Marg, Looks like you have got things moving Regards Wal ----- Original Message ----- From: margm <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:03 PM Subject: Is they anyone there > Dear Listers > > There are close to 80 subscribers to this list and I think you are > nearly all fence sitters . This could be a useful research tool for > you who have Central Coast Family roots or who are interested in > local history But its what you all make it . I have posted a few > bits and pieces and for the most part got no reaction at all . > Would you be interested in a Q & A session ?? Someone ask a > question like how did Lisarow get called Lisarow . how did Reileys > island get is name. and Davistown get named etc etc . How do you > find out how an ancestor got here ? . > > How do I find out ???? > > When did the railway arrive ? What has Gosford Library got in > the way of records and what has the CC FHS got that Gosford hasnt > and vice visa ??? And what about Tuggarah Library and the LDS > Library ?? > What info is at the Land titles Office ? NSW State Library , State > Records . Is is worth joining the SAG ? How do I get to these > places ? > Come on fence sitters make abit of noise . Introduce yourselves > There could be a 6th cuz 10 times removed that also a fence sitter > subscribed to this list but unless one of you makes a move neither > will find out > > So how about it ? > Bye > Marg Morters > NSW Central Coast Mailing List > Gosford, NSW > Australia > [email protected] > > > > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi Marg, I have no idea what the reason was for the Anson and Buff familys had for moving to the CC from the Broulee District but believe it occurred prior to the marriage of Rachael Anson to Ramos. DOCTORS: To John Anson....La Roche Judith Buff.....Dr. Benson Both John and Judith are comemmorated at the Point Frederick Cemetery as pioneers. Regards Wal ----- Original Message ----- From: margm <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 9:40 PM Subject: Re BUFF & ANSON families > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WJ & RC Towells" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 06 January 2001 04:14 > Subject: Re: > Hi Wal > > I guess there are many of us guilty for sitting on the fence, > > There are way too many on this list . Mailing lists are only as > good as people who contribute to it . Of the odd query placed only > myself and about 4 others have ever responded with a reply. > Queries and no reponce is as bad as no queries > > > > I am researching two familys who resided on the Central Coast from > about the > > mid 1850s: John Anson who lived with Judith Buff and their three > children; > > Rachael, Samuel & Thomas. I am directly descended by Thomas. > > When Judith died John married Mary McGregor. Rachael married > Charles Ramos, > > RAMOS is an interesting surname, Do you who where he came from ? > > Samuel married Annie Madden and Thomas went north and married > Margaret > > Corbett before returning to Wyee. > > Do you know what enticed them to settle in this area ? Where > abouts did they live ? > > In your docs on these families could you check and tell me what Drs > names are on any death certs ?? > I got interested in Doctors of the CC before 1900 mainly because > there is a distinct lack of info on such . Are a handful of refs in > the Brisbane Water Case books indexes where a few patients got sued > for non payment of bills > > Bye > Marg Morters > NSW Central Coast Mailing List > Gosford, NSW > Australia > [email protected] > > > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

