has anyone come across a Colonel Keck and Turnkey Elias Hibbs at Darlinghurst Gaol in the 19th Century ? regards Kerrie Anne Christian

Dear Listers, Would be very inteested to hear from descendants of the above gentleman please. He died at St. Leonards, NSW 15 December 1886. Many thanks Ann Daniel

Hi Ian I have not found too much on Thomas Carigie Thomas farther was Thomas Craigie B 1778 in Scotland and died at sea 2 Nov 1858 of Cape Funison on board “Henry” a Master Sailor got his certificate 1851. married Ann Butler His father was Balfour Craigie B 1773 he was a Private in the Oekney, Shetland Fencibles when he married Marjory Patterson And then his father is Magnus Craigie who was married to Barbara Winwick in 1758 at Kirkwall, Orkney, Scotland This below is Ancestry <http://trees.ancestry.com.au/tree/54953144/person/13938466276/fact/95746985077> Certificate of Competency as "Only Mate" Name: Thomas Craigie Estimated Age: 25 Birth Date: 1830 Birth Place: Sunderland, Durham Issue Date: 6 Jun 1855 Issue Port: Sunderland Certificate Number: 12501 Ann Frederick father John was also a seaman he got his Master and Mates Certificate on 20 Dec 1850 in Port of Sunderland Certificate No 39.125 Below Possible records to look at that might fit your Thomas Craigie one of the family trees has him as Thomas Craig. Police Gazettes 1854-1930 Seamen Deserters from the ship “Hastings” 1857. Thomas Craig O.S. 5ft 6in, Fair complexion, light hair, 30 years of age. Ancestry Death Thomas Craigie 1874 in Sydney Reg: No 1843 Vol MO NSW BDM 1874 Thomas Craigie age 56 dies at sea Hope this helps you Josephine Bris Qld I have found a record on Ancestry.com of an entry in the 1863 Darlinghurst NSW Gaol “Description and Entrance Books” for a Thomas CRAIGIE (NSW Archives record). Apparently he was admitted to the gaol on 24 Dec 1863 and released on 31 Dec. He was committed by one John Williams and sentenced to 8 days labour for “Disobedience of Orders”. I am trying to find out where Craigie was committed in the hope that it would be Wentworth where a relative of such name was living in 1862. In the gaol book it gives an indecipherable abbreviation of the committal place. Does anyone know of any more records online that would shed any more light on this? Thank you Ian Kelly Queensland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Hi Elaine Thanks for your email and what you have found out. I was hoping that he would be “my” Thomas Craigie but does not look like it going by the the info you found on him re the ship “John Vanner”. I found where Thomas Craigie is listed in “Mariners and Ships in Australian Waters” with the rest of the crew when the John Vanner arrived in Sydney in 1863. He is an “IS” in the listing of the crew. I can’t seem to find out just what that means. It says the ship arrived on 1 December 1863 but another source says it arrived on 23/11/63. Trove says 23rd also but he is not mentioned in Trove. So his offence of “Disobedience of Orders” may have occurred on the ship. The John Vanner was wrecked at Calcutta on 30/1/1865. I was disappointed that he was not my guy as the year 1863 would have tied in with when my Thomas Craigie “disappeared” from Wentworth in NSW and, as far as I can tell, never to be heard of again. My Thomas would have been aged 33 years at this time. Just had a thought: There seems to be two different ages for the Thomas Craigies you found on Ancestry. You found one where you said he was 24. The one I found him was called “NSW Gaol Description and Entrance Book” and it had 24 a couple of columns after his name. I think that is the date in December. Note the rest of the numbers in that column and the month of December in the next column. I don’t think that record really gives his age. The other record you sent that mentions the ship John Vanner has his age as 19. Do you think that guy is the same bloke as in the aforementioned Gaol Description and Entrance Book? Perhaps I should tell you about my Thomas Craigie in case someone on the list has some suggestions where I can go next. Thomas Craigie was born in Sunderland, Durham (near Newcastle), England on 23/8/1830 and married widow Ann Frederick at Durham in 1854. She had previously been married to a George Elliot and they had a son, John George Elliot, in 1851. However George Elliot died and Ann then married Thomas Craigie. Thomas and Anne and the 3 year old John George Elliot arrived in Melbourne on the immigrant ship “Parsee” in 1855. He gave his occupation as “shipwright”. In the Geelong paper in 1856 Ann Craigie was advertising if anyone knew the whereabouts of her husband, Thomas Craigie. So it looks like he deserted his family. Ann gave birth to Craigie’s child, Ann Marie Craigie, in Collingwood in 1856. She drowned in the Yarra River in Melbourne in 1873 aged 17. Ann Craigie (nee Frederick) then married George Catterson Smith in 1858 and they had two children. They lived in Geelong. Ann died in 1865. I don’t really want to go further down this track. Ann’s marriage to George C Smith would, I presume, be a bigamous one but she may have thought Thomas Craigie was dead. The next thing I have found a Thomas Craigie marrying an Annie Lawrie in Wentworth at the junction of the Murray and Darling Rivers in NSW in 1862. He gave his age as 29 and his occupation as “shipwright”. I think there is a good possibility he is the same guy who was married to Ann Frederick. If so then this marriage would be a bigamous marriage. They had a child in Wentworth in 1863 and named him Thomas Craigie, the same as his father. And then Thomas Craigie Snr. seems to have disappeared never to be heard of again. Then the “deserted” Annie takes up with a George Kelly (can’t locate a marriage certificate) and they came to Qld in the late 1860s. They seem to have changed young Thomas Craigie’s surname to Kelly and he eventually became my grandfather. Perhaps it was found out that Thomas Craigie Snr. was a bigamist and sent to gaol. Would anyone know where I can find records of the Wentworth Gaol in the 1860s? I have no idea what became of the child John George Elliot who was aged 3 when the family arrived on the “Parsee” in 1855. Did his surname become Craigie at some stage? Did it become Smith when his mother married George C Smith in 1858? I have been trying to unravel this Craigie puzzle for years. As I am now writing a Kelly family history book, it would be good if I could find out what happened to Thomas Craigie Snr before the book is finished. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you Ian Kelly Sandstone Point Queensland On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:49 AM, Elaine Hanford <ejhanford@att.net> wrote: In looking at the Gaol Book, it appears that he was committed at W.P.O. (others listed as committed at C.P.O). His age is given as 24. I tried various searches through Trove, but without success. Since he was committed for "disobedience of orders" I would think it highly unlikely that this would have been reported in the newspapers.

