Flogged those Sedgley sites and Lists to death, thanks. They are a wonderful group of people. I have nearly everything about all my Smiths who came from the Sedgley/Coseley/Dudley areas of the 'Black Country', but Edward Roberts Smith info on his return fromAustralia remains a mystery...even the census show nought. but I really also want to know more about Amy de Courcey...and the time both spent in Carcoar. I will post a query to the Orange site Thanks so much . Gloria