Hi Listers, Gwen was correct when she said that Arthur Richard Jarrett's family probably was not relevant to my research. The Jarrett family whose history may contain a clue to solving my BERRY riddle is, I believe, the family of George Jarrett. To the best of my knowledge, the facts are as follows. George Jarrett arrived in Australia on 27th November, 1833 in the ship "Lady Nugent". He was accompanied by his wife, (Betsy) Elizabeth (nee Larkin), his step daughter Rebecca Larkin, and children, Maria, William and Ester. The family settled in the Erina area. In 1846, Ester married a Daniel Berry. The marriage did not last, with Ester leaving after a short number of years and marrying an Edward Taylor after Daniel's death in 1876. Daniel had a brother, John, who is at present, the most likely father of my Grand father, John Berry, born at Brisbane Waters in 1849. Even though it is clutching at straws, I am hoping that there just maybe some record in the Jarrett history linking John Berry to Jane Berry ?/Jane Fletcher? At the very least, I need to eliminate the possibility. Also, the Jarretts were, I believe, strongly connected to the timber industry. My grand father, John Berry, and his father, the John Berry in question, were both Sawyers and were, I believe, involved in mill management/ownership ?. I am interested in discovering if the activities of the Berrys and Jarretts were combined at any time, particularly in the Glen Innes and South East Queensland regions. If anyone has any information, which will either have a positive result to my search or get this particular monkey off my back, I will be greatly appreciative of their help. Scott Matthews Sunshine Coast, Queensland.

Hello i was wondering if someone could do a look up for me the family name i was looking for was Miller. Harry Lee m Harriett in 1860 i was looking for her parents names. Harriett was bron around 1840-41 maybe some could help me thank you [email protected] _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

In a message dated 1/10/2001 10:38:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj: berry family > Date: 1/10/2001 10:38:04 PM Pacific Standard Time > From: [email protected] (Judy Gifford) > Reply-to: [email protected] (Judy Gifford) > To: [email protected] > > Hi I see the BERRY name being mentioned so I though I'd post the ones in my family tree Descendants of Thomas BERRY 1 Thomas BERRY . +Margaret FROST b: 1850 in New South Wales, Australia m: 1873 in New South Wales, Australia, registered Scone d: 1915 in New South Wales, Australia, registered Gosford Fact 3: death registered Gosford, N.S.W. 1915 No. 7317 ..... 2 Thomas BERRY b: 1875 in New South Wales, Australia, registered Scone Fact 1: Birth registered Scone, N.S.W. 1875 No. 19292 ..... 2 William J BERRY b: 1877 in New South Wales, Australia, registered Scone Fact 1: Birth registered Scone, N.S.W. 1877 No.20310 ..... 2 Alfred BERRY b: 1879 in New South Wales, Australia, registered Scone Fact 1: Birth registered Scone, N.S.W. 1879 No. 22956 ..... 2 Rachel BERRY b: 1881 in New South Wales, Australia, registered Scone Fact 1: Birth registered Scone, N.S.W. 1881 No. 18348 ..... 2 Mary BERRY b: 1883 in New South Wales, Australia, registered Murrurundi Fact 1: Birth registered Murrurundi, N.S.W. 1883 No. 20878 ..... 2 Ellen BERRY b: 1886 in New South Wales, Australia, registered Murrurundi Fact 1: Birth registered Murrurundi, N.S.W. 1886 No.24197 ..... 2 James BERRY b: 1889 in New South Wales, Australia, registered Murrurundi Fact 1: Birth registered Murrurundi, N.S.W. 1889 No.24202 ..... 2 Elizabeth BERRY b: 1890 in New South Wales, Australia, registered Murrurundi Fact 1: Birth registered Murrurundi, N.S.W. 1890 No.23224 ..... 2 Maggie BERRY b: 1896 in New South Wales, Australia, registered Nundle Fact 1: Birth registered Nundle, N.S.W. 1896 No. 15084 Rod [email protected]

I am not sitting on the fence, but I am lurking in the background. I have family members living on the Central Coast but no family history in the district. My reason for subscribing to the ng is to offer assistance where possible by way of lookups on various lists and cds that I have. I do not advise on the group what lists etc that I have, but rather jump in when I can help. I also have a keen interest in the replies to most postings to learn a little more about this wonderful place we call home and the pioneering families that "made it all happen". Perhaps your listers would like to have a look at my Dundon webpage, there is an excellent article relating the trade of Plastering and was written by a Central Coast cousin Gene Dundon. It gives an insight to working during the depression up to the seventies. Regards, Col Dundon in Sydney. If you take your eyes off your Goals All you will see is Obstacles. www.geocities.com/oppy_au Dundon Family. www.geocities.com/schweikert_au/ Schweikert Family.

