Jenelle, Thank you that's ok. I appreciate the thought. Yes I have had a look around at mariners and passenger lists. Regards, Ray Jenelle McCarrick wrote: > Ray, > have you tried just googling the ship or Mariners and ships in australian > waters. I just don't get the time to go on a Sunday to our historical > society, I work some sundays. > Jenelle. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Hart" <rmbhart@alphalink.com.au> > To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:31 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Solomon, Schneiders., > > > Dear Jenelle, > Thank for that, my problem being an illness that stops from leaving home > under my own steam. > I'll make a note of the information you have given. > Very best wishes, Ray [Melb] > > Jenelle McCarrick wrote: > >> Ray, >> if you had googled unassisted immigration, Victoria, I have found a Joseph >> SOLOMON arriving age 22, 1884 on the Port Jackson, the fiche number is >> given, perhaps there is a local historical or genealogy society near you >> where you could look up the fiche number. >> Jenelle. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ray Hart" <rmbhart@alphalink.com.au> >> To: "Australian NSW Rootsweb." <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:23 PM >> Subject: [AUS-NSW] Solomon, Schneiders., >> >> >> Dear Listers, >> >> The following was an immigrants to Australia, Joseph Solomon to >> Australia some time between 1881 February 1886 (Date of his marriage). >> According to his death certificate (1897), he had been ’14 years in >> Victoria’, which puts the date at 1882/3. I don’t know his immigration >> information. >> >> Louis Hart and Julia Solomon married in Sydney in 1887, so they, too, >> must emigrated between 1881 (census) and this time. >> >> Flora and Gershon Schneiders married in Carlton on 13^th January 1875. >> Both appear on the UK 1861 census, but not, to my knowledge, on the 1871 >> return. >> >> Another Solomon whom I believe came to Australia was Alice, who was in >> London in 1911, married to an Aaron (also known as Alfred and Johnnie) >> Joseph. There is an Alice Joseph and some of her children. >> >> >> I would truly appreciate and help with this. In helping myself you will >> also be helping a overseas contact of mine. >> I think if we can find address books, census, and passenger lists then >> we might have achieved a good deal. If you can think of other searches >> then forgive my not bringing it up, but please go ahead. >> >> Very best wishes to you and yours, Ray [Melbourne] >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2336 - Release Date: 08/30/09 >> 17:51:00 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2336 - Release Date: 08/30/09 >> 17:51:00 >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.73/2338 - Release Date: 08/31/09 > 17:52:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.73/2338 - Release Date: 08/31/09 17:52:00 > >

Ray, have you tried just googling the ship or Mariners and ships in australian waters. I just don't get the time to go on a Sunday to our historical society, I work some sundays. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hart" <rmbhart@alphalink.com.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Solomon, Schneiders., Dear Jenelle, Thank for that, my problem being an illness that stops from leaving home under my own steam. I'll make a note of the information you have given. Very best wishes, Ray [Melb] Jenelle McCarrick wrote: > Ray, > if you had googled unassisted immigration, Victoria, I have found a Joseph > SOLOMON arriving age 22, 1884 on the Port Jackson, the fiche number is > given, perhaps there is a local historical or genealogy society near you > where you could look up the fiche number. > Jenelle. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Hart" <rmbhart@alphalink.com.au> > To: "Australian NSW Rootsweb." <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:23 PM > Subject: [AUS-NSW] Solomon, Schneiders., > > > Dear Listers, > > The following was an immigrants to Australia, Joseph Solomon to > Australia some time between 1881 February 1886 (Date of his marriage). > According to his death certificate (1897), he had been ’14 years in > Victoria’, which puts the date at 1882/3. I don’t know his immigration > information. > > Louis Hart and Julia Solomon married in Sydney in 1887, so they, too, > must emigrated between 1881 (census) and this time. > > Flora and Gershon Schneiders married in Carlton on 13^th January 1875. > Both appear on the UK 1861 census, but not, to my knowledge, on the 1871 > return. > > Another Solomon whom I believe came to Australia was Alice, who was in > London in 1911, married to an Aaron (also known as Alfred and Johnnie) > Joseph. There is an Alice Joseph and some of her children. > > > I would truly appreciate and help with this. In helping myself you will > also be helping a overseas contact of mine. > I think if we can find address books, census, and passenger lists then > we might have achieved a good deal. If you can think of other searches > then forgive my not bringing it up, but please go ahead. > > Very best wishes to you and yours, Ray [Melbourne] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2336 - Release Date: 08/30/09 > 17:51:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2336 - Release Date: 08/30/09 > 17:51:00 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.73/2338 - Release Date: 08/31/09 17:52:00