Hi Frank Your advice regarding the Millennium is noted. PamC (BlueMountains) -----Original Message----- From: Frank Cardiff <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 3:37 PM Subject: Re Is Anyone There >>Dear Listers > >>There are close to 80 subscribers to this list and I think you are >>nearly all fence sitters. > >Dear Marg (and list) > >Here's one fence sitter who got the message. I agree that if we don't join >in we won't get very far. I am a fence sitter at present because our fence >is being replaced - as is our house. Most of my records are packed in boxes >but as soon as the great day comes when I can unpack and get going >properly, I may be able to assist, first by offering look ups etc. in some >of the books I have. > >But that's a couple of months down the track. For now, are there any >MACINTOSH users out there? I've used nothing else but I know some (other) >oldies have inherited a Mac but still don't go beyond basic word >processing. I now have an iMac which does some wonderful things just with >ClarisWorks. This may not be a "list" topic so feel free to contact me >direct for a chat. > >Many of the CCFHS members already know that I send on a list of URLs which >a friend sends to me. He gets them from the Australia List so subs to that >will already know of them. But if you want to join my list, just ask. > >And.......resulting from that list, some of us find some wonderful sites >but we can't all go through the lot and the names don't always tell the >full story. One of our CCFHS members has offered to collate and index the >most interesting pages we find and make them available at the Centre so any >of you local listers, if you find a good site, print out a page from it (or >pass on any you have printed but no longer need) and leave at the Centre. >Someone will soon make good use of it. > >Ok I am now jumping down from the fence. >Well now that Christmas got away so successfully , roll on into a very >happy New Year. > >And if you must talk about the Millennium remember there are two Ls and Two Ns. > >From >Frank Cardiff >East Gosford NSW > > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Hi Gwen, Thank you for your reply. Your info added to what I had. If you should come across any more info please advise if you will. Emannuel Charles Ramos came from Valparaise/o Chile. They moved to QLD after the birth of their 2nd child. No further info. John Anson & his son Samuel each owned 40 acre lots at Erina under the 1863 Conditional Purchase Act. Regards Wal ----- Original Message ----- From: Gwen Dundon <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 7:59 AM Subject: Anson-Buff families > > > Gosford C of E records: > > Emanuel Charles RAMOS married Rachael ANSON on 24.12.1855 with consent of > parent. Bride and groom bachelor and spinster, both signed with a cross. > Witnesses were Joseph Miller and Margaret Miller, both of Maiden Scrub. A > son John Charles was born to them on 17.9.1856 and baptised on the 26th of > the following month. The father was then a sawyer of Erina. Another son > Mathew Francis was born to them on 4.12.1858, baptised 9.1.1859, father > still a sawyer of Erina. > > There is a brief mention in "The Journals of Rev Alfred Glennie" to the fact > that he visited the Ramos home when he rode around the Erina district etc > making calls on parishioners in 1857. No more details given. > > The name sounds Spanish doesn't it? > > Gwen > > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp >

Dear Listers, There been more traffic in this list over the weekend than there been for ages. Thank you .......... However there are still close to 65 fence sitters ( Yes ,Robert youre one of them ! ) How about you ALL introduce yourselves say over the next week ?? Maybe you havent got any brick walls ? Lucky you if you havent Maybe you can share a' how I did it ' and the wall came tumbling down ?? Maybe your havent got family roots here like me ? There is still the area history that could be discussed . Possible many of you know Terrigal , but do any know why Barnhill road that is a sort tracks round the back of Terrigal from the Scenic Drive to the Lagoon is like it is ? A pretty horrendous narrow goat track. Bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

Hi fellow fence sitting listers, I agree, the holidays are over, the brickwall flattened faces have had a chance to recover, it is time to get off the fence and proceed to smack the nose against the brickwall again: It will finally crumble! I am still searching for the parents of my Grandfather, John Berry (Sawyer), born in Brisbane Waters in 1849. Their names were John Berry (Sawyer) and Jane Fletcher. Except for the birth of an elder son (Edward), I have not been able to establish any other definitive events (Births, Marriage, Deaths). With the greatly appreciated assistance of several listers and member's of the Fletcher descendants, the family of William Fletcher has been eliminated as a reference point for Jane. Is she just a figment of my imagination? A candidate for John Berry senior is reported, in a letter to the Colonial Secretary in 1847, as being in Parlous health and in need of being admitted to the infirmary. As the infirmary records may reveal the name of this person's wife, I need to locate where the infirmary was (Sydney/Gosford) and if records do exist relating to 1847 patients. This would allow me to prove/eliminate this John Berry as my ancestor. If any lister has any information relating to this subject, it will be greatly appreciated as it is becoming very frustrating for me. Regards Scott Matthews Sunshine Coast, Queensland.

Hi all Following on from Gwen's submission on 6th Jan. I am interested to know if the William JARRETT mentioned is William who married Margaret Woods in Gosford 1847. Thanks Rhonda Paine, Central Mangrove 2250 Central Coast interests - COOPER, MILLER <<While the following may not be relevant to his research, it does explain the origin of some street names at North Gosford/Wyoming, NSW. The connection of at least some of the names, about to be given, with a land subdivision company known as Excelsior has been known locally for some time, but will bear some exposure. In the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper issue of 22 September 1936 the following obituary appeared for Mr A.R. JARRETT: "Mr Alfred Richard JARRETT, who died at Leichhardt [Sydney] recently in his 99th year, was a native of Chatham, England, and came to Sydney 76 years ago. He was a resident of Leichhardt for 56 years, and lived in one cottage for 53 years. He was a ship's carpenter by trade, and on arrival here became manager for the Excelsior Building Society, one of the directors of which was his brother William JARRETT. Areas of vacant land in Drummoyne, Leichhardt and Marrickville were acquired, subdivided, and built upon by the society. A number of streets in each of the suburbs mentioned were named after the society's directors - DAY, CARY, JARRETT, THORNLEIGH and RENWICK. After the subdivisions were built upon, Mr JARRETT erected a number of hotels in the suburbs, the last being the Elswick Hotel at the top of Taverner's Hill in 1882. He is survived by four daughters, seven grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. The remains were interred in the Church of England section of the Rookwood Cemetery." [ends] NB: The Renwick named was Dr Arthur Renwick, father of Rev. A. Renwick of Gosford. He was a director of the afore-mentioned Excelsior land company which had interests in the Gosford district.>>