Not yet Marggm. But Im sure something will come up from those places sometime!! Darren margm wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 08 January 2001 12:44 > Subject: Re-posting:Jumping Off the Fence> Im one of > the 80 or so "fence sitters"!! Lets see if the > > grass IS greener on the other side then huh??? hahaha My surname > > interests are as follows: > > Main areas include : Nowra, Shoalhaven, Milton, > > Deniliquin , Mullimbimby, Tomerong, Terara.(NSW) > > Horsham, Natimuk > (VIC) > > Brisbane, Eumundi, > > Cooroy, Belli, Toowoomba (QLD) > > What no Gosford, Woy Woy or Wyong ?? > > Marg Morters > NSW Central Coast Mailing List > Gosford, NSW > Australia > [email protected] > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hi Daniel You mention Goldsmiths of Wyong. In my recent 'jumping off the fence' message, I mentioned the mini-migration that seems to have taken place from the north and central coast to Huskisson, where I come from. Well it just happens that another of the old families of Huskisson were/are the Goldsmiths, a family of fishermen. They always had fairly close connections with the Settrees, I'd assumed it was the fishing/boat building link but then I'd assumed our family's connection was because of being neighbours - now I assume nothing! Might there be a connection between your Wyong Goldsmiths and the Huskisson families? While we're at it, does anyone know of a family named Lenham, probably fishing? regards Leith Davis -----Original Message----- From: Daniel and Bridgette [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 11 January 2001 5:08 To: [email protected] Subject: Another fencesitter! Hi List, I am another fencesitter who watches with great interest every post throughthe list. Unfortunately I don't get a great deal of time to research my family history, although I spend as much time as I can doing so. My interests from the central coast area include: BOWCOCK [Gosford and Wyong] GOLDSMITH [Wyong]and others include BRIDGE, FERNANCE and STERNBECK I recently received a WW1 dossier for a relative which showed the home address of his family as 'Roslyn', Hill Street, Wyong. All current maps I have looked at don't show a Hill Street in Wyong. Does anybody have any idea where this street was/is, or how I might find out more about the location of the home? Thank you for your time. Regards, Daniel Hatton ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Hi List, I am another fencesitter who watches with great interest every post throughthe list. Unfortunately I don't get a great deal of time to research my family history, although I spend as much time as I can doing so. My interests from the central coast area include: BOWCOCK [Gosford and Wyong] GOLDSMITH [Wyong]and others include BRIDGE, FERNANCE and STERNBECK I recently received a WW1 dossier for a relative which showed the home address of his family as 'Roslyn', Hill Street, Wyong. All current maps I have looked at don't show a Hill Street in Wyong. Does anybody have any idea where this street was/is, or how I might find out more about the location of the home? Thank you for your time. Regards, Daniel Hatton

