Good Morning, The following may help re Conditional Purchases and the name on the parish map. http://tinyurl.com/pcm25os Regards Terry Callaghan www.terrycallaghan.com Introduction A conditional purchase (CP) may have had a number of owners before the final payment was made and all conditions satisfied as the name on the parish map is that of the person who made the final payment that may or may not be the person you are researching. So if you do not know the parish or district of your ancestor you must search all the Conditional Purchase records at Kingswood. These records are not in alphabetical order but in order of the Conditional Purchase number. This data base has sorted these records into alphabetical order. Background to Conditional Purchases. In 1863 the Legislative Assembly of New South Wales directed ‘that there be laid upon the table of this House :‐ A Tabular Return shewing the names of all persons who have purchased Land conditionally under the Land Alienation Act of 1861, to the 31st October 1863: the quantity of Land in each purchase; the 1st or 2nd class Settled Districts, or the Unsettled Districts, wherein the Land is situated; the amount of money received on each lot; the balance remaining to be received; the date when the balance of the purchase money shall be payable…’ The procedure was that each major rural centre had a Land office. The land agent would record the name of the conditional purchaser, the residence and nearest post town and the date and time of selection and record a detailed description of the property boundaries. The application would be forwarded to Sydney where it would be given a number: the first two digits would be the year received and the last four the applicant number for that year. Unfortunately for researchers from 1862 to 1874 the records are indexed according to the locality and not by name and in numerical order of the CP number. So if you find that your ancestor was farmer but you can’t find any record of him on the parish map, the Torrens Title Index, Old System Index, Vendors Index or Old Title Purchaser Index. If this is the case it means that he was a conditional purchaser who had not yet meet all the conditions for purchase. To determine the Conditional Purchase (CP) number using the records in this data base you must subtract three years from the year that the balance payment is due. For example:‐ Conditional Purchase Cond Purchase No Surname First Name Area a r p District Class Amount Recd £ s d Balance due £ s d Date Balance Due 2093 Abberton James 48.0.0 Goulburn 1st Class 12.0.0 36.0.0 8/04/1865 The CP number for James Abberton would be the year the balance payment is due minus three i.e. CP62‐2093. Using this number you then can access all the records relating to this purchase. See ‘Using Conditional purchase records. State Records NSW Archives in Brief 94. Some References. Background to Conditional purchase of Crown Land. State records of NSW Archives in Brief 93 Using Conditional purchase records. State Records NSW Archives in Brief 94 ( a must see) Baker, D.W.A. The Origins of Robertson’s Land Acts. Historical Studies Australia & New Zealand. Vol 8, Nov 1957 – May 1959 . p.166 ff Walker, R. B. Squatter and Selector in New England, 1862 – 95. Historical Studies Australia & New Zealand. Vol 8, Nov 1957 – May 1959 . p.66 ff Simpson, Archibald. Handbook of the Crown Lands Alienation Acts of NSW. 1882 Ferry, John. New South Wales Land Records and Family History. In First International Congress of Family History. 1988. Sydney. King C.J. An Outline of Closer Settlement in NSW. Part 1. The Sequence of Land Laws. 1788 – 1956. Dept. Of Agriculture. 1957 Sydney.

My apologies the table has not transferred . See the web link for a better copy. Terry -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry via Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2015 9:46 AM To: 'Suzanne England'; aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] interpreting dates on old parish maps Good Morning, The following may help re Conditional Purchases and the name on the parish map. http://tinyurl.com/pcm25os Regards Terry Callaghan www.terrycallaghan.com Introduction A conditional purchase (CP) may have had a number of owners before the final payment was made and all conditions satisfied as the name on the parish map is that of the person who made the final payment that may or may not be the person you are researching. So if you do not know the parish or district of your ancestor you must search all the Conditional Purchase records at Kingswood. These records are not in alphabetical order but in order of the Conditional Purchase number. This data base has sorted these records into alphabetical order. Background to Conditional Purchases. In 1863 the Legislative Assembly of New South Wales directed ‘that there be laid upon the table of this House :‐ A Tabular Return shewing the names of all persons who have purchased Land conditionally under the Land Alienation Act of 1861, to the 31st October 1863: the quantity of Land in each purchase; the 1st or 2nd class Settled Districts, or the Unsettled Districts, wherein the Land is situated; the amount of money received on each lot; the balance remaining to be received; the date when the balance of the purchase money shall be payable…’ The procedure was that each major rural centre had a Land office. The land agent would record the name of the conditional purchaser, the residence and nearest post town and the date and time of selection and record a detailed description of the property boundaries. The application would be forwarded to Sydney where it would be given a number: the first two digits would be the year received and the last four the applicant number for that year. Unfortunately for researchers from 1862 to 1874 the records are indexed according to the locality and not by name and in numerical order of the CP number. So if you find that your ancestor was farmer but you can’t find any record of him on the parish map, the Torrens Title Index, Old System Index, Vendors Index or Old Title Purchaser Index. If this is the case it means that he was a conditional purchaser who had not yet meet all the conditions for purchase. To determine the Conditional Purchase (CP) number