Hi Christene, I really have no idea if these people are related to the Richard Musgrove I am looking for. All I know about him is what my friend told me.ie that Richard came to NSW in 1862. Thank you for the information which I will certainly tell her about. How can I get in touch with Mr Frank Osborne if I need to. Regards Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christene" <hartleyc@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:02 AM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Musrave/Musgrove > Does the research into the above names include interst in either of these > marriages > 2153/1856 OSBORNE GEORGE MUSGRAVE ANNIE WOLLONGONG > 3543/1865 OSBORNE WILLIAM MUSGRAVE ELIZA WOLLONGONG > > if so Mr Frank Osborne a direct descendent of John Robert and Alik who > were > ships > Nalavl surgeons onboard many migrant ships and who were given huge parcles > of land etc > is in his 80s but very alert and more than happy to share any > knowledge..he > speaks > often at historical functions > Chriistene > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ray, You can order records from PRO-Vic if you can't do the research for yourself - http://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/PROVguides/PROVguide021/PROVguide021.jsp or post a message on the Victorian list asking if someone can look the records up on your behalf when next they are visiting the Archives. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW Dear Jenelle, Thank for that, my problem being an illness that stops from leaving home under my own steam. I'll make a note of the information you have given. Very best wishes, Ray [Melb]

Dear Jenelle, Thank for that, my problem being an illness that stops from leaving home under my own steam. I'll make a note of the information you have given. Very best wishes, Ray [Melb] Jenelle McCarrick wrote: > Ray, > if you had googled unassisted immigration, Victoria, I have found a Joseph > SOLOMON arriving age 22, 1884 on the Port Jackson, the fiche number is > given, perhaps there is a local historical or genealogy society near you > where you could look up the fiche number. > Jenelle. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Hart" <rmbhart@alphalink.com.au> > To: "Australian NSW Rootsweb." <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:23 PM > Subject: [AUS-NSW] Solomon, Schneiders., > > > Dear Listers, > > The following was an immigrants to Australia, Joseph Solomon to > Australia some time between 1881 February 1886 (Date of his marriage). > According to his death certificate (1897), he had been ’14 years in > Victoria’, which puts the date at 1882/3. I don’t know his immigration > information. > > Louis Hart and Julia Solomon married in Sydney in 1887, so they, too, > must emigrated between 1881 (census) and this time. > > Flora and Gershon Schneiders married in Carlton on 13^th January 1875. > Both appear on the UK 1861 census, but not, to my knowledge, on the 1871 > return. > > Another Solomon whom I believe came to Australia was Alice, who was in > London in 1911, married to an Aaron (also known as Alfred and Johnnie) > Joseph. There is an Alice Joseph and some of her children. > > > I would truly appreciate and help with this. In helping myself you will > also be helping a overseas contact of mine. > I think if we can find address books, census, and passenger lists then > we might have achieved a good deal. If you can think of other searches > then forgive my not bringing it up, but please go ahead. > > Very best wishes to you and yours, Ray [Melbourne] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2336 - Release Date: 08/30/09 > 17:51:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2336 - Release Date: 08/30/09 17:51:00 > >

This was a well known name in WA. A large music store in Perth, probably 30s, 40s, 50s. still listed at 900 Hay Street in current phone book. Robin in West Oz

