Hi Jo, I am heading down to our gene Rooms today & I will go onto Ancestry & try to send a message to one of the entries. Now that I know exactly where Portsmouth came from I can order a film. Many thanks for your persistence with my calls. I have given Gunning area a good search, I found Sarah's headstone in Gunning it is very old & the grave has sunk in one corner & no mention of John being buried with her. Ann. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: AUS-NSW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 39 Today's Topics: 1. Re: AUS-NSW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 37 (Jo Conray) 2. samuel wright (Richie Wright) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:21:44 +1000 From: "Jo Conray" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] AUS-NSW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 37 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Ann The information I sent was from Ancestry from the Robinson family tree who said that John was born in Potsmouth. So I had a look on Familysearch.org to see if he was there and it was a bit confusing as the Birthplace might be Potsmouth, but the district or parish are listed as Potsea & Landport and Kingstone & East Southsea.I would think that would make it a big area to search if you did not know who his parents. **This note was from the Robinson F/Tree Jane was born before her parents were married. On her birth certificate it states that her father John Robinson's native place was Portsmouth. The nurse witness to the marriage was Mary Niblett.** Note If you go by the son John Marriages Certificate that John was still alive on the day of the marriage 22 Dec 1897 and them going by son Samuel Marriage cert. He had pass away by 7 Dec 1898 so you have a year to search. Note This is what was written on the Robinson F/tree ***At the time of John's marriage to Elizabeth Hillier in December 1897, John Robinson Senior was described on the marriage certificate as being a farmer, so was still living at that date. ***At the time of Samuel Robinson's marriage to Johannah Merriman in Dec 1898, the marriage certificate states that his father John Robinson was deceased** There are about 4 or 5 family trees but the other one I looked at is The Young Family Tree, who said that John was born in England c1830 and died 1874 Gunning. NSW but this must be incorrect. Good Luck Josephine Qld -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013 3:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] AUS-NSW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 37 Hi Jo, Thanks for all your help but I would like to know where you found your info on all the details of the family that you sent. Where does it say John is from Portsmouth??? Is it a certificate that says John was deceased when Samuel was married. I have the Marriage certificate of John & Elizabeth & it shows John & Sarah are both alive. i didn't know some of the other details of the family so it is good to have these, thanks so much. I have received scanned images from Trove but there are no new leads on John as to where he may have died or anything else. So I am back to square one. I may get a film in from the Mormans on Portsmouth & see if I can find his baptism I guess this is the next thing to do. has anyone else out there done this? Better go Ann. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: AUS-NSW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 37 Today's Topics: 1. Re: photocopies ([email protected]) 2. Re: photocopies (symonds3) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 19:38:30 +1100 From: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] photocopies To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original hello to all, I have just found the info of how to order photocopies of info found on a film at the Mormans. Its funny that this info has come up just now. I sent off my request today before reading the list but thanks to Robyn I left off my full details so I will now go in with an id number & leave my details. I look forward to a reply. I am enjoying the info that keeps coming through this site, keep up the great work. Another request, where would I look for a Buriel of a family member who died at Coffs Harbour in 1973. Many thanks Ann. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: AUS-NSW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 34 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Family History Change in Policy for Photocopies (irook) 2. Re: Registry Office of WA (Hazel Magann) 3. Burials 1866 in Sydney area (Joan Birtles) 4. Re: Registry Office of WA (symonds3) 5. Re: Burials 1866 in Sydney area (symonds3) 6. Re: Burials 1866 in Sydney area (Joan Birtles) 7. Re: Burials 1866 in Sydney area (Nivard Ovington) 8. Re: Burials 1866 in Sydney area (jandbgrant) 9. Re: Burials 1866 in Sydney area (Joan Birtles) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:54:23 +1100 From: "irook" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Family History Change in Policy for Photocopies To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thankyou Jill and Nivard for your replies. Robyn -----Original Message----- From: Jill Glover Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Family History Change in Policy for Photocopies Hi Robyn, You wrote >>> Please excuse my ignorance but I can't quite grasp the criteria for requesting photocopies. Does this mean if we find a record of a baptism etc in a film or book we have requested at our local family history centre then we can order a copy? I am assuming it doesn't mean records found atfamilysearch.org.