Hi Helen I put your enquiry on the Central Coast list but not aware of any responses . Have asked a couple of Woy Woy peninsula locals and sorry not heard of him was the answer. Suggest you try a letter to the Editor of the Central Coast Express 18 Bowen cres West Gosford 2250 bye Marg Morters Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "margm" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 05 January 2001 11:22 Subject: Re: The Villiage Poet of Umina ? > Can any CC lister help Helen with some info ?? > > And please post any answer to the list as well as to Helen . Might > just stir up some interest in Central Coast people and their history > Thanks > > MargM > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hjayd" <[email protected]> > To: "margm" <[email protected]> > Sent: 04 January 2001 22:16 > Subject: The Village Poet > > > > Hi Marg, > > > > Not sure if you can help but I have seen several of your postings > on > > AUS-CONVICTS list & noted you were on the Central Coast. > > > > I lived in Pearl Beach from 1957 to 1964. Aged 10 - 17. My parents > continued > > living there & then later at Umina until 1980. > > My father retired early from work at age 49 due to injuries from a > car > > accident and although not a heavy drinker, frequented the Ocean > Beach Hotel > > at Umina on a daily basis mainly for male company. > > Over the years he spoke of "The Village Poet" who was a 'friend' > he made at > > the hotel. The poet it seems wrote endless verse recounting the > tales he > > heard over an ale or two. Prior to my parents deaths my father > gave me some > > hand written poetry signed, "The Village Poet". Some of these > poems retold > > some fishing tales that my father had originally told about the > fishing > > trips of my older brother(a great jew-fisherman). Another is a > comical > > recount of a local who rode his bicycle daily to the Ocean Beach > Hotel, > > where he drank too much & provided entertainment in his endeavours > to get > > home. > > Unfortunately I have no record of the poets name. > > Although I would like to keep the poems relating to my family > members I am > > happy to provide photocopies to any other interested party. > > > > Do you know of anyone in your group who may know who this person > is or was? > > > > Do you know of anyone researching such a person? > > > > Many thanks > > Helen Dickinson > > Sydney > > > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/

Good morning everyone I first introduced myself some weeks ago however have decided to do so again. I am researching Rachel and Samuel Coulter, both convicts, who married in Brisbane Waters in 1841. They had six children: Edwin b.1842 d. 1926 m. Catherine (Kate) Gorman 1863 Mary Ann b. 1844 m. Joseph Stevens 1860/1863 Samuel Coulter b. 1846 m. Elizabeth Gorman 1865 Charles (Henry) Coulter b. 1848 d. 1924 m. (?) Lydia (Sarah) Piper m. Maria Farinden (Hicks) 1881 Rachel Coulter b. 1852 d. 1884 m. John Rippon 1871 Sarah Ellen b. 1854 d. 1933 m. Patrick Murray 1872 Any information would be appreciated. Likewise if I am able to help anyone please ask. [email protected] Pam Clarke (nee Coulter) Blaxland 2774 -----Original Message----- From: margm <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 6:45 PM Subject: There is someone there ! Well how about that

Goodmorning Darren I am researching Joseph Stevens who married Mary Ann Coulter in Sydney in 1860/63. Mary Ann Coulter was the first daughter on Rachel and Samuel Coulter of Brisbane Waters. Joseph was born in Boston (?) Ma. USA and died in St Leonards, NSW on 23 May 1883, aged 48 years. He is buried in St Thomas, North Sydney. Any connections with your Stevens ? Pam Clarke (nee Coulter) Blue Mountains, NSW -----Original Message----- From: Darren <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, January 08, 2001 12:51 PM Subject: Re-posting:Jumping Off the Fence >Dear List, > Im one of the 80 or so "fence sitters"!! Lets see if the >grass IS greener on the other side then huh??? hahaha My surname >interests are as follows: > >Buchanan,Colyer,Hird,Madden,Maddy,Stevens,Stokes,Warburton,Wilkins. > > Main areas include : Nowra, Shoalhaven, Milton, >Deniliquin , Mullimbimby, Tomerong, Terara.(NSW) > Horsham, Natimuk (VIC) > Brisbane, Eumundi, >Cooroy, Belli, Toowoomba (QLD) > Hope someone out there is on the same path!!! >:o) > > Regards, > Darren Stevens > Brisbane, QLD. > > > > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 08 January 2001 12:44 Subject: Re-posting:Jumping Off the Fence> Im one of the 80 or so "fence sitters"!! Lets see if the > grass IS greener on the other side then huh??? hahaha My surname > interests are as follows: > Main areas include : Nowra, Shoalhaven, Milton, > Deniliquin , Mullimbimby, Tomerong, Terara.(NSW) > Horsham, Natimuk (VIC) > Brisbane, Eumundi, > Cooroy, Belli, Toowoomba (QLD) What no Gosford, Woy Woy or Wyong ?? Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Armstrong - Business Manager - Product Sales" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 08 January 2001 09:30 Subject: Re: SAG > > I'd like to just add a bit about SAG and encourage researchers to at > least visit them, if not join. hi David I agree Have been a member for a few years bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