Does the research into the above names include interst in either of these marriages 2153/1856 OSBORNE GEORGE MUSGRAVE ANNIE WOLLONGONG 3543/1865 OSBORNE WILLIAM MUSGRAVE ELIZA WOLLONGONG if so Mr Frank Osborne a direct descendent of John Robert and Alik who were ships Nalavl surgeons onboard many migrant ships and who were given huge parcles of land etc is in his 80s but very alert and more than happy to share any knowledge..he speaks often at historical functions Chriistene

Hi Liz, In the NSW 1867 Post Office Directory, in Young, page 504, there is a listing for - "MUSGROVE, Richard, sen., sergeant of police" No idea if this refers to the senior Richard on board "Annie Wilson" or another family. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Richard Musgrove arrived 8 April 1862 on the ship "Annie Wilson" Estimated > age born 1819. Place of Origin Mitsorth, Down. > Richard 43 years > Margaret 43 year's wife > Benjamin 19 years > Joseph 17 years > Michael 14 yeas > Pheobe ? 12 years

Hi Liz I have search ancestry for you and found the following not sure if it your family. There are two other families of Musgrove on the ship "Annie Wilson" beside Richard. Richard Musgrove arrived 8 April 1862 on the ship "Annie Wilson" Estimated age born 1819. Place of Origin Mitsorth, Down. Richard 43 years Margaret 43 year's wife Benjamin 19 years Joseph 17 years Michael 14 yeas Pheobe ? 12 years Also 1841 and 1861 England Census showing a family off Richard & Margaret living in Durham England and there are some family Trees for Richard above and his family. Hope this helps Josephine Qld -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john maxwell Sent: Monday, 31 August 2009 8:10 PM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove Thanks Jenelle, You have givem me some ideas as to where to start looking Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2005@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove > Liz, > as a rule census were not kept in Australia, just the odd ones survive, > the > first complete census kept 2006. > Have you looked at www.familysearch.org, www.rootsweb.com click world > connect page, www.ancestry.com.au is a paid site, perhaps your local > library > or historical society has a subscription, > the National library of Australia has been digitising the newspapers, have > you been through that site. Check out www.ozgenon-line cemeteries, > www.coraweb.com.au > www.records.nsw.gov.au for New South Wales records. > Jenelle. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john maxwell" <lizmax@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:28 PM > Subject: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove > > >> Dear list, >> >> I am trying to help a friend in America trace her family and was hoping >> that some one on this list was able to help me. >> >> This is all the information that I have >> >> Richard MUSGRAVE/MUSGROVE emigrated with his family to Australia in 1862 >> on "Annie Wilson" The family was sponsored by the Australian Agricultural >> Society to work in the coal mines around Newcastle. >> >> Can anyone point me in a direction of where to go from here.Are census >> records or shipping records available or something similar.to show who >> was >> with Richard when he arrived here? Is there any records of the AAS. >> >> Thank you for reading this >> >> Liz Maxwell Melbourne >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2336 - Release Date: 08/30/09 > 17:51:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "john maxwell" <lizmax@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove - Info on , > Thank you for your help. Is it possible to search the NSW > State records on > line? Indexes to mostly http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online NSW State Records film # 2139 should give you a lot of info State Records do have a copying service for these films ............. but its not cheap............. Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW

Hi Liz, This link to Hunter Valley Genealogy may be useful, there is info on the collieries as well as someone searching for the MUSGROVE name under Hunter Valley Pioneer Families; the Forum might be a good group to join if you want local lookups etc - http://www.huntervalleygenealogy.com/ Trish Nowra NSW > Hi Trish, > Thank you for the death records. > The 1882 record seems to be a possibility. From what little I have been > told > he came here with his family but unfortunately I don't know any names. > > Regards > Liz