<<< Robyn, I sent off a request for a record I found on familysearch.org....hadn't heard anything until today, when I had a note to say: " We cannot process your request without a full name, address and telephone with EACH request you make. Please supply us that information. Also, please go to the internet at: familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services to access the procedure for submitting requests. Thank you." I've had a look at the very helpful pages from the wiki, and went to the catalogue, but none of the film numbers I put in had been digitised.....as yet!!! This is an interesting paragraph... " If you go to familysearch.org, click on "Catalog" and enter the film or book number, you can check to see if it is digitized. If so, you can print off your own copies. If the film or book has been digitized, we will not fill a request as you can do this on your own." Hope this helps, looks like it's going to get easier to obtain records.....and they are free. Cheers, Jill Brisbane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:20:25 +1100 From: "Hazel Magann" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Registry Office of WA To: "Australia" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Good afternoon Can anyone help me with the years covered for Birth, Death and Marriages on the WA Registry Office. Thank you Hazel in Blacktown NSW. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:22:54 +1100 From: "Joan Birtles" <[email protected]> Subject: [AUS-NSW] Burials 1866 in Sydney area To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello I am searching for the burial of a John LOGAN who died at Kent St Sydney 26 Oct 1866 as shown from his funeral notices in TROVE, however I cannot find his burial place as this was not shown. As Rookwood did not begin until 1867, where could John LOGAN be buried please? His wife and 2 sons are buried at Rookwood, but they died much later. Thank you Joan ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:34:51 +1100 From: "symonds3" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Registry Office of WA To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Hazel, WA BMD online indexes - http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx Click onto the circle next to the category you want to begin the search. Births 1841-1932 Deaths 1841-1971 Marriages 1841-1936 Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Good afternoon > Can anyone help me with the years covered for Birth, Death and Marriages > on the WA Registry Office. > Hazel in Blacktown NSW. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:47:11 +1100 From: "symonds3" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Burials 1866 in Sydney area To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Joan, It was too early for Waverley and Eastern Suburbs as well. Maybe Devonshire Street? http://users.tpg.com.au/shammell/old-bury.htm http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archive s-in-brief/archives-in-brief-69 http://www.esmp.net.au/cemetery/pioneer-memorial-park.aspx Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > I am searching for the burial of a John LOGAN who died at Kent St Sydney > 26 > Oct 1866 as shown from his funeral notices in TROVE, however I cannot find > his burial place as this was not shown. > As Rookwood did not begin until 1867, where could John LOGAN be buried > please? His wife and 2 sons are buried at Rookwood, but they died much > later. > Joan ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:29:55 +1100 From: "Joan Birtles" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Burials 1866 in Sydney area To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Trish Many thanks for all those sites, have bookmarked them all now. Cheers Joan Hi Joan, It was too early for Waverley and Eastern Suburbs as well. Maybe Devonshire Street? http://users.tpg.com.au/shammell/old-bury.htm http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archive s-in-brief/archives-in-brief-69 http://www.esmp.net.au/cemetery/pioneer-memorial-park.aspx Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > I am searching for the burial of a John LOGAN who died at Kent St Sydney > 26 > Oct 1866 as shown from his funeral notices in TROVE, however I cannot find > his burial place as this was not shown. > As Rookwood did not begin until 1867, where could John LOGAN be buried > please? His wife and 2 sons are buried at Rookwood, but they died much > later. > Joan ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:20:13 +0000 From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Burials 1866 in Sydney area To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Joan Not sure it helps or hinders but there is the following (from Ancestry) Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about John Logan Name: John Logan Death Date: 1866 Death Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1866 Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales Registration number: 1300 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Original data: Compiled from publicly available sources. ========== And also from Ancestry Sydney City Coroner register of inquests and inquiries October 1866 27th John LOGAN aged 36 years died on the 25th instant at Sydney from the effects of a wound in the right arm ????? by the deceased forcing his arm through a frame? (pane?) of glass whilst labouring under temporary excitement Dr? ?? Adolph WILKE Cr(blot) Star of Peace Hotel Kent St 1 mile Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/02/2013 04:22, Joan Birtles wrote: > Hello > > > > I am searching for the burial of a John LOGAN who died at Kent St Sydney > 26 > Oct 1866 as shown from his funeral notices in TROVE, however I cannot find > his burial place as this was not shown. > > > > As Rookwood did not begin until 1867, where could John LOGAN be buried > please? His wife and 2 sons are buried