>Dear Listers >There are close to 80 subscribers to this list and I think you are >nearly all fence sitters. Dear Marg (and list) Here's one fence sitter who got the message. I agree that if we don't join in we won't get very far. I am a fence sitter at present because our fence is being replaced - as is our house. Most of my records are packed in boxes but as soon as the great day comes when I can unpack and get going properly, I may be able to assist, first by offering look ups etc. in some of the books I have. But that's a couple of months down the track. For now, are there any MACINTOSH users out there? I've used nothing else but I know some (other) oldies have inherited a Mac but still don't go beyond basic word processing. I now have an iMac which does some wonderful things just with ClarisWorks. This may not be a "list" topic so feel free to contact me direct for a chat. Many of the CCFHS members already know that I send on a list of URLs which a friend sends to me. He gets them from the Australia List so subs to that will already know of them. But if you want to join my list, just ask. And.......resulting from that list, some of us find some wonderful sites but we can't all go through the lot and the names don't always tell the full story. One of our CCFHS members has offered to collate and index the most interesting pages we find and make them available at the Centre so any of you local listers, if you find a good site, print out a page from it (or pass on any you have printed but no longer need) and leave at the Centre. Someone will soon make good use of it. Ok I am now jumping down from the fence. Well now that Christmas got away so successfully , roll on into a very happy New Year. And if you must talk about the Millennium remember there are two Ls and Two Ns. From Frank Cardiff East Gosford NSW

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen Dundon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 07 January 2001 07:59 Subject: Anson-Buff families > > > Gosford C of E records: > > Emanuel Charles RAMOS married Rachael ANSON on 24.12.1855 > There is a brief mention in "The Journals of Rev Alfred Glennie" to the fact > that he visited the Ramos home when he rode around the Erina district etc > making calls on parishioners in 1857. No more details given. > > The name sounds Spanish doesn't it? Morning Gwen In word association the name that leapt into mind was Jose Ramos HORTE . Use to hear alot about and from him re Timor Bye Margm > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp

Gosford C of E records: Emanuel Charles RAMOS married Rachael ANSON on 24.12.1855 with consent of parent. Bride and groom bachelor and spinster, both signed with a cross. Witnesses were Joseph Miller and Margaret Miller, both of Maiden Scrub. A son John Charles was born to them on 17.9.1856 and baptised on the 26th of the following month. The father was then a sawyer of Erina. Another son Mathew Francis was born to them on 4.12.1858, baptised 9.1.1859, father still a sawyer of Erina. There is a brief mention in "The Journals of Rev Alfred Glennie" to the fact that he visited the Ramos home when he rode around the Erina district etc making calls on parishioners in 1857. No more details given. The name sounds Spanish doesn't it? Gwen

----- Original Message ----- From: "WJ & RC Towells" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 06 January 2001 04:14 Subject: Re: Hi Wal > I guess there are many of us guilty for sitting on the fence, There are way too many on this list . Mailing lists are only as good as people who contribute to it . Of the odd query placed only myself and about 4 others have ever responded with a reply. Queries and no reponce is as bad as no queries > I am researching two familys who resided on the Central Coast from about the > mid 1850s: John Anson who lived with Judith Buff and their three children; > Rachael, Samuel & Thomas. I am directly descended by Thomas. > When Judith died John married Mary McGregor. Rachael married Charles Ramos, RAMOS is an interesting surname, Do you who where he came from ? > Samuel married Annie Madden and Thomas went north and married Margaret > Corbett before returning to Wyee. Do you know what enticed them to settle in this area ? Where abouts did they live ? In your docs on these families could you check and tell me what Drs names are on any death certs ?? I got interested in Doctors of the CC before 1900 mainly because there is a distinct lack of info on such . Are a handful of refs in the Brisbane Water Case books indexes where a few patients got sued for non payment of bills Bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