Hi Trish, Thank you for the death records. The 1882 record seems to be a possibility. From what little I have been told he came here with his family but unfortunately I don't know any names. Regards Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trev Symonds" <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove > Hello Liz, > I didn't find a marriage for Richard MUSGROVE in the NSW BDMs. There are > two possible deaths recorded - > 1882 Richard MUSGROVE, son of Benjamin and Mary, at Newcastle > 1937 Richard MUSGROVE, son of Joseph and Elizabeth, at West Maitland > There are a number of births with parents Richard Hainsworth and Helen R > MUSGROVE at Young, which doesn't seem to be your Richard. > Cheers > Trish > Nowra NSW > >> Richard MUSGRAVE/MUSGROVE emigrated with his family to Australia in 1862 >> on "Annie Wilson" The family was sponsored by the Australian Agricultural >> Society to work in the coal mines around Newcastle. >> Can anyone point me in a direction of where to go from here.Are census >> records or shipping records available or something similar.to show who >> was >> with Richard when he arrived here? Is there any records of the AAS. >> Liz Maxwell Melbourne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marg, Thank you for your help. Is it possible to search the NSW State records on line? Regards Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove - Info on > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john maxwell" <lizmax@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:28 PM > Subject: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove > > > Hi Liz > >> I am trying to help a friend in America trace her family >> and was hoping that some one on this list was able to help >> me. >> >> This is all the information that I have >> >> Richard MUSGRAVE/MUSGROVE emigrated with his family to >> Australia in 1862 on "Annie Wilson" > > > He is recorded as MUSGROVE in NSW State Records assisted > migrants indexes . Were over a dozen MUSGROVEs on this ship > ..... looks to be more than one family . You would need > to checked NSW State Records film number 2139 for more info > > >> The family was sponsored by the Australian Agricultural >> Society > > Pretty sure you mean to AA Co ? see > http://www.newcastle.edu.au/service/archives/archives/aac/index.html > > The AA Co is still in existance > > >> >> Can anyone point me in a direction of where to go from >> here.Are census records > > > The last question in our most recent census asked permission > to keep this record for 100 yrs. This was the first time > this had ever happened . So, no, there here no census > records > > >>or shipping records available or something similar.to show >>who was with Richard when he arrived here? > > see above S R film # 2139 > >>Is there any records of the AAS. > > > AA Co ..........certainly is . Most are kept at the Noel > Butlin Archive , ANU Canberra. > > There was a book published back in 1986 called 'Pure Merinos > & Others' by PA PEMBERTON which has alot of AA Co info , > including detail of names of passenger on ships sponsered by > the AA Co . Under MUSGROVE per Annie Wilson it lists William > Matthew Richard & Robert > > This film and probably this book should be at the SLV or > GSV or both > > There is a MUSGROVE ref in > http://www.huntervalleygenealogy.com/fam_ab.php ? > > The Maitland Mercury is on line for quite a few years in > http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home > > Never know what a search of that might find ! > > > HTH > > Bye > MargM > Beautiful NSW Central Coast > NSW > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Jenelle, You have givem me some ideas as to where to start looking Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2005@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove > Liz, > as a rule census were not kept in Australia, just the odd ones survive, > the > first complete census kept 2006. > Have you looked at www.familysearch.org, www.rootsweb.com click world > connect page, www.ancestry.com.au is a paid site, perhaps your local > library > or historical society has a subscription, > the National library of Australia has been digitising the newspapers, have > you been through that site. Check out www.ozgenon-line cemeteries, > www.coraweb.com.au > www.records.nsw.gov.au for New South Wales records. > Jenelle. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john maxwell" <lizmax@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:28 PM > Subject: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove > > >> Dear list, >> >> I am trying to help a friend in America trace her family and was hoping >> that some one on this list was able to help me. >> >> This is all the information that I have >> >> Richard MUSGRAVE/MUSGROVE emigrated with his family to Australia in 1862 >> on "Annie Wilson" The family was sponsored by the Australian Agricultural >> Society to work in the coal mines around Newcastle. >> >> Can anyone point me in a direction of where to go from here.Are census >> records or shipping records available or something similar.to show who >> was >> with Richard when he arrived here? Is there any records of the AAS. >> >> Thank you for reading this >> >> Liz Maxwell Melbourne >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2336 - Release Date: 08/30/09 > 17:51:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Liz, I didn't find a marriage for Richard MUSGROVE in the NSW BDMs. There are two possible deaths recorded - 1882 Richard MUSGROVE, son of Benjamin and Mary, at Newcastle 1937 Richard MUSGROVE, son of Joseph and Elizabeth, at West Maitland There are a number of births with parents Richard Hainsworth and Helen R MUSGROVE at Young, which doesn't seem to be your Richard. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Richard MUSGRAVE/MUSGROVE emigrated with his family to Australia in 1862 > on "Annie Wilson" The family was sponsored by the Australian Agricultural > Society to work in the coal mines around Newcastle. > Can anyone point me in a direction of where to go from here.Are census > records or shipping records available or something similar.to show who was > with Richard when he arrived here? Is there any records of the AAS. > Liz Maxwell Melbourne