Ian,I have reviewed the John Vanner listings for 1863 and following years.  The "IS" is a transcription error which is evident by viewing the SCAN image of the original document at “Mariners and Ships in Australian Waters”.   "OS" represents "Ordinary Seaman" which is an apprentice position that provides training toward becoming an "Able Seaman" -- OS is an unlicensed position with job descriptions listed at:http://www.seamanjobsite.com/profile_item-6/Ordinary-Seaman.html  https://sealiftcommand.com/payscales/ordinary-seaman/    Hope this helps...and good luck with sorting out these folks!cheers,ElaineTAS Descendant in Reno, Nevada On Friday, May 8, 2015 2:31 AM, Ian & Margaret <imkelly21@bigpond.com> wrote: Hi ElaineThanks for your email and what you have found out.  I was hoping that he would be “my” Thomas Craigie but does not look like it going by the the info you found on him re the ship “John Vanner”. I found where Thomas Craigie is listed in “Mariners and Ships in Australian Waters” with the rest of the crew when the John Vanner arrived in Sydney in 1863.  He is an “IS” in the listing of the crew.  I can’t seem to find out just what that means.  It says the ship arrived on 1 December 1863 but another source says it arrived on 23/11/63.  Trove says 23rd also but he is not mentioned in Trove.  So his offence of “Disobedience of Orders” may have occurred on the ship.  The John Vanner was wrecked at Calcutta on 30/1/1865. I was disappointed that he was not my guy as the year 1863 would have tied in with when my Thomas Craigie “disappeared” from Wentworth in NSW and, as far as I can tell, never to be heard of again.  My Thomas would have been aged 33 years at this time. Just had a thought:  There seems to be two different ages for the Thomas Craigies you found on Ancestry.  You found one where you said he was 24.  The one I found him was called “NSW Gaol Description and Entrance Book” and it had 24 a couple of columns after his name.  I think that is the date in December.  Note the rest of the numbers in that column and the month of December in the next column.  I don’t think that record really gives his age. The other record you sent that mentions the ship John Vanner has his age as 19.  Do you think that guy is the same bloke as in the aforementioned Gaol Description and Entrance Book? Perhaps I should tell you about my Thomas Craigie in case someone on the list has some suggestions where I can go next.   Thomas Craigie was born in Sunderland, Durham (near Newcastle), England on 23/8/1830 and married widow Ann Frederick at Durham in 1854.  She had previously been married to a George Elliot and they had a son, John George Elliot, in 1851.  However George Elliot died and Ann then married Thomas Craigie. Thomas and Anne and the 3 year old John George Elliot arrived in Melbourne on the immigrant ship “Parsee” in 1855.  He gave his occupation as “shipwright”.  In the Geelong paper in 1856 Ann Craigie was advertising if anyone knew the whereabouts of her husband, Thomas Craigie.  So it looks like he deserted his family. Ann gave birth to Craigie’s child, Ann Marie Craigie, in Collingwood in 1856.  She drowned in the Yarra River in Melbourne in 1873 aged 17. Ann Craigie (nee Frederick) then married George Catterson Smith in 1858 and they had two children.  They lived in Geelong.  Ann died in 1865.  I don’t really want to go further down this track.  Ann’s marriage to George C Smith would, I presume, be a bigamous one but she may have thought Thomas Craigie was dead. The next thing I have found a Thomas Craigie marrying an Annie Lawrie in Wentworth at the junction of the Murray and Darling Rivers in NSW in 1862.  He gave his age as 29 and his occupation as “shipwright”.  I think there is a good possibility he is the same guy who was married to Ann Frederick.  If so then this marriage would be a bigamous marriage. They had a child in Wentworth in 1863 and named him Thomas Craigie, the same as his father.  And then Thomas Craigie Snr. seems to have disappeared never to be heard of again.  Then the “deserted” Annie takes up with a George Kelly (can’t locate a marriage certificate) and they came to Qld in the late 1860s.  They seem to have changed young Thomas Craigie’s surname to Kelly and he eventually became my grandfather. Perhaps it was found out that Thomas Craigie Snr. was a bigamist and sent to gaol.  Would anyone know where I can find records of the Wentworth Gaol in the 1860s? I have no idea what became of the child John George Elliot who was aged 3 when the family arrived on the “Parsee” in 1855.  Did his surname become Craigie at some stage?  Did it become Smith when his mother married George C Smith in 1858? I have been trying to unravel this Craigie puzzle for years.  As I am now writing a Kelly family history book, it would be good if I could find out what happened to Thomas Craigie Snr before the book is finished.   Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank youIan KellySandstone Point  Queensland On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:49 AM, Elaine Hanford <ejhanford@att.net> wrote: In looking at the Gaol Book, it appears that he was committed at W.P.O.  (others listed as committed at C.P.O).  His age is given as 24. I tried various searches through Trove, but without success.  Since he was committed for "disobedience of orders" I would think it highly unlikely that this would have been reported in the newspapers.      

