Thanks so much for that Terry. He has obviously left England after 1866. He was b. in 1843....well qualified for a 23 year old. Found him in Dudley in 1871. He probably came out ( paying his own way) a couple of years at least before his son was born in 1878. He was born in Sydney, so this is probably where Edward married. I just cannot fathom why there is no record of him until he goes to Cowra in the 1880's. Thanks again. Gloria