using the records in this data base you must subtract three years from the year that the balance payment is due. For example:‐ Conditional Purchase Cond Purchase No Surname First Name Area a r p District Class Amount Recd £ s d Balance due £ s d Date Balance Due 2093 Abberton James 48.0.0 Goulburn 1st Class 12.0.0 36.0.0 8/04/1865 The CP number for James Abberton would be the year the balance payment is due minus three i.e. CP62‐2093. Using this number you then can access all the records relating to this purchase. See ‘Using Conditional purchase records. State Records NSW Archives in Brief 94. Some References. Background to Conditional purchase of Crown Land. State records of NSW Archives in Brief 93 Using Conditional purchase records. State Records NSW Archives in Brief 94 ( a must see) Baker, D.W.A. The Origins of Robertson’s Land Acts. Historical Studies Australia & New Zealand. Vol 8, Nov 1957 – May 1959 . p.166 ff Walker, R. B. Squatter and Selector in New England, 1862 – 95. Historical Studies Australia & New Zealand. Vol 8, Nov 1957 – May 1959 . p.66 ff Simpson, Archibald. Handbook of the Crown Lands Alienation Acts of NSW. 1882 Ferry, John. New South Wales Land Records and Family History. In First International Congress of Family History. 1988. Sydney. King C.J. An Outline of Closer Settlement in NSW. Part 1. The Sequence of Land Laws. 1788 – 1956. Dept. Of Agriculture. 1957 Sydney. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for your advice Allan and Terry - I had done some reading on the LPI website but couldn’t find the answer to my question - perhaps I need to do a closer read. And after reading your notes as well Terry, I think Allan's friends advice to actually arrange a look at the record is what it may take! I hadn’t considered that the date could relate to the time that it was able to be converted to a conditional purchase. That would certainly make more sense in this particular instance. Many thanks once again, Cheers Sue -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry via Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2015 10:56 AM To: 'Terry'; aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] interpreting dates on old parish maps My apologies the table has not transferred . See the web link for a better copy. Terry -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry via Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2015 9:46 AM To: 'Suzanne England'; aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] interpreting dates on old parish maps Good Morning, The following may help re Conditional Purchases and the name on the parish map. http://tinyurl.com/pcm25os Regards Terry Callaghan www.terrycallaghan.com Introduction A conditional purchase (CP) may have had a number of owners before the final payment was made and all conditions satisfied as the name on the parish map is that of the person who made the final payment that may or may not be the person you are researching. So if you do not know the parish or district of your ancestor you must search all the Conditional Purchase records at Kingswood. These records are not in alphabetical order but in order of the Conditional Purchase number. This data base has sorted these records into alphabetical order. Background to Conditional Purchases. In 1863 the Legislative Assembly of New South Wales directed ‘that there be laid upon the table of this House :‐ A Tabular Return shewing the names of all persons who have purchased Land conditionally under the Land Alienation Act of 1861, to the 31st October 1863: the quantity of Land in each purchase; the 1st or 2nd class Settled Districts, or the Unsettled Districts, wherein the Land is situated; the amount of money received on each lot; the balance remaining to be received; the date when the balance of the purchase money shall be payable…’ The procedure was that each major rural centre had a Land office. The land agent would record the name of the conditional purchaser, the residence and nearest post town and the date and time of selection and record a detailed description of the property boundaries. The application would be forwarded to Sydney where it would be given a number: the first two digits would be the year received and the last four the applicant number for that year. Unfortunately for researchers from 1862 to 1874 the records are indexed according to the locality and not by name and in numerical order of the CP number. So if you find that your ancestor was farmer but you can’t find any record of him on the parish map, the Torrens Title Index, Old System Index, Vendors Index or Old Title Purchaser Index. If this is the case it means that he was a conditional purchaser who had not yet meet all the conditions for purchase. To determine the Conditional Purchase (CP) number using the records in this data base you must subtract three years from the year that the balance payment is due. For example:‐ Conditional Purchase Cond Purchase No Surname First Name Area a r p District Class Amount Recd £ s d Balance due £ s d Date Balance Due 2093 Abberton James 48.0.0 Goulburn 1st Class 12.0.0 36.0.0 8/04/1865 The CP number for James Abberton would be the year the balance payment is due minus three i.e. CP62‐2093. Using this number you then can access all the records relating to this purchase. See ‘Using Conditional purchase records. State Records NSW Archives in Brief 94. Some References. Background to Conditional purchase of Crown Land. State records of NSW Archives in Brief 93 Using Conditional purchase records. State Records NSW Archives in Brief 94 ( a must see) Baker, D.W.A. The Origins of Robertson’s Land Acts. Historical Studies Australia & New Zealand. Vol 8, Nov 1957 – May 1959 . p.166 ff Walker, R. B. Squatter and Selector in New England, 1862 – 95. Historical Studies Australia & New Zealand. Vol 8, Nov 1957 – May 1959 . p.66 ff Simpson, Archibald. Handbook of the Crown Lands Alienation Acts of NSW. 1882 Ferry, John. New South Wales Land Records and Family History. In First International Congress of Family History. 1988. Sydney. King C.J. An Outline of Closer Settlement in NSW. Part 1. The Sequence of Land Laws. 1788 – 1956. Dept. Of Agriculture. 1957 Sydney. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message