Oops, did it again....really do need to finish my morning coffee!Here is the other listing from Ancestry....which also gives his occupation as seamancheers,elaine | Thos Craigie | | Birth Year: | abt 1844 | | Birth Place: | Scotland | | Age: | 19 | | Arrival Year: | 1863 | | Arrival Country: | Australia | | Vessel Arrived In: | John Vanner | | Date of Admission/Photo: | Dec 1863 | On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 8:23 AM, Elaine Hanford <ejhanford@att.net> wrote: Ian,my apologies....hit the send button too soon. In looking at the Gaol Book, it appears that he was committed at W.P.O.  (others listed as committed at C.P.O).  His age is given as 24. I tried various searches through Trove, but without success.  Since he was committed for "disobedience of orders" I would think it highly unlikely that this would have been reported in the newspapers.   There is also another Gaol Book listing at Ancestry which says: On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:49 AM, Elaine Hanford <ejhanford@att.net> wrote: Ian,In looking at the Gaol Book, it appears that he was committed at W.P.O On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 6:47 PM, Ian & Margaret via <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> wrote: I have found a record on Ancestry.com of an entry in the 1863 Darlinghurst NSW Gaol “Description and Entrance Books” for a Thomas CRAIGIE (NSW Archives record). Apparently he was admitted to the gaol on 24 Dec 1863 and released on 31 Dec.  He was committed by one John Williams and sentenced to 8 days labour for “Disobedience of Orders”. I am trying to find out where Craigie was committed in the hope that it would be Wentworth where a relative of such name was living in 1862.  In the gaol book it gives an indecipherable abbreviation of the committal place. Does anyone know of any more records online that would shed any more light on this? Thank you Ian Kelly Queensland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ian,my apologies....hit the send button too soon. In looking at the Gaol Book, it appears that he was committed at W.P.O.  (others listed as committed at C.P.O).  His age is given as 24. I tried various searches through Trove, but without success.  Since he was committed for "disobedience of orders" I would think it highly unlikely that this would have been reported in the newspapers.   There is also another Gaol Book listing at Ancestry which says: On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:49 AM, Elaine Hanford <ejhanford@att.net> wrote: Ian,In looking at the Gaol Book, it appears that he was committed at W.P.O On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 6:47 PM, Ian & Margaret via <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> wrote: I have found a record on Ancestry.com of an entry in the 1863 Darlinghurst NSW Gaol “Description and Entrance Books” for a Thomas CRAIGIE (NSW Archives record). Apparently he was admitted to the gaol on 24 Dec 1863 and released on 31 Dec.  He was committed by one John Williams and sentenced to 8 days labour for “Disobedience of Orders”. I am trying to find out where Craigie was committed in the hope that it would be Wentworth where a relative of such name was living in 1862.  In the gaol book it gives an indecipherable abbreviation of the committal place. Does anyone know of any more records online that would shed any more light on this? Thank you Ian Kelly Queensland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ian,In looking at the Gaol Book, it appears that he was committed at W.P.O On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 6:47 PM, Ian & Margaret via <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> wrote: I have found a record on Ancestry.com of an entry in the 1863 Darlinghurst NSW Gaol “Description and Entrance Books” for a Thomas CRAIGIE (NSW Archives record). Apparently he was admitted to the gaol on 24 Dec 1863 and released on 31 Dec.  He was committed by one John Williams and sentenced to 8 days labour for “Disobedience of Orders”. I am trying to find out where Craigie was committed in the hope that it would be Wentworth where a relative of such name was living in 1862.  In the gaol book it gives an indecipherable abbreviation of the committal place. Does anyone know of any more records online that would shed any more light on this? Thank you Ian Kelly Queensland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joan Thanks for that suggestion and have tried it without success. Perhaps someone smarter than I could have a look at Trove but I have searched using the name Thomas Craigie and also John Williams and Darlinghurst. Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Joan Birtles Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 12:31 PM To: 'Ian & Margaret' ; aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [AUS-NSW] Darlinghurst Gaol Hello Ian, I found a lot of information re my fellow who went to Darlinghurst gaol, on the TROVE newspaper site. It gave all particulars of the trial. Cheers Joan