Hi Ray, On the Vic Archives, Unassisted Passenger Index, there is a listing for a Joseph SOLOMON, aged 22, arrived September 1884 aboard "Port Jackson", from a British Port. No other Solomon family members on this vessel. There were a number of SCHNEIDER listings, but no Christian names to identify Flora/Gershon. On the NSW Archives website, Assisted Immigrants, Julia SOLOMON arrived in Sydney in 1865 aboard "Wallasea" aged 15 years (Reel 2140, 4/4789; Reel 2483 4/4990). No other Solomons aboard this vessel. No Hart on this vessel. Was unable to locate an arrival for Louis Hart (various spellings). A lot of SCHNEIDER names, but no Flora/Gershon. Nothing found for Alice SOLOMON. NSW BDMs has Julia and Louis HART as the parents of Annie S. HART, b.1888, Sydney; on the death indexes Lewis and Julia are the parents of Elizabeth HART, d.1903, Sydney. There are a number of death indexes for both Louis and Julia HART. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW The following was an immigrants to Australia, Joseph Solomon to Australia some time between 1881 February 1886 (Date of his marriage). According to his death certificate (1897), he had been ’14 years in Victoria’, which puts the date at 1882/3. I don’t know his immigration information.Louis Hart and Julia Solomon married in Sydney in 1887, so they, too, must emigrated between 1881 (census) and this time.Flora and Gershon Schneiders married in Carlton on 13^th January 1875. Both appear on the UK 1861 census, but not, to my knowledge, on the 1871 return.Another Solomon whom I believe came to Australia was Alice, who was in London in 1911, married to an Aaron (also known as Alfred and Johnnie) Joseph. There is an Alice Joseph and some of her children. Very best wishes to you and yours, Ray [Melbourne]

Ray, if you had googled unassisted immigration, Victoria, I have found a Joseph SOLOMON arriving age 22, 1884 on the Port Jackson, the fiche number is given, perhaps there is a local historical or genealogy society near you where you could look up the fiche number. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Hart" <rmbhart@alphalink.com.au> To: "Australian NSW Rootsweb." <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Solomon, Schneiders., Dear Listers, The following was an immigrants to Australia, Joseph Solomon to Australia some time between 1881 February 1886 (Date of his marriage). According to his death certificate (1897), he had been ’14 years in Victoria’, which puts the date at 1882/3. I don’t know his immigration information. Louis Hart and Julia Solomon married in Sydney in 1887, so they, too, must emigrated between 1881 (census) and this time. Flora and Gershon Schneiders married in Carlton on 13^th January 1875. Both appear on the UK 1861 census, but not, to my knowledge, on the 1871 return. Another Solomon whom I believe came to Australia was Alice, who was in London in 1911, married to an Aaron (also known as Alfred and Johnnie) Joseph. There is an Alice Joseph and some of her children. I would truly appreciate and help with this. In helping myself you will also be helping a overseas contact of mine. I think if we can find address books, census, and passenger lists then we might have achieved a good deal. If you can think of other searches then forgive my not bringing it up, but please go ahead. Very best wishes to you and yours, Ray [Melbourne] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2336 - Release Date: 08/30/09 17:51:00