A while back Scott Matthews was enquiring about early Jarretts in the Brisbane Water district of New South Wales (Gosford area). While the following may not be relevant to his research, it does explain the origin of some street names at North Gosford/Wyoming, NSW. The connection of at least some of the names, about to be given, with a land subdivision company known as Excelsior has been known locally for some time, but will bear some exposure. In the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper issue of 22 September 1936 the following obituary appeared for Mr A.R. JARRETT: "Mr Alfred Richard JARRETT, who died at Leichhardt [Sydney] recently in his 99th year, was a native of Chatham, England, and came to Sydney 76 years ago. He was a resident of Leichhardt for 56 years, and lived in one cottage for 53 years. He was a ship's carpenter by trade, and on arrival here became manager for the Excelsior Building Society, one of the directors of which was his brother William JARRETT. Areas of vacant land in Drummoyne, Leichhardt and Marrickville were acquired, subdivided, and built upon by the society. A number of streets in each of the suburbs mentioned were named after the society's directors - DAY, CARY, JARRETT, THORNLEIGH and RENWICK. After the subdivisions were built upon, Mr JARRETT erected a number of hotels in the suburbs, the last being the Elswick Hotel at the top of Taverner's Hill in 1882. He is survived by four daughters, seven grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. The remains were interred in the Church of England section of the Rookwood Cemetery." [ends] NB: The Renwick named was Dr Arthur Renwick, father of Rev. A. Renwick of Gosford. He was a director of the afore-mentioned Excelsior land company which had interests in the Gosford district. Regards to Listers, Gwen Dundon

In the Gosford NSW district, a Norman Cross died in the Terrigal area on 19.6.1935. A Gordon Cross had an orchard at Point Clare somewhere around the cemetery/ambulance station area on the side of the hills, probably 1920s. Any connection? I have a photo of the orchard. Gwen Dundon

Hello Listers I have recently joined your list and planned to "sit on the fence" a little longer but Marg's listing has prompted to join in. Hope this listing isn't too long. My ggg grandfather William Booth was a convict transported to Tasmania in 1833 for seven years for stealing a copper tea kettle. He married Bridget Fitzpatrick in Launceston in 1843, they had 4 children (Thomas William, Jane, Myrtygh and Honora - also known as Annie) before moving to Peeks Point sometime between March 1850 and 1855. They had another son William in 1955 who died the same year. William died in 26 November 1861 and is buried at Point Frederick. In the Pioneer Families of the Brisbane Water District of NSW it listed William as having held the licence for "The Australia Hotel" at Peek's Point as well as the licence for Booth's Wharf. I am unsure of the exact location of both of these places. William's son Myrtygh Booth (also spelt as Mirtage, Mirtige and Murtage) was accidently killed by the capsizing of a Timber Truck on 24 November 1885 at Cooranbong. He was aged 40 years and left a wife (Bridget Owens) and 10 children. I would be very interested to hear from anyone researching this family. I would also like to know of any references I could look up to find out more about the hotels and their locations, photographs etc, if any cemetery records exist for Point Frederick and if there would have been any newspaper articles covering Myrtygh's accident. I have a copy of Reid's Mistake (The Story of Lake Macquarie from its Discovery until 1890) by Keith H. Clouten, where the Booth family is mentioned, and would be happy to do lookups for anyone interested in that area. Any help at all would be gratefully appreciated. Regards Ann Musgrave Griffith NSW