----- Original Message ----- From: "WJ & RC Towells" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 07 January 2001 20:51 Subject: Re: Re BUFF & ANSON families > > DOCTORS: To John Anson....La Roche Havent come across his name before . When was this ? > Judith Buff.....Dr. Benson Dr BENSON had the memorable first name of Barker :-) Find it hard to picture a tiny baby named Barker . When did she die ? Thanks Bye Marg Morters Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia

Morning Gwen > Someone (was it you?) was asking about the squiggly tracks at Terrigal. That was an example I used in an example question about the history of the CC > asked Liz Parkison of Terrigal Net Internet Service who has for a long time > been working on a book about that place. Her reply was: > > "For a number of decades in the 1800's, prior to the Davis family being > here, > Terrigal was in the hands of absent mortagees. Wild cattle roamed > everywhere, and > their tracks became the major roads!" Thats one of the theories. Other is the surveyor didnt leave his office and marked the roads on a map without knowing the topography ( urban myth ?? ) > Anyway looks like I have stirred up the pot abit .......... bye Marg Morters NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]

Hi Darren, I have a reli Samuel Anson who married an Annie Madden at Brisbane Water. Do you think we may have a connection? Regards Wal ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 12:44 PM Subject: Re-posting:Jumping Off the Fence > Dear List, > Im one of the 80 or so "fence sitters"!! Lets see if the > grass IS greener on the other side then huh??? hahaha My surname > interests are as follows: > > Buchanan,Colyer,Hird,Madden,Maddy,Stevens,Stokes,Warburton,Wilkins. > > Main areas include : Nowra, Shoalhaven, Milton, > Deniliquin , Mullimbimby, Tomerong, Terara.(NSW) > Horsham, Natimuk (VIC) > Brisbane, Eumundi, > Cooroy, Belli, Toowoomba (QLD) > Hope someone out there is on the same path!!! > :o) > > Regards, > Darren Stevens > Brisbane, QLD. > > > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Hi Gwen, You are quite right. The Baptism entries confirm Edwards birthdate as 1st Aug. 1848 with John & Jane Berry as parents. John's Birthdate is listed as 1st May 1849 with John Berry & Jane Fletcher as parents. Just to make it interesting, John Jnr's marriage certificate (1875) lists his mother as Elizabeth Murund ?. I have not been able to find any trace of anyone of them as yet. Does the source that you accessed give any clue as to John Berry's history. For example, is there any chance that he is John Berry the ex convict who had a brother Daniel living in the Brisbane Waters district at the time. Do you think that the Glennie journals would be likely to give me any leads on either the family/births or the lead up to the infirmary admission request. If yes. where would I be likely to get access to them. Thanks for the help Regards Scott Matthews

I'm jumping off as well.... I have the opposite problem to Marg - my family came from the Central Coast but our twig is now on the south coast and I now live in Adelaide! Central Coast interests: Edward Davis and Lydia Piper were my gg grandparents. I'm presently trying to trace their descendants. Is anyone looking for HALLIDAY or PICKETT? I'm also interested in finding out how the Dents, the Settrees, and Edward (2) Davis all ended up at Jervis Bay. I think I have the beginnings of an answer tucked away in the fine print of Gwen's ship book. The answer for Edward(2) is probably not so tucked away in a lurid Sydney tabloid somewhere - his wife, Mary Laurie, divorced him in the early 1900s. Eventually I'm hoping to pull together all the strands and relate them to the development of the timber industry in NSW but that is the grand plan that has to wait a while. Areas: North Coast: Davis, Laurie South Coast (Jervis Bay area, Tomerong, Milton): Davis, Hoffmann, Ellmoos, McGuire, Suffolk (I'll be contacting Darren off list - I thought I was related to EVERYONE who comes from Tomerong) Balmain: Piper, Davis etc Sydney: Bates, Boulton, Kilpatrick (on my mother's side but some of the Bates and Boultons were whalers so I'm going to look closely for connections to the shipbuilding etc) thats about it for now regards Leith Davis Adelaide -----Original Message----- From: Darren [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 8 January 2001 12:14 To: [email protected] Subject: Re-posting:Jumping Off the Fence Dear List, Im one of the 80 or so "fence sitters"!! Lets see if the grass IS greener on the other side then huh??? hahaha My surname interests are as follows: Buchanan,Colyer,Hird,Madden,Maddy,Stevens,Stokes,Warburton,Wilkins. Main areas include : Nowra, Shoalhaven, Milton, Deniliquin , Mullimbimby, Tomerong, Terara.(NSW) Horsham, Natimuk (VIC) Brisbane, Eumundi, Cooroy, Belli, Toowoomba (QLD) Hope someone out there is on the same path!!! :o) Regards, Darren Stevens Brisbane, QLD. ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Dear List, Im one of the 80 or so "fence sitters"!! Lets see if the grass IS greener on the other side then huh??? hahaha My surname interests are as follows: Buchanan,Colyer,Hird,Madden,Maddy,Stevens,Stokes,Warburton,Wilkins. Main areas include : Nowra, Shoalhaven, Milton, Deniliquin , Mullimbimby, Tomerong, Terara.(NSW) Horsham, Natimuk (VIC) Brisbane, Eumundi, Cooroy, Belli, Toowoomba (QLD) Hope someone out there is on the same path!!! :o) Regards, Darren Stevens Brisbane, QLD.

