I have a fair bit of research of this family and am seeking to make contact with any descendants. Names associated with their childrens marriages are HENDERSON. PEARSON, FITZPATRICK, NORMAN, CLARKE,ORPEN/DARLING(married twice),LUCAS , WALLS The family lived at Blue Gum Flat and later near Erina Creek. Thomas Grant was a sawyer, Timber dealer, or farmer depending on whater ever certificate you read. regards Faye Sheridan

Dunno if anyones been there this week ? The air conditioning is on the blink and will be til February !!!! Its not the coolest of building when the air con is working ............. Bye Marg Morters Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia

Dear CC Listers I nicked this from soc.genealogy.britain from Roy STOCKDILL as thought it might be of interest This list has gone from quiet to SILENT ? Hasnt anyone got anythng to say about genealogy and that in particular of the Central Coast ?? > On 13 Dec 2000 07:25:08 -0800, in soc.genealogy.britain you wrote: > > >AROUND this time for the last couple of years I have posted a Yorkshire > >Christmas Quiz to the Yorkshire lists to which I belong to enable listers > >to keep the brain cells ticking over for a day or two during the seasonal > >festivities. This year I thought I would do something a bit different, so I > >have devised a more general UK Genealogy Quiz, which I thought I would > >share with you. It is based on the format of the hugely popular British TV > >quiz show Who Wants To Be A Millionaire (the one on which Camilla Parker > >Bowles' cousin became the first winner of a million pounds). I am posting > >it early because one or two of the questions may require some research to > >answer - and, in any case, you will all be much too full of the turkey, > >pud, mince pies and brandy over Christmas to want to tax your brains too > >much! No doubt some of you will find it all too easy, but I have tried to > >pitch it at the level of the "experienced beginner" who has been involved > >in family history for a few months. Most of the questions posed here have > >appeared on this list, or been mentioned in some way, at one time or > >another. I should also point out that the quiz is strictly for fun, so > >anyone getting every question right needn't come knocking on my door > >expecting a cheque! > > > >The format is simple - 15 questions, starting off with some gentle and easy > >ones, building to the more difficult ones as the money being played for > >goes up. You are given four options with each question, only one of which > >is the right answer. In the full TV version a contestant who doesn't know > >the answer to a question is allowed an option to "Phone A Friend" just > >once. In our case, I guess it should be "E-mail a Friend"! > > > >THE QUESTIONS > > > >For £100 - What do the initials IGI stand for? > >A: International Genealogical Institute > >B: Irish Genealogists Incorporated > >C: International Genealogical Index > >D: Institute of Genealogical Inspectors > > > >For £200 - When did civil registration of births, marriages and deaths > >begin in England and Wales? > >A: November 1066 > >B: July 1837 > >C: January 1901 > >D: March 1750 > > > >For £300 - Which was the first UK census to give names and addresses? > >A: 1801 > >B: 1831 > >C: 1851 > >D: 1841 > > > >For £500 - What was a wapentake? > >A: A Norman spear used for hunting > >B: An administrative area in Yorkshire > >C: A heraldic device used on shields > >D: A 17th century mug used for toasts > > > >For £1,000 - In which year did Britain switch from the Julian to the > >Gregorian Calendar? > >A: 1752 > >B: 1582 > >C: 1707 > >D: 1850 > > > >For £2,000 - When were parish registers introduced in England and Wales? > >A: 1650 > >B: 1445 > >C: 1700 > >D: 1538 > > > >For £4,000 - What date did civil registration of BMDs begin in Scotland? > >A: July 1837 > >B: June 1850 > >C: January 1855 > >D: January 1864 > > > >For £8,000 - Who was responsible for introducing parish registers into the > >Church of England? > >A: Thomas Cranmer > >B: Thomas Cromwell > >C: Oliver Cromwell > >D: Oliver Hardy > > > >For £16,000 - What date was Lady Day? > >A: March 25 > >B: September 29 > >C: January 1 > >D: July 4 > > > >For £32,000 - What do the initials BT stand for? > >A: British Territory > >B: Bishops' Tithes > >C: Bishops' Transcripts > >D: Building Tax > > > >For £64,000 - What was a villein? > >A: A criminal > >B: An unfree tenant of land owned by a feudal lord > >C: A term found in Poor Law documents > >D: An 18th century shipyard worker > > > >For £125,000 - Between what dates did the Hearth Tax operate? > >A: 1066 to 1100 > >B: 1502 to 1510 > >C: 1801 to 1830 > >D: 1662 to 1688 > > > >For £250,000 - What was a peculiar? > >A: An unusual clause in a will > >B: A parish or manor exempt from the jurisdiction of the bishop in whose > >diocese it was located > >C: In the 18th century, a piece of land belonging to the Crown > >D: A 19th century slang term for an institution for the insane > > > >For £500,000 - What were Posse Comitatus Lists? > >A: Lists of men pressed into the Royal Navy > >B: Registers of applicants for help under the Poor Laws > >C: Lists of the Anglican clergy in the 18th century > >D: Lists of civilians to be called into action in the event of a Napoleonic > >invasion of England > > > >For £1,000,000 - Who said: "People will not look forward to posterity, who > >never look backward to their ancestors"? > >A: George Bernard Shaw > >B: Oscar Wilde > >C: Benjamin Disraeli > >D: Edmund Burke > > > >ENJOY!!! > > > >Roy Stockdill > >Editor, The Journal of One-Name Studies > >The Stockdill Family History Society > >Web page:- http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/roystock > >Web page of the Guild of One-Name Studies:- http://www.one-name.org > >"Never ask a man if he comes from Yorkshire. If he does he will tell you. > >If he does not, why humiliate him?" - Canon Sydney Smith (scholar and > >humorist 1771-1845) > > > Marg Morters > Central Coast Family History Society > Gosford > NSW > Australia

