Hi Ray If you go to the NSW BDM's you will come up with 3 definite children to Henry Norris and Elizabeth Ann. Not sure if that indicates they weren't married or not. The suggestion by another lister to use the transcription agents is an excellent option..Mr Turtle is going to be on leave so it might be best to look him up on the web and check. The others are Joy Murrin and Marilyn Rowan. Just google them and you will get their websites. BTW the girls may have married and not have died under the name WOODLEY. Do a check under marriages on the BDM's site. Good luck Annette in Cowra NSW