I'd like to just add a bit about SAG and encourage researchers to at least visit them, if not join. While they have all of the films and fiche you find in most public libraries these days (plus more), they have an excellent collection of books, family histories, local study group newsletters and much more. They also have large collections which have been donated to them, such as card index files and so on. I have found heaps of material relating to various branches of my tree. Note there are 2 buildings, one for Australia and the other for overseas collections. Both are in Kent St in the city. The volunteers on duty are also extremely helpful and knowledgeable. cheers David > Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 02:55:04 -0800 > X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Fri Jan 5 02:55:03 2001 > From: "margm" <[email protected]> > Old-To: <[email protected]> > Old-Cc: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re:Answers > Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:45:01 +1100 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 > Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Resent-From: [email protected] > X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/214 > X-Loop: [email protected] > Resent-Sender: [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Rowe" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 05 January 2001 19:25 > Subject: Re: Is they anyone there > > > I did post these more as examples of a Q & A . I didnt > anticipate answering as such > > > Could you please tell me if it is worth joining the SAG (and I > know from you > > that it means Society of Australian Genelology-)?? > One of the first things to learn with any hobby or job is the > language .There are quite alot of acronyms in this geneaalogy hobby > and the SAG is indeed Society of Australian Genealogists whose > premises are in Sydney. You give no clue to your location so dunno > whether SAG would be helpful of not . If you live interstate but had > alot of family roots in NSW it could be useful to be a member. But > you could as well to join the gene society of which ever is the best > State for you . > > What type of information can we get from the SAG ? > > Genealocial world wide . Australia England Ireland and Scotland in > particular > > Do they have research facilities over the internet??? > > Presently their site is more of an info one about the soiciety They > are slowly getting their library catalogue on line > > Land Titles Office.. > > Do they have seperate ones in each state?? > > What LTO ? Of course . Land Title is a State Goverment > instumentality > > > What type of information can be gained from them?? > > History of land title > > > Can any be accessed via the internet??? > > Not for NSW . There is an info web site , which I think form memory > is > > www.lto.nsw.gov.au > > but you either need to go there or get someone to go there for you. > > . The Land records office for Victoria was going on line but dunno > if this has happened yet > Bye > Marg Morters > NSW Central Coast Mailing List > Gosford, NSW > Australia > [email protected] > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Blyth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 07 January 2001 21:25 Subject: blyth surname > > My name is Jenny Blyth i havefound some info about my Blyth family but > thougth my Great Great Mother Lilly Garland Hi Jenny > > 1.Benjain m Rebecca Lee > > 2 HernyBroughamR Lee 1838-1883 in Newtown nsw m 1860 Harriett Miller > > 3 Lousia 1851-1932 m 1876 Herny Garland d 1906 > > 4 Lilly Charlotte m 1906 Herny Blyth d 1938 > > 5 Alexander Blyth 1907-1975 m 1938 Endia Jamieson 1909-1982 Which of these families have roots in the Central Coast of NSW ? I noticed you also cross posted to the AUS -NSW -SE list This Central Coast List is for people with family roots in this area and/or interested in its history If you dont know where they lived then you should use GENANZ/ soc genealogy.australia+nz bye Marg Morters List Owner NSW Central Coast Mailing List Gosford, NSW Australia [email protected]