Hi Marg, I guess there are many of us guilty for sitting on the fence, so here goes. I am researching two familys who resided on the Central Coast from about the mid 1850s: John Anson who lived with Judith Buff and their three children; Rachael, Samuel & Thomas. I am directly descended by Thomas. When Judith died John married Mary McGregor. Rachael married Charles Ramos, Samuel married Annie Madden and Thomas went north and married Margaret Corbett before returning to Wyee. Judith's brother Samuel died in 1852. I have more comprensive info on the Buff and Anson familys and I am ever seeking more Cheers for now Wal Towells ----- Original Message ----- From: margm <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:03 PM Subject: Is they anyone there > Dear Listers > > There are close to 80 subscribers to this list and I think you are > nearly all fence sitters . This could be a useful research tool for > you who have Central Coast Family roots or who are interested in > local history But its what you all make it . I have posted a few > bits and pieces and for the most part got no reaction at all . > Would you be interested in a Q & A session ?? Someone ask a > question like how did Lisarow get called Lisarow . how did Reileys > island get is name. and Davistown get named etc etc . How do you > find out how an ancestor got here ? . > > How do I find out ???? > > When did the railway arrive ? What has Gosford Library got in > the way of records and what has the CC FHS got that Gosford hasnt > and vice visa ??? And what about Tuggarah Library and the LDS > Library ?? > What info is at the Land titles Office ? NSW State Library , State > Records . Is is worth joining the SAG ? How do I get to these > places ? > Come on fence sitters make abit of noise . Introduce yourselves > There could be a 6th cuz 10 times removed that also a fence sitter > subscribed to this list but unless one of you makes a move neither > will find out > > So how about it ? > Bye > Marg Morters > NSW Central Coast Mailing List > Gosford, NSW > Australia > [email protected] > > > > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Rowe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 05 January 2001 19:25 Subject: Re: Is they anyone there I did post these more as examples of a Q & A . I didnt anticipate answering as such > Could you please tell me if it is worth joining the SAG (and I know from you > that it means Society of Australian Genelology-)?? One of the first things to learn with any hobby or job is the language .There are quite alot of acronyms in this geneaalogy hobby and the SAG is indeed Society of Australian Genealogists whose premises are in Sydney. You give no clue to your location so dunno whether SAG would be helpful of not . If you live interstate but had alot of family roots in NSW it could be useful to be a member. But you could as well to join the gene society of which ever is the best State for you . > What type of information can we get from the SAG ? Genealocial world wide . Australia England Ireland and Scotland in particular > Do they have research facilities over the internet??? Presently their site is more of an info one about the soiciety They are slowly getting their library catalogue on line Land Titles Office.. > Do they have seperate ones in each state?? What LTO ? Of course . Land Title is a State Goverment instumentality > What type of information can be gained from them?? History of land title > Can any be accessed via the internet??? Not for NSW . There is an info web site , which I think form memory is www.lto.nsw.gov.au but you either need to go there or get someone to go there for you. . The Land records office for Victoria was going on line but dunno if this has happened yet Bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

Hi Marg SAG. Could you please tell me if it is worth joining the SAG (and I know from you that it means Society of Australian Genelology-)?? What type of information can we get from them?? Do they have research facilities over the internet??? Land Titles Office.. Do they have seperate ones in each state?? What type of information can be gained from them?? Can any be accessed via the internet??? Thank you for your help as always Regards Judy Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: "margm" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:03 PM Subject: Is they anyone there > Dear Listers > > There are close to 80 subscribers to this list and I think you are > nearly all fence sitters . This could be a useful research tool for > you who have Central Coast Family roots or who are interested in > local history But its what you all make it . I have posted a few > bits and pieces and for the most part got no reaction at all . > Would you be interested in a Q & A session ?? Someone ask a > question like how did Lisarow get called Lisarow . how did Reileys > island get is name. and Davistown get named etc etc . How do you > find out how an ancestor got here ? . > > How do I find out ???? > > When did the railway arrive ? What has Gosford Library got in > the way of records and what has the CC FHS got that Gosford hasnt > and vice visa ??? And what about Tuggarah Library and the LDS > Library ?? > What info is at the Land titles Office ? NSW State Library , State > Records . Is is worth joining the SAG ? How do I get to these > places ? > Come on fence sitters make abit of noise . Introduce yourselves > There could be a 6th cuz 10 times removed that also a fence sitter > subscribed to this list but unless one of you makes a move neither > will find out > > So how about it ? > Bye > Marg Morters > NSW Central Coast Mailing List > Gosford, NSW > Australia > [email protected] > > > > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > >

Dear Listers A useful and very interesting site is a sort of version of www.babelfish.com Found on rootsweb this morning http://lysy2.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe This little baby translates Latin words /phrases into English So if you come across morbis cordis on a death cert , help is at hand bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected] \