at Rookwood, but they died much > later. > > > > Thank you > > Joan ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:37:45 +1000 From: "jandbgrant" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Burials 1866 in Sydney area To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Joan I notice that John was buried by Thomas Dixon Undertakers. Unfortunately these early records do not appear to have survived - I have the email of a relative who was collecting information on burials by Thomas Dixon with the goal of putting the information into a database. Perhaps she may be able to help you further. If you would like to contact me off list I will give you the details. Regards Jan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joan Birtles Sent: Saturday, 16 February 2013 2:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-NSW] Burials 1866 in Sydney area Hello I am searching for the burial of a John LOGAN who died at Kent St Sydney 26 Oct 1866 as shown from his funeral notices in TROVE, however I cannot find his burial place as this was not shown. As Rookwood did not begin until 1867, where could John LOGAN be buried please? His wife and 2 sons are buried at Rookwood, but they died much later. Thank you Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:54:43 +1100 From: "Joan Birtles" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Burials 1866 in Sydney area To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Nivard I did have John's death record and info from Trove, but the info from the Sydney City Coroner register of Inquests is terrific as the family had stories re his death re the wound in his arm, but nothing verified. Thank you Joan Hi Joan Not sure it helps or hinders but there is the following (from Ancestry) Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about John Logan Name: John Logan Death Date: 1866 Death Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1866 Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales Registration number: 1300 Source Information: Ancestry.com. Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Original data: Compiled from publicly available sources. ========== And also from Ancestry Sydney City Coroner register of inquests and inquiries October 1866 27th John LOGAN aged 36 years died on the 25th instant at Sydney from the effects of a wound in the right arm ????? by the deceased forcing his arm through a frame? (pane?) of glass whilst labouring under temporary excitement Dr? ?? Adolph WILKE Cr(blot) Star of Peace Hotel Kent St 1 mile Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ------------------------------ To contact the AUS-NSW list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the AUS-NSW mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AUS-NSW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 34 ************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:14:14 +1100 From: "symonds3" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] photocopies To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Ann, Both Coffs Harbour Historic and Coffs Harbour Lawn Cemeteries are online - http://austcemindex.com/inscriptions.php Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Another request, where would I look for a Buriel of a family member who > died at Coffs Harbour in 1973. > Many thanks Ann. ------------------------------ To contact the AUS-NSW list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the AUS-NSW mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AUS-NSW Digest, Vol 8, Issue 37 ************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:31:55 +1000 From: "Richie Wright" <[email protected]> Subject: [AUS-NSW] samuel wright To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have posted these extracts from trove hoping to find some astute person who may be able to help me in tracking down further info The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Friday 15 October 1915, page 4 IN THE SUPREME COURT OE NEW SOUTH WALES - Probate Jurisdiction - In the Will of ANN KENT, late of Granville, in the State of New South Wales, Married Woman, deceased Application will be made after fourteen days from the publication hereof hat Probate of the last Will of the above named deceased may be granted to SAMUEL WRIGHT, the Executor named in the said Will, and all notices are to be served at the undermentioned address SAMUEL WRIGHT, Second Avenue. Lidcombe. Sydney and New South Wales, Sands Street Index, 1861-1930 1920 Samuel Wright noted as living at Walters Road off the East side of Second Avenue, Lidcombe The Cumberland Argus and Fruitgrowers Advocate (Parramatta, NSW : 1888 - 1950) Saturday 30 August 1919, page 12 SATURDAY, AUGUST 30th, at 2.30 p.m. IMPORTANT UNRESERVED AUCTION SALE, on behalf of Mrs. S. Wright, Second Avenud, Lidcombe. Samuel wright b 1865 albury nsw m caroline Minnie restall 1902 townsville qld Samuel died 1919 nsw as a poultry farmer 1908 samuel & caroline were storekeepers in Richmond qld 1914 - 1919 samuel shows up as a poultry farmer in second avenue nsw I have tracked down ann kent nee Mitchell m Thomas kent 15/6/1840 nsw As anyone got further info in relation to ann kent How do go about trying to find where samuels farm was actually located I have looked on google earth & wondering with the references to walters road & second avenue if it was not on the cnr of both Can this be tracked down on an old map so I can ascertain when Samuel started this new venture Any help would be much appreciated Richie in a very hot & humid bowen nth qld ------------------------------ To contact the AUS-NSW list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the AUS-NSW mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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