Hi list, I have a g g uncle, Frederick Charles White Fitzpatrick ( b. 1820, Winchester, England) and i am trying to figure out the possible reasons for the inclusion of White as a middle name . I assumed it was a surname linked to the father or mother's family. Frederick's father was irish, his mother english. The 'Charles' is his paternal grandfathers name, and my thought is that the White may be connected to the mother's family. I do have Frederick's neice living as a governess in 1881 with a White family in Brighton, Sussex - this may be mere coincidence but... Neither the paternal grandmother ( maiden name Purcell), the maternal grandfather (surname Woolls) or grandmother ( maiden name Bryan), fits the bill. Does anyone have any thoughts on other possibilities? Cheers Sue

My fathers name was George Martin Wheatley Gwynne... His father was born in Australia, his mother came from UK The "Wheatley" was his maternal grandmother's maiden surname I thought it was a lovely tradition, tis a pity my own parents didn't carry it on Cheers Chris Pycroft (nee GWYNNE) Port Augusta SA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne England" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:24 AM Subject: [AUS-NSW] tradition - middle names > Hi list, > > I have a g g uncle, Frederick Charles White Fitzpatrick ( b. 1820, > Winchester, England) and i am trying to figure out the possible reasons > for the inclusion of White as a middle name . I assumed it was a surname > linked to the father or mother's family. > > Frederick's father was irish, his mother english. The 'Charles' is his > paternal grandfathers name, and my thought is that the White may be > connected to the mother's family. I do have Frederick's neice living as > a governess in 1881 with a White family in Brighton, Sussex - this may > be mere coincidence but... > > Neither the paternal grandmother ( maiden name Purcell), the maternal > grandfather (surname Woolls) or grandmother ( maiden name Bryan), fits > the bill. > > Does anyone have any thoughts on other possibilities? > > Cheers > > Sue > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5346 - Release Date: 10/21/12 >

Hi Sue, You've given the paternal side of the family, but have you looked at the maternal names? The surname is the most obvious choice but you may need to go back further generations than just his mother if its a family name handed down (eg, I have Gervase as a Christian name on my tree that went back to the 1700s to find when the surname first came onto the tree). I also have names that relate to the names of vessels the family arrived on into Australia, towns and villages they lived and so on, so it may not be a surname at all but has some obscure meaning only known to them. Good luck, Trish Nowra NSW > I have a g g uncle, Frederick Charles White Fitzpatrick ( b. 1820, > Winchester, England) and i am trying to figure out the possible reasons > for the inclusion of White as a middle name . I assumed it was a surname > linked to the father or mother's family. > Sue