Perhaps you could make an inquiry to NSW State Records for a list of what the abbreviations stand for in the Place of Committal column? Cheers Jan -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian & Margaret via Sent: Wednesday, 6 May 2015 11:46 AM To: AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-NSW] Darlinghurst Gaol I have found a record on Ancestry.com of an entry in the 1863 Darlinghurst NSW Gaol “Description and Entrance Books” for a Thomas CRAIGIE (NSW Archives record). Apparently he was admitted to the gaol on 24 Dec 1863 and released on 31 Dec. He was committed by one John Williams and sentenced to 8 days labour for “Disobedience of Orders”. I am trying to find out where Craigie was committed in the hope that it would be Wentworth where a relative of such name was living in 1862. In the gaol book it gives an indecipherable abbreviation of the committal place. Does anyone know of any more records online that would shed any more light on this? Thank you Ian Kelly Queensland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ian, I found a lot of information re my fellow who went to Darlinghurst gaol, on the TROVE newspaper site. It gave all particulars of the trial. Cheers Joan -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com I have found a record on Ancestry.com of an entry in the 1863 Darlinghurst NSW Gaol Description and Entrance Books for a Thomas CRAIGIE (NSW Archives record). Apparently he was admitted to the gaol on 24 Dec 1863 and released on 31 Dec. He was committed by one John Williams and sentenced to 8 days labour for Disobedience of Orders. I am trying to find out where Craigie was committed in the hope that it would be Wentworth where a relative of such name was living in 1862. In the gaol book it gives an indecipherable abbreviation of the committal place. Does anyone know of any more records online that would shed any more light on this? Thank you Ian Kelly Queensland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

