Ian,I have reviewed the John Vanner listings for 1863 and following years.  The "IS" is a transcription error which is evident by viewing the SCAN image of the original document at “Mariners and Ships in Australian Waters”.   "OS" represents "Ordinary Seaman" which is an apprentice position that provides training toward becoming an "Able Seaman" -- OS is an unlicensed position with job descriptions listed at:http://www.seamanjobsite.com/profile_item-6/Ordinary-Seaman.html  https://sealiftcommand.com/payscales/ordinary-seaman/    Hope this helps...and good luck with sorting out these folks!cheers,ElaineTAS Descendant in Reno, Nevada On Friday, May 8, 2015 2:31 AM, Ian & Margaret <imkelly21@bigpond.com> wrote: Hi ElaineThanks for your email and what you have found out.  I was hoping that he would be “my” Thomas Craigie but does not look like it going by the the info you found on him re the ship “John Vanner”. I found where Thomas Craigie is listed in “Mariners and Ships in Australian Waters” with the rest of the crew when the John Vanner arrived in Sydney in 1863.  He is an “IS” in the listing of the crew.  I can’t seem to find out just what that means.  It says the ship arrived on 1 December 1863 but another source says it arrived on 23/11/63.  Trove says 23rd also but he is not mentioned in Trove.  So his offence of “Disobedience of Orders” may have occurred on the ship.  The John Vanner was wrecked at Calcutta on 30/1/1865. I was disappointed that he was not my guy as the year 1863 would have tied in with when my Thomas Craigie “disappeared” from Wentworth in NSW and, as far as I can tell, never to be heard of again.  My Thomas would have been aged 33 years at this time. Just had a thought:  There seems to be two different ages for the Thomas Craigies you found on Ancestry.  You found one where you said he was 24.  The one I found him was called “NSW Gaol Description and Entrance Book” and it had 24 a couple of columns after his name.  I think that is the date in December.  Note the rest of the numbers in that column and the month of December in the next column.  I don’t think that record really gives his age. The other record you sent that mentions the ship John Vanner has his age as 19.  Do you think that guy is the same bloke as in the aforementioned Gaol Description and Entrance Book? Perhaps I should tell you about my Thomas Craigie in case someone on the list has some suggestions where I can go next.   Thomas Craigie was born in Sunderland, Durham (near Newcastle), England on 23/8/1830 and married widow Ann Frederick at Durham in 1854.  She had previously been married to a George Elliot and they had a son, John George Elliot, in 1851.  However George Elliot died and Ann then married Thomas Craigie. Thomas and Anne and the 3 year old John George Elliot arrived in Melbourne on the immigrant ship “Parsee” in 1855.  He gave his occupation as “shipwright”.  In the Geelong paper in 1856 Ann Craigie was advertising if anyone knew the whereabouts of her husband, Thomas Craigie.  So it looks like he deserted his family. Ann gave birth to Craigie’s child, Ann Marie Craigie, in Collingwood in 1856.  She drowned in the Yarra River in Melbourne in 1873 aged 17. Ann Craigie (nee Frederick) then married George Catterson Smith in 1858 and they had two children.  They lived in Geelong.  Ann died in 1865.  I don’t really want to go further down this track.  Ann’s marriage to George C Smith would, I presume, be a bigamous one but she may have thought Thomas Craigie was dead. The next thing I have found a Thomas Craigie marrying an Annie Lawrie in Wentworth at the junction of the Murray and Darling Rivers in NSW in 1862.  He gave his age as 29 and his occupation as “shipwright”.  I think there is a good possibility he is the same guy who was married to Ann Frederick.  If so then this marriage would be a bigamous marriage. They had a child in Wentworth in 1863 and named him Thomas Craigie, the same as his father.  And then Thomas Craigie Snr. seems to have disappeared never to be heard of again.  Then the “deserted” Annie takes up with a George Kelly (can’t locate a marriage certificate) and they came to Qld in the late 1860s.  They seem to have changed young Thomas Craigie’s surname to Kelly and he eventually became my grandfather. Perhaps it was found out that Thomas Craigie Snr. was a bigamist and sent to gaol.  Would anyone know where I can find records of the Wentworth Gaol in the 1860s? I have no idea what became of the child John George Elliot who was aged 3 when the family arrived on the “Parsee” in 1855.  Did his surname become Craigie at some stage?  Did it become Smith when his mother married George C Smith in 1858? I have been trying to unravel this Craigie puzzle for years.  As I am now writing a Kelly family history book, it would be good if I could find out what happened to Thomas Craigie Snr before the book is finished.   Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank youIan KellySandstone Point  Queensland On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:49 AM, Elaine Hanford <ejhanford@att.net> wrote: In looking at the Gaol Book, it appears that he was committed at W.P.O.  (others listed as committed at C.P.O).  His age is given as 24. I tried various searches through Trove, but without success.  Since he was committed for "disobedience of orders" I would think it highly unlikely that this would have been reported in the newspapers.