Dear Listers, The following was an immigrants to Australia, Joseph Solomon to Australia some time between 1881 February 1886 (Date of his marriage). According to his death certificate (1897), he had been ’14 years in Victoria’, which puts the date at 1882/3. I don’t know his immigration information. Louis Hart and Julia Solomon married in Sydney in 1887, so they, too, must emigrated between 1881 (census) and this time. Flora and Gershon Schneiders married in Carlton on 13^th January 1875. Both appear on the UK 1861 census, but not, to my knowledge, on the 1871 return. Another Solomon whom I believe came to Australia was Alice, who was in London in 1911, married to an Aaron (also known as Alfred and Johnnie) Joseph. There is an Alice Joseph and some of her children. I would truly appreciate and help with this. In helping myself you will also be helping a overseas contact of mine. I think if we can find address books, census, and passenger lists then we might have achieved a good deal. If you can think of other searches then forgive my not bringing it up, but please go ahead. Very best wishes to you and yours, Ray [Melbourne]

----- Original Message ----- From: "john maxwell" <lizmax@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove Hi Liz > I am trying to help a friend in America trace her family > and was hoping that some one on this list was able to help > me. > > This is all the information that I have > > Richard MUSGRAVE/MUSGROVE emigrated with his family to > Australia in 1862 on "Annie Wilson" He is recorded as MUSGROVE in NSW State Records assisted migrants indexes . Were over a dozen MUSGROVEs on this ship ..... looks to be more than one family . You would need to checked NSW State Records film number 2139 for more info > The family was sponsored by the Australian Agricultural > Society Pretty sure you mean to AA Co ? see http://www.newcastle.edu.au/service/archives/archives/aac/index.html The AA Co is still in existance > > Can anyone point me in a direction of where to go from > here.Are census records The last question in our most recent census asked permission to keep this record for 100 yrs. This was the first time this had ever happened . So, no, there here no census records >or shipping records available or something similar.to show >who was with Richard when he arrived here? see above S R film # 2139 >Is there any records of the AAS. AA Co ..........certainly is . Most are kept at the Noel Butlin Archive , ANU Canberra. There was a book published back in 1986 called 'Pure Merinos & Others' by PA PEMBERTON which has alot of AA Co info , including detail of names of passenger on ships sponsered by the AA Co . Under MUSGROVE per Annie Wilson it lists William Matthew Richard & Robert This film and probably this book should be at the SLV or GSV or both There is a MUSGROVE ref in http://www.huntervalleygenealogy.com/fam_ab.php ? The Maitland Mercury is on line for quite a few years in http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home Never know what a search of that might find ! HTH Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW

Liz, as a rule census were not kept in Australia, just the odd ones survive, the first complete census kept 2006. Have you looked at www.familysearch.org, www.rootsweb.com click world connect page, www.ancestry.com.au is a paid site, perhaps your local library or historical society has a subscription, the National library of Australia has been digitising the newspapers, have you been through that site. Check out www.ozgenon-line cemeteries, www.coraweb.com.au www.records.nsw.gov.au for New South Wales records. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "john maxwell" <lizmax@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove > Dear list, > > I am trying to help a friend in America trace her family and was hoping > that some one on this list was able to help me. > > This is all the information that I have > > Richard MUSGRAVE/MUSGROVE emigrated with his family to Australia in 1862 > on "Annie Wilson" The family was sponsored by the Australian Agricultural > Society to work in the coal mines around Newcastle. > > Can anyone point me in a direction of where to go from here.Are census > records or shipping records available or something similar.to show who was > with Richard when he arrived here? Is there any records of the AAS. > > Thank you for reading this > > Liz Maxwell Melbourne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2336 - Release Date: 08/30/09 17:51:00