I have found a record on Ancestry.com of an entry in the 1863 Darlinghurst NSW Gaol “Description and Entrance Books” for a Thomas CRAIGIE (NSW Archives record). Apparently he was admitted to the gaol on 24 Dec 1863 and released on 31 Dec. He was committed by one John Williams and sentenced to 8 days labour for “Disobedience of Orders”. I am trying to find out where Craigie was committed in the hope that it would be Wentworth where a relative of such name was living in 1862. In the gaol book it gives an indecipherable abbreviation of the committal place. Does anyone know of any more records online that would shed any more light on this? Thank you Ian Kelly Queensland

Hi Suzanne, NSW BMD Index - Death - Florence Amelia BEATTY died 1962 - daughter of George and Annie Elizabeth, registered Tamworth, 2637/1962 The NSW State Archives have a possible divorce for her (assuming its the same lady) - William Henry AUSTIN and Florence Amelia AUSTIN - (NSW BMDs) Florence A. MORRISON married William H. AUSTIN, Burwood, 12714/1921. There are two possible children in the death indexes - Kenneth AUSTIN, registered Ashfield, died 1924; and Betsy AUSTIN, registered Newcastle, died 1941 Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Looking for birth information on Florence Amelia Beatty who died 2/1/1962 > NSW and was cremated at Woronora - she was married to Stephen Charles > Beatty. > Suzanne

Hi Looking for birth information on Florence Amelia Beatty who died 2/1/1962 NSW and was cremated at Woronora - she was married to Stephen Charles Beatty. NSW Indexes show they were married 1937 Sydney her maiden name was Austin. I have read her Death Notice in SMH, which names children - one of those children Muriel is a Birth registration NSW 6900/1912 parents Stephen C & Florence Beatty. I can't find another marriage for Stephen. Any information on Florence's parents or place of birth would be appreciated. Thankyou Suzanne

also one in NSW post code 2736 Tooleybuc is a town in the western Riverina district of New South Wales, Australia. The town is located on the Mallee Highway, 919 kilometres south west of the state capital, Sydney and 381 kilometres north west of Melbourne.

