Thanks so much for that. I have added to the information available on that wonderful Pioneers site. Edward was born in Dudley Worcs. in 1843 to a seriously wealthy family. I am wondering if he came out at the same time as my g g grandfather in 1873, with other Smith rellies and 9 STS families heding for the Ironworl\ks at Nattai. G G grandfather hopeful of having as much success as his uncle Richard had in Canada. I will check that passenger list. Thanks Trish. Gloria