Hope you & your family have a lovely Christmas. Regards Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Stewart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 10:17 PM Subject: CHRISTMAS GREETINGS & THANKS > Greetings to Listers, One and All > > Just a note to wish each of the the Joys and Happiness of the Festive > Season. > > Let us not forget the reason for the season - Christ who came to be our > Brother and Our Saviour. > > May the Peace that only he can give fill each of your hearts and the hearts > of those you love this Christmas. > > May 2001 be a great year for each of us as we continue our search. > > THANK YOU to all those who helped me in any way this year. I do appreciate > it. > > I'm unsubing for the next 6 weeks or so, as I'm away from my base and wont > have ready access to my email. Have found some NZ rellies I want to meet. > > Look forward to joining in the search in 2001. > > With best wishes > > Peter Stewart fms > Brisbane > 3g grandson of Daniel & Elizabeth Jurd > > > SAVE OUR CENSUS > > ON 7 AUGUST 2001 VOTE "YES" > > To keeping your household census form > in the National Archives of Australia, > so this data will be available for > genealogical, historical and medical research > by our descendants in 100 years time. > > There are more than 100,000 genealogists in Australia. > > TELL 10 OF YOUR FRIENDS TO TELL 10 OF THEIR FRIENDS > HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO SAVE THESE RECORDS. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ^ "To Live On In The Hearts And Minds Of Descendants ^ > ^ Is To Never Die". ^ > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > Researching: > Descendants of Daniel & Elizabeth Jurd, and associated families > in the Hawkesbury and Macdonald River, Wollombi and Hunter Region as well as > Moree and surrounding districts. > > Also researching the families of > Dugald & Hannah Stewart [Jurd Connection] paternal > Timothy & Margretta Tomlins} maternal > David & Mary Simon } side > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ============================== > Search over 600 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Greetings to Listers, One and All Just a note to wish each of the the Joys and Happiness of the Festive Season. Let us not forget the reason for the season - Christ who came to be our Brother and Our Saviour. May the Peace that only he can give fill each of your hearts and the hearts of those you love this Christmas. May 2001 be a great year for each of us as we continue our search. THANK YOU to all those who helped me in any way this year. I do appreciate it. I'm unsubing for the next 6 weeks or so, as I'm away from my base and wont have ready access to my email. Have found some NZ rellies I want to meet. Look forward to joining in the search in 2001. With best wishes Peter Stewart fms Brisbane 3g grandson of Daniel & Elizabeth Jurd SAVE OUR CENSUS ON 7 AUGUST 2001 VOTE "YES" To keeping your household census form in the National Archives of Australia, so this data will be available for genealogical, historical and medical research by our descendants in 100 years time. There are more than 100,000 genealogists in Australia. TELL 10 OF YOUR FRIENDS TO TELL 10 OF THEIR FRIENDS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO SAVE THESE RECORDS. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ "To Live On In The Hearts And Minds Of Descendants ^ ^ Is To Never Die". ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Researching: Descendants of Daniel & Elizabeth Jurd, and associated families in the Hawkesbury and Macdonald River, Wollombi and Hunter Region as well as Moree and surrounding districts. Also researching the families of Dugald & Hannah Stewart [Jurd Connection] paternal Timothy & Margretta Tomlins} maternal David & Mary Simon } side _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Murray Oldham" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 29 November 2000 23:01 Subject: Dorothy WHITE/NOAKES, NOKES, OKES? Hi Vickie > > I am looking for information on DOROTHY WHITE (who is my cousin but we always called her Aunt). 1960's when she living on the Central Coast. 4th November 1964 in St Kilda. She said she was married to a Mr NOAKES, Nokes, Okes, ??? I checked the 1965 electoral roll for electorate of Robertson and couldnt find any Dorothy NOAKES/vars . Was there any funeral notice in a Melbourne paper 4 Nov 1964 that may have listed full names of relations attending ? Without knowing the correct surname its pretty well impossible to find info bye Marg Morters Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia

Hi everyone I am looking for information on DOROTHY WHITE (who is my cousin but we always called her Aunt). We lost contact in the 1960's when she living on the Central Coast. She had contacted my mother about some family matters after her sister Ethel died on 4th November 1964 in St Kilda. She said she was married to a Mr NOAKES, Nokes, Okes, ??? Maybe someone can help with the married name. She also said she had children. She also asked Mum about racehorses in Glen Innes - Does this ring a bell with anyone? Dorothy's mother was SARAH WHITE, and her father, we believe, was CHARLES WHITE. Sarah WHITE was born in England in 1898. She came to Australia in about 1906 with her father Charles White and step-mother, Florrie White (nee WARDLE) and lived at "Butter Leaf", Glen Innes between the years 1927 and 1937. Sarah had five (illegit) children: (1)Sarah Ethel White, she was called Ethel but we also knew her as Ciss. She was born in 1914 in Sydney and died in St Kilda in 1964. (2)Frederick J. White was born in Sydney in 1918. We believe Freddy and Dorothy were adopted out together but we cannot find any record of this. (3)Dorothy we believe was born around 1920-25. (4)Alexander born about 1926 and died in 1926. (5)Johney Albert White was born in 1928 at Collaroy. We are searching the WHITE family back to England. Dorothy's children maybe able to help. Can anyone help is locating our lost my cousins. Regards Vicki Please reply to me care of [email protected]

sorry people I hit the dreaded reply button and it went to the list instead of to Mary - I think it is the Rootsweb booby trap -----Original Message----- From: Davis, Leith (FORESTRY) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2000 16:50 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Berry Federation Picnic 2001 Mary I just remembered that my sister-in-law is from Jaspers Brush and her family has a long association with Berry and the Methodist church - (their name is Thompson and they owned a dairy farm) I'll forward your email to her. By the way, I was doing some family research at lunchtime on a fairly remote twig (as you do!) My first cousin twice removed (thats what the database says), Bertha Daisy Court, married Norman Henry Rendall in the 1900s. I haven't followed up his family yet, but when I was looking in the deaths index, saw a couple of Rendalls from Nowra and Berry. Do you know of any Rendalls in Berry? I don't remember any. Bertha would have been from either the Central Coast or Sydney, Norman's parents were Henry and Sophia. Regards Leith Davis Adelaide -----Original Message----- From: Mary Lidbetter [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2000 16:18 To: [email protected] Subject: Berry Federation Picnic 2001 I would like to thank all those people who have contacted me in regars to the Family History Section of the Federation Picnic at Berry on 12th May 2001. Such wonderful ideas, family reuions, bringing mother to the home of her ancestors for mothers day (13 May is Mother's Day) and notifying the extended family in their Christmas mail out. Remember Programme updates at the Berry Museum Web site; www.berryhistory.org.au Mary L. Lidbetter ============================== The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp ============================== Search over 600 million names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp