I have just returned to this list and hoping someone can help me find anything on the following. Top of my wish list is their entry into Australia. John Carlisle HUMPHREY born c 1809 Ireland (calculated from his death notice SMH April 1870) Believed to be a gardener. Married Letitia MARLIN c 1841 Ireland(calculated on the age of first child) in Bray, Ireland. UK Children: 1 - Robert born c 1841 Cork Abbey, Bray, Ireland - from death record. Married Eliza JEFFERIES 1918. 2 - Edward born - unknown - could be Bray Ireland d 1877 3 - Anne Letitia born - unknown - could be Bray, Ireland. The main family I am concentrating on is that of Robert and Eliza who had 10 children. 1 - Clara Letitia 1869 - 1896 appears not to have married. 2 - Annie E 1871-before 1918. Married Frederick CHURCHILL 1891. 3 - Emily S 1873 - 1965. Married Albert A HILL 1895. 4 - John Carlisle 1875 - 1913. Married Ada SPRING 1896. They had a son John C. who was a music student when he joined the AIF in 1916. I believe he became an engineer after that. 5 - Edith Martha 1878 - 1878 6 - Robert S 1879 - 1969. Married Millicent E JARVIS 1900. 7 - Eleanor L (Ellen) 1882 - 1960. Married Thomas D A EATHER aka Darcy EATHER 1913 8 - Ethel M 1884 - 1971. Married Sydney Edgar GATLAND 1908 9 - Elsie M 1887 - 1978. Married Victor Emanuel J MORTON 1907 10 - Frederick Edgar 1889 - unknown. Married Sarah Vida BOWMAN 1913. The GATLAND family appear from Electoral Directories to have separated but not sure. Frederick Edgar HUMPHREY and Sarah nee BOWMAN, appear to have disappeared after their marriage. Only Sarah appears in the 1930 Electoral Roll. Nothing before or after that date. Can't find a death for him but she died 1955. I have searched in the following websites - NAA, War Memorial, State Records, ancestry for which I have a Worldwide sub, Newspapers on line and have had a lot of luck with that, Googled, IGI, BDM's, The Ryerson Index and just anything I can think of. Maybe some of you are a part of this family, if so I would like to exchange information. Sorry to be so long winded, but they did have big families back then. Cheers Annette in Cowra NSW where the drought parched land received 4inches of rain over the weekend.

1870 and 1877 death certificates should show "How long in the colony" which should give an indication of when they came here. Have you got them? Can you pinpoint them to an earlier date in Australia than the 1868 marriage of Robert and Eliza? Cheers