Hello Elaine Thank you for your reply. I am aware of the information that you posted but I could not find records that gave his age e.g. TOl etc. The following is the reply that I received from a researcher at my local Family History Group for my question to the list. " All accurate, children were expected to be baptised within 60 days of birth, but often 1 year or more old. The Julian calendar only effects events January to March so 1763 is the year. Edward was actually 75 years 2 months and about 19 days. They would term in those days that a person was in his or hers XX year so Edward was in his 76th year. I consider it acceptable for a age being 1-3 years out as many peoples maths was not good or they did not know the age at death, also the problem that convicts would fudge details to make it harder to track their origin. Edward does not appear to have done this and has carried on the family names." Regards Allan -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Hanford [mailto:ejhanford@att.net] Sent: Sunday, 14 December 2014 12:34 To: Allan Murphy; aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Birth of Edward MERRICK (MEYRICK) Allan, a few bits of information: Unfortunately, the Old Bailey Proceedings do not give much help as to his age or birth place. 1828 NSW Census - Richmond district Edward Merrick 65 - transported on Surprise in 1790 sentence 7 years - farmer Mary Merrick 63 - transported on Mary Ann 1791 sentence 7 years Susannah Merrick 16 born in Colony Elizabeth Merrick 11 born in Colony NSW COLONIAL SECRETARY'S PAPERS Edward Merrick 1802 Apr 10 Particulars of arms in possession of (Reel 6041; 4/1719 p.94) Edward Merrick 12 Sep 1812 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond Permitted to draw cattle from the Government Herds on credit; appears as Meyrick Edward Merrick Feb 1810 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond Memorial for confirmation of grant Edward Merrick 30 Jun 1824 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond Memorial Edward Merrick 19 Feb 1825 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond Memorials for a ticket of occupation and to be victualled from the Stores Edward Merrick Jun 1825 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond Memorials for a ticket of occupation and to be victualled from the Stores Edward Merrick 30 Aug 1825 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond Memorials for a ticket of occupation and to be victualled from the Stores Edward Merrick 12 Jun 1811 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond On list of persons to receive grants of land in different parts of the Colony as soon as they can be measured; at Kurry Jong. Listed as Meyrick Edward Merrick 1 Aug 1799 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond On list of all grants and leases of land registered in the Colonial Secretary's Office Edward Merrick 5 Jul 1825 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond District Constable at Richmond. On return of constables in the town of Windsor and districts of Hawkesbury Edward Merrick 28 Apr 1825 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond Replies Edward Merrick 1 Jul 1825 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond Replies Edward Merrick 14 Dec 1825 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond Replies Edward Merrick 23-21 Sep-Oct 1822 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond John Brown and others convicted by the Court of Criminal Jurisdiction of assault on Edward Merrick 12 Sep 1812 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond Permitted to draw cattle from the Government Herds on credit; appears as Meyrick Edward Merrick 28 Mar 1822 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond Appointed constable at Richmond Edward Merrick 27 Apr 1820 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond Constable & poundkeeper on north side of river in Richmond district Edward Merrick 11 Aug 1823 Per "Surprise", 1790; constable and landholder at Richmond District Constable, Richmond. Re matter of his negligence in allowing Isaac Sampson, assigned servant of James Simmons, to remain improperly at large You might also want to review the following websites: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/e/l/Lynne-Selden/WEBSITE-0001/U HP-0035.html http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MERRICK/2007-01/1168047410 Good luck with your search... Elaine TAS Descendant in Reno Nevada -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 12/13/14, Allan Murphy via <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> wrote: Subject: [AUS-NSW] Birth of Edward MERRICK (MEYRICK) To: aus-convicts@rootsweb.com, aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com, aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com, aus-nsw@rootsweb.com, aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2014, 3:14 PM Dear members I am cross posting to various lists in the hope of someone may assist me in finding the date of Birth of Edward MERRICK or MEYRICK who arrived in 1790 on the Suprize or Surprise. 1. Edward died on the 9th February 1839 at the age of 76. Source NSW BDMs 858/1839 V1839858 157, 976/1839 V1839976 23A 2. An Edward, son of John and Susannah MERRICK, was born on the 21st November was baptised on 3 December 1763 at St James Clerkenwell in the County of Middlesex. Source Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1812. London, England: London Metropolitan Archives. This is my question, is the Edward who died in 1839 the same Edward who was born in 1763? If Edward was 76 as stated at the time of his death then he was born during the period 10th February 1762 to the 9 th of February1763. The above Edward who was born in 1763 would 75 years old in February 1839. The Edward who died in 1839 and arrived in 1790 was tried in 1788 at Middlesex, this is the same county where an Edward MERRICK was baptised. I believe that they could be the same person but the age at the time of death should be 75. If not I will have to do more searching. 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