Toolebuc is in Queenslanda Eliza Hobson father George Peeps mother Eliza Hobson may be the person you are looking for death in 1872 Qld regardsLorette From: Val Date via <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2015, 15:57 Subject: [AUS-NSW] INQUEST AT TOOLEYBUC Will SKS please advise me regarding obtaining access to an inquest that took place at Tooleybuc in 1872.  The person was Eleann HOBSON and all I can seem to discover is that she died of natural causes. Is there anyway I can indentify her please?  Regards, Val DATE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Date via" <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 3:57 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] INQUEST AT TOOLEYBUC > Will SKS please advise me regarding obtaining access to an > inquest that took > place at Tooleybuc in 1872. The person was Eleann HOBSON and > all I can > seem to discover is that she died of natural causes. > > Is there anyway I can indentify her please? Hi Val , Hard to say. Her death not registered in either NSW or VIC . Thats about the third incident of this sort I've come across in recent times . As a general rule of thumb only the indexes have survived . The actual NSW inquest files before around 1910 ish havent If you do a search on NSW State Records site for inquests you'll get the exact info Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4334/9642 - Release Date: 04/27/15

Will SKS please advise me regarding obtaining access to an inquest that took place at Tooleybuc in 1872. The person was Eleann HOBSON and all I can seem to discover is that she died of natural causes. Is there anyway I can indentify her please? Regards, Val DATE

HI Trish Yes you may be correct in saying that the girls Mary and Lillian may not be MaCools at all. Their mum Elizabeth Matilda SHARP seems to have been married about 4 times once to an IZZARD then to Mr CharlesMc Cole etc then to a Mr. Wright and then to a Mr. Newling. Hmm very busy lady. I need to have a look at Trove again as I was reading an article yesterday re a Mrs. Izzard who said she was separated from her husband and living with a Mr Cole/Cool it was something to do with a break and enter and one of the guys names was JOHN SHARP. So it looks like the only child is this Thomas. Re the newspaper article Elizabeth mentions two children with her. Elizabeth Newlings death certificate will be interesting though. Many thanks Dianna -----Original Message----- From: symonds3 via Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 7:36 AM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Charles McCOOL/MaCOLE and Elizabeth Matilda SHARP Hi Dianna, The only other name I came across was the birth of a son - Thomas J.N. McCOLE, parents Charles and Elizabeth M., at Goulburn in 1896 (3420/1896) Deaths - Thomas J.N. McCOOL, parents Charles and Elizabeth M, at Goulburn in 1896 (9850/1896) At the Australian Archives, there are papers for William McCOOL, born Goulburn, aged 22 in 1916 (so born around 1894), married to Lily living at Moore Park in Sydney. I don't know if he fits into your picture. If Charles died in July 1897 and he and Elizabeth married in 1896 there wouldn't have been much time for other children to be born. Its possible the two girls may have had another father which is why you can't locate their births. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW Subject: [AUS-NSW] Charles McCOOL/MaCOLE and Elizabeth Matilda SHARP I’m trying to find the children born to the above couple. We have a Mary McCool who changed her name to Florence had one son Leslie Charles MacCool in 1911 in Temora. Florence had a sister by the name of Lilllian Beatrice McCool born c 1892 around Goulburn who married Albert James Starr’s brother William Joseph STARR. Dianna ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dianna, The only other name I came across was the birth of a son - Thomas J.N. McCOLE, parents Charles and Elizabeth M., at Goulburn in 1896 (3420/1896) Deaths - Thomas J.N. McCOOL, parents Charles and Elizabeth M, at Goulburn in 1896 (9850/1896) At the Australian Archives, there are papers for William McCOOL, born Goulburn, aged 22 in 1916 (so born around 1894), married to Lily living at Moore Park in Sydney. I don't know if he fits into your picture. If Charles died in July 1897 and he and Elizabeth married in 1896 there wouldn't have been much time for other children to be born. Its possible the two girls may have had another father which is why you can't locate their births. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW Subject: [AUS-NSW] Charles McCOOL/MaCOLE and Elizabeth Matilda SHARP I’m trying to find the children born to the above couple. We have a Mary McCool who changed her name to Florence had one son Leslie Charles MacCool in 1911 in Temora. Florence had a sister by the name of Lilllian Beatrice McCool born c 1892 around Goulburn who married Albert James Starr’s brother William Joseph STARR. Dianna